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Celebrities & Saucers

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[Dan] Aykroyd said he has had two personal encounters with the unknown.

One occurred on Martha's Vineyard, he said, where he sighted "high altitude, glowing magnesium discs travelling at 20,000 miles (32,190 km) an hour at 100,000 feet (30,480 metres). ... wing to wing, edge to edge."

Four people with him saw the same thing, he said, and while one expert later told him it was probably a meteor formation of some sort "I believe they were visiting the earth, passing by on the way to somewhere else."

"The second was a telepathic experience," he said, which happened at a lake retreat in Canada.

"I was asleep with my wife and I woke up about 3 a.m. wanting to go outside into a field and look at the sky," he said, telling his wife, "They want me to see. They want me to see." She told him to forget it.

The next morning, he said, newspapers and radio reports from across the region were filled with eyewitness accounts from some of the estimated 12,000 people who saw a pink spiral in the sky.

The military later said it was a Chinese rocket, Aykroyd said, but he believes he was being summoned and regrets ignoring the call.
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Bonkers press release: (edited for brevity).


...Michael C. Luckman's controversial book, "Alien Rock: The Rock 'n' Roll Extraterrestrial Connection" , which claims that many pop icons such as Mick Jagger and David Bowie had close encounters with alien spaceships, is currently all the rage among celebrities, including Bono, Matthew McConaughey, Penelope Cruz, Angela Bowie, Steven Spielberg, and Pete Bennett, legendary promotion manager for the Beatles.

The book in fact is having such a huge impact in celebrity circles in Hollywood, New York and London that Madonna reportedly is ready to transform herself into a space goddess for her forthcoming concert tour and make a surprise landing in a spectacular flying saucer. The saucer will be based on the "Alien Rock"-style spaceship that celebrity fashion guru Andre Van Pier designed for his out-of-this-world New Year's Eve Disco Ball in South Beach.

..Bono's latest mission, meanwhile, is to contact extraterrestrial "space chicks" and is eyeing Van Pier to futuristic designs for U2 makeover in keeping with the theme of "Alien Rock," saying that Mick Jagger and the Rolling Stones waited much too long to reinvent themselves and consequently "looked antiquated." Bono was stunned to see Van Pier put precious $1,000 an ounce gold drops into his eyes at La Botega restaurant in New York's Chelsea district.

Van Pier explained that - as reported in Luckman's book - aliens commonly injested white gold powder to conquer disease and to dramatically extend their lives, possibly for hundreds of years.

...Later, at Berlotti, the exclusive Paris bistro, McConaughey, who co-starred with Jodie Foster in the alien film, "Contact." said that he loved Van Pier's recent line of alien chic urban couture streetwear.

...Spielberg got caught up in "Alien Rock" fever twice. Once, at New York's Four Seasons, the director of "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" and "E.T." asked about Van Pier's anti-aging secrets for Michael Jackson. "I need some of that," Spielberg commented on Van Pier's gold eyedrops similiar to the white gold powder purportedly produced by aliens to prolong their lives. Spielberg was stunned.

...Luckman, who is director of the New York Center for Extraterrestrial Research, is planning a series of Signal to Space concerts that will beam a live musical message of peace to outer space. Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, the Rolling Stones, U2, Elton John, David Bowie, Moby, Alicia Keyes, Tina Turner, Aerosmith and Van Halen have all beenmentioned as possible headliners for the history making events that will be held in Berlin, Tokyo and New York in the summer of 2008. Luckman is also planning a major made-for-TV movie based on "Alien Rock" as well as an extraterrestrial radio show.

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F***ing celebrities!
 
The book in fact is having such a huge impact in celebrity circles in Hollywood, New York and London that Madonna reportedly is ready to transform herself into a space goddess for her forthcoming concert tour and make a surprise landing in a spectacular flying saucer.
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No exploitative bandwagon-jumping for her then.
 
said that he loved Van Pier's recent line of alien chic urban couture streetwear.
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Alien Chic what the hell is that, i thought most self respecting aliens went round in thier birthday suits. At least if they finally do land on the white house they will all have jobs modeling.
 
Haven't seen any of this 'alien chic' couture but it all sounds a bit Ziggy Stardust redux.
 
More important Madonna news:

There's more than meets the eye in Madonna's triumphant arrival on stage this Wednesday at Madison Square Garden in a huge disco spaceship. According to Michael C. Luckman, author of "Alien Rock: The Rock 'n' Roll Extraterrestrial Connection," the Material Mom is in love with beings from outer space.

Luckman, who is also director of the New York Center for Extraterrestrial Research, revealed that Madonna insisted the costly mirrored spaceship be built for her current tour because of her interest in kabbalah, which teaches devotees how to establish contact with spiritual beings from outer space. "

One of the kabbalah's cornerstones is the Bible's book of the prophet Ezekiel and his vision of a chariot with spinning wheels in the sky--a flying saucer--that landed by the Jordan River and communicated with him," said Luckman.

