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UFO stories come and go, often with little follow up.

This thread is a collection of early UFO forum threads which had 3 or fewer replies. (All the original keywords remain - just Search entire posts rather than thread titles.)

The thread should also be a handy package for newcomers to the board to see some earlier posts. - rynner
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Talksport UFO sighting LIVE ON AIR

I'm looking for any information on the UFO sighting...over london...which was reported live on talk sport radio station.This incident was witnessed by a number of callers from different areas of london at the same time live on air...Was this an elaborate hoax...? The witnesses sounded alarmed at the objects movements and where on air for a long period of time reporting its actions...Please help? UFO stories come and go, often with little follow up.

This thread is a collection of early UFO forum threads which had 3 or fewer replies. (All the original keywords remain - just Search entire posts rather than thread titles.)

The thread should also be a handy package for newcomers to the board to see some earlier posts.
 
Collected short threads on UFOs

I went to the Disclosure Project conference in San Diego today 98/5/01). I was wondering how many of you all know much about them?

As for my impression, it seemed to be the same old thing: grass roots movement trying to get the government to release their information on UFOs and the alien technology that could give us free energy and support our "bright new future".

Oh, yeah and they don't want any space weapons or psychotronic mind control devices out there in space.

Nothing of it really bothered me until Dr. Greer asked us for donations and, oh, what the heck! Why don't we all just sign our tax refund checks over to the Disclosure Project so they can keep up the good work! What else would we need it for? Dr. Greer asked. It's only a $300-$600 dollar windfall...what could we possibly need it for? Gee, I don't know...how about feeding my kids or buying them new shoes for school? Jerk.

And what was it with them and their assertions that aliens are all benevolent "beings of light"? Last time I checked, Angels didn't come running around with anal probes!

Anyway, any other info would be appreciated.
 
i heard this on friday and i finally thought this was no hoax,it was very belivable,i was living near the london area though and didnt see anything strange,tommy boyd though wasnt that excited but i am suprised that no news reports or footage about these ufo's.
 
Lights in the Sky

I'm living down under in Melbourne, Australia.

I have seen something in the sky, on two separate occassions.

The first one was about 150 km southeast of Melbourne, at this camp (I was a volunteer to look after kiddies) and it was night time, the beach a short 2 minutes walk away from where I was. What was I doing? Unloading the car - carrying the food in cardboard box, and I can remember it was really cold that night, with no wind or anything - and it wasn't a special night, like Xmas or Good Friday. Anyways, I looked up towards the direction of the beach, and I saw something fly from behind the dense trees, vertically - I don't know how far up, but I'm a pretty good guesser at these kind of measurements - it looked like it was just below the normal height for clouds - and the description of it was that it was just a pretty big, glowish red dot (about the size of a m's m's in the perspective). It travelled vertically pretty fast (one second) and then it just vanished. I assumed it was just some kind of beach party, you know, fire work or flare - but it hadn't gone off or anything.

Another occasion that confirmed everything paranormalistic was when I was in the car with my family, driving from the centre of Melbourne to my home (couple of k's away) when I looked out of the front window - and there it was again - same description, same measurement guesswork - only, it went right horizionally across the sky and disappeared behind some buildings. :eek:

Any explaination? :confused:
 
What you're describing could be one of the latest USAF developments the MH-64K Night Stalker. This helicopter is a special operations version of the AH-64D Apache Longbow but it has stealth capabilities like the RAH-66 Commanche and a bearingless rotor which reduces noise level down to 35 dB. They are stationed on a trial basis in Fort Campbell, Kentucky as part of the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment but they are being tested in Europe in Germany and in RAF Brize Norton or Northholt (I'm not sure which). There could be one testing in Australia cause its kind of remote there and also the Aussie SAS are fairly secretive which is why they're one of the best. I don't know how dark it was so you might have been able to see an outline or not but with the addition of the orange light on the radar radome it sounds like the Stalker. I mean over the years F-14s, F-15s, AWACS, and even F-117s have been mistaken for UFOs.

:)
 
You could be right...

