Flying Triangles
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I wasn't frightened and I'm not sure what it was. It was triangular shape and bright, it only came into this view for a brief time. It moved across the sky and then stopped, so I don't know what it was, as it seemed to transform itself into looking just like any other star.
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I rememeber one evening is Sussex it must have been about 11-12pm my friend and I had been visiting some friends on Sussex university campus. We were standing at the bus stop, and travelling in a SW to EEN direction was a light in the sky.
Eventually the object came overhead, no hier than a 20 or so story building. The odd thing about it was at first it's triangular shape but more predominantly the fact that it didn't seem to make a normal aeroplane sound( for the record I've lived next to a RAF base before, hearing various aeroplanes and helicopters but this wasn't one ).
An additional odd thing about it was that we could feel a sort of vibration running through our bodies as if our skeletons where picking up a deep base note. So it was more of a physical sound rather than an auditory one. Last but not least - and this may have been an optical illusion - was the blackness of the craft it wasn't shiny black like a car it was more of a smoky black like a dark tunnel or something as if it would absorbe light rather than reflect it......made me think of the stealth bommer.
For the record didn't feel scared just quite tranquill realy.
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I rememeber one evening is Sussex it must have been about 11-12pm my friend and I had been visiting some friends on Sussex university campus. We were standing at the bus stop, and travelling in a SW to EEN direction was a light in the sky.
Eventually the object came overhead, no hier than a 20 or so story building. The odd thing about it was at first it's triangular shape but more predominantly the fact that it didn't seem to make a normal aeroplane sound( for the record I've lived next to a RAF base before, hearing various aeroplanes and helicopters but this wasn't one ).
An additional odd thing about it was that we could feel a sort of vibration running through our bodies as if our skeletons where picking up a deep base note. So it was more of a physical sound rather than an auditory one. Last but not least - and this may have been an optical illusion - was the blackness of the craft it wasn't shiny black like a car it was more of a smoky black like a dark tunnel or something as if it would absorbe light rather than reflect it......made me think of the stealth bommer.
For the record didn't feel scared just quite tranquill realy.
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This RAF base isin't used for testing experimental planes, is it?
When they were playing with Aurora over Nevada there were lots of reports like that...
It goess at about 6 times the speed of sound, so it ouldn't generate a normal sonic boom, and if you saw it almost directly overhead you'd see this weird triangle thing...
Was it moving, and if so, how fast?
When they were playing with Aurora over Nevada there were lots of reports like that...
It goess at about 6 times the speed of sound, so it ouldn't generate a normal sonic boom, and if you saw it almost directly overhead you'd see this weird triangle thing...
Was it moving, and if so, how fast?
I haven`t seen any flying triangles but they have been reported over my town on one occassion. Although the people who spotted it didn`t really say it was a triangle but 3 lights in the shape of one. One of the wittnesses did believe the lights where from one craft though.
I wish I could find the clippings I had about it as I don`t remember what was exactly said or the date it happened for that matter. I do remember it was around Jan 1999 (I think). There was a later article in the local news paper about it. It was said that it would most likely be laser lights from a local factor outlet, bouncing off clouds. An expert said this yet I have seen the laser lights at night myself many times and I do not believe they could produce the affect.
So what did the witnesses see? It was deffinatly a u.f.o. in there eyes (I think they thought it was an alien space craft). I personally believe it was just lights from a plane or aircraft of some sort. To some these can be decieving.
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I wish I could find the clippings I had about it as I don`t remember what was exactly said or the date it happened for that matter. I do remember it was around Jan 1999 (I think). There was a later article in the local news paper about it. It was said that it would most likely be laser lights from a local factor outlet, bouncing off clouds. An expert said this yet I have seen the laser lights at night myself many times and I do not believe they could produce the affect.
So what did the witnesses see? It was deffinatly a u.f.o. in there eyes (I think they thought it was an alien space craft). I personally believe it was just lights from a plane or aircraft of some sort. To some these can be decieving.
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Although I dont agree with you on another subject, I do on this one. I saw a triangle passing over London in a south westerly direction at about 11.30pm on a hot night about two years ago, it was formed of seven lights in a triangle shape, it passed behind a small cloud but did not reappear on the other side even though I wached for about 10 minutes.nwoisevil said:
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First of all I have to say before I start my little soap box that I am a believer in UFOs and have been for many years and as a scientist I think that it is ridiculous to believe that we are alone in the universe.
