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Is Youtube the nest of a secret web of perversion?
26 November 2017
26 November 2017
What would constitute "dark content for children"?They may have been crap on dealing with dark content for children (I spoke to my wife about this eighteen months ago when I found my daughter had clicked onto one such video), and they may have been unfair and politically partisan against the libertarian right (there's an argument), but I see no connection between these facts.
What would constitute "dark content for children"?
Pseudo-sexual drugged abduction?
There's loads of this kind of stuff on YouTube and the links to it branch off from authorised character franchise uploads. One minute a child is watching an official My Little Pony video, and two clicks later Cat Woman is tied to a bed having been chloroformed by Hitler and having goo sprayed in her face and her teeth pulled out by the Joker while giving birth.
If you don't have kids, you may not have bumped into it, but it's huge. YouTube final started to act this week after years of complaints.
its not called manga its called anime and manga are comic books from japan.I have to be careful what I look at on Youtube, because my account has become linked to a couple of the grandchildren's ones (probably because they log in to my wi-fi as soon as they arrive).
I don't tend to view anything questionable so the worst that can happen is they overdose on '70's rock or my Nat King Cole obsession, but I watched the John Lydon interview that Skinny linked to on the 'What Music' thread and now have a load of recommendations for further Sex Pistols videos. This also works in reverse, so I know which Manga-type cartoons they have seen but, as you know, they can take an unexpected dark turn half way through.
I've come across something called Elsagate. The facts seem to be:
1) There are a lot of inappropriate-for-children videos on youtube disguised to look like children's videos, that children will inadvertently watch
2) There is a lot of speculation and conspiracy theory surrounding them
Interesting reading.
With respect to Yithian, and apologies for reviving this thread, there is MUCH more to this than 'clickbait for very young children', which I could understand, if the videos were just random clips from cartoons etc. But they're not - these videos are very creepy and disturbing, and a large number of them have (what can only be deliberately) inappropriate events in them. No-one seems to have any information about them, aside from a few YouTubers who don't seem to have got very far in their investigations. And there are a number of theories, none of which seem to be obviously totally wrong: that they're produced en masse by AI, perhaps as a kind of experiment; that they're used by paedophiles to communicate in code or stenographically in some way, or to desensitise children to abuse; that they're large-scale trolling; or that they're some kind of mind-control experiment.
I am about as far from a conspiracy theorist as you could get, but the phenomenon is definitely worth investigating. Straightforward or innocent explanations don't seem to cut it. Apart from anything else, from a Fortean perspective, it's a great example of how the internet is an enabler for new and unforeseen strange phenomena.
It could be trolling combined with a revenue-generating model, but it's certainly not run-of-the-mill. Some of these channels are among the most viewed on Youtube, with hit patterns that are completely bizarre (e.g. 50m views on the day they're posted). The content is disturbing and insidious rather than overtly shocking, which is an unusual modus operandi for wannabe trolls. The scale is staggering, and the videos seem to be produced in different countries using the same small set of characters and themes. If it is monetised trolling - and I'd be interested in proof, one way or the other, because I don't think it's obvious that that's the explanation - there are still many questions that I'd really like an answer to.
What would constitute "dark content for children"?
I go with the AI theory as its like that Microsoft AI that became a Nazi loving conspiracy theorist and had to be shut down.... I don't know where it will end up but it would be funneh if some trolling youtubers beat the scientists to the first fully aware AI.
View attachment 9011 oh, and another thing: using an outlook-account, I can't login at youtube (to confirm my age or to make playlists). so google is actively excluding others and they think that's normal, business-like, competition.. first I have to create a gmail-account, hahaHAHAha?? well, no way Alexa! ever since america voted last year, I quit my gmail-account, just to resist america's drive to dominance at the cost of others
We don't let our kids access Youtube because of these weird videos. It was a thing here in Sweden already 4 or 5 years ago with Swedish cartoons being dubbed over with inappropriate scripts (in Swedish). I think there were also new animations made to look like the old originals but which then took a dark and disturbing turn in the middle. So you could choose a cartoon for the kids and all would seem normal but then after 10 or 15 mins it would become weird.
But we caught onto it quite early and the kids don't use Youtube at all.
We don't let our kids access Youtube because of these weird videos. It was a thing here in Sweden already 4 or 5 years ago with Swedish cartoons being dubbed over with inappropriate scripts (in Swedish). I think there were also new animations made to look like the old originals but which then took a dark and disturbing turn in the middle. So you could choose a cartoon for the kids and all would seem normal but then after 10 or 15 mins it would become weird. But we caught onto it quite early and the kids don't use Youtube at all.