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Arty Farty Had A Party

milk23

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I distinctly remember making up the rhyme 'arty farty'. My pals and I were very little and makng our way to my friends garage where we used to hang out and we all chucked in a line

if you don't know it it goes-

Arty farty had a party
all the farts were there
then tooty fruity did a beauty
and they all went out for air

Since then I have heard other people say they made it up. It's a bit like the one-

spider man spider man lost his knickers in a frying pan
can he swing can ee 'eck, if he does he'll break his neck.

is this like the monkeys using stones to break open coconuts at the same time as other monkeys elsewhere suddenly realising the same stone/ coconut ombination equals 'tastey tea' ?

This probably isn't an urban legend but is along the lines i guess
 
There were lots of "Jesus Christ, Superstar..." ditties when I was a lad. The only one I fully remember is quite bizarre.

Jesus Christ, Superstar, came down from heaven on a Yamaha,
Pulled a skid, killed a kid, floated back to heaven on a dustbin lid.
 
Jingle Bells, Batman smells, Robin's flown away,
The Batmobile has lost its wheels,
And the Joker's eating hay.

(From the era of the camp TV series, though my Scottish SiL insists it was;

Jingle Bells, Batman smells, Robin's flown away,
The Batmobile has lost its wheels,
And flown into the Tay)
 
And in West Yorkshire (1970's) we sang:-

Jingle Bells, Batman smells, Robin's flown away,
The Batmobile has lost its wheels,
On the M1 motorway.
 
No, no, Timble, it's:

Jingle bells, Batman smells, Robin laid an egg,
Batmobile lost a wheel and Catwoman got away.

(Although my little sister insists that it's Joker who got away.)

My memory is unusually muddled on this point and almost everything analytic I've ever read on childhood oral traditions was from the library, not from my shelves, so I can't check, but I believe I have seen more than one folklorist (one of whom was Iona Opie in an interview, I think) state that their sources will insist that a well-documented and ancient rhyme was the invention of someone in the neighborhood. In most cases this is probably because we assume that the first person we hear say it is the first person who ever said it, but there may be a brain-development factor. At a certain age, we're sucking up new data like a vacuum cleaner without tracking or noticing that we're doing so, and it can be hard to separate invention from memory. If you don't have the concept of "variation" yet, introducing a minor change may feel like invention, also - especially in the case of parody using established forms.

That said, my friend and I did in fact invent a new verse for the Jeep Song, but it didn't follow the established rhyme pattern and never caught on. I doubt I could remember it now, though I still sometimes sing the original song, as follows:

Oh, I was born one night one morn
When the whistle went toot toot (toot toot!).
You can fry an egg or bake a cake
When the mudpies are in bloom.
Does six plus six make nine?
Does ice grow on a vine?
Is old black Joe an Eskimo
In the good ole summertime?

Oh, loop-de-loop in the noodle soup
Won't you give yourself a shine?
I'm guilty, judge: I stole the fudge.
Three cheers for Auld Lang Syne!
I cannot tell a lie:
I hawked an apple pie.
It's on a tree beneath the sea
Above the bright moonshine.


Oh, Easter eggs don't wash their legs;
Their children will have ducks (quack quack).
I'd rather buy a lemon pie
For forty-seven bucks.
Way down in Barcelonio
I hopped into a phonio
But that was all balonio.
Paderewski, blow your horn! (Toot toot!)
 
milk23 said:
I distinctly remember making up the rhyme 'arty farty'. My pals and I were very little and makng our way to my friends garage where we used to hang out and we all chucked in a line

if you don't know it it goes-

Arty farty had a party
all the farts were there
then tooty fruity did a beauty
and they all went out for air

Since then I have heard other people say they made it up.

Dunno how old you are or where you spent your childhood, but back in the early eighties we used the same rhyme, only the last line was "And they all let off from there." The spread of these rhymes follow the same lines of comminication as urban myths, I suspect.
 