Saying that however I have to say that I am very skeptical about the phenomenon of flying triangles. I have seen a number of flying triangle photos which on inspection resemble stealth aircraft much more than any UFO. There is too much evidence to suggest that it is in fact a plane.
First of all a lot of the photos I have seen haven't been just black triangles but have had orange or green lights aswell. This should suggest an aircraft to anybody who has ever seen one before.
Secondly, if you map out the sightings against air bases you'll find a statistically significant number of the cases occur within the flight path of these bases.
Thirdly, not a lot of people have had up close and personal experience of these craft. I mean after all the B2-Spirit stealth bomber was still in testing in Area 51 until 1988 and the F-117 is only now being shown off to the public. I have seen some F-117s coming in for a low pass at an air show in France a few years ago and it scared the hell out of me. The sound is unlike anything else because the radar absorbent materials that are used on the wings reflect sound different to normal polymers.
Saying that however I have to say that I am very skeptical about the phenomenon of flying triangles. I have seen a number of flying triangle photos which on inspection resemble stealth aircraft much more than any UFO. There is too much evidence to suggest that it is in fact a plane.
First of all a lot of the photos I have seen haven't been just black triangles but have had orange or green lights aswell. This should suggest an aircraft to anybody who has ever seen one before.
Secondly, if you map out the sightings against air bases you'll find a statistically significant number of the cases occur within the flight path of these bases.
Thirdly, not a lot of people have had up close and personal experience of these craft. I mean after all the B2-Spirit stealth bomber was still in testing in Area 51 until 1988 and the F-117 is only now being shown off to the public. I have seen some F-117s coming in for a low pass at an air show in France a few years ago and it scared the hell out of me. The sound is unlike anything else because the radar absorbent materials that are used on the wings reflect sound different to normal polymers.
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I guess you mean you don't believe in flying triangles as being alien spacecraft.
But because of the multiple witnesses of these huge, silent aircraft, they most certainly exist.
My sighting occured about 1989. The craft was about 300 to 500 feet long on a side; flew very slowly and silently; appeared to be a very dense black, as though it did not reflect light; and did have three red lights, one at each corner. The immense size of the craft along with it's slow airspeed, made it seem to defy any law of aerodynamics that would describe how something that large could remain airborne at such a slow speed.
I eventually thought it acted like a dirigible. And that could explain its suspension in air.
The only other strange thing about this was that even though I saw this 'Blimp" or plane at a usually very busy intersection at about 7 pm one Friday night, this particular night there was no one else at the intersection to confirm my sighting. And this was such a startling behemoth, that I did actually leave my car and step out side to ask if anyone else was seeing what I saw. But no was one there. This is a major intersection with four lanes for each direction, not counting the extra turning lanes for four different left-hand turns.
I mention this oddity because others who have been in the presence of these craft also report that often, even though in a group of people, the majority do not seem to respond to the triangle's immense size and silence. And believe me, when this thing slid over the treetops into the intersection at about 150 feet, it looks like the Mother Ship has arrived. It is directly overhead and is awe inspiring.
A friend saw one one night, while standing with about three other people. He says he continually nudged the others while they chatted amiably away about this and that, and although they would glance up at the strange thing gliding overhead and blocking out the sky, the friends seemed to shrug it off as nothing unusual. My friend was quite perplexed and shaken by their behavior.
Very strange.
-Sudi
But because of the multiple witnesses of these huge, silent aircraft, they most certainly exist.
My sighting occured about 1989. The craft was about 300 to 500 feet long on a side; flew very slowly and silently; appeared to be a very dense black, as though it did not reflect light; and did have three red lights, one at each corner. The immense size of the craft along with it's slow airspeed, made it seem to defy any law of aerodynamics that would describe how something that large could remain airborne at such a slow speed.
I eventually thought it acted like a dirigible. And that could explain its suspension in air.
The only other strange thing about this was that even though I saw this 'Blimp" or plane at a usually very busy intersection at about 7 pm one Friday night, this particular night there was no one else at the intersection to confirm my sighting. And this was such a startling behemoth, that I did actually leave my car and step out side to ask if anyone else was seeing what I saw. But no was one there. This is a major intersection with four lanes for each direction, not counting the extra turning lanes for four different left-hand turns.
