The Prospects For Creating Lightsabers

[Mighty_Emperor]

This could go in stupidity but I thought it fitted here:

Tue 24 May 2005

Two suffer horrific burns in Star Wars laser stunt

ALEX MILLSON

TWO young Star Wars fans were critically ill in hospital last night after a homemade "lightsaber" blew up and showered them in burning petrol.

The 17-year-old girl and a man aged 20 were believed to have filled a fluorescent light tube with petrol before setting it alight.

However, their stunt went tragically wrong when the device exploded in their faces, setting their clothes alight and leaving them with horrific burns.

The horrific accident was revealed when firefighters were called out after reports of a blaze in woodland in Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire.

When the crew arrived at the wood, the fire was out and they discovered the pair lying in agony on the ground.

The man is believed to have suffered more than 40 per cent burns to his body.

Firefighters gave the stricken pair first-aid while waiting for paramedics to arrive. They were taken to a local hospital and later transferred to a specialist burns unit in Chelmsford, where they remained in a critical condition last night.

Specialists said the burns were so horrific that each of the patients had only a 50 per chance of survival.

A spokesman for Hertfordshire Constabulary said investigations into the incident were ongoing to determine exactly what had happened.

The tragedy came just days after the sixth Star Wars film - Revenge of the Sith - was released at cinemas across the UK.

It boasts an impressive lightsaber battle between Ewan McGregor's character, Obi-Wan Kenobi, and his fellow Jedi, Anakin Skywalker, played by Hayden Christensen.

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[Pietro_Mercurios]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...of-matter-resembling-lightsabers-8841612.html

Scientists 'bind light together' to create new state of matter resembling lightsabers

Under extreme temperatures photons were made to behave like molecules - a feat previously thought impossible

The Independent. James Vincent. 26 September 2013


A group of scientists from Harvard and MIT have created a state of matter that until now has only been found in the realms of science fiction.

The physicists were exploring the properties of photons – an elementary particle that is the most basic constituent of light and all other types of electromagnetic radiation – when they managed to create molecules formed from photons bound together.

The discovery is startling as it goes against what scientists have previously believed to be the signature quality of photons: that they are massless particles that do not interact with each other. The capacity to create molecules out of photons has been described by the physicists involved as “pushing the frontiers of science”.

"Most of the properties of light we know about originate from the fact that photons are massless, and that they do not interact with each other," said Harvard Professor of Physics Mikhail Lukin in a press release published at phys.org.

"What we have done is create a special type of medium in which photons interact with each other so strongly that they begin to act as though they have mass, and they bind together to form molecules.”

“It's not an in-apt analogy to compare this to lightsabers," Lukin added. "When these photons interact with each other, they're pushing against and deflect each other. The physics of what's happening in these molecules is similar to what we see in the movies."

To get the photons to interact with one another the team from the Harvard-MIT Center for Ultracold Atoms (a group led by Lukin alongside MIT Professor of Physics Vladan Vuletic) cooled rubidium atoms in a vacuum chamber to just a few degrees above absolute zero – the coldest possible temperature at which particles do not move.

When two photons were fired at the cloud they did not pass through it and exit individually (as had been expected) but emerged on the other side as a single molecule. This was due to the Rydberg blockade, which states that when an atom is excited (has energy imparted to it) nearby atoms cannot be excited to the same degree.

This meant that as the first photon excited atoms in the cloud but had to move on before the second photon could do the same. Lukin describes the end result as the photons pushing and pulling each other through the cloud.

"It's a photonic interaction that's mediated by the atomic interaction," said Lukin. "That makes these two photons behave like a molecule, and when they exit the medium they're much more likely to do so together than as single photons."

The scientists involved are hoping to use their discovery to aid quantum computing (rather than build futuristic weaponry) as that technology would rely on photons to carry and exchange quantum information.

"What it will be useful for we don't know yet,” said Lukin, “but it's a new state of matter, so we are hopeful that new applications may emerge as we continue to investigate these photonic molecules' properties.”

I suspect that it will still take technology the size of a truck to enable it.

 

[GNC]

Technology gets smaller all the time. I predict Christmas 2020 will see an upsurge in animatronic hands being fitted.

 

[Moooksta]

I suspect that it will still take technology the size of a truck to enable it.

I don't care...I want my lightsaber !!! :gaga:

 

[MercuryCrest]

http://phys.org/news/2013-09-scientists-never-before-seen.html

I'm on the fence about quoting the whole article, and I don't think it's likely to disappear, but as far as I know, this is standard....