There's a really funny one that I've only heard from a friend's friend when I was a kid:

Tarzan swings, Tarzan falls,
Jane grabs Tarzan by his balls.
That's why he goes, "Ahhh, ahhh-ah-ah!"

That last bit is supposed to be the famous Tarzan call from movies. I've always felt there should be a database for children's rhymes and jumprope songs and whatnot.
 
The time I am refering to would have been 79-80 ish

PeniG that is a great song I am gonna learn it and bust right into it next time I go camping
 
milk23 said:
The time I am refering to would have been 79-80 ish

Yeah, I must have heard it about then. There must have been a lot of it about.
 
quite right. As i remember they were actually going to call the eighties the 'fartys' as there was literally that much of it about
 
We always said "joker" in the Batman rhyme when I was a kid in the late 80s/early 90s.

I went to a chinese restaurant,
To buy a loaf of bread, bread, bread,
He wrapped it up in a £5 note,
And this is what he said, said, said,
My name is Eina, Whina, come from China,
Do us a favour! Push off!
Roly poly, up bam boly,
Curly wurly whiskers, brown bread,
Have you ever seen my fathers bald head,
Sitting in his armchair, half dead,
Roly poly, up bam boly,
Cuuurly wurly whiskerrrrrs!
BROWN BREAD!

With appropriate miming actions. :lol: There may have been more, but it was a long time a go and my memory does not serve me well!
 
celticrose said:
We always said "joker" in the Batman rhyme when I was a kid in the late 80s/early 90s.

I went to a chinese restaurant,
To buy a loaf of bread, bread, bread,
He wrapped it up in a £5 note,
And this is what he said, said, said,
My name is Eina, Whina, come from China,
Do us a favour! Push off!
Roly poly, up bam boly,
Curly wurly whiskers, brown bread,
Have you ever seen my fathers bald head,
Sitting in his armchair, half dead,
Roly poly, up bam boly,
Cuuurly wurly whiskerrrrrs!
BROWN BREAD!

With appropriate miming actions. :lol: There may have been more, but it was a long time a go and my memory does not serve me well!

Now we had:

I went to a Chinese Restaurant,
To buy a loaf of bread, bread, bread,
He wrapped it in a £5 note,
And this is what he said, said, said,
My....... name..... is,
Elvis Presley,
Girls are sexy,
Sitting in the back seat,
Drinking Pepsi,
And that is what my,
Name is.


And further to another post,

Jesus Christ,
Superstar,
Came round the corner on a Yamaha,
Did a skid,
Killed a kid,
Caught his balls on a dustbin lid.

And
Rule Britannia,
Three monkeys up a stick,
One fell down and paralysed his.....

Dickie was a bulldog
Sitting in the grass,
Along came a bumblebee,
And stung him up the........

Ask know questions,
Tell know lies,
Ever seen a copper doing up his......

Flies are bad bugs are worse,
And that's the end of my Chinese verse.

All from about 1981 - 1986
 
Fuzzy Wuzzy was a bear,
Fuzzy Wuzzy had no hair,
Fuzzy Wuzzy wasn't fuzzy was 'e?



Although Mrs Carlos always says "No, Fuzzy Wuzzy was a woman!" and then creases up. Any ideas what that's all about?
 
CarlosTheDJ said:
Although Mrs Carlos always says "No, Fuzzy Wuzzy was a woman!" and then creases up. Any ideas what that's all about?

I think it's a line from See no evil, hear no evil, a Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor comedy. I can't recall well, but something to do with one of them being deaf and lip-reading the other one who is blind.

"Fuzzy Wuzzy was a woman?" is the mistranslation he makes.

Open to correction, can't be bothered to google.

edit: Correction, a policeman says "Was there or was there not a woman" to which Gene Wilder (lip-reading) answers: "Are you serious... Fuzzy Wuzzy was a woman?"