I mention this oddity because others who have been in the presence of these craft also report that often, even though in a group of people, the majority do not seem to respond to the triangle's immense size and silence. And believe me, when this thing slid over the treetops into the intersection at about 150 feet, it looks like the Mother Ship has arrived. It is directly overhead and is awe inspiring.
A friend saw one one night, while standing with about three other people. He says he continually nudged the others while they chatted amiably away about this and that, and although they would glance up at the strange thing gliding overhead and blocking out the sky, the friends seemed to shrug it off as nothing unusual. My friend was quite perplexed and shaken by their behavior.
Very strange.
-Sudi
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Black triangles were reported some ten? or so years ago in the
countryside around Southport, Merseyside. I think the reports
were of them rotating, close to the ground. I think the sightings
were spread over a period of weeks but my memory of the details
isn't great.
Many people saw them, including a member of my own family and
a photograph appeared on the front of the local paper,
the Southport Visiter (sic - they do spell it like that!).
I have always assumed that the closeness of these shapes to
the Stealth Bomber made it more or less certain that they were
the Stealth Bomber, at a time when it was less widely discussed.
But then UFOs have always mimicked the technology of the time
and I love the mysterious tales of airships, from, er just before
the time when there were airships.
countryside around Southport, Merseyside. I think the reports
were of them rotating, close to the ground. I think the sightings
were spread over a period of weeks but my memory of the details
isn't great.
Many people saw them, including a member of my own family and
a photograph appeared on the front of the local paper,
the Southport Visiter (sic - they do spell it like that!).
I have always assumed that the closeness of these shapes to
the Stealth Bomber made it more or less certain that they were
the Stealth Bomber, at a time when it was less widely discussed.
But then UFOs have always mimicked the technology of the time
and I love the mysterious tales of airships, from, er just before
the time when there were airships.
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Sudi,have you seen the article in The Register? I came across it by accident while trying to find out about the Chinook that crashed into a bridge.The article showed a picture of this mystery beast behind a kc135 tanker with two f111's in attendance.I think the address is http://www.theregister.com Regards,rromarl.
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This is a wide ranging site, can you be more precise.
This is a wide ranging site, can you be more precise.
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Pete,hi.Sorry if it was a bit vague.Go to http://www.theregister.co.uk then if you look in the top left corner 'search the register' type in aurora and then scroll down the the headline 'mystery plane causes chinook crash' date mon.10 july 2000. It's probably a load of poo but the pic's quite good.Regards,rromarl.
Pete,hi.Sorry if it was a bit vague.Go to http://www.theregister.co.uk then if you look in the top left corner 'search the register' type in aurora and then scroll down the the headline 'mystery plane causes chinook crash' date mon.10 july 2000. It's probably a load of poo but the pic's quite good.Regards,rromarl.
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Thanks for the link!
Unfortunately, I don't seem to be able to locate the photo, which I would very much like to see.
However, based on the description in the article, (that the engineer saw a "dart-shaped plane taking on fuel from a US Air Force Tanker",) it seems that this "dart shaped" aircraft may not be large enough to match what I saw back in '89.* If the "dart" was taking on fuel, and it was as large as the monstously huge craft that I witnessed, then the fuel planes would have been dwarfed (even an airbus would be small in comparison...) and I believe that the engineer, Chris Gibson, would have commented on this fact.
I could be wrong, however.
And as we are discussing in the "Time Travel" thread, many things are relative, including one's subjective appraisal of size.
-Sudi
*In the lapse of time since posted this, I had relocated a news article which helped me pin down the exact date of the sighting. It was the evening of January 23, 1990.
Unfortunately, I don't seem to be able to locate the photo, which I would very much like to see.
However, based on the description in the article, (that the engineer saw a "dart-shaped plane taking on fuel from a US Air Force Tanker",) it seems that this "dart shaped" aircraft may not be large enough to match what I saw back in '89.* If the "dart" was taking on fuel, and it was as large as the monstously huge craft that I witnessed, then the fuel planes would have been dwarfed (even an airbus would be small in comparison...) and I believe that the engineer, Chris Gibson, would have commented on this fact.
I could be wrong, however.
And as we are discussing in the "Time Travel" thread, many things are relative, including one's subjective appraisal of size.
