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http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/02/09/BAGIL4RS411.DTL
Cleese on finding Holy Grail
Satirist of religion in Monty Python now a spiritual man
Don Lattin, Chronicle Religion Writer
Monday, February 9, 2004

John Cleese and his co-conspirators in the Monty Python comedy troupe always loved to the skewer the sacred.

Their satires on the search for the Holy Grail, the life of Jesus (a.k.a. "Brian") and the pomposity of Sunday morning worship are among the cult classics of cinematic heresy.

And now for something completely different ...

Cleese, who turned from Anglicanism to atheism at his British boarding school, has discovered the Meaning of Life. And he found it in the mineral baths at the Esalen Institute -- the famous spiritual retreat on the Big Sur coast.

The writer, actor and comic will discuss these and other discoveries at a series of Bay Area appearances this week. The proceeds will support Esalen, the California institute that has been cultivating social and personal transformation -- and giving some great massages -- since the early '60s.

Cleese, 64, offered up a preview in an interview with The Chronicle in which he recalled his long, strange, spiritual journey from the High Church of England to the California New Age.

At his English boarding school, religion was as much a part of the curriculum as reading and writing.

"For me, the great problem growing up in England was that I had a very narrow concept of what God can be, and it was damn close to an old man with a beard,'' Cleese said. "God was treated like this powerful, erratic, rather punitive father who has to be pacified and praised. You know, flattered." For a while, in his early teens, Cleese waited to be touched by the power of the Holy Spirit. "I really did expect a golden haze to descend gently on my shoulders. Eventually, I switched out of disappointment to atheism''

After college, Cleese got a job writing for the BBC, eventually teaming up with Graham Chapman, Eric Idle, Terry Jones and Michael Palin. Their television show, "Monty Python's Flying Circus," premiered in 1969.

In addition to three Monty Python movies, Cleese is best known for his performance as Basil Fawlty in the 1970s TV show "Fawlty Towers" and his role opposite Jamie Lee Curtis in the 1988 movie, "A Fish Called Wanda.''

Meanwhile, back in his real life, it wasn't until the late 1970s that Cleese began to take another look at religion -- or at least spirituality.'

He was "strangely enticed'' by a book on Chinese philosophy titled "Tao - - The Watercourse Way,'' by Alan Watts and Al Chung-liang Huang.

Then, in 1980, Cleese was in Los Angeles for a Monty Python show at the Hollywood Bowl. He drove up the Pacific Coast Highway. Someone suggested he stop at Esalen. He had a massage, sat in the baths and stared at the Pacific.

Cleese had discovered religion, California-style. He returned for some seminars, did some meditation and got to know the institute's co-founder, Michael Murphy. He even moved to Santa Barbara, where he still lives.

Today, Cleese is one of the few non-academics on an Esalen think tank called the Center for Theory and Research. It holds conferences on such topics as "the survival of bodily death'' and "the varieties of esoteric experience.''

Atheist no more, Cleese now believes "without the slightest doubt'' in reincarnation, poltergeists and other paranormal phenomena. At the same time, he also believes that "a lot of the California New Age is nonsense.''

One of us, one of us, one of us.

He is, you know.:D
 
I would love to read an article on such subjects written by John Cleese himself in the pages of the Fortean Times - that would be a great read!
 
inkedmagiclady said:
Ahem..*cough* California, huh, Mr. Cleese? :hmph:
Dost thou desire the Holy Grenade of Antioch?
 
Keyser Soze said:
One of us, one of us, one of us.

He is, you know.:D
Too right he is! He's long been one of my personal heroes :). In fact my new (last) sig line is a quote of his from Clockwork :)

Actually, I myself drifted away from previously militant atheism, and am a born again agnostic now.

Seriously. Sounds trivial and glib, I know, but it's a big gulf I've crossed.
 
intaglio said:
Dost thou desire the Holy Grenade of Antioch?

No, just some of those darts left over from the make-shift dart board at the Troll's. :D

Funny, Esalen Institute is the Mother of the California New Age!

I love John Cleese. Nothing like a dead parrot scene or a cheese shop scene to bring one out of a deep depression!
 
John Cleese is probably one of the great comic geniuses of the late 20th Century. Esalen, on the other hand, is a pile of c***.
 
hedgewizard said:
John Cleese is probably one of the great comic geniuses of the late 20th Century. Esalen, on the other hand, is a pile of c***.

More info on Esalen, here...

http://www.esalen.org/info/general.shtml
The Esalen Institute was founded in 1962 as an alternative educational center devoted to the exploration of what Aldous Huxley called the "human potential," the world of unrealized human capacities that lies beyond the imagination. Esalen soon became known for its blend of East/West philosophies, its experiential/didactic workshops, the steady influx of philosophers, psychologists, artists, and religious thinkers, and its breathtaking grounds blessed with natural hot springs. Once home to a Native American tribe known as the Essalen, Esalen is situated on 27 acres of spectacular Big Sur coastline with the Santa Lucia Mountains rising sharply behind.

http://www.esalen.org/air/air.index.htm http://www.esalenctr.org :)
 
They lost me with the line about 'Jesus, aka "Brian"'.

Did they actually ever watch the film?

Cleese was/is/will have been running for Mayor of Santa Barbara, apparrently. Anyone heard anything?
 
John Cleese was at his height of talent during "Fawlty Towers". Since then he's seemed to be on the wane. "A Fish Called Wanda" was good, "Clockwise" wasn't bad and his role in "Rat Race" was alright but somehow a little embarrassing. I understand he makes quite a living producing corporate and safety films.

If he's discovered what he thinks is a way towards a happy and content life, then good luck to him. His talents live on in videos and re-runs but let's not expect too much of him now, shall we?

Oh - and a trivia point ...
I went to the school that his and ex-wife Connie Booth daughter went to. When he attended a parents day - at the height of "Fawlty Towers" fame, most of us were gob-smacked to see how damn tall he was! He managed to laugh graciously when the Head Boy accidentally gave him the name badge reading "Mr Fawlty"!
 
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