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Chicago O' Hare UFO?

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FAA blames UFO report on weird weather

POSTED: 1346 GMT (2146 HKT), January 2, 2007

Federal officials say it was probably just some weird weather phenomenon, but a group of United Airlines employees swear they saw a mysterious, saucer-shaped craft hovering over O'Hare Airport in November.

The workers, some of them pilots, said the object didn't have lights and hovered over an airport terminal before shooting up through the clouds, according to a report in Monday's Chicago Tribune.

The Federal Aviation Administration acknowledged that a United supervisor had called the control tower at O'Hare, asking if anyone had spotted a spinning disc-shaped object. But the controllers didn't see anything, and a preliminary check of radar found nothing out of the ordinary, FAA spokeswoman Elizabeth Isham Cory said.

"Our theory on this is that it was a weather phenomenon," Cory said. "That night was a perfect atmospheric condition in terms of low (cloud) ceiling and a lot of airport lights. When the lights shine up into the clouds, sometimes you can see funny things."

The FAA is not investigating, Cory said.

United spokeswoman Megan McCarthy said company officials don't recall discussing any such incident from November 7.

At least one O'Hare controller, union official Craig Burzych, was amused by it all.

"To fly 7 million light years to O'Hare and then have to turn around and go home because your gate was occupied is simply unacceptable," he said.

Copyright 2007 The Associated Press.
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UFO sighting at airport.

From AOL News:

UFO sighting at airport

An airport worker reported seeing a UFO

A group of airline workers claims to have seen a UFO at Chicago's O'Hare airport.

The United Airlines workers, some of them pilots, said the object did not have lights and hovered over an airport terminal before shooting up through the clouds, the Chicago Tribune reported.

The Federal Aviation Administration acknowledged a United supervisor had called the control tower at O'Hare, asking if anyone had spotted a spinning disc-shaped object.

But the controllers did not see anything, and a preliminary check of radar found nothing out of the ordinary, an FAA spokeswoman said.

She added: "Our theory on this is that it was a weather phenomenon. That night was a perfect atmospheric condition in terms of low (cloud) ceiling and a lot of airport lights.

"When the lights shine up into the clouds, sometimes you can see funny things."

She added the FAA was not investigating the incident.

A spokeswoman for United said company officials did not recall discussing any such incident from 7 November.

At least one O'Hare controller, union official Craig Burzych, was amused by it all.

"To fly seven million light years to O'Hare and then have to turn around and go home because your gate was occupied is simply unacceptable," he said.
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Even though it was spinning and had no lights, I'm sure it was Venus, what else????
 
ABC News had a "video" clip... it was clearly
a shot of the Phoenix lights. The whole video was about 20 seconds
and after showing three lights over a city the voiceover says the
"spinning disc had no lights." :roll:

Once again, they are pulling all stops in giving concise, carefully researched news reports.

Or -- is this their way of "testing the waters" and seeing how
often the general public will access such a report?

Different year... same old...

TVgeek
 
Dingo667 said:
I'm sure it was Venus, what else????
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1) Marsh gas
2) Weather Balloon
3) Flock of geese
4) Unknown

:)
 
Headline: "Airline employees say they saw a UFO over O'Hare Airport, but the FAA disagrees."

Huh? It's not identified, so...
 
I think this is an interesting incident but I find it hard to believe that none of the witnesses had the presence of mind to pull their phone out of their pocket and snap a few pics. I think it is also unlikely that, with the dozens of security cameras at O'Hare, that no one bothered to train a single lens on the object.

The description of the object, especially its departure (leaving a momentary hole in the clouds), certainly doesn't sound like any light reflection or refraction but, without still or motion images, it's just another unconfirmed story to throw on the stack.

S
 
Skeptical,
Nice to see ya made it over here.
I have a couple of friends in Chicago...maybe they know someone who works at O'hare and saw the darn thing.
I'll keep ya posted.

;)
 
One of the employees (dunno whose employee) present does have a picture, cell-phone or otherwise, according to a local radio station here. (Not that we're near O'hare but they had the Chicago Tribune article author on for an interview, so I tend to believe it). Anyway, the photo is not available for public view that I know of.
 
What seems strange to me is that the incident occured in early November, and is only now making the news; also the witnesses don't seem to want to be named- all the reports I have read so far have been anonymous.
A little strange, that.
 
here's what may be some usefull links in this page.

http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/ ... 25212.aspx

More than 3,000 reports of unidentified flying objects were sent to the National UFO Reporting Center over the past year - but not one has generated as much buzz as November's sighting at Chicago's O'Hare International Airport. Was it a metallic-looking, saucer-shaped object rising through the clouds, or nothing more than a meteorological oddity? It's hard to figure out whether the truth is really out there, but one thing is for sure: Clouds can do some positively alien-looking things.

Peter Davenport, the UFO center's director, says the buzz over the O'Hare sighting is fully justified.

"In my opinion, because I know the quality of the witnesses, and because I know the nature of the documents that were generated, it is one of the most dramatic cases of the year 2006 that this center has handled," Davenport told me today from the center's headquarters in Washington state.

On the other side, NBC News space analyst James Oberg - a longtime UFO skeptic - says the evidence that's come to light so far isn't all that compelling.

