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Airships / Blimps / Dirigibles (Lighter-Than-Air Craft)

Way hey! A flying saucer!

The giant airships which can carry entire buildings hundreds of miles
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 1:58 AM on 5th October 2010

Giant balloons that can carry loads over long distances could one day even transport entire buildings.

Australian firm Skylifter is developing a piloted airship that will carry up to 150 tonnes more than 1,200 miles.
They hope that the vehicles could one day carry rural hospitals and disaster-relief centres to remote areas.

The airship has been designed as a disc rather than a conventional cigar shape, which the developers say makes it easier to steer and carry heavy loads under different wind conditions.

Measuring 500ft across - the size of a football stadium - it will move using propellers which can be adjusted to change direction while the heavy weight of the load hanging underneath keeps the airship steady.
And the payload it carries will be 700 times that of a heavy cargo helicopter.

Skylifter has already produced a prototype called Betty which is just under 10ft across and can carry just over a pound in weight.
It has also produced a 60ft-wide prototype of the balloon design itself, without an engine.
The firm plans to launch a full-sized prototype, nearly 150ft wide, within the next three years.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... z11TG5larB
 
rynner2 said:
Skylifter has already produced a prototype called Betty which is just under 10ft across and can carry just over a pound in weight.

Ah, I reckon I could cobble that together!

But I am all for it - these things make a lot of sense when it comes to carrying cargo.
 
Ten feet across for about 500g? Maybe they should try harder.

Of course, scalability will cause limits, but still...
 
Forgotten History, Anniversary... and airship!

America the airship: the first transatlantic crossing
In 1910, six men (and a cat) attempted to cross the Atlantic in an airship. Only now is their pioneering journey being remembered.
By Jasper Copping
Published: 4:50PM BST 13 Oct 2010

It was the first attempt to fly across the Atlantic Ocean. On October 15 1910, the airship America, with a crew of six – and a cat – crept out of its hangar in Atlantic City and headed out to sea.

The voyage was being led by Walter Wellman, an American journalist and adventurer who had turned his attention to the vast ocean after being thwarted in his efforts to set records as a polar explorer.

With the airship craze in full swing, Wellman had also managed to persuade three newspapers – The Daily Telegraph and The New York Times among them – to finance the daring expedition.

One member of the America’s crew was especially excited. Murray Simon, a 29-year-old junior officer serving on the Oceanic, one of the many sister ships of the yet-to-be-launched Titanic, had been given special permission by his employers to become the America’s navigator.

Steering such a vessel would be no easy task. The airship was comprised of a cotton and silk balloon 228ft long, filled with hydrogen, beneath which ran a long slim ‘car’, or enclosed catwalk, which housed the crew as well as engines to power four propellers. The vessel was steered by a rudder at the stern and a wheel in the front of the car.

Slung beneath the car was a lifeboat and an ungainly, metal ‘tail’ called an equilibrator, which trailed 300ft behind the airship. It was designed to drag in the water and to hold the airship at a steady height.

The idea was that as the air temperature rose, the hydrogen in the balloon would expand, causing the airship to rise. This would pull the equilibrator from the water, making it heavier and controlling the ascent. When the temperature fell, the reverse would happen.

With favourable weather, the crew expected to reach land in northern Europe after around five days. As The Daily Telegraph reported: ‘Mr Simon has no preference for landing places. Hampstead Heath would suit as well as Salisbury Plain.’

The voyage was to make celebrities of its crew – feline as well as human. However, its ultimate failure meant that this remarkable and pioneering flight has since been overshadowed in the annals of aviation.

Now, 100 years on, its significance is being reappraised. A new, permanent display at the Smithsonian museum in Washington will mark the centenary, and on October 21, Anthony Simon, whose grandfather Murray, from Devon, was the navigator, is to give a presentation to the Zeppelin Museum, in Friedrichshafen, Germany, based on his relative’s light-hearted log of the expedition.

etc...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ssing.html
 
Back to the future:

New generation of airships to transport goods around the world
Airships are set to return to the skies in a Nasa project aimed at revolutionising the way cargo is transported around the world.
[video clip]
By Richard Gray, Science Correspondent
3:08PM BST 03 Sep 2011

The space agency is developing the new generation of airships, which it believes will replace lorries, trains and ships as means of carrying freight.
The first prototype is expected to make its maiden voyage next year and scientists leading the project predict airships capable of carrying hundreds of tonnes of cargo at a time will be airborne by the end of the decade.