Madonna's giagantic UFO is based on the "Alien Rock"-style disco spaceship ball designed by Andre Van Pier for his legendary New Year's Eve Disco Ball in South Beach. Van Pier, creative art beauty and fashion director for hundreds of music videos, designed clothing for Madonna for her "Like a Virgin" video and tour and for her controversial coffee table book, "Sex." He also created Madonna's most recent futuristic couture blue cosmic dress photographed by Patrick DeMarchlier for Cosmopolitan magazine.

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I expect Guy Ritchies next film will be about Madonna meeting kabbalistic aliens, then. (Although come to think of it, maybe that's what Revolver was about.)
 
Jon Ronson discovers that self-confessed 'Popstar' Robbie Williams, has grown a beard and gone chasing UFOs and meeting abducteees, in Nevada.
http://music.guardian.co.uk/pop/story/0,,2274878,00.html

I'm loving aliens instead

Robbie Williams disappeared from view at the end of 2006. Since then, he has become obsessed with UFOs and extraterrestrials. To gather evidence, he and Jon Ronson headed deep into the Nevada desert

Jon Ronson. Saturday April 19, 2008. The Guardian

On December 18 2006, Robbie Williams played the last of 59 stadium shows in a row, announced he was going to spend Christmas at his home in Los Angeles, and then basically disappeared. He was hardly seen at all in 2007. He briefly checked into rehab. He spent quite a bit of time hiking and playing football (he owns a football pitch on Mulholland Drive). Then he stopped hiking and playing football. His record company, EMI, announced he had no plans to release an album in 2008. Today he unexpectedly calls me to ask if I want to go with him to the desert in Nevada to meet UFO abductees.

"I've been spending so much time at home on the internet on sites like AboveTopSecret.com," he says. "I want to do something. I want to go out there and meet these people. I want to be a part of this. I want to do something other than sit in my bed and watch the news. And it starts with the UFO conference in Laughlin, Nevada, on Thursday. We can hear people's testimony about being abducted by aliens. There's an entire family of abductees going to be there, apparently."

I log on to the conference website. It's taking place at the quite down at heel-looking Aquarius hotel and casino. The conference slogan is Educating The World One Person At A Time, which makes it sound as if there won't be many people attending. The speakers will include Ann Andrews, from Lincolnshire, who claims her son Jason has had "disturbing experiences at the hands of many different alien species", and a surgeon, Dr Roger Leir, who claims he has extracted from patients 15 metallic implants that are not of earthly metal.

"I wonder if he'll bring the implants along," I say.

"So you can see with your own eyes whether they're earthly or not?" Robbie asks.

"Yes," I say.

"According to Jon," Robbie says.

He seems a bit disapproving of my scepticism. I tell him that my problem with spaceships is this: if they exist, why do they reveal themselves to the human race only in ambiguous ways? "I think maybe they're making mistakes," he replies. "I think the shield comes off by mistake and they were there all the time." He pauses. "I don't want to hear any debunking because I want to believe."

I fly to Los Angeles. When Robbie comes to his door, I hardly recognise him. He has grown a very bushy beard. He sees me scrutinising it, slightly agape, and says, "OK, I'm piecing it together now. I've grown a beard and I'm going to Nevada to speak to people about UFOs. I think I should shave so I don't look so mad."

Actually, I don't think his beard is a visual symbol of any kind of madness. This is just the first time in 18 years he has taken a break from work and is enjoying doing things he was never before allowed to do, which includes having a beard.

"Pop stars aren't allowed to have beards," he says. "Name me a pop star with a beard."

"Biffy Clyro," I say.

"I'm talking about pop stars," Robbie says.

We go to his TV room. His girlfriend, the actor Ayda Field, is in there, watching a UFO DVD. We all watch it. This isn't all he does nowadays - he has been writing songs and playing golf, too - but the paranormal has become a very big part of his life since he disappeared from public view.

Robbie first contacted me in 2005. He telephoned me out of the blue from a hotel in Blackpool where he was filming the video for Advertising Space. He said he liked a book I had written about conspiracy theorists and was thinking of spending a night in a haunted house.

"Do you know any?" he asked.

"I'll make some inquiries if you like," I said.

I spent a week sending emails: "Dear Lady X, I've read that, if the portrait in your drawing room is moved, a ghost is apparently disturbed and manifests itself. The pop star Robbie Williams would like to spend a night in a haunted house and so I wonder whether he and I can pay a private visit."

I expected not to hear back from anybody but, in fact, once I invoked Williams' name, owners of country piles started flinging their ghosts at me as if they were their debutante daughters.

"One of the guest bedrooms is definitely haunted by a young woman called Abigail who was starved to death by a monk in 1732," emailed one baroness. "Robbie is more than welcome to spend the night."

I was surprised to find how widespread the belief in ghosts was among the aristocracy. Every person I contacted responded instantly to say their houses were definitely haunted and Robbie was more than welcome to spend the night. But it never happened. He cancelled because of his workload; he had to fly around the world to promote his album, Intensive Care. But we kept in touch. He'd speak wistfully about some future day when he'd have less work on and could investigate the paranormal for real. And now that day has come.