As featured in this odd You-tube mix of that film and Highlander:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjKK0ZapUCI
 
Oh my old man's a dustman
He wears a dustman's hat
He bought 10,000 tickets to see a football match
Fatty passed to Skinny
Skinny passed it back
Fatty took a rotten shot and knocked the goalie flat
Singing Oompa, oompa, stick it up yer joompa (jumper)
Rule Britannia
Marmalade and Jam
We threw sausages at our old man
They put him on a stretcher
They put him on a bed
They rubbed his belly with a bowlful of jelly
But the poor old soul was dead.
DEAD!

-----
This seems to be a combination of all sorts of half-remembered songs all spliced together. I first heard it in some kind of summer camp sometime in the early-to-mid 90s.
 
theyithian said:
CarlosTheDJ said:
Although Mrs Carlos always says "No, Fuzzy Wuzzy was a woman!" and then creases up. Any ideas what that's all about?

I think it's a line from See no evil, hear no evil, a Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor comedy. I can't recall well, but something to do with one of them being deaf and lip-reading the other one who is blind.

"Fuzzy Wuzzy was a woman?" is the mistranslation he makes.

Open to correction, can't be bothered to google.

edit: Correction, a policeman says "Was there or was there not a woman" to which Gene Wilder (lip-reading) answers: "Are you serious... Fuzzy Wuzzy was a woman?"

As featured in this odd You-tube mix of that film and Highlander:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjKK0ZapUCI

She's a big Gene Wilder fan...that explains it all, cheers!
 
I'm afraid I knew the Arty Farty one back in the early 70s but it went:

Arty Farty had a party
Everyone was there
Tutti Frutti did a beauty
Everyone gasped for air

And I knew the Jesus Christ, Superstar one first about a Celtic player:

Dixie Deans
Superstar
Looks like a lassie
And he wears a bra
 
Dr_Baltar said:
And I knew the Jesus Christ, Superstar one first about a Celtic player:

Dixie Deans
Superstar
Looks like a lassie
And he wears a bra

Surely it was:

Georgie Best,
Superstar,
He walks like a woman,
And he wears a bra!
 
MsPix said:
Surely it was:

Georgie Best,
Superstar,
He walks like a woman,
And he wears a bra!

Undoubtedly it was, but as Bestie didn't make it north of the border until much later in his career, we had to make do with our own, home-grown abuse ;)
 
emmbob said:
Oh my old man's a dustman
He wears a dustman's hat
He bought 10,000 tickets to see a football match
Fatty passed to Skinny
Skinny passed it back
Fatty took a rotten shot and knocked the goalie flat
Singing Oompa, oompa, stick it up yer joompa (jumper)
Rule Britannia
Marmalade and Jam
We threw sausages at our old man
They put him on a stretcher
They put him on a bed
They rubbed his belly with a bowlful of jelly
But the poor old soul was dead.
DEAD!

-----
This seems to be a combination of all sorts of half-remembered songs all spliced together. I first heard it in some kind of summer camp sometime in the early-to-mid 90s.

I could swear there's a Kingston Trio song that went something like that...
 
Well, Kingston Trio was a folk group and might well have covered a version. I have an Irish Rovers album (The Unicorn) with "My Old Man's a Dustman," but the lyrics are different:

My old man's a dustman, he wears a dustman's hat,
He wears gorblimey trousers and he lives in a council flat.

And quite a bit more, with verses and chorus and structure. It's hard to tell where, in the folk tradition, a new song emerges from the different versions. Kids on the playground are apt to throw together bits of various familiar songs when memory fails, especially if the song is tied to a game and can't be allowed to lag; so a recorded version of a traditional song may trigger the reintroduction of lyrics into the folk tradition in an entirely different context.
 
PeniG said:
Well, Kingston Trio was a folk group and might well have covered a version. I have an Irish Rovers album (The Unicorn) with "My Old Man's a Dustman," but the lyrics are different:

My old man's a dustman, he wears a dustman's hat,
He wears gorblimey trousers and he lives in a council flat.

That's the original song, it was very popular (made number one in 1960) in Britain in the early 60s, performed by Lonnie Donegan. Much adapted and parodied, as in the playground rhyme earlier.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7GeZ3Ym ... re=related
 
Back in my Northern Kentucky grade school, third or fourth grade (1949-1951), I made up a joke and shared it with a couple of classmates.