-Sudi
*In the lapse of time since posted this, I had relocated a news article which helped me pin down the exact date of the sighting. It was the evening of January 23, 1990.
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Sudi-get your hands on todays Mail on Sunday and have a look in the review section.There's an article by Nick Cook (aviation editor of Janes Defence Weekly) about Gen. Hans Kammler who disappeared from the SS after the war and was thought to have been "adopted" by the Americans.He was working on anti-gravity machines.The article also metions Aurora,flying saucers and Roswell.Very interesting reading!! Be lucky,rromarl.
Sudi-get your hands on todays Mail on Sunday and have a look in the review section.There's an article by Nick Cook (aviation editor of Janes Defence Weekly) about Gen. Hans Kammler who disappeared from the SS after the war and was thought to have been "adopted" by the Americans.He was working on anti-gravity machines.The article also metions Aurora,flying saucers and Roswell.Very interesting reading!! Be lucky,rromarl.
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Rromarl, I was intrigued by your description of the news story on http://www.theregister.co.uk about the Aurora plane causing the Chinook crash on the Mull of Kintyre so I decided to have a look for myself and then checked on the Federation of American Scientists website (http://www.fas.org) for news on the Aurora project. Sure enough there were declassified reports which show that RAF Machrahanish in Scotland was being used as a staging point for testing of the Aurora plane. Check out http://www.fas.org/irp/mystery/aurora.htm for more info including specs and blueprints.
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fk1121,many thanks for that-great reading! Sudi,if you go to the site that fk1121 mentions,http://www.fas.org ,you will see the picture of aurora (allegedly) that was in the register.It was there this morning when I sent you the note.After reading your reply,I went back to site and it had gone!!The picture was taken in Cornwall,not Scotland.But at the speed this thing is supposed to travell at,it wouldn't take long from one end to the other.The document in this article is facinating reading.Stay lucky,rromarl.
fk1121,many thanks for that-great reading! Sudi,if you go to the site that fk1121 mentions,http://www.fas.org ,you will see the picture of aurora (allegedly) that was in the register.It was there this morning when I sent you the note.After reading your reply,I went back to site and it had gone!!The picture was taken in Cornwall,not Scotland.But at the speed this thing is supposed to travell at,it wouldn't take long from one end to the other.The document in this article is facinating reading.Stay lucky,rromarl.
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aurora again
fk1121,many thanks for that-great reading! Sudi,if you go to the site that fk1121 mentions,http://www.fas.org ,you will see the picture of aurora (allegedly) that was in the register.It was there this morning when I sent you the note.After reading your reply,I went back to site and it had gone!!The picture was taken in Cornwall,not Scotland.But at the speed this thing is supposed to travell at,it wouldn't take long from one end to the other.The document in this article is facinating reading.Stay lucky,rromarl.P.S.see http://www.fas.org/irp/mystery/aurora.htm
fk1121,many thanks for that-great reading! Sudi,if you go to the site that fk1121 mentions,http://www.fas.org ,you will see the picture of aurora (allegedly) that was in the register.It was there this morning when I sent you the note.After reading your reply,I went back to site and it had gone!!The picture was taken in Cornwall,not Scotland.But at the speed this thing is supposed to travell at,it wouldn't take long from one end to the other.The document in this article is facinating reading.Stay lucky,rromarl.P.S.see http://www.fas.org/irp/mystery/aurora.htm
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Thanks, rromarl. I'm in the eastern U.S., but I will try to locate the August, 12, Sunday Mail.
I did find what might be, (through fk1121's post's link about strange aircraft,) the "re-fueling of the "dart" aircraft's photo.
It seems, regrettably that this photo is not legitimate. From fk1121's previously referenced site, (http://www.fas.org/irp/mystery/aurora.htm) I quote:
"It was recently reported than on 27 September 1995 David Morris of Walsall, Cornwall UK took a picture of a triangular shaped plane being refueled by a KC-135, and flanked by a pair of F-111s. The unknown aircraft appeared to be about three-quarters the size of the KC-135. This picture has been widely distributed. However, the "refuelling" picture is a hoax -- it was montaged by Bill Rose for the October 1995 issue of Astronomy Now (UK) magazine. There, it is captioned "A simulation of the refuelling of the top secret 'Aurora'. Photo composition by Bill Rose."<92a>"
Yes, the elusive Aurora is a tringularly shaped aircraft, comparable in size to other jets and normally observed passenger planes.