Laughlin, Nevada, looks from the sky like a tiny, ugly Las Vegas, a cluster of crumbling themed casinos poking strangely out of an expanse of desert. We are travelling here in a private plane that Robbie has rented for the day. He has brought along Ayda and a lugubrious friend, Brandon. Being on a private plane is exciting. The flight attendant says Snoop Dogg often uses this plane and we can do anything we like. Robbie and his friends look at each other. The truth is, everyone is getting a bit older. Everyone here is nice and polite and quite genteel, and so, instead of doing "anything", we spend the journey eating breakfast rolls and talking about how exciting it is to be on a private plane.

"The toilet is amazing," I say.

"Am I allowed to stand as we land?" Brandon asks.

"We're on a private plane going to Nevada to hear abductees speak about their experiences," Robbie says. "That's ace."

We land. A car is waiting on the Tarmac to take us to the nearby Aquarius hotel. We take the escalator to the second floor, walk past the stalls selling Secret Space: What Is Nasa Hiding? DVDs, past a giant inflatable alien, and into the cavernous conference room where British speaker Ann Andrews has just begun her audiovisual presentation to an audience of 500.

I have to say, after all the anticipation, she seems a bit boring to me. She's recounting various tales of alien visitations in quite a dull voice. I half switch off and glance over at Robbie. He is engrossed. He is leaning forward, taking in every word, rapt. I decide to pay more attention so I can try to understand why.

Ann Andrews' life was quite ordinary, she says, until 1984, the year her son, Jason, was born. She flashes on to the screen a snapshot of a sweet little boy sitting in a field in Lincolnshire with a horse in the background.

"That's Jason," she says.

One day, when Jason was a toddler, Ann says she noticed he had a terrified look on his face. She asked what was wrong. He replied that aliens had appeared the night before at the foot of his bed and taken him to their spaceship, where they conducted tests on him. He said it was happening every night. As the weeks and months passed, Jason's story apparently never changed. When nobody was looking, aliens would come, float him up to a spaceship, and teach him the mysteries of the universe. They would teach him that he was placed on earth to become a psychic sage.

"We took him to a psychiatrist," Ann says. "We cried so much. We had him tested. But the tests all came back negative."

And then one day when Jason was 12, Ann says she made a very big decision. She decided to take the giant leap and believe her son. Every word. She has subsequently written a series of books about Jason including one called Jason, My Indigo Child: Raising A Multidimensional Star Child In A Changing World.

I lean over to Robbie.

"She believes Jason!" I whisper. "She believes it all! Isn't that amazing?"

"What's the other side of that, though?" Robbie whispers back. "It's either believe everything the boy is saying or remain steadfast to earthly beliefs and have a black sheep in the family. 'Oh, it's him again.' For her own sanity she has had to believe him." He pauses. "But for me, right now," he says, "everything she's saying is true."

Ann's audiovisual address ends with her projecting on to the screen behind her a series of extremely blurry photographs. From time to time, she says, Jason is summoned to the spaceship for some psychic brush-up training. When this happens, Ann tries to photograph the UFOs. But she has only a disposable camera and so the pictures always come out fuzzy and inconclusive.

It's time for the Q&A. Unexpectedly, Robbie's friend Brandon stands up and walks to the front. Brandon is a record producer and co-wrote some of the songs on Robbie's last album, Rudebox.

"I just wanted to ask, why don't you buy a better camera?" he says. A slight gasp reverberates around the hall. People don't usually ask cynical questions at UFO conferences.

"I'm absolutely useless at anything technological," Ann replies.

"Have you ever had any psychiatric evaluation or presented yourself for that?" Brandon asks. Robbie flinches and smiles.

"No, I haven't," Ann says. "I'd like to think I'm all there, but if I'm not, there are quite a few of us that have these experiences, so maybe we're all crazy!" She laughs, awkwardly.

"Thank you very much," Brandon says.

Robbie goes out for a cigarette. I tell Brandon I'm surprised Robbie brought him along after what he'd said about not wanting to hear any debunking.

"There's two sides to Rob in that respect, though, aren't there?" Brandon says. "There's the side that wants to go along with it, but there's also a very sarcastic, sceptical side." He pauses. "Which I'd like to think is the real side." Robbie comes back.

"My toes curled up the moment you walked towards the stage," he tells Brandon. "But I think questioning somebody's sanity when this is happening to them is perfectly acceptable. I question my own."

We're standing near the table where Ann is signing copies of her various books about Jason.

"She reminds me of my mother," Robbie says, glancing at her. "Mum was a tarot card reader. She'd have people round and read their palms. She'd talk about spirits and ghosts. On the shelf of books just outside her room, there'd be the books about the world's mysteries, elves, demons, witchcraft. I was so scared. I'd never talk to her about it. Instead, I just lived in fear of all of this stuff. Maybe that's why I want to investigate UFOs and ghosts and everything. So I can work out why I get scared at night." He pauses. "I'll go and say hello to her."