"It's just sad that we keep getting these reports which are of zero evidential value," he told me. "It's sad because there's a lot of strange stuff in the air that we do need to know."

Davenport's center put out the first reports on the O'Hare sighting weeks ago, but the report really picked up traction over the past weekend, when The Associated Press picked up a Chicago Tribune story about the case (free registration required).

Here are the basics: Employees at O'Hare reported seeing a dark gray, seemingly spinning disc hovering above Concourse C - at an estimated altitude of hundreds of feet, close to the cloud cover. The disc appeared to fly up at a rapid rate, leaving behind a hole in the clouds.

The Federal Aviation Administration acknowledged that it received a sighting report, but agency spokeswoman Elizabeth Isham Cory said no further follow-up was planned.

"Our theory on this is that it was a weather phenomenon," she told the Tribune. "That night was a perfect atmospheric condition in terms of low ceiling and a lot of airport lights. When the lights shine up into the clouds, sometimes you can see funny things."

Case closed? Not so fast, Davenport said.

"I am certain that the airline and the FAA are now attempting to conceal the true nature of the incident," Davenport said.

So far, about a dozen witnesses - all affiliated with the airport or airlines - have surfaced, according to the Tribune. Davenport said he's not yet aware of any reports from outsiders.

"Trying to find the actual eyewitnesses is very difficult," he said. "My suspicion is that there are a great many more. ... You ask, are there other witnesses? My response is, almost certainly. How do we find them, and how do we get them to come forward?"

One of the airport witnesses did take a photo of the phenomenon, but is reluctant to make it public out of concern for his job, Davenport said. "So far, over almost two months, we've been unable to get that," he said.

I have a feeling that even photographic evidence wouldn't settle the case. There are so many weird atmospheric phenomena out there that even crystal-clear pictures could be interpreted either as UFOs or as cloud patterns. For example, check out this roundup of lenticular clouds (offered with a big tip o' the Log to Phil Plait's Bad Astronomy Blog). Even knowing what they are, you'd be hard-pressed not to see them as flying saucers worthy of a Steven Spielberg blockbuster.

The idea that the disk left a hole in the clouds might sound like an atmospheric vortex phenomenon - perhaps like the vortices created when airplanes zoom through clouds. This Web page includes a video of an airplane leaving a dark, indistinct vortex in its wake. Other weird phenomena are reminiscent of smoke rings.

When I suggested that the O'Hare incident might have been a vortex created by an airplane rising through the clouds, Davenport shot me right down.

"You can conjecture all day long on that point if you wish to do so, but it's futile in this case," he said. "First of all, airplanes don't fly over [terminal] gates, they fly over runways. So your surmise, I think, is not appropriate in this case. ... This object was seen by many people to accelerate so fast and go straight up in the clouds that their eyes were unable to follow it."

To be fair, Davenport's center has been taking such cases seriously for 32 years - longer than I've been a professional journalist. So who am I to question the reports, particularly when they seem so authoritative?

The O'Hare incident is being taken more seriously than most sightings because the reports are coming from aviation professionals rather than untrained onlookers. But Oberg argues that the professionals don't always make the best eyewitnesses because they tend to favor flight-related explanations for what they see.

"NTSB investigators say that the worst observers of an aviation accident are aviation personnel," Oberg said. "It's because a pilot will usually want to understand what happened, and in his initial perceptions and later retellings will stress the facts that support his initial interpretation."

Oberg pointed to a couple of case studies in pilot misperception, investigated in detail years ago. And just for good measure, he passed along Web links to a Russian UFO report from 2001 that sounds similar to the O'Hare incident, plus the solution to a UFO mystery that came up just last week in Europe.

Oberg said the European case was particularly instructive, because the specifics about the mysterious glow in the sky helped investigators quickly figure out that it was most likely a cloud trail left behind by a Russian rocket launch. Without such specifics, the O'Hare incident may turn out to be little more than another "missed opportunity," Oberg said.

In any case, the incident is making for an interesting tale, and that has led Cosmic Log correspondents to add more UFO tales to a posting I published back in June. Feel free to offer up your own story right here in the comments section, even if it's decades old. If you've got a recent sighting, you might want to let Davenport know as well - you can find the contact details at his Web site.

Even if you've never seen a UFO, you can weigh in with your opinion on extraterrestrial life by adding a click to our unscientific Live Vote - and gauge your UFO IQ by taking our trivia quiz.
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crunchy5 said:
On the other side, NBC News space analyst James Oberg - a longtime UFO skeptic - says the evidence that's come to light so far isn't all that compelling.

"It's just sad that we keep getting these reports which are of zero evidential value," he told me. "It's sad because there's a lot of strange stuff in the air that we do need to know."
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OK, Mr. Oberg, could you PLEASE cite an example or three of legitimate UAP that we should be concerned about? I, for one, would like to know your criteria for what merits further consideration and what doesn't.

S
 
Skeptical01 said:
OK, Mr. Oberg, could you PLEASE cite an example or three of legitimate UAP that we should be concerned about?
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Er, how about Sprites, Elves, Gnomes...? And there are a lot of other electrical atmospheric effects (like ball lightning) that are potentially hazardous and of interest, as well as non-electrical ones like downbursts.
 
Another news report on this story, worth watching for THE MOST RELIABLE UFO WITNESS ever to be interviewed!

HERE
 
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