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TorgosPizza said:
Torgos, the only time i have seen a substantial difference in description of the MM was after the picture of the Rhino swimming in the water was released to the public. As i said previously the skeptics had a field day with this and it would not surprise me if the program showing the natives identifying the Rhino was made by de-bunkers. We must remember that these programs are not only made by people that want to prove the existence of these creatures, some are made purposely to de-bunk the claims and ridicule anyone that takes a serious interest in the subject.
As previously stated only 20% of the Congo has been explored by westerners, to have the cheek to claim that the human race has mapped every large creature in the Congo by only exploring a 5th of the place is ludicrous although it seems to be widely accepted by skeptics.
Take a look at this webpage on skepdic.com
http://skepdic.com/mokele.html
The problem with skeptics is they tend to ignore facts that may contradict what they want people to believe.
The Quote about the carcass and fossils is stupid as the location that these would be in is unexplored and untouched by man, how are we suppose to find something if we aren't looking for it? Its just like the whole Bigfoot claims of if they were there wed see them more often. Most of the people who write dismissing crap like this probably haven't even ventured into their local park let alone a wild dangerous animal infested jungle unmapped by man. Lets face it, its not as if there is a MacDonald's in the jungle.
Torgo, you also added native cultures invariably include impossible beasts in their mythos, true but considering that this creature that the pygmies mention has been talked about for over 200 years (before westerners knew about dinosaurs) and pygmies aren't exactly archeologists and I don't see them piecing together a fossil they have found and coming up with some creature. Coincidence? maybe but a lot of reports coming from the pygmies have said these creatures leave 3 toe footprints, and considering saurapods had 3 toes id say this is an integral point to consider when we think of the possibility of a MM existing.
Also id like to point out also that it is the pygmies who first told western explorers about the "dark man who lives in the trees" Early reports where contradicting also, some would say it walked on two legs and others would say it had mystical powers but in the end it turned out to be an ordinary Gorilla. Dont be too quick to dismiss native legends and facts on unknown creatures, unlike us arm chair cryptozoologists these natives lives rely on them knowing all the ins and outs of their environment and the creatures that inhabit them, i would think that it would be in their best interest not to fill their heads of make believe creatures, sure they have superstitions connected to these animals but just because people think "if a black cat walks in your path it gives you bad luck" and we can disprove this is the case its hardly suitable cause to consider the existence of a black cat. Behind every legend lies some truth, i feel there is something behind the MM, there is just to strong a case to dismiss it.
TorgosPizza said:
Yeah Torgo, im trying not to let it bother me but i must say i feel let down by the Moderators in this case. I was flamed for opening a cryptozoology thread in the cryptozoology section in a fortean related message board. If this isn't a suitable place to post such a thread i don't know where is, but on saying that i would like to thank the members who have stuck by me and kept me from blowing my top by sending me PMs full of great advice, thanks guys. You know who you are
Also a big thanks to Evil Sprout for doing his best and succeeding in preventing this thread turning into a flame pit. Thanks man
Anyways thats my long post over, pick it apart guys as im sure ive made some mistakes as i got 4 hours sleep last night and i am a bit dizzy to say the least.
TM