He approaches the table. "Hi, darling," he says, "I'm Rob. Can I buy a book from you? Will you sign it for me? How is Jason these days? Is he happy? Has he got many friends?"

"No," Ann says, "Jason doesn't have many friends at all. In fact, it's been awful, really. He's socially shunned."

"When did this social shunning begin?" Robbie asks. "What age?"

"I suppose it was when my first book about him came out," Ann replies, "when he was 14. He lost all his friends at school. Nobody wanted to know him. And, of course, word got around the small village where we live. It got very nasty."

"I can completely relate to that," Robbie says. "What is it he encounters from people?"

"In England, in particular, people are really spiteful," Ann says. "They ridicule him. They call out things from across the road like, 'Oi! Mental boy!' "

Robbie puts his hand on Ann's hand.

"Even if this was all made up, which I don't believe, by the way. Even if it was," Robbie says, "compassion should be shown anyway. Well, thank you." Robbie pays for the book and goes to leave.

"You know," says Ann, "you look very much like Robbie Williams." There's a silence. It's as if Robbie was having so much fun, he briefly forgot who he is.

"I am Robbie Williams," he says.

"Can I just say I'm a big fan of yours?" she says.

"Oh, bless you. Thanks, darling," he says. "And please send Jason my best. Maybe we can have a chat one day. In fact..." Robbie writes out his email address for Ann. "Tell him to drop me a line if he wants. It must have been a terrible time for you, and an awful time for him. It's just so sad to hear it happens. It's happened to me."

"Really?" Ann says.

"I think joining Take That was like leaving on a spaceship," Robbie says, "and coming back and all your friends going, 'He's weird now.'"

We queue for the lunch buffet at the restaurant.

"I'm glad I had a chance to sit down with her and talk to her, so I could see her eyes and read her," Robbie says. "She's a really beautiful woman."

"It's interesting that you identified with Jason," I say.

"But that's not what I want to talk about," Robbie says. "Because it's long-winded, and whingeing, and nobody wants to hear a whinger." He pauses. "But if I was doing your job I'd be asking that, because I'm asking the same question of myself, about why that nearly moved me to tears."

He signs a few autographs, and then a few more, and then everyone starts asking for his autograph, including one elderly American who says, "I don't know who you are but my daughter works for MTV and so she might." Word has obviously got around the conference that, in the absence of any aliens, the most interesting thing to have come down from the sky today is Robbie Williams. One conference organiser asks him if he'll consider being their official spokesperson.

"We need someone like you to spread the word and get the young people in," he says. Robbie seems quite attracted by the offer.

"This is possibly the most important thing ever to happen to the planet," he says. "It just amazes me that people aren't as interested as I am in this stuff."

There is so much commotion, we miss much of the next presentation and consequently never find out "what happened when four artists embarked in 1976 on what was expected to be a routine fishing trip".

This isn't the first time that Robbie's fame has hindered his forays into the paranormal world. A few years ago he invited the TV psychic Derek Acorah to his home for a psychic reading. A story subsequently appeared in the Sun under the headline, I Helped Robbie Williams Talk To His Dead Gran:

"Robbie invited me to his apartment in London. We chatted and he told me how much he loved the programme [Living TV's Most Haunted]. He said he had given Most Haunted DVDs to lots of friends, including Robert De Niro, Danny DeVito and Billy Crystal, and they were hooked. I was able to contact a couple of his loved ones, including his grandmother, whom he dearly loved. It was very emotional."

"The twat used my dead nan to sell his DVD!" Robbie told me, quite furiously, at the time. "Plus, I've never met Robert De Niro, Danny DeVito and Billy Crystal. I've never even met them!"

Robbie never spoke to Acorah again, but he persevered with psychics for a while. He met one he liked a lot more, but then one night over dinner the man told Robbie that he wasn't only a leading psychic, he was also "one of only eight people outside Japan ever to be awarded a samuraiship". He said if anything were to happen in Japan, he would have to drop his psychic career "and fly over there to protect the emperor". After dinner Robbie did a bit of research and discovered that nobody has been awarded a samuraiship since 1872 and that "samuraiship" isn't even a real word.

"Haven't all those bad experiences with psychics shaken your wider faith in the paranormal?"

"I suppose they have," he says. "I never watch psychic TV shows any more." He shrugs. "And I suppose it might happen with UFOs, too. And then I might be able to get on with my life."

But if that day ever comes, it's not going to be today, for at this moment an intriguing rumour reaches us. Apparently, a woman tells Ayda, a number of conference attendees spotted a battle between two giant reptilian beings in the desert outside the hotel the other night .

"Did anyone take any photographs of the battle?" Ayda asks her.

"No," she says, "but someone collected a tissue sample and gave it to Dr Roger Leir. He might show it to you, if you can find him."

