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JackDark

JackDark

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This pic is damned spooky. The 'simulacrum' (if so) is so good that I would not believe this if it was taken by anyone I did not know. Thing is, it WAS taken by someone I know. He's a retired copper, spends his time hill walking and has never had any interest at all in the paranormal. He passed the pic to me, because, I have.

Here's his comments.

Hi, thought I would pass this to you as it is mighty strange to say the least.
I was out walking yesterday, around the North Yorks moors. Came across this semi derelict castle like property, and took a few snaps. The place was pretty strange and as I was on my own and the silence was deafening, I left after 10 mins or so. It was only last night when I checked the pics that I saw that maybe I was not alone after all. For sure there was no-one around when that pic was taken, and worse, just after I took that pic, I went into that little hut, to relieve myself. There was nothing in there except fallen bricks. No other way in or out. I would be very interested to hear any feedback you may get.


 
This is a good'un!
Tell you what, it should be a simulacrum as that is the first thing of rational thought, but I have seen far worst examples on "ghost" sites. This one would go through as "real" [as in ghost] with flying colours on those sites.
Whatever it is, I repeat, its a darn good'un, thanks for that!
:yeay:
 
A ghost. A real ghost.

And he pee'd on it. :lol:
 
Any sensible analysis?

Paradoxically, this is a genuine pic.
 
It definitely looks like a person to me.

Seems friendly though.

Some kind of strap across his chest, like a bag strap or rifle strap.
 
Does he have the original image file?
There's no EXIF data on the image supplied in the first post.
I'd imagine that it's been poked with an electric stick to turn it into the grayscale image and reduced to a smaller size.

I've had a poke at it with another electric stick and got the face in question a little clearer - Clicky.

So - can he supply the original file and location of this semi-derelict property? :)
There appears to be scaffold and fencing up, so someone's doing something there, apparently.
 
I'd say there was someone there who had just seen your friend taking a piss. Doesn't look supernatural at all.

Who uses a black and white camera in this day and age?
 
Nah, he pee'd in the hut after he took the photo, which is why the ghost is still smiling on it. :lol:
 
Ah, right. The ghost would have been too embarrassed to helpfully pose afterwards, I suppose.

The best thing to do in this situation would be to take another photograph at the same location and do a bit of scouting around there. Otherwise I'd be thinking someone was pulling my leg.
 
gncxx said:
Who uses a black and white camera in this day and age?
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I love a bit of B&W meself, but then I still use film.
Between the B&W and the lack of any EXIF info I was wondering if either the image has been played with and that image isn't the original, or it's a B&W film image that's been scanned (although having a 640x480 size would be unusual if that's the case).
 
Its no simulacrum. Someone is looking out of that window so it's either a real live person who managed to evade your friend or it's a ghost. The only other explanation is deliberate fake.
 
The face is too small in proportion to the building. If it were looking out of the window, to be that small it would need to be much further back, in which case it would be obscured in the dark.

Or it's that scamp Luis Figo, up to his tricks again. ;)
 
the worrying thing is i tried to look at the original pic again, and a message from the italian police tells me that i can't view it anymore due to paedopornographic content. :shock: any of you having the same problem? or should i get seriously worried? :shock: :shock:
 
Oh no - has some wag 'shopped Gary Glitter into it? :lol:
 
What's EXIF data???? I will find out more bout the pic when I speak to the photographer.

Meanwhile, can someone tell escargot1 that when no laughs come - it's time to leave the stage.

- and maybe go look up the word 'boorish'. :roll:
 
JackDark said:
What's EXIF data???? I will find out more bout the pic when I speak to the photographer.
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EXIF data is what a digital camera puts in the image file. It'll tell you things like the camera used, the date it was taken, camera settings that were used.

If the image has been edited, or copy n pasted from one app to another, then you can lose that info.
Which is what makes me think that original image has been through a computer. :)




And let's all be friends, m'kay?
 
I assumed that the face in the window was someone posing for the camera, and that the real ghost was a shadowy figure I perceived in the doorway...

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So I guess it's what you make of it.

Do you have any more info on the building in question?
 
Looks to me like a real live person who is bending/stooping slightly to frame his face in the window. There is some sort of strap or crease running diagonally across his chest.

Maybe he just accidentally caught somebody on the photo or he's pulling your leg.
 
H_James said:
I assumed that the face in the window was someone posing for the camera, and that the real ghost was a shadowy figure I perceived in the doorway...
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Me too - the face just looks like a bloke with a record bag over his shoulder leaning forward to smile for the piccie.
ProfessorF said:
I've had a poke at it with another electric stick and got the face in question a little clearer...
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In the close up, it looks to me like a portion of the figure's shirt has "bled" onto the windowsill, as if it was grafted onto the pic with a few stray pixels at the bottom. In fact, the face does look like a 1980s footballer (not Figo) and I'm straining my brain trying to remember which one. Looks a little like Souness but it isn't. The white stripes at collar bone level are suggestive of a footie shirt as well - and it may not be a diagonal strap but a crease.

All of which suggests it could be a C&P from a team pic.

Or it could be a ghost. I dunno.
 
JackDark said:
Here's his comments.

"Hi, thought I would pass this to you as it is mighty strange to say the least.
I was out walking yesterday, around the North Yorks moors. Came across this semi derelict castle like property, and took a few snaps. The place was pretty strange and as I was on my own and the silence was deafening, I left after 10 mins or so. It was only last night when I checked the pics that I saw that maybe I was not alone after all."
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This is typical for a digital camera user. (Unless he used a One-Hour film processing shop..) So why does he shoot in B&W? How did he get the image to you - email, memorystick..? What are the pixel dimensions of the original? Can the face be cropped from the original to give more detail?

(Modern didital storage is so cheap I now always keep the originals as back-up, even if I keep a cropped, resized, tweaked version for 'everyday' use.)

More questions about the site. The scaffolding suggests building/rebuilding going on - any more info, or even some of the other pics?
 
H_James said:
...and that the real ghost was a shadowy figure I perceived in the doorway...
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I reckon that shadow was created by the photographer....

.....y'know, it looks, well, damp.
 
_TMS_ said:
That looks exactly like the building in Dead Mans Shoes that Paddy Considine's brother (character, real name Toby Kebbel) is forced into by the bullying gang. indeed, it looks like Toby kebbel:

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2913899776/nm1527905

and there is a shot in the film where he smilingly pokes his head thru the window.

And here's an image i got off google:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/93/20902 ... d5.jpg?v=0

may well be wrong tho'...
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Nope, it's Riber Castle sure enough. Wasn't a lot of that film in black and white?
 
Dr_Baltar said:
Nope, it's Riber Castle sure enough. Wasn't a lot of that film in black and white?
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yep, all the considine flashbacks at least. but im not saying it is him, just could be. and ppl that liked the film may well have "re-enacted" that scene so lots of ppls heads could have poked through that window since '04 (when film was produced)...
 
Well done, _TMS_!

Looks like the OP's policeman friend is a bit of a wind-up merchant!
 
_TMS_ said:
yep, all the considine flashbacks at least. but im not saying it is him, just could be. and ppl that liked the film may well have "re-enacted" that scene so lots of ppls heads could have poked through that window since '04 (when film was produced)...
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Like this...
 
rynner2 said:
Well done, _TMS_!

Looks like the OP's policeman friend is a bit of a wind-up merchant!
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And a piss-poor map-reader given that he'd taken the picture after going walking 'around the North Yorks moors'. Still you've got to admire the man's stamina - North Yorkshire to Derbyshire on foot in an afternoon is pretty impressive going, even if you're lost.

(It definitely is the same building - I've just checked the dvd).
 
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