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ASMR: The 'Unnamed Feeling'

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Interesting article by Tom Stafford for BBC Future:

Millions of people say they are thrilled by watching long, dull videos of folding towels or running hair dryers. Why? It could be a curious condition that didn’t officially exist until 2010.
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It's a tightening at the back of the throat, or a tingling around your scalp, a chill that comes over you when you pay close attention to something, such as a person whispering instructions. It's called the autonomous sensory meridian response, and until 2010 it didn't exist.

I first heard about the autonomous sensory meridian response (ASMR) from British journalist Rhodri Marsden. He had become mesmerised by intentionally boring videos he found on YouTube, things like people explaining how to fold towels, running hair dryers or role-playing interactions with dentists. Millions of people were watching the videos, reportedly for the pleasurable sensations they generated.

Rhodri asked my opinion as a psychologist. Could this be a real thing? "Sure," I said. If people say they feel it, it has to be real – in some form or another. The question is what kind of real is it? Are all these people experiencing the same thing? Is it learnt, or something we are born with? How common is it? Those are the kind of questions we'd ask as psychologists. But perhaps the most interesting thing about the ASMR is what happened to it before psychologists put their minds to it.

Presumably the feeling has existed for all of human history. Each person discovered the experience, treasured it or ignored it, and kept the feeling to themselves. That there wasn't a name for it until 2010 suggests that most people who had this feeling hadn't talked about it. It's amazing that it got this far without getting a name. In scientific terms, it didn't exist.

But then, of course, along came the 21st Century and, like they say, even if you're one in a million there's thousands of you on the internet. Now there's websites, discussion forums, even a Wikipedia page. And a name. In fact, many names – “Attention Induced Euphoria”, “braingasm”, or “the unnamed feeling” are all competing labels that haven't caught on in the same way as ASMR.

Myth becomes fact

This points to something curious about the way we create knowledge, illustrated by a wonderful story about the scientific history of meteorites. Rocks falling from the sky were considered myths in Europe for centuries, even though stories of their fiery trails across the sky, and actual rocks, were widely, if irregularly reported. The problem was that the kind of people who saw meteorites and subsequently collected them tended to be the kind of people who worked outdoors – that is, farmers and other country folk. You can imagine the scholarly minds of the Renaissance didn't weigh too heavily on their testimonies. Then in 1794 a meteorite shower fell on the town of Siena in Italy. Not only was Siena a town, it was a town with a university. The testimony of the townsfolk, including well-to-do church ministers and tourists, was impossible to deny and the reports written up in scholarly publications. Siena played a crucial part in the process of myth becoming fact.

Where early science required authorities and written evidence to turn myth into fact, ASRM shows that something more democratic can achieve the same result. Discussion among ordinary people on the internet provided validation that the unnamed feeling was a shared one. Suddenly many individuals who might have thought of themselves as unusual were able to recognise that they were a single group, with a common experience.

More at link:
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2013050 ... u-pleasure
 
Sounds like Andy Warhol was onto something after all. Deliberately boring films, i.e. shown in a cinema, have been known to appear every once in a while, so maybe this is the start of a new movement of soothing by boredom, no surprises, nothing to shock, just safe and predictable yawnfests.
 
We're sorry but this site is not accessible from the UK as it is part of our international service and is not funded by the licence fee. It is run commercially by BBC Worldwide, a wholly-owned subsidiary of the BBC, the profits made from it go back to BBC programme-makers to help fund great new BBC programmes. You can find out more about BBC Worldwide and its digital activities at www.bbcworldwide.com.

Wow. Another reason not to play them anything then.
 
TangletwigsDeux said:
We're sorry but this site is not accessible from the UK as it is part of our international service and is not funded by the licence fee. It is run commercially by BBC Worldwide, a wholly-owned subsidiary of the BBC, the profits made from it go back to BBC programme-makers to help fund great new BBC programmes. You can find out more about BBC Worldwide and its digital activities at www.bbcworldwide.com.

Wow. Another reason not to play them anything then.

Not funded by the licence fees - wonder how they fund it? Crap that UK citizens don't get to see it. Hmph.
 
They fund it from sales, of programmes to other countries and the retail sales of programmes on dvd and tie-in products.
 
Mythopoeika said:
TangletwigsDeux said:
We're sorry but this site is not accessible from the UK as it is part of our international service and is not funded by the licence fee. It is run commercially by BBC Worldwide, a wholly-owned subsidiary of the BBC, the profits made from it go back to BBC programme-makers to help fund great new BBC programmes. You can find out more about BBC Worldwide and its digital activities at www.bbcworldwide.com.

