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I love vintage images, especially victorian ladies. I like seeing how they wore their hair etc. This means that I have looked at quite a few photos from that time and saved some for later use as avatars [maybe].
Anyway, the other day an article in the Daily Schmail caught my eye about victorian prostitutes. Very nice photos by the way and some quite natural.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... 1890s.html
I also read what I read every day that we are all too fat nowadays and will all die because of it and the NHS won't treat those nasty fatties any longer and being chubby is possibly the worst sin there is.
And somehow for the first time I put these two together and noted that most of these victorian ladies are for today's [official] standards overweight. They have hips and chunky thighs and are all quite well rounded. No not fat but if they were weighed by modern GP's they'd be told to loose some weight.
Now, I tried to find some other pictures of more victorian ladies but they are all over and I am not feeling too well today to do all that work. Needless to say that a lot of them have a hefty midrift, only squeezed of course by a corset, which somehow makes people think they are slimmer than they actually were.
Basically I found that age and chubbiness is almost exactly reflected by those ladies from over 100 years ago as it is in modern women. The younger are slimmer than the middle aged.
Then I'll go back to the obvious that is always cited, the Rubenesque ladies, painted even earlier. Their bellies lying happily on their big white thighs and I wonder if thin, slim, anorexics were always the minorities in history [unless they were starving].
I just googled "photos of victorian ladies" and after looking at some, I happened to see a few shots of 'modern' women amongst them [models or singers] and they suddenly looked unreal compared to the victorians. They looked positively freaky actually.
So what am I trying to say and why is this in conspiracy?
I say that apart from a few really morbidly obese freaks, which happen to exist thanks to access to very high calorie and fatty foods, the majority of women...even if they are slightly chubby...are quite normal.
I am saying that being thin is actually the unnatural state to be. It seems that throughout history women were on the "soft" side. I am on the "soft" side, being a size 12 and only 5f2" tall. I don't look anorexic but I don't look fat either. Yet my GP told me that I "NEED TO LOOSE WEIGHT". Even though I've been like this since my teens and have never gone any bigger. The GP can just go and make love to herself!
It is a conspiracy in my opinion because not only can the government pass strange bills using obesity but it can order us around, tell us what to eat, exercise more, buy vitamins etc etc, which all leads to making more money. I don't think for one moment that they are interested in our well being.
I know that we all think that being lean will make us live longer, but where is the actual evidence? I know a lot of overweight/chubby/soft people who lived beyond their 80's, which to me is quite old. And I know of people who died early, who were thin and sporty.
So, were women always "soft" and is this the first age of mean, lean, stick women, and is the word obese misused for a figure that has always existed; in order to make money?
Anyway, the other day an article in the Daily Schmail caught my eye about victorian prostitutes. Very nice photos by the way and some quite natural.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... 1890s.html
I also read what I read every day that we are all too fat nowadays and will all die because of it and the NHS won't treat those nasty fatties any longer and being chubby is possibly the worst sin there is.
And somehow for the first time I put these two together and noted that most of these victorian ladies are for today's [official] standards overweight. They have hips and chunky thighs and are all quite well rounded. No not fat but if they were weighed by modern GP's they'd be told to loose some weight.
Now, I tried to find some other pictures of more victorian ladies but they are all over and I am not feeling too well today to do all that work. Needless to say that a lot of them have a hefty midrift, only squeezed of course by a corset, which somehow makes people think they are slimmer than they actually were.
Basically I found that age and chubbiness is almost exactly reflected by those ladies from over 100 years ago as it is in modern women. The younger are slimmer than the middle aged.
Then I'll go back to the obvious that is always cited, the Rubenesque ladies, painted even earlier. Their bellies lying happily on their big white thighs and I wonder if thin, slim, anorexics were always the minorities in history [unless they were starving].
I just googled "photos of victorian ladies" and after looking at some, I happened to see a few shots of 'modern' women amongst them [models or singers] and they suddenly looked unreal compared to the victorians. They looked positively freaky actually.
So what am I trying to say and why is this in conspiracy?
I say that apart from a few really morbidly obese freaks, which happen to exist thanks to access to very high calorie and fatty foods, the majority of women...even if they are slightly chubby...are quite normal.
I am saying that being thin is actually the unnatural state to be. It seems that throughout history women were on the "soft" side. I am on the "soft" side, being a size 12 and only 5f2" tall. I don't look anorexic but I don't look fat either. Yet my GP told me that I "NEED TO LOOSE WEIGHT". Even though I've been like this since my teens and have never gone any bigger. The GP can just go and make love to herself!
It is a conspiracy in my opinion because not only can the government pass strange bills using obesity but it can order us around, tell us what to eat, exercise more, buy vitamins etc etc, which all leads to making more money. I don't think for one moment that they are interested in our well being.
I know that we all think that being lean will make us live longer, but where is the actual evidence? I know a lot of overweight/chubby/soft people who lived beyond their 80's, which to me is quite old. And I know of people who died early, who were thin and sporty.
So, were women always "soft" and is this the first age of mean, lean, stick women, and is the word obese misused for a figure that has always existed; in order to make money?