John Nash & Aliens

Aug 18, 2002
It has been mentioned in passing but I was wondering if anyone had anymore more information on his belief that aliens were trying to communicate wih him:

When asked by a fellow mathematician how someone devoted to reason and logical proof could believe that aliens were sending him messages through the New York Times, he replied: "Because the ideas I had about supernatural beings came to me the same way that my mathematical ideas did. So I took them seriously."


During that period, Nash alternately claimed to be the Messiah, Job and a slave in chains. "He also declared himself governor of Antarctica," added Crowe. "This is a fellow who was getting messages from aliens through the New York Times…Though actually, you probably can get messages from aliens through the New York Times."


John Nash’s Aliens

The story of John Nash has been popularized by the movie and book, A Beautiful Mind. Nash is a Nobel Prize winning mathematician who suffered from paranoid schizophrenia. After coming up with most of his great mathematical discoveries, he suffered severe episodes of mental illness, dropping out the of society. At one point he began hallucinating, hearing voices talking to him. In this state he deduced that these voices were aliens trying to communicate with him.

To most of us, his conclusion seems bizarre and silly. It does reveal how the human mind works. In a situation beyond his comprehension and past experience (How would you react if, all of a sudden, you started hearing voices talking to you or started having visions?), he needed an answer for what was happening. While bizarre, the aliens conclusion logically matches his bizarre situation. It is not normal to hear voices in one’s head. So, when one starts hearing voices or having visions for the first time, normal day-to-day answers will not explain. It is expected and even logical that one will explain the abnormal with an abnormal answer. It is also is no coincidence that, either consciously or subconsciously, Nash picked an conceit that was and is a part of popular culture.

Years later, when he had largely recovered from his mental illness, Nash, the mathematical genius, was asked how he had come to the conclusion that Aliens were talking to him. Nash said that he came to conclusion in the same intuitive way that he came to the mathematical conclusions that won him the Nobel Prize.

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I was intrigued by the quote from him (in the first quote above).

I haven't see 'A Beautiful Mind' but I believe it is touched on there:

although pos. changing the weirder aspects:

*The movie portrays Nash imagining himself breaking Russian codes and being a heroic undercover agent for the government. But the book shows that his delusions were more often dominated by messages from extraterrestrials that were buried in newspapers, and by aliens who "recruited" Nash from outer space to save the world



Justified & Ancient
Jun 10, 2002
Well, being a materialist, he couldn't very well believe that God was talking to him,now could he?

The comment about the aliens appearing the same as his mathematical intuition is interestng. Maybe aliens were using him as an agent to save the world. :D Didn't his Nobel prize work basically turn the notion of economic competition upside down?

Basically, in the olden days, if you heard voices in your head it was God/the Devil/angels/deamons. These days, it's aliens/NWO mindcontrol beams. Just look at PKD.