What I saw was a triangularly shaped craft the size of three football fields laid end to end. Moving about 15 miles per hour at about 150 to 200 feet altitude.
-Sudi
I did find what might be, (through fk1121's post's link about strange aircraft,) the "re-fueling of the "dart" aircraft's photo.
It seems, regrettably that this photo is not legitimate. From fk1121's previously referenced site, (http://www.fas.org/irp/mystery/aurora.htm) I quote:
"It was recently reported than on 27 September 1995 David Morris of Walsall, Cornwall UK took a picture of a triangular shaped plane being refueled by a KC-135, and flanked by a pair of F-111s. The unknown aircraft appeared to be about three-quarters the size of the KC-135. This picture has been widely distributed. However, the "refuelling" picture is a hoax -- it was montaged by Bill Rose for the October 1995 issue of Astronomy Now (UK) magazine. There, it is captioned "A simulation of the refuelling of the top secret 'Aurora'. Photo composition by Bill Rose."<92a>"
Yes, the elusive Aurora is a tringularly shaped aircraft, comparable in size to other jets and normally observed passenger planes.
What I saw was a triangularly shaped craft the size of three football fields laid end to end. Moving about 15 miles per hour at about 150 to 200 feet altitude.
-Sudi
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Hi Sudi.Sorry but I didn't realise you were on the other side of the Atlantic from me.If you don't manage to get hold of the Mail review the book is due out soon.It's by Nick Cook who is an editor in Janes Defence Weekly so it shouldn't be too hard to locate if you want to read it.Hope this finds you well,regards,Rromarl.
Hi Sudi.Sorry but I didn't realise you were on the other side of the Atlantic from me.If you don't manage to get hold of the Mail review the book is due out soon.It's by Nick Cook who is an editor in Janes Defence Weekly so it shouldn't be too hard to locate if you want to read it.Hope this finds you well,regards,Rromarl.
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"It was recently reported than on 27 September 1995 David Morris of Walsall, Cornwall UK took a picture of a triangular shaped plane being refueled by a KC-135...... However, the "refuelling" picture is a hoax -- it was montaged by Bill Rose for the October 1995 issue of Astronomy Now (UK) magazine. "
Also, I am not aware of any 'Walsall' in Cornwall. (I checked 2 gazeteers.)
But what is really spooky - Sep 27th is my birthday (What are the chances of that happening, eh?)
[Note for non-UK readers - the phrase in parentheses just above is a catch-phrase of comedian Harry Hill]
Also, I am not aware of any 'Walsall' in Cornwall. (I checked 2 gazeteers.)
But what is really spooky - Sep 27th is my birthday (What are the chances of that happening, eh?)
[Note for non-UK readers - the phrase in parentheses just above is a catch-phrase of comedian Harry Hill]
You can hear a simulation of the sound reportedly heard during a flying triangle sighting here:
http://www.rense.com/general5/trisound.htm
http://www.rense.com/general5/trisound.htm
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Thanks naitaka!
That was very interesting. (I'll repeat your link to the simulated sound of a flying triangle: http://www.rense.com/general5/trisound.htm )
I'd like to say that I heard that exact sound....but don't recall that I did.
Maybe someone else can verify that simulation as close to what they also heard.
Thanks again-
Sudi
That was very interesting. (I'll repeat your link to the simulated sound of a flying triangle: http://www.rense.com/general5/trisound.htm )
I'd like to say that I heard that exact sound....but don't recall that I did.
Maybe someone else can verify that simulation as close to what they also heard.
Thanks again-
Sudi
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Sudi,hi. Did you have any luck in getting the Mail on Sunday article?Or find out about the book by Nick Cook?The message board seems to have gone a bit quiet,lately.I did get an email informing me of a reply from someone but can't find the reply or who it was from.Hope this finds you well,stay lucky.Rromarl.
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Thank you, Fortean Times, for your message of condolence to everyone here in America.
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I am posting these thoughts in this thread because many people who have experienced these monumental, strange aircraft have speculated if the U.S. government has fabricated them.
I have wondered this myself and am not sure what I believe. I tend to lean toward the non-extraterrestrial theories.
All I can say now, is IF we possess these ships....and if they can be used militaristically, they need to be deployed now.
Just sending them over the horizons of the appropriate countries would bring things to order very quickly.