Harvard and MIT scientists are challenging the conventional wisdom about light, and they didn't need to go to a galaxy far, far away to do it.

Working with colleagues at the Harvard-MIT Center for Ultracold Atoms, a group led by Harvard Professor of Physics Mikhail Lukin and MIT Professor of Physics Vladan Vuletic have managed to coax photons into binding together to form molecules – a state of matter that, until recently, had been purely theoretical. The work is described in a September 25 paper in Nature.

The discovery, Lukin said, runs contrary to decades of accepted wisdom about the nature of light. Photons have long been described as massless particles which don't interact with each other – shine two laser beams at each other, he said, and they simply pass through one another.

"Photonic molecules," however, behave less like traditional lasers and more like something you might find in science fiction – the light saber.

"Most of the properties of light we know about originate from the fact that photons are massless, and that they do not interact with each other," Lukin said. "What we have done is create a special type of medium in which photons interact with each other so strongly that they begin to act as though they have mass, and they bind together to form molecules. This type of photonic bound state has been discussed theoretically for quite a while, but until now it hadn't been observed.

"It's not an in-apt analogy to compare this to light sabers," Lukin added. "When these photons interact with each other, they're pushing against and deflect each other. The physics of what's happening in these molecules is similar to what we see in the movies."

To get the normally-massless photons to bind to each other, Lukin and colleagues, including Harvard post-doctoral fellow Ofer Fisterberg, former Harvard doctoral student Alexey Gorshkov and MIT graduate students Thibault Peyronel and Qiu Liang couldn't rely on something like the Force – they instead turned to a set of more extreme conditions.

Researchers began by pumped rubidium atoms into a vacuum chamber, then used lasers to cool the cloud of atoms to just a few degrees above absolute zero. Using extremely weak laser pulses, they then fired single photons into the cloud of atoms.

As the photons enter the cloud of cold atoms, Lukin said, its energy excites atoms along its path, causing the photon to slow dramatically. As the photon moves through the cloud, that energy is handed off from atom to atom, and eventually exits the cloud with the photon.

"When the photon exits the medium, its identity is preserved," Lukin said. "It's the same effect we see with refraction of light in a water glass. The light enters the water, it hands off part of its energy to the medium, and inside it exists as light and matter coupled together, but when it exits, it's still light. The process that takes place is the same it's just a bit more extreme – the light is slowed considerably, and a lot more energy is given away than during refraction."

When Lukin and colleagues fired two photons into the cloud, they were surprised to see them exit together, as a single molecule.

The reason they form the never-before-seen molecules?

An effect called a Rydberg blockade, Lukin said, which states that when an atom is excited, nearby atoms cannot be excited to the same degree. In practice, the effect means that as two photons enter the atomic cloud, the first excites an atom, but must move forward before the second photon can excite nearby atoms.

The result, he said, is that the two photons push and pull each other through the cloud as their energy is handed off from one atom to the next.

"It's a photonic interaction that's mediated by the atomic interaction," Lukin said. "That makes these two photons behave like a molecule, and when they exit the medium they're much more likely to do so together than as single photons."

While the effect is unusual, it does have some practical applications as well.

"We do this for fun, and because we're pushing the frontiers of science," Lukin said. "But it feeds into the bigger picture of what we're doing because photons remain the best possible means to carry quantum information. The handicap, though, has been that photons don't interact with each other."

To build a quantum computer, he explained, researchers need to build a system that can preserve quantum information, and process it using quantum logic operations. The challenge, however, is that quantum logic requires interactions between individual quanta so that quantum systems can be switched to perform information processing.

"What we demonstrate with this process allows us to do that," Lukin said. "Before we make a useful, practical quantum switch or photonic logic gate we have to improve the performance, so it's still at the proof-of-concept level, but this is an important step. The physical principles we've established here are important."

The system could even be useful in classical computing, Lukin said, considering the power-dissipation challenges chip-makers now face. A number of companies – including IBM – have worked to develop systems that rely on optical routers that convert light signals into electrical signals, but those systems face their own hurdles.

Lukin also suggested that the system might one day even be used to create complex three-dimensional structures – such as crystals – wholly out of light.

"What it will be useful for we don't know yet, but it's a new state of matter, so we are hopeful that new applications may emerge as we continue to investigate these photonic molecules' properties," he said.

 

[Anome]

I think it's valid to discuss this in New Science. Especially as the whole thing seems a bit dodgy to me. From what I can tell, and I admit I'm not an expert, nor have I seen any of the actual papers yet, there's some confusion about what some of the terms being used actually mean. (Nothing new in that.)