Robbie says he'd recognise Dr Leir if he saw him. He has been a talking head on UFO documentaries Robbie has watched. And, sure enough, he spots him in the coffee shop adjacent to the casino. Robbie says he feels starstruck around UFO experts in the way other people feel starstruck around pop stars.

"Doctor," he says, "sorry, I'm Robbie. I saw you at the Conscious Life Expo. And I've seen you many times on the Discovery Channel."

"I've been a lot of places," Dr Leir growls.

"We've heard that you have a reptilian tissue sample here in the hotel," I say.

"Have you done any tests on it?" Robbie asks.

"I only got it yesterday," Dr Leir says.

"Can we see it?" I ask.

"Sure," he replies.

He takes us to his room. Dr Leir is the surgeon who claims to have extracted from patients 15 implants that are not of earthly metal. In the lift I ask if he has brought any of the implants to the hotel. He looks at me as if I'm an idiot.

"That would be absolutely ludicrous, unscientific and ridiculous," he barks. "I keep them locked away." We reach his bedroom.

"Where's the skin stored?" Robbie asks. There is a silence.

He produces it from his wardrobe. It is a tiny flake at the bottom of a jar. Robbie, Ayda and I crowd around and examine it.

"It could be a scale," I say. "It could be a reptilian scale - which is, of course, the hope - or it could be a little bit of a wing of a moth. Could it be a moth wing?"

"It could be a lot of things," Robbie says, cutting me off. "So, Dr Leir, this was given to you last night. Are you excited about what it may be?"

"In a word," Dr Leir replies, "no."

"Oh," Robbie says.

"It could be a piece of nothing," snaps Dr Leir. "I was recently sent an object that was surgically removed from an abductee. I put it under the electron microscope. It looked like an organic compound, so we went to the next level. We did a test that uses infrared spectroscopy. Long story short, it was a piece of wood."

"Ah," says Robbie, a bit disappointed.

"So I just spent $25,000 to look at a piece of wood," Dr Leir says. "You ask me if I get excited? No."

We fall into a slightly depressed silence.

"Do you worry that the aliens might want their stuff back?" Robbie asks, hopefully. "Do you get scared that they may want to come and get their transmitters back?"

"Well, if they want them back," Dr Leir says, "they certainly have an advanced technology over what we have. They could just take them."

And so ends our day at the conference. Robbie buys 15 UFO DVDs and we catch the plane back to Los Angeles. He puts the pile on the table in his TV room. They have titles such as UFO Space Anomalies: 1999-2006. I ask if he's really going to watch them all. He nods.

"I used to read the Sun, the Mirror, the Mail all the time," he says. "Eventually I had to stop looking because I'd find things that would upset me, whether it would be about me or about somebody else. So I had to fill that void. And that void has been filled with this stuff."

I think it's healthy that he doesn't look himself up in the papers any more. That week alone it had been falsely reported in the News Of The World that he had been dumped by a "Norwegian beauty" called Natassia Scarlet Malthe, and falsely reported in the Daily Star that he had been having secret face-to-face meetings with "mental conspiracy theorist David Icke" (they've never met). But the world he's obsessed with now - the UFO world - has its many liars, too.

"It's surely out of the frying pan and into the fire, liar-wise," I say.

Robbie nods. He says he knows that there is a chance it's all nonsense. "But even if it is all made up," he says, "it's better made-up stuff than what the tabloids are writing. It's more interesting. To me, anyway."

"And it isn't about you."

"Yes," Robbie says.

I leave him standing on his balcony with Ayda, and he does seem happy, gazing up at the sky, even if there's nothing paranormal up there.

"There's always this weird black circle," Ayda says. "You see that black patch over there? It's like dark fog."

"Yeah," Robbie says, "but that might be something as easily explained as light pollution." He pauses. "Right now I'm, 'You crazy American bitch! That's just light pollution!' But if we didn't have company, I'd be going, 'Let's stare at it for an hour and a half. Materialise! Materialise!' We'd be doing our materialise dance. But let's not do that while Jon's here. He'll think I'm weird." They carry on looking at the night sky.

"No," Robbie says, finally, "I don't think there's anything up there tonight."

· A radio documentary of their trip, Robbie Williams And Jon Ronson Journey To The Other Side, will be on Radio 4, May 6, at 6.30pm.
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Let's hope that the Scientologists, the Ickies, or even the Aetherius Society, don't get their claws into Williams.
 
Tomorrow night, Jon Ronson goes UFO spotting with Robbie Williams, on BBC Radio4.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/factual/robbieandjonjourney.shtml

Robbie Williams and Jon Ronson Journey to the Other Side

BBC Radio4: Tuesday 6 May 2008, 6.30pm

Journalist and documentary maker, Jon Ronson goes with the singer Robbie Williams to a UFO conference in Laughlin, Nevada in the USA.

Robbie Williams is taking time out from being a pop star and wants to get out and have adventures in the world of the paranormal.