It comes more than 70 years after the Hindenburg disaster, which brought an end to the earlier airship era.
However, the development of modern materials and aerodynamics knowledge gained from the space race means that the new generation will be capable of safely carrying loads that could not be managed in the past.

Dr Simon Worden, director of the Nasa Ames Research Center in California, said: "Currently the majority of goods are put on trucks and trains to be transported around the country.
"That is a very expensive and time consuming process. You could imagine an airship landing in a field, loading produce directly and then delivering it anywhere in the world for much cheaper than we can today. Those sorts of things look very promising.

"Initially we are expecting to be able to lift tens of tonnes and we are building a demonstrator that we hope to fly at the end of next year. This will be very useful for remote communities like those in Alaska where there are no roads.
"In the long run, I think it could be used for many forms of cargo transport. One of the ideas that people have looked at is that these things can go up to hundreds of tonnes. We will have those by the end of the decade."

As well as carrying cargo, the new craft could also have military applications – providing logistic support – and Nasa is working with the US Department of Defense, as well as a range of private companies, to develop the new vehicles.

The prototype airship is being built with California-based company Aeros, who have developed a new system that allows the buoyancy of the airships to be altered without loading or offloading material.
In the past airships relied on taking on board water or soil as ballast to ensure they stayed on the ground as passengers and cargo was taken on board. It also made adjusting the buoyancy mid-flight relatively difficult.
Instead, the new ships – starting with prototype, the Aeros Pelican – will carry compressor tanks that can add or remove helium to bladders inside the airship to adjust its altitude

A rigid structure using carbon composite fibre instead a metal structure also allows the airship to lift far heavier loads than earlier airships could.
Engineers have also modified the old cigar shaped Zeppelin design for a flatter and more aerodynamic shape.

Airships had been widely used in the early part of the twentieth century, but a number of high profile accidents, including the 1937 Hindenburg disaster in New Jersey that killed 36 people, saw them lose popularity.
The flammable skin and explosive hydrogen gas used to lift the airships made them unsafe, while their fragile structures were also vulnerable to anything but the most calm weather conditions.

Although new, safer airships have been developed and are currently in service, the constraints of their design and technology has meant their use and their numbers have been strictly limited.

The new generation of airships will be vertical take off vehicles that land on rough terrain without the need for infrastructure, like specialist landing pads. This would make loading and unloading them far easier.
They could also be fitted with solar cells, to increase their efficiency.

In a separate development, a British company last month signed a new deal with a Canadian aviation company that could lead to 45 new airships capable of lifting 50 tonnes. Hybrid Air Vehicle, which is based in Cranfield, say they will be capable of travelling at 115mph.
It has also recently delivered an airship to the US Army for use in surveillance, but it is also capable of being modified to carry more than 10 tonnes of cargo.

A spokesman for Hybrid Air Vehicles said: "The Heavy Lift Programme is currently in its detailed design phase with construction planned for 2012 and the first vehicle scheduled to enter commercial service in 2014.
"Our heavy lift and cargo vehicles will have a payload capability ranging from 20 to 200 tonnes with future development potential of up to 1.000 tonnes."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/greene ... world.html
 
rynner2 said:
Back to the future:

New generation of airships to transport goods around the world
Airships are set to return to the skies in a Nasa project aimed at revolutionising the way cargo is transported around the world.
[video clip]
By Richard Gray, Science Correspondent
3:08PM BST 03 Sep 2011....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/greene ... world.html
Wonder how they plan to manage the Helium shortage. The world's going to be all out in 20-30 years.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/why-the-world-is-running-out-of-helium-2059357.html
 
kamalktk said:
Wonder how they plan to manage the Helium shortage. The world's going to be all out in 20-30 years.
I wondered that.