In a bizarre way, this is a perverse test of where & what these triangles
might be.
I do not mean to offend anyone with these speculations, I'm merely trying to envision a way of dealing with the perpetrators.
And maybe without more death.
SUDI, U.S.A.
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I am posting these thoughts in this thread because many people who have experienced these monumental, strange aircraft have speculated if the U.S. government has fabricated them.
I have wondered this myself and am not sure what I believe. I tend to lean toward the non-extraterrestrial theories.
All I can say now, is IF we possess these ships....and if they can be used militaristically, they need to be deployed now.
Just sending them over the horizons of the appropriate countries would bring things to order very quickly.
In a bizarre way, this is a perverse test of where & what these triangles
might be.
I do not mean to offend anyone with these speculations, I'm merely trying to envision a way of dealing with the perpetrators.
And maybe without more death.
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I think you have a very valid point there Sudi, I've heard it said that these craft, if indeed they are of American origin, would only be used in the most extreme circumstances, ie if America or her allies were threatened, so maybe now we'll find out.:eek!!!!:
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I saw a flying triangle in September 1998 - it was about the time when the Gulf War crisis flared up for a second time.
I lived in Peterborough at the time, and was driving back home from working in Cambridge.
At about 8pm, I was on the stretch of the A1 which is 4 lanes wide, some distance before approaching Sawtry.
It was very dark and overcast, being just a bit stormy.
I looked to the side of the road, and saw a giant black triangle silhouetted against the sky. It was just hanging in the air in the darkness beside the road. All around the edge of the triangle were tiny white lights spaced at equal intervals, making it stand out quite clearly from the sky. Apart from that, there were no discernible features.
There was no noise and no movement that I could see.
I saw all this very clearly, although I was driving past at 70 mph - leading me to believe that it was a really big object.
Very quickly, it was all over, as I whizzed past and carried on homewards.
I remember thinking about it afterwards. There is a military airfield nearby - could it have been a VTOL stealth fighter with noiseless engine? So far, I haven't been able to find out whether such an experimental plane exists.
I lived in Peterborough at the time, and was driving back home from working in Cambridge.
At about 8pm, I was on the stretch of the A1 which is 4 lanes wide, some distance before approaching Sawtry.
It was very dark and overcast, being just a bit stormy.
I looked to the side of the road, and saw a giant black triangle silhouetted against the sky. It was just hanging in the air in the darkness beside the road. All around the edge of the triangle were tiny white lights spaced at equal intervals, making it stand out quite clearly from the sky. Apart from that, there were no discernible features.
There was no noise and no movement that I could see.
I saw all this very clearly, although I was driving past at 70 mph - leading me to believe that it was a really big object.
Very quickly, it was all over, as I whizzed past and carried on homewards.
I remember thinking about it afterwards. There is a military airfield nearby - could it have been a VTOL stealth fighter with noiseless engine? So far, I haven't been able to find out whether such an experimental plane exists.
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Can someone explain if this wonderful technology has a
Good-Evil detector mounted on it somewhere?
Otherwise you've just got a hell of a new killing
machine. It is the amount spent on this kind of spurious
security which has served Americans so badly.
Establishing technological superiority ought to be easy for
the USA, but war is turning out to be a more primitive game
of paper, scissors, stone.
Good-Evil detector mounted on it somewhere?
Otherwise you've just got a hell of a new killing
machine. It is the amount spent on this kind of spurious
security which has served Americans so badly.
Establishing technological superiority ought to be easy for
the USA, but war is turning out to be a more primitive game
of paper, scissors, stone.
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These are good questions.
If we have these triangles, and IF they have capabilities beyond the dirigible stage (which is one conjecture about how the craft is able to stay aloft at its incredible size and to also move siliently,) then I would say, logically, that by the evidence of non-use thus far as an offensive weapon, it has a "good detector" engaged.
As to having or needing a new killing machine, what do you need beyond a nuclear warhead?
Of course, this could lead to the argument that is always popular here in the U.S., re: "Guns don't kill people, people kill people."
We don't need a new weapon; one can severly injure or kill someone with regular household bleach, I imagine. And Andrea Yates, (the Texas woman who killed all five of her children,) managed the evil in her bathtub. We haven't outlawed bathtubs. Yet.