You could be right - and something just made me remember an article in a newspaper ages ago, about something that matched what I saw - people in Phillip Island (further south, just off the tip of Portsea which is south of where I first saw the red light) described a red light scoring the sky - just one circular blot of red light travelling in the sky at a pretty fast speed, and sometimes vanishing. As for Australian SAS, I remembered that opposite that area, across the Port Phillip Bay, is a secret army base... no treprassing allowed, blah blah, armed partols, blah blah... maybe thats Australian SAS, but to tell the truth, I have NO IDEA what goes on with Australia SAS... :confused:

But hey, thanx for your reply & giving me a pretty good theory for what I saw! :)
 
Oxford UFO Footage

Just trying to locate any information on some UFO footage that I saw on daytime telly about five or six years back. I seem to recall that it was shot in Oxford. Possibly, I saw it on a Pebble Mill style special - but I aint really sure.

It was daytime footage, of something resembling a fairly fat, silvery disk (some might say even balloon shaped). My initial reaction was that it was a child's novelty helium balloon - you know the type; Mickey Mouse or whatever. This was suggested to me by the apparent shape-changing nature of the object, as at various points it appeared to have a 'periscope' or stubby 'arms' protruding from it.

Halfway through the footage, something dropped from the object to the ground. This was about a fifth of the size of the object, and apparently solid and weighty, as it accelerated and fell very rapidly with no hint of wobble on its descent.

Now, if the object was a helium balloon, then you would anticipate that it would immediately start to rise after shedding this weight, but it didn't appear to do so. Obviously, someone can probably offer me an explanation for this.

So - does anyone else recall this film, or know any details of its provenance and subsequent resolution?

Cheers!
 
i live in australia as well - suburbs of sydney - and what i just read reminds me of something that i saw about four years ago norht of newcastle, nsw. i was lying on the beach with the wife, and just having a nice day - when i looked up - brilliant clear blue sky, not a cloud anywhere - i saw this little silver "ball" flying horizontally across the sky, roughly following the shore line, but flying dead straight. very fast, no noise, it was gone before i could stir my wife, so she never saw it (or believed me).

there is a military installatin not too far from there, and it was flying in the general direction of the area - i have wondered ever since what sort of thing that was, it looked way too fast for a baloon. maybe these are the same things that glow orange in the night?

also, has anyone ever seen that footage of when the concorde was new - it was supposed to be an ad for the concorde, but one can see this little probe going around it, back and forth, accelerating, it looks just like the thing i saw.

i am not at all convinced any of this is alien - just curious
 
The UFO Anthology CD Rom

If you have any interest in ufology I cannot recommend a better software source. There's audio, video, photos, witness interviews. I picked up a copy recently and I spent all night going through all the features. There's information on U.S. government cover-ups, ancient and biblical references, theories of UFO existence, crop circles, cattle mutiliations, abductions, UFO shapes and alien body types... Secret military and corporate bases too.

This is on disk one.. UFO Anthology. Some of the sources I doubt, but the ancient references are quite compelling. Especially South American and European. There are some Zoomorphic figurines from the ancient Americas that look like jet fighters. When the comparison was made at a museum in Washington D.C. the figures were pulled from the exhibit! They had vertical and horizontal stabilizers... (and the swept back wings of a high speed jet plane) the photos are quite clear and viewable.

Has anyone else seen this UFO reference disk? What did you think about it? Can you confirm/deny some of it?

Xerses

P.S. The website for the guys who made this disk set: http://4dreamland.com/
 
Re: The UFO Anthology CD Rom

Xerses said:
......Some of the sources I doubt, but the ancient references are quite compelling. ......
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Reminds me of an anecdote told by (I think) Carl Sagan.

CS was talking to a professor/lecturer of ancient history and culture (or similar), and the conversation got round to the latest 'ancient mysteries, the gods were astronauts' type of bestseller. Sagan says, 'Of course, the science is complete rubbish, absolutely impossible, but I was impressed by the facts about ancient civilisations'. Says the historian, 'Oh, that was all garbage and misrepresentations - it was the science that impressed me!' ;)
 
IMPORTANT – NEED YOUR HELP

Hey everybody I been making a web page on the weird, strange, and unusual but I need your help! The page will be on subjects like the paranormal, cryptozoology, UFOlogy, occult, conspiracy theories, urban legends, ect..

I am a professional web page designer so making the page look good won't be a problem but I need soon ideas and help on updating the page. I need somebody who is a good writer and can maybe write a weekly article of there choice and if the website turns out to be successful then we will have a "case page" where we explore paranormal things like ghosts, UFOs, whatever and document are findings on the page.

So if you have any ideas you would like to contribute or if you want to help out on the page please E-MAIL ME at [email protected] (Don't just post a reply to this message because I probably won't get a chance to view it). Oh yeah and if you want to work on the page you have to know what your doing and what your talking about and the site will have it's own official domain "www.something.com"

Oh yeah and the layout for the site is done if you want to see it e-mail me.