Then I thought, well NASA knows there's plenty of helium in the sun, so they'll go and mine it there! ;)

Or perhaps they're keeping their fingers crossed that someone will finally get fusion reactors to work:
As a consequence, most fusion reactions combine isotopes of hydrogen ("protium", deuterium, or tritium) to form isotopes of helium (3He or 4He)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_reactors#Fuel_cycle
 
Fleet of hybrid airships to conquer Arctic
http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/onepe ... ships.html
14:15 8 September 2011
Technology
Joel Shurkin, contributor


Travelling through the Arctic is notoriously difficult and climate change is making it even harder. But there is a way to rise above the problem: the latest generation of lighter-than-air vehicles. Canadian company Discovery Air has signed a contract with the UK's Hybrid Air Vehicles (HAV) to buy around 45 new hybrid air vehicles. These aircraft will be used across Canada's Northwest Territories.

Whether taking out lumber from the forests or helping people access remote villages, transportation in Arctic Canada can be extrememly daunting. Most transportation is either by air, which is expensive, by boat, or by ice road. Rising winter temperatures, due to climate change, are likely to make Canada's ice roads less stable and reduce the amount of time in winter in which they can safely be used.

Gordon Taylor, marketing director for HAV, says the vessels are technically neither airships nor blimps. While they do make use of non-explosive helium for lift, they also get substantial lift from the aerodynamic design of the fuselage.

HAV already has a major contract for hybrid vehicles with the US Defence Department for long-endurance surveillance vessels.

The vessels Discovery Air has ordered are HAV's model 366, which Taylor says can carry 50 tonnes if they take off horizontally like an airplane and around 30 tonnes if they take off vertically. Not even the largest helicopters in the world can match that, explains Taylor.

One hundred and ten metres long, the vessels can reach altitudes of almost 3000 metres and can take off and land almost anywhere. The cargo will fit in the fuselage for very long trips or can hang beneath the ship for shorter ones. Later models can also be flown remotely.
 
More on HAVs:

The inventor who's putting blimps back on the radar
If all goes to plan, we could see a fully British-built airship crossing the Atlantic as early as 2014. Jerome Taylor reports
Tuesday, 13 September 2011

In the far corner of an unlit office on an industrial estate in Bedfordshire, David Burns is sitting in front of a bank of flickering computer screens, his hands grasping a joystick and multiple throttle levers. In front of him is a digital mock-up of an airport on the east coast on America. As he pushes the throttle forward the camera slowly begins to move down the airfield before lifting off into the sky above.

"There she goes," he says. "All you need is about 30 knots to get her off the ground and she's away."
The "she" this softly spoken Scottish pilot is referring to is a computer-simulated version of what will soon be the first fleet of commercial airships to be built in Britain for more than 80 years.

Mr Burns is a test pilot for Hybrid Air Vehicles, a British engineering company that is pioneering a comeback of the dirigible behemoths of yesteryear with a modern twist that will make them both safer and significantly more efficient than their predecessors.

The Cranfield-based company, that struggled for years to be taken seriously by the aviation industry, has just signed a multimillion-pound contract with a Canadian firm to supply a brand new range of heavy-lift airships that will carry goods to remote areas of the Arctic, where roads are non-existent.

They will be used mainly in the mining industry to ship in heavy equipment and take away raw material from some of the most remote communities in North America. The first generation of 300ft-long (91m) ships will be able to lift up to 20 tons but there are plans for vessels that could lift ten times that.

It sounds like something straight out of a Philip Pullman novel – giant airships floating near silently through the ice-cold skies of the Arctic – but if all goes to plan we could see a fully built British airship crossing the Atlantic as early as 2014.

Except don't call it an airship. "We're really trying to get away from that word," says Gordon Taylor, the company's Canadian-born, smooth- talking marketing director. "If anything they're closer to airplanes, there's a fundamental difference. We like to call them hybrid air vehicles because they amalgamate both the technology of an aeroplane and an airship."