My point is, if these behemoths truly DO make us the 800 pound gorilla, we would have already sat where we wanted, because we have a variety of weapons that are lethal, many below the nuclear warhead level. (Please don't use that last thought to begin a debate on U.S. foreign policies of the last century. "Wea" culpa. We admit we've screwed up a lot.)
But I would say, that by evidence of non-aggressive use, so far, that the gub'mint has the good detector engaged.
And they would NOT need to stage a terrorist attack to gain world approval of its use. They would simply use it.
Thanks,
Sudi
If we have these triangles, and IF they have capabilities beyond the dirigible stage (which is one conjecture about how the craft is able to stay aloft at its incredible size and to also move siliently,) then I would say, logically, that by the evidence of non-use thus far as an offensive weapon, it has a "good detector" engaged.
As to having or needing a new killing machine, what do you need beyond a nuclear warhead?
Of course, this could lead to the argument that is always popular here in the U.S., re: "Guns don't kill people, people kill people."
We don't need a new weapon; one can severly injure or kill someone with regular household bleach, I imagine. And Andrea Yates, (the Texas woman who killed all five of her children,) managed the evil in her bathtub. We haven't outlawed bathtubs. Yet.
My point is, if these behemoths truly DO make us the 800 pound gorilla, we would have already sat where we wanted, because we have a variety of weapons that are lethal, many below the nuclear warhead level. (Please don't use that last thought to begin a debate on U.S. foreign policies of the last century. "Wea" culpa. We admit we've screwed up a lot.)
But I would say, that by evidence of non-aggressive use, so far, that the gub'mint has the good detector engaged.
And they would NOT need to stage a terrorist attack to gain world approval of its use. They would simply use it.
Thanks,
Sudi
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Well the thinking behind these triangles as regards the military aspect is two fold.
1) The smaller shapes are either another stealth fighter type craft or a recon. craft capable of being deployed anywhere in the world and returning with it's photo's within 6 hours. Very fast, very flexable, very hands on, Satellites are not - you have to position it, move it and hope that it does what you tell it. The speed these thing's go at, they have a minimal chance of being shot down.
2) The larger ones - it's been speculated that these might be some sort of super troop and tank carrier, able to land vertically, drop off a large amount of ground troops and move off quickly.
You can see the point of both of them, especially at times like these, near instant recon, fast ground force deployment, ability to take off and land in little more than an empty space - no need for runways.
One interesting thread that appeared about 4 years ago on alt.ufo.reports was that many of the triangle reports of the larger type were focussed around the north sea and that if you wanted to build say a lighter than air type craft with htol engines and low radar visability that in Denmark, all the private industries that specialise in these things are within 60 square miles of each other....
A lot of those Hudson Valley reports are very much along the lines of the B2 Stealth bomber, but one with HTOL capabilities, maybe a test engine got dropped into one or a very similar looking test platform.
There's some real video TR3-A (Supposed) footage out there, there was a web site with loads of triangle footage from the states as well, I will try to dig it all up. I've seen one myself, very big, rose up vertically, most certainly wasn't being stealthy..
Cheers Jolly.
1) The smaller shapes are either another stealth fighter type craft or a recon. craft capable of being deployed anywhere in the world and returning with it's photo's within 6 hours. Very fast, very flexable, very hands on, Satellites are not - you have to position it, move it and hope that it does what you tell it. The speed these thing's go at, they have a minimal chance of being shot down.
2) The larger ones - it's been speculated that these might be some sort of super troop and tank carrier, able to land vertically, drop off a large amount of ground troops and move off quickly.
You can see the point of both of them, especially at times like these, near instant recon, fast ground force deployment, ability to take off and land in little more than an empty space - no need for runways.
One interesting thread that appeared about 4 years ago on alt.ufo.reports was that many of the triangle reports of the larger type were focussed around the north sea and that if you wanted to build say a lighter than air type craft with htol engines and low radar visability that in Denmark, all the private industries that specialise in these things are within 60 square miles of each other....
A lot of those Hudson Valley reports are very much along the lines of the B2 Stealth bomber, but one with HTOL capabilities, maybe a test engine got dropped into one or a very similar looking test platform.
There's some real video TR3-A (Supposed) footage out there, there was a web site with loads of triangle footage from the states as well, I will try to dig it all up. I've seen one myself, very big, rose up vertically, most certainly wasn't being stealthy..
Cheers Jolly.