Hackers put Bush in power

[ted_bloody_maul]

Hackers put Bush in power


THE MISSUS of failed democrat presidential candidate John Kerry, Teresa has told the Seattle Post-Intelligencer that she thinks that the only reason her husband lost to George Bush was because of hackers.

Mrs Kerry is still skeptical about George Bush's victory some four months after her husband lost. She questionings the legitimacy of the optical scanners used in some states to record votes.

She said most of the machines used were owned by two brothers who were hard-right republicans. Kerry said that it was 'very easy to hack into the mother machines and urged Democrats to push for accountability and transparency. She said: 'We in the United States are not a banana republic. I fear for [the mid-term elections in 2006. I don't trust it the way it is right now.' More here. Mrs Kerry's claim

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=21721

 

[Jonfairway]

Hackers !!!

Brill

Americans must be the most gullable people on the planet.

How was the election won ??????

 

[Leaferne]

Good ol'-fashioned graft, thievery and ignorance, of course!

 

[Philo_T]

Buying proprietary computerized voting machines from a for-profit company with a conflict of interest is just stupid and ignorant. Not having the voting process open to scrutiny by all interested parties (yes, all 260,000,000 of them) is just criminal negligence. At the very least the GAO should have vetted the system.

I am astounded, no dumbfounded, that the American people quietly accepted these machines. Because we all know from fifty years experience that if the answer comes from a computer it must be right. This whole episode just supports my most cynical fears about the great unwashed. /rant

 

[Anonymous]

"I am astounded, no dumbfounded, that the American people quietly accepted these machines."

Join the club, we've got jackets. :furious:

 

[Jerry_B]

This whole episode just supports my most cynical fears about the great unwashed. /rant

Hmm - that's a bit of a daft attitude IMHO. It assumes that Joe Public has full or sufficient access to information about what is going on WRT how votes were collected and collated. If it's something not widely known (and one would hope that a true democratic practice is transparent) then you can't blame the general public for not being clued in. It's pointless to point an accusing finger at 'the great unwashed' and deride their cluelessness if they don't actually know what's going on. This information was hardly widespread knowledge was it?

 

[rynner2]

I seem to remember that concerns about these voting machines (and who controls them) were posted on this MB, prior to the election, but a brief wrestle with the search engine hasn't turned anything up!

 

[BaronVonHoopla]

This information was hardly widespread knowledge was it?

But at the same time, why vote if you know nothing about the process? I doubt all of that was hidden.

Hard to find, maybe, but hidden?

It could have been looked into. Ignorance is never an excuse.


-Fitz

 

[Philo_T]

This whole episode just supports my most cynical fears about the great unwashed. /rant

Hmm - that's a bit of a daft attitude IMHO. It assumes that Joe Public has full or sufficient access to information about what is going on WRT how votes were collected and collated. If it's something not widely known (and one would hope that a true democratic practice is transparent) then you can't blame the general public for not being clued in. It's pointless to point an accusing finger at 'the great unwashed' and deride their cluelessness if they don't actually know what's going on. This information was hardly widespread knowledge was it?

(Massively edited to focus on just responding to on JerryB's comment.)

It's the unquestionging acceptance of : 1) the machines themselves, and 2) the lack of transparency that I hold the general public (and the media) to blame for. (Granted, this is a specialist topic, and the specialists did point out questionable practices. And were generally ignored.)

These machines should have never been put in use until all questions had been satisfactorially answered and all problems resolved. This expensive technilogical bandaid was rushed out with no review. That the general public did not question this is what I find disturbing, not the fact that they may not have known what questions to ask.

 

[Jonfairway]

Your all on to a great one here

I looked into this sometime ago and it is really disturbing to say the least.

did you know for instance that Kerry was winning Ohio in the poll counts as they left the booths.

This was shown on CNN about thirty minutes later the same poll data was shown only it had all changed and now Bush was winning !!!

very odd

Who owns the TV ????????

Knee deep in poo this one !!!!!

 

[Jerry_B]

It's the unquestionging acceptance of : 1) the machines themselves, and 2) the lack of transparency that I hold the general public (and the media) to blame for. (Granted, this is a specialist topic, and the specialists did point out questionable practices. And were generally ignored.)

It's hardly 'unquestioning acceptance'. How can you ask question about a possible problem if you don't know the problem's there, and/or is not common knowledge?

 

[RainyOcean]

There has actually been plenty of controversy over the various types of voting machines in this country. Unfortunately, despite popular belief, the general public has absolutely no control over anything. The idea that the American people have the right to stop the government when they are doing awful things hasn't been true for a long, long time (if ever).

I KNEW there was no way Bush could have actually been elected into office again!!!!!!!!!!

 

[ramonmercado]

I was at an Anti-War Demo on Saturday in Dublin & a guy was giving out leaflets about how the election had been stolen through electronic vote rigginng. Dont have the flyer with me but I'll post the url that was on it later.