Mikefule
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Before I start: this post is about how one aspect of language shines a light on some bizarre historical attitudes to race. I would like to make a personal plea not to divert this into a more general discussion of race relations, particularly in regard to current or recent events. No politics, please. Thanks. I come here because it's a friendly place.
I have known of some of the following words for many years, but I was doing some reading yesterday and was startled by some new words I found.
This is not "Fortean" in the sense of being anomalous or unexplained but I feel that a lot of Fortean discussion these days is about the bizarre and irrational ways that human beings react to the normal and expected.
The concept of "colour" as an indicator of race is so crude as to be almost meaningless. That two people with different genetic, cultural, religious, and linguistic heritages, born on different continents, should be lumped together as "both white" or "both black" is plain stupid.
That said, it sadly remains the case that in many societies, "colour" is a useful statistical indicator of factors like probable levels of social status, wealth, education, and access to health care. This means that the terms black and white still convey some useful information, and most of us would not find them offensive — subject of course to tone and context. (Certain specific words used to describe colour are of course deeply offensive.)
There is an old word for a person with one white parent and one black parent: mulatto. There was even a feminine equivalent: mulatta. This is probably derived from Spanish, mulo, meaning hybrid — related to the word mule.
The concept of a mixed race person being called a hybrid is pretty offensive in itself, but I would go a step further and say it's awful that we felt, and still feel, the need to describe a mixed race person as something different in their own right: neither black nor white, almost as if they were neither fish nor fowl.
However, given the reality that mixed race people are often treated differently by both "communities" I can't deny that a neutral word or expression (such as mixed race) still has its legitimate uses.
But what about quadroon? Yes, there is an English word for someone who is 1/4 black.
And — worse still — there is also an English word, no longer in common use, for someone who is 1/8 black: octoroon.
The fact that there is a special word for someone who had 1 black great great grandparent (and 7 white great great grandparents) seems to me, somehow more offensive than having a word for mixed race. What rational person would differentiate in that level of detail?
I have known about quadroon and octoroon for many years, but yesterday I came across a new one: hexadecaroon. Yes, really.
Hexadecarooon was an English word for someone who is 1/16 black. The word defines a person by one ancestor from 5 generations ago!
A bit more reading found me the following words, although not from English:
However, to my mind, this is as "Fortean" as our discussion of conspiracy theorists, flat Earthers, weird sex, or dumb criminals. The very existence of these words — especially in the smaller ("homeopathic") fractions of 1/8. 1/16, and even 1/32 tells us something weird, irrational and, frankly, disturbing about humanity.
I have known of some of the following words for many years, but I was doing some reading yesterday and was startled by some new words I found.
This is not "Fortean" in the sense of being anomalous or unexplained but I feel that a lot of Fortean discussion these days is about the bizarre and irrational ways that human beings react to the normal and expected.
The concept of "colour" as an indicator of race is so crude as to be almost meaningless. That two people with different genetic, cultural, religious, and linguistic heritages, born on different continents, should be lumped together as "both white" or "both black" is plain stupid.
That said, it sadly remains the case that in many societies, "colour" is a useful statistical indicator of factors like probable levels of social status, wealth, education, and access to health care. This means that the terms black and white still convey some useful information, and most of us would not find them offensive — subject of course to tone and context. (Certain specific words used to describe colour are of course deeply offensive.)
There is an old word for a person with one white parent and one black parent: mulatto. There was even a feminine equivalent: mulatta. This is probably derived from Spanish, mulo, meaning hybrid — related to the word mule.
The concept of a mixed race person being called a hybrid is pretty offensive in itself, but I would go a step further and say it's awful that we felt, and still feel, the need to describe a mixed race person as something different in their own right: neither black nor white, almost as if they were neither fish nor fowl.
However, given the reality that mixed race people are often treated differently by both "communities" I can't deny that a neutral word or expression (such as mixed race) still has its legitimate uses.
But what about quadroon? Yes, there is an English word for someone who is 1/4 black.
And — worse still — there is also an English word, no longer in common use, for someone who is 1/8 black: octoroon.
The fact that there is a special word for someone who had 1 black great great grandparent (and 7 white great great grandparents) seems to me, somehow more offensive than having a word for mixed race. What rational person would differentiate in that level of detail?
I have known about quadroon and octoroon for many years, but yesterday I came across a new one: hexadecaroon. Yes, really.
Hexadecarooon was an English word for someone who is 1/16 black. The word defines a person by one ancestor from 5 generations ago!
A bit more reading found me the following words, although not from English:
- Sang-mêlé — mixed blood — used in Saint-Dominigue to mean someone who is 1/32 black. Yes, they had 1 black great great great great grandparent and 31 white ones.
- Sacatra Also from Saint-Dominigue, meaning someone who is 7/8 black: 1 white great grandparent, and 7 black ones.
- Marabou — a weird one this, from Saint-Dominigue: someone who is 5/8 black and 3/8 white. And yet most people can't even do vulgar fractions these days!
- Griffe (Saint-Dominigue) or Capre (Guadeloupe/Martinique) meaning someone who is 3/4 black, 1/4 white.
However, to my mind, this is as "Fortean" as our discussion of conspiracy theorists, flat Earthers, weird sex, or dumb criminals. The very existence of these words — especially in the smaller ("homeopathic") fractions of 1/8. 1/16, and even 1/32 tells us something weird, irrational and, frankly, disturbing about humanity.