Mr Taylor's discomfort is understandable. For decades enthusiasts and logistics experts have argued in favour of a return of Zeppelins as an efficient and more than feasible form of transport that could be a vital bridge between commercial jets and slow-moving ocean liners.
But ever since the Hindenburg caught fire in 1937 as it docked in New Jersey, both the public and investors have been terrified of revisiting such a form of transport.

In many ways our fear is unfounded. Neither cars nor aircraft were anything like as safe in the 1930s as they are now and yet we never gave up on them when disaster struck. Equally when The Titanic sunk we didn't abandon ocean liners. But when the Hindenburg crashed to the ground, so did the entire airship industry. What made that tragedy different was that the hydrogen-filled airship ignited and crashed in front of a host of film cameras and photographers at a time when the modern media has just started to wield unparalleled influence.

Fast forward 70 years and the new generation of hybrid airships coming on to the market are a very different breed from their predecessors. The Zeppelins of the past were built on a rigid aluminium frame out of cotton, silk and ox-gut and were often filled with highly flammable hydrogen. They were notoriously leaky and had none of the navigation or metrological equipment now use to ensure comfortable flying. Hybrid Air Vehicles' new ships are filled with entirely inert helium into a Kevlar-reinforced semi-rigid balloon that loses less than three per cent of its gas every year. The balloon itself is aerodynamically shaped like an oversized wing, providing lift as it moves forward. Four engines add extra power, allowing it to take off and land on anything from gravel, sand, ice and water.

Barry Prentice, a professor of supply chain management at the University of Manitoba, builds, tests and studies airships. He describes the plan to supply northern Canada with a fleet of the vehicles as "a tipping point" that will herald the return of commercial Zeppelins.
"For decades there has been a complete lack of confidence in airships as a mode of transport but the mining industry is exactly the sort of investment you need to encourage others to follow suit," he says.

"Say you discover a gold mine in a remote corner of the Arctic, the first thing you have to do is build a road. It's an incredibly expensive process and once the mine is finished the road is useless.
"Airships change all that. Once it catches on and is shown to work, the idea will spread."

Ironically, it was the US military that first took a punt on airships and generated enough confidence in the idea to give it traction in the 21st century.

Because of secretive contractual commitments Hybrid Air Vehicles can't talk about it. But it is a matter or public record that the Bedford firm – alongside American arms giant Northrop Grumman – won a half-billion-dollar contract last year to build three surveillance blimps that will give the US military unparalleled eavesdropping abilities over battlefields.

The so-called Long-Endurance Multi-intelligence Vehicles (LEMVs), which can hover at 20,000ft for 21 days, are packed with sophisticated computers and listening devices that military chiefs hope will allow them to send real-time intelligence to troops on the ground within 15 seconds.

It might sound counter-intuitive to have a giant inflatable balloon floating above a battlefield bristling with weaponry but defence tests have shown that the blimp is virtually indestructible.
The inert helium is at such a low pressure that even if the blimp is holed by bullets it would take days to seep out (though 20,000ft is well beyond the range of anything not rocket-fuelled anyway). Surface to air missiles, meanwhile, bounce off without exploding and the ship cannot be detected by radar.

One defence industry official who saw the tests conducted on a prototype said: "We shot at it with 120 half-inch armour-piercing rounds and three days later the balloon was still flying. It's a remarkable piece of kit." 8)

The exact timing of when the balloons will be combat ready has not been released publicly but industry sources have told The Independent that they expect the first ship to be above Afghanistan before the start of the timetabled 2012 troop withdrawals. The first blimp is already being assembled in the States and could be up and running by the end of the year. For those in the industry the hope is that the arrival on heavy-lift Zeppelins both on the battlefield and in the Arctic could pave the way for the return of luxury cruise liners in the sky.