Thanks for your time and hope to hear from you.

Peter
 
SCHWA

Anybody any idea how to get a hold of Schwa stuff in the UK?
Preferably any UK websites/companies.
ta.
 
i remeber the schwa ufo warnig they gave away in fortean times years ago:eek!!!!: :D
 
70's UFO documentary

Does anyone remember a UFO TV documentary from the 70's called (I think) "Out of this World"?

There was a case on it that I've never heard repeated anywhere else. It concerned a middle aged British couple who were driving through the countryside in their Mini Clubman when they saw a UFO overhead. Then they were compelled to drive into a field where the UFO had landed. When they stopped, an alien walked over and stood at the side of the husband's car door and asked them to get out, but they refused.

I can't recall how this resolved itself, but the next day the husband was burned, like sunburn, down one side of his body - the side that had been closest to the alien.

In the programme, they drove out to the place it happened and told their story.

Can anyone tell me anything about this case, or any which books have any info on it? I've never heard anything about it since.
 
Texas - I THINK - UFO Case?

Revealing either my ineptitude at efficient Internet searching, or a lack of patience, or a streak of laziness, or all of the above... ;) .. let me turn to the expertise of those of you who frequent this board, to see if anyone out there can tell me a bit more about a UFO case I once heard a bit about, and which continues to intrigue me...

IF I am remembering it right...and in some of the details, I doubtless am NOT... there was a case where a number of people stopped on a roadside to observe an airborne object which was shooting sparks, seeming to act as if "in trouble" (subjective view there!)... I seem to think the object was either saucer-like or triangular, not plane-like. The sighting was in daylight and again, there were multiple witnesses (I seem to think there may have been MANY). I am not sure if a camera was involved, but I seem to think it might have been, but the film was fogged (?) , although here my memory may be embellishing.

At any rate, a squadron of helicopters eventually arrived...they MAY have borne US military markings...and basically seemed to escort this object off into the distance.

The thing is, a number of the witnesses developed sunburn like symptoms, skin rashes, etc...and I believe some developed more serious symptoms suggestive of some sort of radiation poisoning...

In closing, I THINK these folks sued the US Govt about this, alledging (SP? :blah: ) that this was a Govt operation gone awry, and seeking to have the Govt pay damages and for their medical bills. I believe the case was thrown out of court at some point because the people could not definitively prove the tie to the US Govt...?

As I said... I am sure I have many of the details wrong here..but I think the core story is essentially right. Am wondering if anyone remembers this, can offer some insight, or suggest where I could read more... or can tell me that this, in fact, is one of those ever popular apocryphal stories that sound too good to be true because they are... :)

Would appreciate any insights you can offer!

Shadow
 
It's some years since I read the book, but I believe at one stage he used a double camera set-up to provide range (and hence size) information. This seemed to reveal that the UFOs were really quite close and small, so could have been small hot-air balloons. And wasn't such a model found at his place?

On the other hand, if he was hoaxing, why get the 3-D pictures at all? Or was some one hoaxing him?
 
Advice about an alleged encounter

My wife is a nurse that makes home visits. She had been visiting an elderly couple. On one such visit, about four months ago, they told her that something happened to them the night before on the way back from church. They describe a light in the sky that seemed to follow them home. Later that night as they were getting ready for bed, something landed in their back yard, they live in an isolated area but their son who lives nearby also saw something near their house. They then told my wife that they lost track of time and their memory of the events that happened were kind of foggy. I'm not sure that these people had even heard of UFO's or aliens. They did not have a television. I live in a very rural area of the States and many people live in isolated areas and are very backward. Their story describes a typical UFO case but the words to describe it were not typical. They never mentioned the word "alien" but called them "things", such as "those things then came into the house". They never called it a UFO, they only called it a big light. As strange as this story sounds, my wife was sort of ignoring it and going about with her work. The woman had a history of slight mental problems. She did find it odd that the woman's husband was agreeing with her, because she found him to be a very honest and lucid individual. The woman also showed my wife places on her body and said, "This is what those things did to me.", my wife later recorded these places as circular burns or scars probably caused from cooking. My wife is a no-nonsense person and she doesn't give much thought about UFO's or alien abductions, but as she was leaving, the couple pointed to the back yard and told her that that was where the thing landed. My wife noticed something odd about the place and walked up to it. What she saw was a huge circular shaped burned area. She thought this was very odd, but then sort of forgot about it. A few weeks later the woman was released from home health. She had had cancer but it was now in remission.

