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Beckjord: I Was Mothman!

Mothman available for Unconvention

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If they send a ticket, I will come.... with 35 mb cds of Bigfoot from Patterson film, and new
cds of Raynor Loch Ness film 1967, both from 1967. Also photos of the crop circles I made
(in the corn, for you Brits) , mentally.... while I was there on various expeditions to Wilts.
Also my own Loch Ness (of Nessie) 1983 film. No time for ALL THE REST.......

I do things, most just talk.

Popular Erik -- just fighting off the fans and the women...

[email protected]

PS as for Doc Shiels, that old faker, he is psychic --- but since he saw Owlman, he could not
BE Owlman, as well... it was one of you Brits/// in an oobe.

BTW, for all you Brit idiots, if I had the firm proof for any of this, I would go to the London
Times, sure as hell not FT.

BONK!
 
OOBE = Out Of Body Experience

I'm not arguing with anyone on this. There is no proof, but people should keep an open mind - when there is no probable explanation, yer smimming in the improbable, folks :D

The Times, when the film is released, may be up for Mothman stories! Who knows? You'll have to tell us how close to your experience the film is Beckjord :)
 
Aye, it does seem strange that Beckjord's claims have come out just before the blockbuster movie...

...but then again, I have no room to talk, cos I'm actually Gandalf.
 
I thought it was my turn to be Gandalf! Okay, if I say I'll be a Chuppy this week, can I be Gandalf next week?

Purlease....

:p
 
Holdup, Holdup!!!!

Sprouty, Cursed, you can't be Gandalf because I'm Gandalf.

Oh, no!! Never mind, Just checked my name tag, I'm actually Jimmy Saville.

Wrong wizened old man, surrounded by little people.

Sorry.

:D
 
Does that make me Gandalf then?
Or am I The Merlin this week?

Could I have a official decission on this please.

Niles "Uncertainty" Calder
 
Trivial replies---

:p

You who do not even know what an oobe is should not post here. -- Shame!

As for proof, any of you, all of you, show me you have done squat with your lives
or your non-research.

A good theory is half the distance.

Erik
 
Re: But,but,but, I AM Mothman!

Does this mean that you've got a Moth-cave under your house, and you set out to fight crime in your Mothmobile? :rolleyes:
 
Re: Johnnyboy -- your zip is undone.

beckjord said:
Sums you up


.:rolleyes:
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Ooohh, handbags at dawn! I am wounded to my soul!

Seriously though Becks, if you can describe your OOBE and the thinking behind your hypothesis in a reasoned way, rather than just popping up every now and then and announcing "I am Mothman!", you'd probably find us a little less willing to take the micky.

Getting all high and mighty and dismissing the rest of us as ignorant peasants isn't the way to go about it either. Ok, so some of us may not know what an OOBE is, but so what? These boards are full of people with a huge range of interests and knowledge, and part of the fun of it is in picking up bits and pieces from everyone else, and discussing them, often in an irreverant way. Like I said, fun.

So, take a deep breath, calm down a bit, put your theory forward in a less confrontational way, and stop taking it all so personally...
 
"Not only are Bigfoot, Nessie, etc, wierder than you think, they are wierder than you can think".
As are you m8.
 
This matter can be settled sensibly and, hopefully, to everyone's satisfaction by making a proposal to Mr Beckjord:

Unconvention 2002 is to be held at the Commonwealth Institute, Kensington High Street, London W8 6NQ, UK on 6-7 April 2002. Let us invite Mothman to appear there for those of us in attendance, say, in the main hall at mid-day precisely on 6 April? If that is too tough a challenge, then anywhere in the vicinity of the Institute over that weekend will suffice - as long as we have some independent witnesses.


PS Pledge: no insect repellent or mothballs within 500m of the venue!
 
Hermes said:
PS Pledge: no insect repellent or mothballs within 500m of the venue!
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Awwww! You're no fun (all the time) Herms...

Okay Beckjord/Mothman, see ya at the 'con!