It is a pitch that Hybrid Air Vehicles's Gordon Taylor has clearly rehearsed.
"Imagine you're with 400 of your best friends," he says with a wry smile. "You head down to Regent's Park International and board one of our vessels at 11am on a Thursday morning. There's fine dining, cocktails, stately rooms and dinner dances.
"The flight across the Atlantic takes 30 hours so there's no jet lag. The only thing you'd need to worry about it how to get over the hangover from all those cocktails."

It's hard to argue with that. :D

etc...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/peopl ... 53673.html
 
The future is history
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/tele ... story.html
Telegraph View: The latest potential defence acquisition shouldn't surprise us.

An HAV3 airship after a test flight at Cardington Airfield

By Telegraph View7:33AM GMT 13 Feb 20129 Comments

The Royal Navy may no longer have an aircraft carrier; the RAF has lost its jump jets and its state-of-the-art Nimrods; and the Army is at its lowest level since before the Napoleonic wars. So perhaps we should not be surprised to discover that the latest potential defence acquisition is – an airship. The Navy is looking to buy what is now called a Long Endurance Multi-Intelligence Vehicle to supply its ships and carry out surveillance.

The US Army is about to deploy dirigibles in Afghanistan, an odd juxtaposition of the old with the new hi-tech Predator drones. But why limit this return to the past to defence procurement? Stately journeys across the Atlantic by (safe) airships would be a welcome alternative to packed passenger jets. And what about a revival of the old flying boats for a long, lazy and luxurious trip to the Far East once more?
 
21st century airships may join Navy fleet
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... fleet.html

A new generation of British-built airships may be bought by the Royal Navy to resupply ships, follwoing their use by the US Army on the front line in Afghanistan.

Airship that can travel over 90mph could by used by Royal Navy
By Thomas Harding, Defence Correspondent11:44AM GMT 13 Feb 2012
Modern-day Zeppelins will take to the sky for the first time since the First World War when the US Army begins using airships in Afghanistan.

But Navy chiefs are now giving serious consideration to purchasing an airship from the Bedfordshire-based Hybrid Air Vehicles to provide surveillance and re-supply runs to aircraft carriers, The Daily Telegraph can discose.
Scientists from the defence company Northrop Grumman have given briefings to the Navy on the latest airship that is about to enter military service.

The Long Endurance Multi-Intelligence Vehicle is set to revolutionise air transport by being able to carry very heavy loads or intelligence kit long distances with the ability to land anywhere, including on the water.

The Navy is looking to buy an LEMV to base above the fleet with sophisticated surveillance cameras to spot threats and spy on enemy movements. With a 50 ton payload it can also be used to carry urgent equipment parts such as engines for Joint Strike Fighters out to ships.

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Commanders are also considering using it as a counter piracy vessel as the LEMV can lower up to 150 commandos along with their fast inflatable boats.
Travelling at over 80 knots the airship is almost three times faster than ships and the Navy’s version can travel for several days without refuelling its four gas turbine engines.

With a mixture of 60 per cent helium and 40 per cent air it is far less vulnerable to enemy fire than the hydrogen filled Zeppelins that fell prey to the Fleet Air Arm’s incendiary bullets during the Great War.

Tests by the Bedfordshire-based company Hybrid Air Vehicles have shown that bullets and even missiles can pass through the balloon without igniting the gas mixture which has a very low pressure.

“This could be the ideal solution for logistical support for aircraft carriers and ISR (intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance) for the Fleet,” said a Navy source.
“Carrying 50 tons of stores and supplies it is more than double the capacity of a Hercules.”

The airships will cost £60 million each and can be flown remotely as an unmanned drone.

They could prove a major boon for the struggling British aircraft industry if they attract commercial interest. Oil companies are looking at LEMVs to carry heavy equipment to remote drilling stations without having to use an airfield.

They could also open up a more leisurely route across the Atlantic carrying 200 passengers in safety and comfort in a 36 hour journey consuming a fifth of the fuel used by a jet.

The airships could even be used to transport good within Britain. The company estimates the two hour road journey from Milton Keynes to the heart of London could be cut to 20 minutes

HAV secured a US defence contract for £315 million in 2010 to provide three airships that will take station over Afghanistan able to remain airborne for three weeks while surveying the Taliban over a vast area.