A week later I heard that very same joke from my cousin (who was eight or nine months older than me but in the same grade). He lived on the extreme west side of Cincinnati, Ohio.
 
these are all great. Good times being little and sharing these nonsense songs.
My two friends came up with one that I am certain is peculiar to them. It is however thoroughly filthy and littered with terrible words. So now that I have whet yer whistles I won't post it
 
PeniG said:
Well, Kingston Trio was a folk group and might well have covered a version. I have an Irish Rovers album (The Unicorn) with "My Old Man's a Dustman," but the lyrics are different:

My old man's a dustman, he wears a dustman's hat,
He wears gorblimey trousers and he lives in a council flat.

And quite a bit more, with verses and chorus and structure. It's hard to tell where, in the folk tradition, a new song emerges from the different versions. Kids on the playground are apt to throw together bits of various familiar songs when memory fails, especially if the song is tied to a game and can't be allowed to lag; so a recorded version of a traditional song may trigger the reintroduction of lyrics into the folk tradition in an entirely different context.

Actually I bet that Irish Rover version is what I'm thinking of. My parents had Kingston Trio and at least one Irish Rover album (with the unicorn song) they played a lot when I was a little kid, and that's where I'm remembering this from.
 
Mister_Awesome said:
PeniG said:
Well, Kingston Trio was a folk group and might well have covered a version. I have an Irish Rovers album (The Unicorn) with "My Old Man's a Dustman," but the lyrics are different:

My old man's a dustman, he wears a dustman's hat,
He wears gorblimey trousers and he lives in a council flat.

And quite a bit more, with verses and chorus and structure. It's hard to tell where, in the folk tradition, a new song emerges from the different versions. Kids on the playground are apt to throw together bits of various familiar songs when memory fails, especially if the song is tied to a game and can't be allowed to lag; so a recorded version of a traditional song may trigger the reintroduction of lyrics into the folk tradition in an entirely different context.

Actually I bet that Irish Rover version is what I'm thinking of. My parents had Kingston Trio and at least one Irish Rover album (with the unicorn song) they played a lot when I was a little kid, and that's where I'm remembering this from.

Are you sure it wasn't Lonnie Dongan the "King of Skiffle" you're thinking of?

MY OLD MAN'S A DUSTMAN - 31/03/1960
4 weeks at #1 - 13 weeks on chart

Now here's a little story
To tell it is a must
About an unsung hero
That moves away your dust.

Some people make a fortune,
Others earn a mint;
My old man don't earn much:
In fact he's flippin' skint.

Oh, my old man's a dustman,
He wears a dustman's hat,
He wears cor-blimey trousers
And he lives in a council flat.
He looks a proper nana
In his great big hobnail boots,
He's got such a job to pull them up
That he calls 'em daisy roots.

Some folks give tips at Christmas,
And some of them forget,
So when he picks their bins up
He spills some on the step.
Now one old man got nasty
And to the council wrote,
Next time my old man went round there
He punched him up the throat.

Oh my old man's a dustman,
He wears a dustman's hat,
He wears cor-blimey trousers
And he lives in a council flat.

Lonnie: I say, I say, Les.
Les: Yes?
Lonnie: I, er, I found a police dog in my dustbin.
Les: Well how do you do know he's a police dog?
Lonnie: He had a policeman with him.

Though my old man's a dustman,
He's got an 'eart of gold,
He got married recently
Though he's eighty-six years old.
We said "'Ere, hang on, Dad,
You're getting past your prime";
He said "Well, when you get to my age
It helps to pass the time."

Oi! My old man's a dustman,
He wears a dustman's hat,
He wears cor-blimey trousers
And he lives in a council flat.

Lonnie: I say, I say, I say!
Les: Huh?
Lonnie: My dustbin's full of lilies.
Les: Well throw 'em away then!
Lonnie: I can't: Lily's wearing them.