Niles "Bugged" Calder
 
Send me a paid air ticket, r/t, and MOTHMAN WILL APPEAR at u

My little wings would get tired if I flew on my own...

SEND TICKET.

There will be no better speaker... period.

Erik (Mothman) Beckjord


PS What bitches me off about all these Fortean lists is
a built-in sense of superiority that the brits have,
simply because they live in England. By merely being
"British".... often most have not even gotten their
O levels passed, and yet, they act so damn snide.

I know, because I have downed many a pint in London, Manchester,
Liverpool, Leeds, and even got drunk with Doc Shiels in Cornwall.

Plus Inverness, Marlboro, Edionburgh and Glasgow.

AND THE BARGE PUB.

SEND TICKET TO BOX 9502,BERKELEY,CA, 94709

I MEAN, YOU REALLLLLLLLY DID NOT THINK I would pay to go,
did you? I live in America!
 
You know, I really hope the FT team are reading this, and send an invitation to Mr Beckjord to address the Uncon. I'm sure everyone will be pleased to accommodate 'Moth', and find themselves either informed or entertained. However, Mothman is a psychic-born creature, is he not? I personally will be more impressed if he makes his presence known in that manner, and not hauling a suitcase and bitching about jetlag and the British weather.
 
I am not here to "impress" Mr Hermes.

My transition from body state to Mothman state will be done hidden by
a cloud of bullsh*t.

Frankly put, I have done more work on nessie, corn circles,
ufos,bigfoot, and THE ILKLELEY MOOR ALIEN than you can imagine,
since most of you are layabouts. The word : "Fortean" means "Layabout".
You all read magazines, watch the telly, but do no research. You are the slaves of
Rickard and Sieveking (who is Hierophant...)

If I get off the plane, (Vrgin Air), it will be wearing my ILKELEY MOOR
ALIEN TEE SHIRT.

(bU TAHT, bu taht, etc..)

Or maybe my REAL FACE ON MARS ON A REAL ALIEN ON MARS,
TEE SHIRT... face recorded by Pathdfinder Misson.

See http://www.beckjord.com/mars

:eek!!!!:
 
Sniff, sniff... There's a faint whiff of troll around here - I'm off!
 
A troll who can't spell.

So much for research, waving around academic qualifications and MENSA membership, then.

A talking llama. Now that I would like to see.

:D
 
Cursed said:
A talking llama. Now that I would like to see.

:D
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"Llamaman, Llamaman, does anything that a llama can..."

Anyone else remember that from the Steve Wright show in the 80s?

Some canny North Wales businessman was planning llama treks up Snowdon last time I was there. Does this mean we're in for a new spate of Mothman sightings in the mountains?
 
If you do all this investigation that makes you an investigator, not neccasarily a Fortean. IMHO most investigators seem to have a bias in proving their theory to be correct cf Graham Hancock et al.

I believe being a fortean is about collating data from investigations, media reports and general chatter overheard. Therefore amateur forteans can do a lot from the armchair reading magazines etc.

Quote for FT magazine.
"Fort was skeptical about scientific explanations, observing how scientists argued according to their own beliefs rather than the rules of evidence and that inconvenient data was ignored, suppressed, discredited or explained away (which is quite different from explaining a thing)."

This implies he was more interested in how scientists worked than actually being a scientist.

We still need people like you to give us our data and sometimes we may do a ghost hunt or look for Nessie. Looking at the data and the reasons behind the data is more fortean and is better conducted in a place where we have numerous references to cross check the work. It is a life long hobby and at the end we may not have any answers, just, hopefully a bit more wisdom.

As to the British being snooty, maybe it's true sometimes but if you look at your posts you may just have inflamed them a bit?

Just to confirm - passed my O Levels and even got an A level, whoppee do, so what?

Oh well back to my books and magazines, nice cup of tea and a bit more study on whatever takes my fancy.
 