Wow. Another reason not to play them anything then.

Not funded by the licence fees - wonder how they fund it? Crap that UK citizens don't get to see it. Hmph.

Wow, I had no idea that link couldn't be accessed from the UK. There are things I can't see on BBC websites, not being a British taxpayer and all, which is understandable - but that seems nuts! :roll:

Anyway, here is another link to the same article from Mindhacks, Tom Stafford's own website:
http://mindhacks.com/2013/05/13/the-unn ... amed-asmr/
 
gncxx said:
Sounds like Andy Warhol was onto something after all. Deliberately boring films, i.e. shown in a cinema, have been known to appear every once in a while, so maybe this is the start of a new movement of soothing by boredom, no surprises, nothing to shock, just safe and predictable yawnfests.

That, and the whole thread actually, have reminded me of something someone once said about porn movies (unfortunately it's not reminded me quite enough to say what it was or who said it).

Anyway, it was basically something to do with the popularity of porn being because it was so utterly boring and unbelievably predictable, rather than anything to do with its content. I wonder if someone's going to be able to prove that watching someone fold a towel for ages pushes exactly the same buttons as watching some Essex bird with a spotty backside drop her contact lenses in the shower.

I wouldn't be particularly surprised - I'm one of those blokes who finds porn incredibly tedious; don't get me wrong, I've tried it - but I've tried cigarettes and pop-tarts and don't see the point in them either.
 
I think the wonderful Joan Bakewell said something along those lines when she did a doc about porn a few years ago. That, after a time, porn is rather boring & mechanical.
 
gncxx said:
I've tried cigarettes and pop-tarts and don't see the point in them either.

Porn, fags and pop tarts - that's one hell of a breakfast.

I wonder if ASMR is related to the pretty left field hobbies some people have - such as electricity pylon recording and 'spotting' Co-Operative supermarket branches.
 
gncxx said:
Sounds like Andy Warhol was onto something after all. Deliberately boring films, i.e. shown in a cinema, have been known to appear every once in a while, so maybe this is the start of a new movement of soothing by boredom, no surprises, nothing to shock, just safe and predictable yawnfests.

Maybe not such a new movement.

I started rereading William Goldman's Adventures in the Screen Trade in the garden this afternoon. And what does he mention in the first page of chapter one (during a very potted history of the earliest years of the movie industry)?:

...one early hit consisted in it's entirety of nothing but a horse eating hay.
 
special_farces said:
I wonder if ASMR is related to the pretty left field hobbies some people have - such as electricity pylon recording and 'spotting' Co-Operative supermarket branches.

The sensation of ASMR is the weird, creeping, tingling feeling you get in your scalp and spine when someone gives you a headrub. You can induce the sensation but it's a bit like trying to tickle yourself. The videos are an attempt to find a substitute for human touch.

Lots of people find they are triggered by watching someone describe how to do something in a slow and deliberate manner. The towel folding is an example of this.

There is no intention to 'appreciate' boring videos. The thing that is being sought is the deliberate instruction, the hushed voice, the focus on a very specific action.
 
Millions of people say they are thrilled by watching long, dull videos of folding towels or running hair dryers.

I was idly wondering if the thrill of observing dull videos might be related to positive feelings experienced while pursuing dull hobbies.

And not just videos or films. I knew someone who became a bit obsessed with a Christmas themed screensaver. The screensaver showed a cartoon living room with Christmas decorations and a roaring fire. Nothing would happen for many minutes, then some random little animation would pop up such as Santas feet appearing briefly in the fireplace. My friend would watch intently for some time, only closing it if a manager came in. Working for the civil service has some perks...
 
labyrinth said:
special_farces said:
The sensation of ASMR is the weird, creeping, tingling feeling you get in your scalp and spine when someone gives you a headrub. You can induce the sensation but it's a bit like trying to tickle yourself. The videos are an attempt to find a substitute for human touch.

Lots of people find they are triggered by watching someone describe how to do something in a slow and deliberate manner. The towel folding is an example of this.

There is no intention to 'appreciate' boring videos. The thing that is being sought is the deliberate instruction, the hushed voice, the focus on a very specific action.

I would agree with this statement, given one exception;
I wouldn't describe the sensation as weird. For me, it is a very relaxing feeling, similar to feeling how heavy your eyes feel just before a Sunday afternoon snooze. The main trigger for me is softly-spoken foriegn accents, but everyone who experiences ASMR will say their triggers are different.

I only discovered that there was a community and actually a name for this last October!

There are well over 100 ASMR-tists on Youtube, and I've subscribed to quite a few, and have got to know a few as well. The ASMR community is very supportive of each other, and a lot of them are friends on Facebook with their (I suppose our, as I feel part of this), own pages.