A MoD spokesman said: "The MoD recently received briefings on the possible use of airships and specifically Hybrid Air Vehicles for the movement of equipment and stores but there are currently no plans to buy such equipment.”
 
I like airships. I want there to be airships. There's just one thing that concerns me.

If we have airships in the skies, how will we ever be able to tell if we stumble into a parallel universe?

Or does it mean we're already in the parallel universe?
 
I seriously used to envy my Dad for having seen a proper full-size airship when he was in New York (in the mid 30's I think - he said he saw Babe Ruth play for the Yankees as well so maybe 1934).

It was an airship aircraft carrier - I think it was this one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Macon_%28ZRS-5%29
 
Anome_ said:
I like airships. I want there to be airships. There's just one thing that concerns me.

If we have airships in the skies, how will we ever be able to tell if we stumble into a parallel universe?

Or does it mean we're already in the parallel universe?

I want to explore Lost Worlds in the Amazon Basin in an Airship.
 
Living in an airship, exploring remote ruins and things has long been a notion of mine. The movie "Up" struck a particular chord, but obviously it's just a recent example of a long line of "adventurers in airships" that appealed to me ;)

I actually found a forum where people discuss making their own "small blimps" that I post in occasionally, although not often as it's too much of a pipe dream (although some of the forum-goers are actually trying to build test materials/etc.)

Of course, I'd also use hydrogen, it's very cheap, renewable, provides more lift (all pros over helium) and relatively safe - for one thing, don't coat your airship in highly flammable magnesium like the Hindenburg was, so the slightest spark or impact could set fire to the whole outer shell. Without this to help the fire spread, it can only burn at the surface of the envelopes, so some careful choice of flame retardant treatments or materials should minimise damage. (I wonder if the Hindenburg might even have suffered the same fate had it been filled with helium, due to the outer shell bursting into flames and consuming the internal helium envelopes anyway)

(and of course, 2/3 of the people on board survived the Hindenburg crash, and they did so by jumping out and running away, as being filled with lifting gas and fire it crashed very slowly)
 
Werner Herzog made an excellent documentary about a scientist in the jungle who used an airship to investigate the environment. It's called The White Diamond, and also illustrates the dangers of the vehicles in heartbreaking terms.
 
There are "flying tea kettles" that use steam for lift. I just stumbled on them by accident.

Too many people think airships are something for nothing,sadly, the lighter than air craft has serious disadvantages. It's fragile, and vulnerable to bad weather. It also has limited lifting capacity for all its great size.

See McPhee's "The Deltoid Pumpkin Seed" for more LTA lore.

And I want them back, too. I saw a Navy blimp fly over when I was a kid, and never forgot it.

The thought of a real Zeppilin makes me tingle!
 
gncxx said:
Werner Herzog made an excellent documentary about a scientist in the jungle who used an airship to investigate the environment. It's called The White Diamond, and also illustrates the dangers of the vehicles in heartbreaking terms.

Thanks for that info. Will track it down.
 
Don't forget to read McPhee's "The Deltoid Pumpkin Seed) much good information in there.

I was looking up some airship lore recently, just because I love them

Hydrogen gives much more lift than helium.
Helium is a byproduct of natural gas-at one time almost all the helium avilible in the world was in the dirgiible USS Los Angeles.
Blimps were very dangerous to U-boats. One was destroyed in a machine gun duel with a submarine after her bomb release failed.
A Navy blimp grounded in California in 1942. No trace of the two pilots was ever found(see, The Ghost Blimp)
Hydrogen burns fast, but with little energy, what makes hydrogen filled balloons so dangerous is the sudden loss of lift. The 'Hindenburg' fire was mostly the fuel for her motors. Of course, the heavy frame crashing to the ground was bad, too.

Perhaps airships will return, I hope so!
 
I beleive the biggest problem with large airships is not their inflammability but their vulnerability to high winds and general 'weather' both in the air and on the ground.
 