Re: Send me a paid air ticket, r/t, and MOTHMAN WILL APPEAR

beckjord said:
PS What bitches me off about all these Fortean lists is
a built-in sense of superiority that the brits have,
simply because they live in England
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Nah, it not cos I live in England, my air of superiority comes from all that work I carried out helping Frodo and his assorted band of Middle Earth creatures in their quest for the magical ring...
 
I have proof that llamas exist in the wild in South America. I am, in fact, myself a Llama. Anyone banna give us a free ticket to La Paz? Beckjords knowledge of "Ilkla moor baht at" makes me doubt he is one of our colonial cousins. After trolls are native to the old world (i should know).:p
 
Re: I am not here to "impress" Mr Hermes.

Originally posted by beckjord
My transition from body state to Mothman state will be done hidden by
a cloud of bullsh*t.

Didn't doubt that for a moment.

The word : "Fortean" means "Layabout".
You all read magazines, watch the telly, but do no research. You are the slaves of
Rickard and Sieveking (who is Hierophant...).

I thought the word 'Fortean' was coined in reference to Charles Hoy Fort, who demonstrably didn't sit on his backside and make unfounded claims. He paid his dues in terms of research - as have some of us who frequent these pages. If you were a better researcher than you profess and were more more familiar with Fortean Times than I believe you are, you might have pieced together the clues to establish that fact.

I'm not one to engage in puerile wrangles. Please - politely and sincerely, if you have really feel you have something re: Mothman that you deem important enough to proclaim repeatedly, and you feel will be persuasive to a properly cautious audience, then please shoulder the expense of the flight to London, and - yes - impress us all.
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Johnnyboy said:
"Llamaman, Llamaman, does anything that a llama can..."
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"...He can bleat, he can trot, he has everything that a Llama's got!"

I seem to recall that he ended up surrendering to his archnemisis (his ex-wife, I think) and her army of Nympomanics in School Uniforms, with their plans to take over the world and turn every man into their sex-slaves.

And on that note does anyone remember "The Purve" from the same show "...here I am. Freshly bathed and purfumed!"

Niles "Now a Classic FM listener" Calder
 
Tosh and Becks

Good grief man, you seem to keep confusing the patrons of this message board for some kind of serious research group. Most of us here are merely the audience for this stuff, and people like your good self are the entertainment.

*Becks- "If they send a ticket, I will come.... with 35 mb cds of Bigfoot from Patterson film, and new
cds of Raynor Loch Ness film 1967, both from 1967."

Of course, you've obtained permission to copy and publicly broadcast these films, haven't you?
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As far as I can tell, Doc Shiels never claimed to have seen the Owlman himself and the whole thing seems to have been a hoax perpetrated by him.
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*Becks- "BTW, for all you Brit idiots, if I had the firm proof for any of this, I would go to the London"

Thanks for the insult. You don't have firm proof for your claims?
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*Becks- "As for proof, any of you, all of you, show me you have done squat with your lives
or your non-research."

All you have to show us for your research is non-proof. Personally I have done no investigation whatsoever, yet I seem to have exactly the same amount of worthwhile evidence as you: none!
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*Becks- "A good theory is half the distance."

Surely, theories should be formed around the available evidence.
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*Becks- "PS What bitches me off about all these Fortean lists is
a built-in sense of superiority that the brits have,"

As opposed to yours...
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*Becks- "Layabouts..."

Doesn't OOTBEing involve some layingabout? Your right though. If I recall correctly, Charles Fort only ever conducted one investigation- into a frog fall, I think. Other than that he sat on his backside reading magazines, i.e. conducting research in libraries.
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*Becks- "If I get off the plane, (Vrgin Air), it will be wearing my ILKELEY MOOR
ALIEN TEE SHIRT."

This will be the one with the genitals, will it?

-J

PS Please explain the spam thing. Surely cans of aerosol pig would be more practical than fiddling around on a hijacked plane with tins of meat that one might not be allowed to take aboard in the first place.
 
I produced this rather belated reply in the hope that Mr. Beckjord will grace us with another flying visit. HA HA HA HA ....

-J
 
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