Now one day whilst in a hurry,
He missed a lady's bin:
He hadn't gone but a few yards
When she chased after him.
"What game do you think you're playing?"
She cried right from the 'eart,
"You've missed me, am I too late?"
"No, jump up on the cart!"

Oi! My old man's a dustman,
He wears a dustman's hat,
He wears cor-blimey trousers
And he lives in a council flat.

Lonnie: I say, I say, I say!
Les: Not you again!
Lonnie: My dustbin's absolutely full with toadstools.
Les: How do you know it's full?
Lonnie: 'Cos there's not mushroom inside.

He found a tiger's head one day
Nailed to a piece of wood
The tiger looked like miserable,
But I suppose he should.
Just then from out a window
A voice began to wail,
It said "Oi! Where's me tiger's head?"
"Four foot from his tail."

Oh my old man's a dustman,
He wears a dustman's hat,
He wears cor-blimey trousers
And he lives in a council flat.
Next time you see a dustman
Looking all pale and sad,
Don't kick him in the dustbin:
It might be my old dad.
 
ArthurASCII said:
Mister_Awesome said:
PeniG said:
Well, Kingston Trio was a folk group and might well have covered a version. I have an Irish Rovers album (The Unicorn) with "My Old Man's a Dustman," but the lyrics are different:

My old man's a dustman, he wears a dustman's hat,
He wears gorblimey trousers and he lives in a council flat.

And quite a bit more, with verses and chorus and structure. It's hard to tell where, in the folk tradition, a new song emerges from the different versions. Kids on the playground are apt to throw together bits of various familiar songs when memory fails, especially if the song is tied to a game and can't be allowed to lag; so a recorded version of a traditional song may trigger the reintroduction of lyrics into the folk tradition in an entirely different context.

Actually I bet that Irish Rover version is what I'm thinking of. My parents had Kingston Trio and at least one Irish Rover album (with the unicorn song) they played a lot when I was a little kid, and that's where I'm remembering this from.

Are you sure it wasn't Lonnie Dongan the "King of Skiffle" you're thinking of?

I don't think so, just based on the fact that I don't think my parents had a record from him. :)
 
Fuzzy, Wuzzy

With regards to the Fuzzy Wuzzy poem/ditty

Fuzzy Wuzzy was a bear
Fuzzy Wuzzy had no hair
Fuzzy Wuzzy wasn't really fuzzy was he?

was written in a poetry book from the 1960's called My Memories "a collection of wartime poems " written by Doris Winifred B...s (last name withheld due to relational reasons) (1931- 1988) and I still have a copy of this book which is now out of print and was only of a small distribution (about 500 I think) as it was a private publication.

These were a collection of poems and ditties written by an evacuee in wartime England (Bedford) and this particular poem was a reference to the last English dancing bear (like Simon Smith and his amazing dancing bear from Alan Price fame) touring Bedfordshire during the 1940's which due to new animal laws shaved "Fuzzy Wuzzy" to make the animal look like a monkey? or something else, so the bear's owner would not get prosecuted.

(Or it could be a reference to the police as "fuzz" and "bear" are both references to police officers lol.)

Maybe one of the writers of the 1980's film "See no evil" was from Bedford or may even have bought the book.
 
I hate to disillusion you (well, okay, I don't hate it that much), but I've known about Fuzzy Wuzzy my entire life (born 1961 in Texas). My parents recited it and I'm pretty sure they didn't have access to such a small print-run, English-published book.

Wikipedia credits Al Hoffman, Milton Drake, and Jerry Livingston with a song containing this rhyme as the chorus in 1944; but it would shock me not at all to learn that they borrowed it from folk tradition.

And I know you're joking, but the term "fuzz" for police is late 60s hippy slang and the term "bear" is mid-70s trucker slang (dereived from Smokey Bear and the supposed resemblance between the modern highway patrol cap and the traditional park ranger cap worn by the fire-prevention mascot), both quickly spread out of their originating cliques by pop culture references.
 
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