He has a genuine interest in UFOs and has been researching sightings, abductees and the possibility of extra terrestrial life.

During the course of the day, Robbie and Jon meet a doctor who claims to have 15 metallic objects which are not earthly, as well as a British woman, Ann Andrews, who believes that her youngest son Jason is an 'indigo child' - a child abducted by extra terrestrials while in the womb and sent back to Earth to save the planet.

The documentary was recorded on location over 3 days in LA and Nevada. The programme is a radical departure from the usual pop star interview and Jon Ronson brings his own incisive take on proceedings with Robbie at the UFO conference.
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Get Robbie Williams for UnCon! (We've had Rat Scabies, so why not! ;))

I'll have to catch that on listen again.
 
Robbie Williams and Jon Ronson Journey to the Other Side

Since any discussion in the TV and Radio Reminders thread is going to get deleted, perhaps a good idea to start a thread for this - sounds very interesting!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/factual/rob ... rney.shtml

BBC Radio 4, Tuesday 6th May 2008, 6:30pm

Journalist and documentary maker, Jon Ronson goes with the singer Robbie Williams to a UFO conference in Laughlin, Nevada in the USA.

Robbie Williams is taking time out from being a pop star and wants to get out and have adventures in the world of the paranormal.

He has a genuine interest in UFOs and has been researching sightings, abductees and the possibility of extra terrestrial life.

During the course of the day, Robbie and Jon meet a doctor who claims to have 15 metallic objects which are not earthly, as well as a British woman, Ann Andrews, who believes that her youngest son Jason is an 'indigo child' - a child abducted by extra terrestrials while in the womb and sent back to Earth to save the planet.

The documentary was recorded on location over 3 days in LA and Nevada. The programme is a radical departure from the usual pop star interview and Jon Ronson brings his own incisive take on proceedings with Robbie at the UFO conference.
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I've merged ttaarraass's Jon Ronson and Robbie Williams Thread, with this pre-existing Celebs & Saucers Thread.

Any left-over comments, on the TV & Radio Reminders Thread will be moved here, in due course. ;)
 
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Hm, I suspected Robbie was loosing it of late! :roll:
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What'ya mean, sounds like great fun, I love to chase around investigating UFO related mulch and get paid for it, (*note to Rob817, "Become a Megamusic star, then you can become a UFOligist". ;) ) Might be quite interesting, if it could be made into a TV series.
 
Interesting programme, at times Robbie would sound pretty level headed about the whole thing, and then Ronson would inform us that he'd just bought fifteen UFO DVDs. I agree it's more fun than tabloid misery, but I hope he doesn't lose his sense of perspective, after all, he says he has been fooled before.

Robbie and Ronson: Alien Busters! does indeed sound like a good idea for a series.
 
As with most of Jon Ronson's stuff, the radio documentary was more interesting as a look at a different side of Robbie Williams than for its ufology content. Still, the stuff about "Indigo children" was good, I don't recall reading anything about them in FT to date.
 
We did have a thread about Indigo Children several years ago, but it doesn't seem to show up in searches.
 
http://www.showbizspy.com/article/191402/robbie-williams-i-came-face-to-face-with-a-ufo.html

Robbie Williams has claimed he came face to face with a UFO as it flew over him while he was lying on his sun lounger.

Speaking to British radio DJ Chris Moyles on his Radio 1 breakfast show, the former Take That star revealed, “I was out one night, half past 10 on the patio of a hotel in LA, there’s a girl to my right and she was lying down on the sun lounger.

“We were both looking up at the stars and then the stars weren’t there any more and a football field sized whatever you like to call it passed over the top of us, blocked out all of the stars, moved silently and was matte black underneath and square… couldn’t explain that.”

Robbie also revealed that he’d like to rejoin Take That.........
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Anyone know who the girl was??
 
azuredoor said:
Anyone know who the girl was??
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If it's the same incident I've heard him talk about before, it was probably his girlfriend, Aida Field.
 
Olivia Newton-John claims to have seen UFO
Olivia Newton-John, the Grease actress, claims to have seen a UFO when she was a teenager.
Published: 7:55AM BST 25 Sep 2009

The 60-year-old performer said that she was "intrigued" by unidentified flying objects and believed that most people in Britain shared her obsession.

Newton-John's co-star in the 1978 teenage movie was John Travolta, who is now a member of the Church of Scientology which holds that aliens populated the Earth millions of years ago.

But the actress's brush with extraterrestrial life was more mundane. She has described how she saw a silver object flying across the sky at "amazing speeds" when she was 15.

"I have seen one when I was very young. It was unidentified and it was flying," she told The Sun.

"In England most people now think UFOs are possible. Twenty years ago, how many people would have thought that?"

Newton-John, who grew up in Cambridge, is best known for playing Sandy in the film musical Grease but also released a string of No 1 albums in the US in the 1970s.

She married her second husband John Easterling in 2008, four years after her boyfriend Patrick McDermott vanished on a fishing trip in California.