A few days ago my wife found out that she had died, so she attended her funeral. She went to her husband to express her condolences and he began telling her more of the story. He told her that after that incident, his wife was never the same. She began remembering more clearly what happened to her that night. She began having nightmares. She refused to eat and slowly wasted away. Their doctor said that she simply lost the will to live. The couple's son was with him and agreed with the story, (it was at this time that the son told my wife that he too saw something near their house). The old man also told her that the spot was still there, grass was still not growing, (and it happened in the Spring) and the grass on the outer edge was yellow and was growing along the ground and not up.

My wife and I never believed in aliens. I'm not sure we believe in them now, but this has come as sort of a revelation to us. I always thought that UFO's were experimental aircraft and aliens are nothing more than a modern day belief in fairies. What happened to those people that night? Why would they lie about this, him especially at her funeral? My wife has become afraid of this, but she doesn't know what she's afraid of. Does anyone have any suggestions of what else this could be? I still can't believe that this was caused by aliens. It is much easier for me to believe that this was caused by something else. On the other hand, if this was investigated, it could shed some light on this phenomena that happens all around the world. I am planning on meeting with the man and his son and to investigate the spot in the yard. Does anyone have any suggestions? What should I ask? What should I do.
 
UFO Magnets?

Years ago, I went camping in the woods with my husband (before we were even dating), his best friend, and others. Our camp was located miles from town, and the night was clear, but hot and humid. My husband and his buddy began joking about UFO's and telling the rest of us that when the two of them get together outside at night, weird stuff happens. ( At this point, NO alcohol had been consumed...)

About fifteen minutes later, clouds rolled in, and the temperature dropped about 25 degrees F. I could see the steam of my breath, and I was FREEZING!! Then, the guys pointed up to the sky, and I saw a ball of bright light doing loops, 90 degree right turns and other weird manuevers. My reaction was strange. I became FURIOUS! I was angry at the light! I then stomped into my tent, zipped up the door, and prepared to go to sleep. Then, I could "feel" the thought, "Get up and look". Through the thin tent wall I could see a large shower of sparks ( We had NOT started a fire.) and the noise of loud static.

The men heard the static, but they did NOT see the sparks. They turned, saw me leap up, and then I was standing outside the tent. The zip on the tent was still zipped. It was still cold, and I was shaking from cold and fear. I said, "They told me to watch."
Obediently, I watched the light until it disappeared. The chill of the air disappeared with it, and the night was again hot and humid. I refuse to go camping with my husband if his friend is there, too. This sort of thing happens with those two. Anyone have similiar experiences?

Malys
 
Re: UFO Magnets?

Malys said:
They turned, saw me leap up, and then I was standing outside the tent. The zip on the tent was still zipped.
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About twelve years ago the sister of an acquaintance of mine was the apparent focus of extremely dramatic and violent poltergeist activity. The whole affair was observed and researched professionally but was put under wraps at the request of those concerned. The family were going through a turbulent and disturbed period and my acquaintance and his sister had a very fiery relationship. On one occasion, I think towards the end of the affair, they were arguing on the stairwell leading up to their flat at the bottom of which was a closed door with a window in it. During the argument the sister became violent and in the fight that followed she fell down the stairs and came to, unscathed, on the other side of the closed door apparently having passed right through it.

Now I'm a bit of a sceptic but the acquaintance in question, who I never actually got on with that well, talked to me because he knew I had an interest, if not a belief, in all things strange. He himself had always been a hard-nosed North Londoner who had up to this period shown no interest in the paranormal unless it was to ridicule it or dismiss it out of hand. The only thing I can tell you for sure about the whole affair was that he truly believed it had occured.
 
I suppose these two really belongs in the It Happened To Me threads. But that one with the UFO sounded odd. That the temperature actually dropped. Did you notice if it also got dark, besides the clouds. I remember at the solar eclipse it also became quite cold, even though the sunlight wasn't away for that long. So maybe it was blocked out by something in your case.
 
You're right; I should have posted this elsewhere, but I really want to know if UFO activity "follows" people. I've observed it with my husband and his buddy, and it's gone on for years. (So they say, anyway.)

