Ringo
I like to not get involved in these matters
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*Ringo wading in. Here, hold my beer...Waymarker said to EnolaGaia- can give us your own latest up-to-the- minute May 2018 cutting edge theory as to what exactly happened"..
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Hmm..forgive my skepticism, but I'm puzzled how they could have "accidentally" abandoned the tent and gone down to the trees in subzero temperatures at night?
PS- I read somewhere that their tent had a lace-up door instead of a zipper, so they hung a curtain over the door end to keep out the draught whistling through the lace holes. That could be one explanation why they slashed the tent in an emergency to get out quickly rather than spend time fumbling with the curtain and laces in the dark.
One theory I've heard was that their stove was giving off carbon monoxide fumes that were choking them, so they slashed to get some fresh air.
But yet I read somewhere else that their stove wasn't turned on that night, so there are many theories and counter-theories whizzing around!
The only cold hard facts we have to go on are that they abandoned the tent and went to their deaths, and that Yuri Yudin said some items found at the abandoned tent didn't belong to any of the group.
Waymarker, I can almost feel your enthusiasm through your posts. I can tell you're really into this subject. It's great to feel that especially for the likes of me who have seen their energy levels fade over the past 25 years of exploring the oddities in this world. But, and here comes the but, you are coming across as quite confrontational and sensationalistic. It seems, if I may say so Waymarker, that you have made up your mind about a certain modus operandi. I think your conclusions are based on conflicting information from multiple unreliable or questionable sources. Or maybe unreliable is the wrong word- maybe biased, or sensationalised as I mentioned earlier? There are inaccurate statements you are making which even I, not being that well read up on the subject, can correct...such as the stove.
Enolagaia has adressed most of these points over and over again, after having trawled through the original paperwork and reports AFAIK. Listen to Enolagaia and your own research will speed up as you stop chasing rainbows.
The problem comes when multiple sources conflict, then you start picking and choosing what fits your theory. We all know something unusual happened but let the facts (and not hack books) lead the way. For example, you ask us to forgive your skepticism regarding the group "accidentally" abandoning the tent. There was nothing accidental about them leaving the tent but there was obviously an unknown reason which caused them to do so quickly. This may all boil down to something very mundane (such as a irritated argument) followed by an unfortunate spate of bad luck (for example, weather conditions).