Earlier this year it was reported that Mr McDermott is alive and living in a boat off the coast of Mexico.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... n-UFO.html

I'm shocked - how did Neutron Bomb get to be 60?! :shock:
 
If you want to highlight media links to Olivia's UFO sighting, never mind Travolta's Scientology, how about her sci-fi musical Toomorrow? It has aliens and spaceships and all that. Perhaps the space brothers told her to be in it.
 
Another John Lennon UFO story

The sighting, and how it perhaps influenced his later life, will never fully be understood, however any ufo encounter and especially the close one that he and May Pang experienced, was undoubtedly a life changing event for both of them.

Although reticent to inform the Media of the Ufo that he and May Pang both witnessed, he did acknowledged his sighting when his Album 'Walls and Bridges' was released.

On the bottom right of the back cover it reads "On 23 August 1974, I saw a UFO J.L.".

The John Lennon/May Pang Sighting

It was just after eight o' clock on a hot summers night that John Lennon had climbed out of a window, to a private part of the roof of the apartment he had in 434 East 52nd Street, New York.

May Pang who was in the apartment heard him calling 'May come here right now'

Fearful that he was in some trouble because of his insistent calls, she rushed out to his aid, and found him nude, and pointing wildly in a southeasterly direction.

Finding John Lennon nude was not a surprise, as he was not averse to going about in this condition, but to what he was pointing at was something she would not forget for the rest of her life.

There, not more than a hundred feet away was a 'Classic' circular, brightly lit ufo, floating silently in the sky.

As John Lennon would later recall, "I wasn’t surprised to see the UFO really, as it looked just like the spaceships we’ve all seen on the cinema growing up, but then I realised this thing was real, and so close that I could almost touch it!".

May Pang also described the event :

'As I walked out onto the terrace, my eye caught this large, circular object coming towards us.

It was shaped like a flattened cone and on top was a large, brilliant red light, not pulsating as on any of the aircraft we'd see heading for a landing at Newark Airport.

When it came a little closer, we could make out a row or circle of white lights that ran around the entire rim of the craft - these were also flashing on and off. There were so many of these lights that it was dazzling to the mind.

It was, I estimate, about the size of a Lear jet and it was so close that if we had something to throw at it, we probably would have hit it quite easily'.

Eerily the object passed by. 'We often had helicopters flying above us but this was as silent as the night and about seventeen storeys above street level.'

As they watched awestruck, The object flew off, but returned later, by which time she and Lennon had set up a telescope through which they could view it in more detail. The light was so brilliant coming from the craft that no additional details could be seen.

John kept saying "I can't believe it... I can't believe it... I've seen a flying saucer!"

Although both May Pang and John Lennon took photographs of the craft, the roll of film once developed, was blank.

Those lost images, perhaps showing John Lennon, naked, arms outstretched, shouting at the ufo to come and take him (he did do this) would have gone down in history as an iconic turning point in ufology.

But sadly it was not to be.

John Lennon did make drawings of the craft , but these drawings have never been made public.

Perhaps one day they will, and then we will see exactly what the craft looked like, on that hot summers night in New York.
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Who's May Pang? 1974...Yoko?

mooks out
 
May Pang was the Lennons' personal assistant with whom Yoko encouraged John to have an affair.
 
WhistlingJack said:
May Pang was the Lennons' personal assistant with whom Yoko encouraged John to have an affair.
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Those crazy kids. :roll:

Cheers jack.

mooks out
 
Ronald Reagan's UFO Sightings

There are a great many stories about US presidents seeing UFOs. Only a couple of the stories actually have strong enough evidence to back up the fact a sighting took place. One case with a lot of supporting evidence involves Ronald Reagan who had two sightings that we are aware of.

Both of Reagan’s UFO sightings occurred when he was the 33rd Governor of California (1967 – 1975). The first occurred on the night that Reagan was invited to a party that actor William Holden was having in Hollywood. A number of key personalities were invited. Two of them, comedian Steve Allen, and actress Lucy Ball both told the story of Reagan’s UFO encounter.[1]

Reagan was missing when the party began and the party was held up until he and Nancy arrived nearly an hour late. According to both Allen’s and Ball’s version of events Reagan was very excited. He described the fact that he and Nancy had seen a UFO while coming down the coast highway to Los Angeles and stopped to watch the event. Some unconfirmed stories of the event stated that the object actually landed. Lucy in her account of the event stated, “After he elected President, I kept thinking about that event, and wondered if he still would have won if he told everyone that he saw a flying saucer.”

The other Reagan sighting occurred in 1974 just before Reagan ended his second term as governor. The story was told by Air Force Colonel Bill Paynter who became the pilot of Reagan’s Cessna Citation jet plane following his retirement from the Air Force.