My mum saw a Zeppelin shot down in 1917 or thereabouts. Apparently there were quite a few shot down in the Great War ; a sitting duck in the sky filled with hydrogen.

Presumably they are a little less prone to catastrophic failure under fire these days...
 
Apparently they were quite hard to shoot down with just a machine gun - the bullets would just pass straight through (and if not coated in explosive material, the bullet probably wouldn't even ignite the hydrogen). The slow puncture by the bullet combined with the internal structure of the large ones being multiple envelopes, they wouldn't even lose that much lift, so they could just fly around, picking off the soldiers on the ground firing at them.

The major problem came with engine fires/etc. and structural failures, but I've also read that if an airship were built these days, it'd be inherently safer due to advancements in material sciences (both in terms of the envelopes to hold the lifting gas and what to make the heavier frame/gondola out of). The use of computers for control will also remove the cause of half the crashes of yesteryear - operator error (several crashed due to that, whilst others crashed due to design defects that were identified but the navy decided not to have fixed at the time they were identified, etc.)

Some recent potential developments for airship also include things like stirling engines - they can generate mechanical energy (which could then be hooked up to a generator for electricity) by a heat differential, and it'd be easy to create a heat differential on an airship. Just black-painted panels to collect the sunlight (plenty of that up high in the sky) and shielded radiators for cold (also very cold up high!)
 
Reminds me of the episode of the Simpsons when Grampa told of his younger days when millionaires would fly overhead in zepplins and throw gold coind down. Grampa would catch the coins in his tin bath.
 
Even though machine guns and simple rockets might fail to affect a well designed airship, especially one filled with helium, it seems likely that new specialised munitions would be quickly developed to bring these slow-moving targets down. A shell burst with plenty of shrapnel would puncture a multi-celled example, or maybe a continuous-rod device, which could cut an airship in half, giving two ships for the price of one;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous-rod_warhead
 
Germany had no reserves of helium, that's why her passenger airships used hydrogen.
Helium was by no means plentiful until recently. The city in Burrough's Barsoom books was called Helium because when he wrote it, 100 years ago, Helium was a very exotic substance.
The Zeppelin was no longer used for bombing when the proximity fuse was brought into service, or the gas bags would have been quickly shredded.
 
Helium is one of the few elements which is actually running out, since it escapes from the top of the atmosphere after release.

If we ever get a sky full of airships, each filled with helium, we might need to import it from Uranus or somewhere, since it remains the second most common element in the universe outside of Earth.
 
We may eventually find a way to manufacture it. The big problem is to do it without making it radioactive.
 
eburacum said:
Even though machine guns and simple rockets might fail to affect a well designed airship, especially one filled with helium, it seems likely that new specialised munitions would be quickly developed to bring these slow-moving targets down. A shell burst with plenty of shrapnel would puncture a multi-celled example, or maybe a continuous-rod device, which could cut an airship in half, giving two ships for the price of one;

I can't really see either being effective - shrapnel just makes small holes at best, and a CR would be too small. I think the best approach would be to hit the payload/engines.
 
The British found that incendiary bullets were effective against airships. They fitted aircraft with Lewis guns-for some reason incendiary bullets were unsuited to synchronized guns, so they were wing mounted.

Some 'balloon busters' carried four guns.

Destroying teathered observation balloons was important, they spotted artillery fire. These balloons were heavily defended with AA guns, and destroying one was counted the same as downing an enemy aircraft.
 
An often overlooked bit of airship legend is the spate of reported giant mystery airships at the end of the 1800s and early 1900s. Perhaps the most notable was the incident at Aurora,TX,where a crash left a dead aeronaut, who was buried in the local cemetery.

Simplest explanation is that the story was a 'humbug' a bit of spectacular and difficult to fact check false news printed to boost circulation, or to pass some time on a slow news day(or both). Also, the presence of a gravestone with no grave ignites suspicion.

Jules Verne's tales of the aerial brigand Robur and his "Albatros" machine(peace through bombardment!) may have inspired the whole thing, but.....
 
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