Either it's a remarkable breakthrough, or it's an example of science being misinterpreted in an interesting way. Either way, there's a discussion that belongs more in New Science than in the Star Wars thread.

 

[Pietro_Mercurios]

I think it's valid to discuss this in New Science. Especially as the whole thing seems a bit dodgy to me. From what I can tell, and I admit I'm not an expert, nor have I seen any of the actual papers yet, there's some confusion about what some of the terms being used actually mean. (Nothing new in that.)

Either it's a remarkable breakthrough, or it's an example of science being misinterpreted in an interesting way. Either way, there's a discussion that belongs more in New Science than in the Star Wars thread.

I think it belongs in both. Although, I admit that I posted the story in the Star Wars thread partially to tease the fans.



Seriously, some of the use of language, i.e. 'coax photons into binding together to form molecules' reads as not much better than pseudo-scientific gibberish. I blame the journalist, though.

 

[Anome]

Yeah, I think it's a confluence of wishful thinking on the part of the press, and a badly worded press release.

 

[Analis]

Is this a possible explanation for UFO cases involving truncated beams (also called sometimes solid light) ?

 

[GNC]

Is this a possible explanation for UFO cases involving truncated beams (also called sometimes solid light) ?

Solid light holograms could be interesting (yes, I did think of Red Dwarf).

 

[Tribble]

Engineers build their own protosabers (early form of lightsaber). (Ok, technically they're high-current tungsten/titanium heating elements that just happen to glow brightly and cut/burn through things)

 

[Trevp666]

Actual solid light moving holograms created.
Incredible tech.

They may be tiny weapons, but BYU’s holography research group has figured out how to create lightsabers — green for Yoda and red for Darth Vader, naturally — with actual luminous beams rising from them.

https://scitechdaily.com/hologram-e...ove-in-the-air-like-a-a-3d-printer-for-light/

 

[EnolaGaia]

Engineers build their own protosabers (early form of lightsaber). (Ok, technically they're high-current tungsten/titanium heating elements that just happen to glow brightly and cut/burn through things) ...

James Hobson and his team at Hacksmith continued their development of a real world lightsaber. In December 2020 Guinness recognized him for creating the first retractable proto-saber (an advance beyond the fixed-blade device illustrated above, but still tethered to external components).

A Canadian YouTuber earned a Guinness World Record by taking his engineering skills to a galaxy far, far away, and building the world's first retractable proto-lightsaber.

James Hobson said he and his team at Hacksmith Industries were inspired by the Star Wars films to create their own version of a retractable plasma lightsaber. ...

The lightsaber has a hilt designed to resemble those used by the Jedi Knights, but is attached to tanks of liquid propane gas and oxygen gas to create the high level of heat required to make the plasma beam. The "blade" can be extended and retracted with the push of a button. ...

FULL STORY: https://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2020/1...ghtsaber-earns-Guinness-record/2001607108709/

 

[EnolaGaia]

A Russian experimenter has recently unveiled the first retractable lightsaber that is self-contained (i.e., it is not tethered to any external components).

Russian YouTuber's retractable lightsaber earns Guinness World Record

A Russian YouTuber has been recognized by Guinness World Records as the inventor of the world's first retractable lightsaber.

Alex Burkan, who runs the Alex Lab channel on YouTube, unveiled his Star Wars-inspired invention, which produces a plasma blade that measures more than 3 feet in length and burns at a temperature of 5,072 degrees -- hot enough to cut through steel. ...

"The key component of my lightsaber is an electrolyzer. An electrolyzer is a device that can generate a huge amount of hydrogen and oxygen and compress the gas to any pressure without a mechanical compressor " ...

He said it took hundreds of experiments to get his apparatus to match the size and shape of a lightsaber hilt.

"This is a first prototype so it has lots of limitations. It works for only 30 seconds on full power, the hydrogen torch is not as stable as it could be and you can easily see it when it moves. Sometimes the lightsaber just blows up in your hand because of hydrogen flashback " ...

FULL STORY: https://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2022/0...s-first-retractable-lightsaber/9331643049071/

 

[Kondoru]

But do we need such things?

Even in the GFFA only the Jedi and Sith ever used them, and then not often.

(General Grievous was an exception, but a pro Jedi killer with cybernetic...and therefore expendable, limbs).

The proto Jedi used Katanas.

 

[Lobeydosser]

"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid"
Was true along time ago in a galaxy far, far away and is true today as well.

 

[Roland Deschain]

"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid"
Was true along time ago in a galaxy far, far away and is true today as well.

Solos blaster - no special effects