It a story Ronald Reagan told to Norman Miller, Washington Bureau Chief for the Wall Street Journal, the governor’s plane was making an approach to land in Bakersfield California. It was during the descent that Reagan noticed a strange light behind the plane. "We followed it for several minutes, Reagan told Miler. “ It was a bright white light. We followed it to Bakersfield and all of a sudden to our utter amazement it went straight up into the heavens." etc etc etc
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http://www.presidentialufo.com/ronald-r ... -sightings
 
Well, that explains Reagan's comment when he saw E.T., doesn't it?
 
Alien life and UFOs: 10 top 'believers'
NASA research has found that half of all stars in the universe have Earth-like planets orbiting around them, raising fresh hopes of finding alien life.
7:30AM GMT 21 Feb 2011

Numerous public figures from eminent scientists to politicians have stated their belief in the existence of alien life forms and UFOs.
Here we take a look at some of the most notable claims:

1. Professor Stephen Hawking

Last year, the revered physicist and cosmologist suggested that extraterrestrials almost certainly exist but that humans should be taking steps to avoid them rather than seek them out.

He said: “To my mathematical brain, the numbers alone make thinking about aliens perfectly rational. The real challenge is to work out what aliens might actually be like.”

“We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn’t want to meet.
“I imagine they might exist in massive ships, having used up all the resources from their home planet. Such advanced aliens would perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer and colonise whatever planets they can reach.”

2. Lord Rees

The astronomer royal last year said he believed aliens could well exist and warned that they might prove to be beyond human understanding.

“I suspect there could be life and intelligence out there in forms we can’t conceive,” he said. “Just as a chimpanzee can’t understand quantum theory, it could be there are aspects of reality that are beyond the capacity of our brains,” he said.

3. Lachezar Filipov

Bulgarian government scientists from the country's Space Research Institute claimed two years ago that they were already in contact with extraterrestrial life.

They claimed that experts were trying to decipher a complex set of symbols sent to them, after posing aliens a list of 30 questions.

Mr Filipov deputy director of the Space Research Institute of the Bulgarian Academy of Sciences, revealed that the centre's researchers were analysing 150 crop circles from around the world, which they believe answer the questions.

"Aliens are currently all around us, and are watching us all the time," Mr Filipov said.
"They are not hostile towards us, rather, they want to help us but we have not grown enough in order to establish direct contact with them."

4. Edgar Mitchell

The former NASA astronaut claimed in 2009 that alien life exists but that the US government was covering up the evidence.

Mr Mitchell, who was part of the 1971 Apollo 14 moon mission, made the claims in a talk to the fifth annual X-Conference – a meeting of those who believe in UFOs and other life forms.

He also said he had attempted to investigate the 1947 'Roswell Incident', which some believe was the crash-landing of a UFO, but had been thwarted by military authorities.

He said: "We're not alone. Our destiny, in my opinion, and we might as well get started with it, is [to] become a part of the planetary community. ... We should be ready to reach out beyond our planet and beyond our solar system to find out what is really going on out there.

"I urge those who are doubtful: Read the books, read the lore, start to understand what has really been going on. Because there really is no doubt we are being visited.
"The universe that we live in is much more wondrous, exciting, complex and far-reaching than we were ever able to know up to this point in time."

5. Jimmy Carter

The US President from 1976 to 1980, promised while on the campaign trail that he would make public all documents on UFOs if elected. He said: "I don't laugh at people any more when they say they've seen UFOs. I've seen one myself."

6. General Douglas MacArthur

The Korean and Second World War soldier, said in 1955 that "the next war will be an interplanetary war. The nations of the earth must someday make a common front against attack by people from other planets. The politics of the future will be cosmic, or interplanetary".

7. Monsignor Corrado Balducci

The Vatican theologian, said: "Extraterrestrial contact is a real phenomenon. The Vatican is receiving much information about extraterrestrials and their contacts with humans from its embassies in various countries, such as Mexico, Chile and Venezuela."

8. Air Chief Marshal Lord Dowding

The Second World War RAF Fighter commander during the Battle of Britain once said of UFOs: "I am convinced that these objects do exist and that they are not manufactured by any nations on earth."

9. Ronald Reagan

The US President from 1980 to 1988, claimed he had seen a UFO himself. He said: "I looked out the window and saw this white light. It was zigzagging around. I went up to the pilot and said, 'Have you ever seen anything like that?' He was shocked and he said, 'nope.' And I said to him: 'Let's follow it!' We followed it for several minutes. It was a bright white light. We followed it to Bakersfield, and all of a sudden to our utter amazement it went straight up into the heavens. When I got off the plane I told Nancy all about it."

10. Mikhail Gorbachev

The USSR's last head of state: "The phenomenon of UFOs does exist, and it must be treated seriously."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... evers.html
 
I think we have to seperate "UFOs" from "Aliens." Nowadays the concept that life exists elsewhere in the universe isn't really up for discussion, it's just a given in most science circles. However, the idea that this life is intelligent and visits us is the real question.

I loved Ronald Regans experience the best. You've got Hawking talking about numbers and stuff but Regan asking the pilot to chase the UFO and then getting all excited about telling his wife all about it gives it a real human element!
 
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