One thing that ASMR-tists agree on, is that it is difficult to explain the feelings ASMR produces to those who don't experience it.
My advice to anyone reading this, and maybe be curious about ASMR, and who may have felt they have had tingles themselves, is to type ASMR into Youtube and explore some of the channels.
 
Ok, while I knew the sensation, I never knew there was a word for it.

I am just wondering - is this a male thing or do women get it too? Most of the YT videos seem to be of nice looking young ladies - though it is a distinctively non sexual experience. Thoughts anyone?

Later edit - judging by some of the comments on YT - it seems to be rather sexual for some. Not for my though - whatever.
 
The sensation is strongly related to the 'frisson' some (most?) people experience occasionally while listening to a certain piece of music or reading a certain literary passage. Have you ever heard someone say something like 'I love this song/poem so much it gives me chills'? It's like that. The description above re: that pleasantly relaxed and sleepy feeling just before a nap is also accurate in my experience.

The phenomenon of ASMR also seems to be related to synesthesia, since people who report experiencing one are somewhat more likely to report experiencing the other, and like most neurological and/or sensory qualia, there seems to be a spectrum: almost everyone has experienced mild or isolated incidents of it at some point in their lives, and personal experience runs the gamut from 'very slight and almost never' to 'extremely strong and very frequent'.

I personally find ASMR videos to be a fantastic sleep aid, since I suffer from insomnia, and I don't always want to deal with the 'hangover' effects of taking a sleeping pill- also I've always found white noise machines annoying. But the 'white noise' of someone talking about oil painting techniques or whatnot is boring enough not to distract while being calming enough to fall asleep to.
 
This reminds me of how I felt when reading "The Razor's Edge".

I had absolutely no interest in the book; in fact, I would have rather read anything else, but I tell you this: I couldn't put it down.

It was boring, petty, and uninteresting (give me non-fiction, if that's what you're after), but it thrilled me on a different level.

I wonder....
 
Zilch5 said:
Ok, while I knew the sensation, I never knew there was a word for it.

I am just wondering - is this a male thing or do women get it too? Most of the YT videos seem to be of nice looking young ladies - though it is a distinctively non sexual experience. Thoughts anyone?

Later edit - judging by some of the comments on YT - it seems to be rather sexual for some. Not for my though - whatever.

The amount of male ASMR-tists is rising all the time. The people who make the videos experience ASMR themselves, so I would say its 80-20 in favour of the female ASMR-tists, and I would say that its about the same going by the comments on Youtube.
I wouldn't rule it out that some people find ASMR sexual, but I would denounce a lot of the comments on Youtube as coming from trolls who have been known to make extremely derogortory statements, but I guess thats the anonimity of the internet unfortunately.
 
I think it's interesting that there also appears to be an opposite of ASMR that's just as strange and recent: Misophonia. Rather than certain soft, repetitive sounds being relaxing, some people find that those sounds set their teeth on edge. A commonly cited one is the sound of chewing. Not loud, open-mouthed, smacky eating… just polite, closed-mouth chewing. Impossible to ignore and gives the same feeling as nails on a chalkboard would to others.
 
Hi Solestri, I must admit I've never heard of Misophonia before, but I suppose ASMR would have a polar opposite!
Its interesting that you mention chewing as an example of Misophonia, as its a trigger for some people who experience ASMR, particularly gum-chewing as part of whispering videos.
Anyway, heres the wiki link for ASMR, and its good to see that both are being looked at scientifically.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous ... n_response
 
Simon said:
There are well over 100 ASMR-tists on Youtube, and I've subscribed to quite a few, and have got to know a few as well. The ASMR community is very supportive of each other, and a lot of them are friends on Facebook with their (I suppose our, as I feel part of this), own pages.
Yes, I've been exploring the ASMR community on YouTube for about a year now and some of the people are so dedicated it's astounding. One of my favourites is Gentle Whispering. She does really good quality videos and often does two versions - one in English and another in her native Russian! Generally I don't go for the ones which feature the person's face a lot - I prefer unboxing, art or some other activity where you just see the person's hands and can hear the sounds of the different materials. There's a channel called Sound Sculptures which is particularly good.
 
Hi Fortean Times, this is a thank you post for your recent article on ASMR.

On Wednesday last week I visited my local bakery at lunchtime, I picked up a sandwich and a coke and took it to the counter, the shop was quiet and the lady behind the counter moved slowly, in no hurry to serve me, rather than be annoyed I found her movements pleasing and I felt relaxed. She took the sandwich and drink, scanned them to the till and told me the total cost, her voice was low and calm. I paid and she asked whether I needed a bag for the sandwich, I said yes, she picked up the sandwich and slid it into a paper bag, gently folding it over at the end, the noise of the paper started it...

