Ogdred Weary
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That's exactly the idea.
More apocalyptic preachers should take that tack, less likely to get caught with their trousers down.
That's exactly the idea.
We could pick up a spark from a gas lighter 10 miles away....
By way of our capabilities:
"The antennas must capture Voyager information from a signal so weak that the power striking the antenna is only 10 exponent -16 watts (1 part in 10 quadrillion). A modern-day electronic digital watch operates at a power level 20 billion times greater than this feeble level."
https://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/did-you-know/
It will never happen.
The aliens are well aware of us here but choose to ignore.
We search afar when the truth is here.
Mankind think they are the kings of creation that we are created in the image of God and nothing can be higher than God.
So we look for life under rocks or await a squiggly line on SETI to indicate an alien's desperate attempt to contact us?
In truth they have already studied our language, know our science and probably watching me as I type this post and you answering it at the other end. They can pick up a spark from a gas lighter 10 miles away as SETI is just a joke!
The only thing that makes SETI great is that it is respectable. Science knows it is never going to happen as the aliens are already here.
This planet is the lowest planet and a learning school. The true aliens are spiritual and NOT the Greys. They are just the Drones to do physical work.
They are NEVER going to detect ET using radio, something akin to a technically advanced civilization sending smoke-signals!
Ha ha, yes - I've been saying this for years. They are probably using quantum entanglement, which we can't detect.
That entirely misses the point of SETI. If there are advanced civilisations out there using quantum entanglement or some other undetectable channel, then we wont detect those messages; but we will detect any messages which they choose to send in the form of radIo waves, which are intended to be detected by civilisations at our level of development. Any advanced civilisation that is both friendly and communicative would deliberately use radio (or some other detectable electromagnetic radiation) to talk to other civilisations, because that is the lowest common denominator. If they choose not to talk, then that is an indication of a secretive or unfriendly demeanour.
Even if one civilisation chooses to be uncommunicative, then there should be another that is willing to talk - unless, of course the uncommunicative civilisation is preventing this discourse somehow. In which case, they can get fucked, the miserable bastards.
We could transmit a powerful signal right now, using Arecibo or a phased-array radar station. Alexander Zaitsev has transmitted quite a few messages using slightly less powerful transmitters. I don't recommend that we do transmit using our most powerful transmitters, in case there are wolves out there. But eventually, someone has to break the silence.
That depends on the amount of focussing the beam has. Yes, a broadcast TV or radio signal would degrade before it got to Alpha Centauri. However, a large transmitter, with a wide aperture (like Arecibo), could focus a radio signal so that it could be detected many tens of light years away by a corresponding receiver at the other end. The amount of focus possible increases with aperture and decreases with wavelength, so short wavelengths are best. But Arecibo cannot be steered, so it only has a very limited range of targets.
Maybe it's using quantum processes within the brain to effect minuscule change? All brains may essentially use the same processes (even if different species).If telepathy works (dubious) how could it possibly work between species with differently-evolved brains? There would be no shared language or mental architecture.
If telepathy works (dubious) how could it possibly work between species with differently-evolved brains? There would be no shared language or mental architecture.
Hmm- maybe a sufficiently advanced alien civilisation could transmit coherent signals into the mind of a sensitive person. But the receiving individual would have no control over the messages received by this channel, and no way of checking the veracity of messages received in this way.
LOLWe probably couldn't even communicate cogently with a bat, let alone an alien.
The problem with bats is that they have an entirely different way of perceiving the world.
See the essay 'What is it like to be a bat?'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Is_it_Like_to_Be_a_Bat?
I would expect aliens to be significantly more different than bats, making the cognitive gap much greater.
No, they do not. Only a few think that the humanoid form is the most probable; most others think the humanoid form is one option among many.Almost every single exo-biologist thinks they would probably be somewhat similar to us regarding being bipedal. having mouths, eyes , limbs, and being upright in some variation of humanoid form.
"If we were to eventually find other intelligent life in the universe, they would be humanoid, I think," Østman concludes. "I find that a high probability." But at the same time, he admits he's in the minority, and most other scientists agree with Gould that humanoid life is unlikely to evolve elsewhere.
Not that I think that telepathy would work, but...If telepathy works (dubious) how could it possibly work between species with differently-evolved brains? There would be no shared language or mental architecture.
Hmm- maybe a sufficiently advanced alien civilisation could transmit coherent signals into the mind of a sensitive person. But the receiving individual would have no control over the messages received by this channel, and no way of checking the veracity of messages received in this way.
If they have been here for a while they might know more about us than we do; entomologists know more about ants than ants know about ants. We are already hacking our thoughts and we are just primitive simians:
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/02/mind-reading-ai-creates-images-from-your-thoughts/
They don't know their own anatomies, how their brains are wired, how they evolved, the chemical makeup of their venom, etc. They are toys for us.I reckon ants know a lot about other ants.