It was at night, but the moon was out. We could see a storm going on off on the horizon, and there was a lot of lightning. Could electrical activity in the distance account for what we saw?


Malys
 
I think that the Ed Walters case has been nobbled elsewhere. The photos shown on the website have a look of a lit object (mad lampshade) being reflected by a pane of glass. :)
 
Glasney College

[I first posted this on a thread about dreams, but it seemed to kill that thread, so I thought I'd try my luck here!]

You can read about the Bishop's dream here:

http://homepages.tesco.net/~k.wasley/Glasney.htm

The book about GC is described here:

http://www.cornwall-books.co.uk/detail.asp?ISBN=0907018424
http://www.connexions.co.uk/tabbhouse/html/factual.html

From the book:
" 'In Polsethow shall habitations or marvellous things be seen.'
To emphasise the holiness of the site, the writer continued in the cartulary of the college:
'In which said place of oft-times in the blackness of night a most brilliantly shining light was seen from Heaven and girt round with burning candles a multitude of clerks clad in white, praising God there; as is most positively testified by the neighbours, who told how they themselves saw these things'.
The explanation for the lights might well be, more mundanely, emanations of marsh gas from the boggy land". James Whetter, 1988.

Marsh gas?! Where have I heard that before...? BTW, has anyone actually seen marsh gas? Somehow I doubt if it looks like 'a most brilliantly shining light... from Heaven'

As if this wasn't Fortean enough, what happened when I went to the library to look it up certainly was. I looked along the shelves of local history, but couldn't find the book. I told the librarian what I was looking for and she said "I gave it to the lady sitting over there just ten minutes ago." !!! Luckily there was also a reference copy she let me look at. Now this library is neither large nor busy (it's only open three and a half days a week), so I have to ask "What are the chances of that happening, eh?"
 
Crop Diagrams

I'd like to know your thoughts on this item.

While browsing the boards earlier I used the link from the starlight thread to access the Cosmic Conspiracies website. After perusing this site for a few moments I came across the part about Crop Circles. They have an interesting photograph of a rectangular crop diagram that appears to be an answer to a message sent out by the Aricebo Satellite dish in Puerto Rico in 1974.

Now what interests me is not the authenticity of the diagram but the arguements made by the guy writing the article about it, who regards it as a fake.

The message sent out by Arecibo contained a relatively small amount of information, but was enough for any alien intelligence to learn a small amount about us: rough DNA structure, approximate population, our location in our galaxy, and a stick figure of a human.

The 'answer' has relatively the same information, with changes made to it, as you'd expect from an answer to the kind of message sent.

See it for yourselves at: http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk (apologies for not setting up a link but mine never work)

The guy writing the article makes claims against it's authenticity which, to me, seem odd from someone who is supposed to be an authority on odd phenomena.

For example:

He states that on the crop diagram, an extra strand of DNA has been added, and states that the 'alien' DNA looks similar to ours.

Now I'm not a molecular biologist, but as far as I was aware all DNA on the planet share the same basic characteristics, the double helix. So having a triple helix seems, to me, to be radically different from earth DNA.

He also says that the workmanship on the diagram is rough compared to that of another diagram.

Well, lets look at it like this (it's been a long time since I was at school so bear with me):

Most crop diagrams are circular (not all but most). a circle can be created using a stick and a length of rope, to make a basic set of compasses, so the creation of an almost perfect circle is easy. (I know. My friends are I made a crop circle a few years ago). Most diagrams are simply variations on a theme, the theme being circles. These can be created fairly easily by anyone with a grasp of radii and diameters. We used to draw stuff like these at school.

The diagram he his debunking is rectangular, and so, in my opinion, would be more difficult to create with the same level of accuracy as a circle. The workmanship looks excellent on the photograph, which is taken from the air, but the article writer claims that the workmanship is rough and not as sharp as others. As long as the message can be seen, which it clearly can as he 'reads' it as an answer to the Arecibo message, whats the problem with the close up craftmanship.

I know I've been very longwinded about this, but I am keen to get your opinions on the diagrams yourself. I would also like to hear your thoughts about it's authenticity?

Cheers!!

Beast
 
There was a discussion of crop markings, including this one, on this board. Can't remember the thread name, but a Search on 'Chilbolton' should find it.

The thread I was thinking of is 'Round in Circles' but that seems to have gone off to the happy hunting grounds of cyberspace. Mind you, the Search function on this board does seem a bit arbitrary! My very first post is still available, but a whole thread has gone AWOL!
 
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