At the top of my head the tingles started, they moved out and down along my neck spreading out in waves. They reached my stomach and moved back up to my arms, pulsing down to my arms and reaching into my hands and fingers. Utter tranquillity washed over me, a deep feeling of unbridled joy, peace and happiness. I picked up my purchase and left the shop to walk back to my office. Throughout the 15 minute walk the feeling stayed with me, pulsing up and down my body, a lush tingle, like goosebumps moving beneath the skin.

As I got back to my desk the feeling started to fade, but I felt relaxed and intensely happy, this stayed with me throughout the rest of the day.

I've had "the feeling" since childhood, my first memories of it are from my mum reading to me in bed, or when she rubbed my back whilst I watched TV. It would start at the top of my head then spread over my body, the pleasure would sometimes be so intense I'd almost go cross eyed with joy.

I'm 40 now, and I experience the feeling once of twice a month, always triggered by sounds, mostly a softly spoken voice or a soft sound, like that of folded paper bag. I work with a chap who has a lovely slow deep voice, when he's calm and relaxed and starts talking it'll trigger it... I've never told him, I'm male too, he's Asian and fairly traditional, I'm not sure what he'd think about his voice triggering so much intense pleasure in my body!

Over the years I've discussed these feelings with a number of people, I came to learn by the looks of their faces that no one else seemed to experience sound in such ways. I stopped asking people, not because I felt ashamed or anything, just that I thought that it was something only I felt; maybe I was just "wired-up a bit different".

So, on Wednesday I get home, joy of joy the new FT is sitting on my doormat, I make a cup of tea, open the magazine and come across an article with a diagram of a brain that looks familiar, I read the article, it is genuinely life changing. I am not alone.

So, not only do I now know what "I have", I also know there are a fair number of us out there, some of them like me who's triggered by sounds, some by viewing mundane and repetitive tasks.

I also now know that there are people creating videos to induce the feeling; on Thursday at work I spent the day with headphones on, dribbling with joy at my desk.

So, thank you FT, thank you a lot, you've genuinely changed my world.

Of course on Thursday when I managed to tear myself away from listening to tingle inducing videos of women whispering, I checked the bbc and found a huge article on ASMR and the YouTube community. After 40 years of nothing, suddenly it's everywhere, how strange the world works.
 
How interesting, I'll try that!
Probably don't have the necessary ASMR brian set-up though.

I'm wondering if the effect would wear off with time, if it was being artificially induced rather than happening naturally.
 
Oh, yeah, I posted an article here on ASMR some time ago. Under "the nameless feeling" or something like that. Hmm, if the search function works better now, maybe I can actually find it. ;) I didn't know the magazine had done an article, as I'm too poor to buy it right now.

I don't have ASMR but it's interesting nonetheless.
 
Yes, we have a short thread on it here:

(stu edit - now merged)

I don't watch as many ASMR videos these days, but still keep up with a few of the really good creators on YouTube. Generally I prefer that there's a purpose to the activity, like wrapping a present, writing or creating something, rather than just random tapping etc. which you can find a lot of. Origami videos are often an inadvertent yet excellent source of ASMR! :)
 
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I'm not sure this phenomenon works on me, but I do find watching Bob Ross at work curiously restful.
I'm not particularly a fan of his painting style, but his videos are quite good.
 
I'm not sure this phenomenon works on me, but I do find watching Bob Ross at work curiously restful.
I'm not particularly a fan of his painting style, but his videos are quite good.

Oh, I was just going to mention Bob Ross! Yeah, I've heard that his show was one of the ways many people realized that soft voices gave them a tingly feeling. I didn't know his show was ever played in Britain.
They say he spoke softly because, after his experience as an army drill instructor, he never wanted to raise his voice ever again. Me, I just like his "happy trees" and the re-assurance that anything you wanted to put in the painting was a-okay. :D
 
Oh, I was just going to mention Bob Ross! Yeah, I've heard that his show was one of the ways many people realized that soft voices gave them a tingly feeling. I didn't know his show was ever played in Britain.
They say he spoke softly because, after his experience as an army drill instructor, he never wanted to raise his voice ever again. Me, I just like his "happy trees" and the re-assurance that anything you wanted to put in the painting was a-okay. :D

It was sadly never available over here. I've been watching him on Youtube.
The drill instructor story was true.
He died too young...the same age as I am now...
 
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