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Mediums - what are they talking about?

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After watching a couple of Most Haunted - I became aware of some new terms that were being used to describe the various spirits old Del Boy was getting in touch with? But on earth was he talking about?

Can any one say what these mean?

(1) "He's Grounded"

(2) "She's on Visitation ..."

(3) "... from the Spirit Realm" (what like on a spirit weekend break??? ;) )

(4) "He's on a different Spirit Level from all the others"

(5) "Go towards The Light"

(6) "I'm picking up residual energies"

You answers apprieciated! Please add any that I may have missed.

Cheers

:D
 
He was spouting bollocks. As is his wont.
 
I've never quite understood all the talk about protective spirits--what are they protecting people from?!
 
He's probably also been watching 'Poltergeist' too much...
 
Never having seen the prog, and not being a Spiritualist meself, this will be approximate, but here goes:

'He's Grounded' - of a person, this probably means psychic energy raised for some purpose has been safely spent. Of a spirit, perhaps one who has been caught on the wrong side of the divide.

Honestly not sure.

'She's on visitation' - probably bollocks, or just an atrocious neologism found in places I don't go.

'...from the Spirit Realm' - from the world we cannot see

'...on a different spirit level...' - many Spiritualists believe ones spiritual status here will dictate ones level of manifestation there. Better you are here, the better your lot over there.

'go towards the light' - earthbound spirits are believed to be awaiting release. To pass into their proper place, they are believed to need to pass through a gateway of light (also recalled by NDE witnesses).

Also an appalling cliche.

'..residual energies..' - from what I gather his term for what Theosophists called the 'Akashic Records' - the astral database of thoughts, feelings and actions.

As I said, haven't actually seen the man in action, having a continent between me and his mincings. But it is entertaining watching others respond to him, and I would dearly love to see the 'legs' episode :)
 
"the residual" does seem to crop up quite a lot. I don't know what it means, but there does seem to be "medium-speak". I've heard whatsisname, Colin Fry, use similar terms. I suppose it's like plumbers and whatnot - they have trade terms which lay people don't understand.
 
(1) "He's Grounded"

He's not allowed to go out or see his mates.

(2) "She's on Visitation ..."

It's open day at the hospital, and everyone's welcome.

(3) "... from the Spirit Realm" (what like on a spirit weekend break??? ;) )

He's from Scotland, home of fine spirits.

(4) "He's on a different Spirit Level from all the others"

He was in the construction trade, and used different tools to everybody else. He's a bit over the limit too, after all that fine whisky.

(5) "Go towards The Light"

Some b***er turned out the lights in this room.

(6) "I'm picking up residual energies"

Ewww. Smell that smell...


Sorry, couldn't resist. It's all tosh to me. :D
 
Residual in his parlance refers to a spirit recording rather than an earthbound soul per se.
 
Just to start this off, I haven't posted for AGES! So hello to all.

I'll explain these from my understanding from Medium speak. (I'm no expert, but then again, niether is Derek) ;)


(1) "He's Grounded"

When a spirit is described as being grounded it usually means that it is trapped in that certain room or place in the house/castle whatever. Usually they have a reason to be grounded there, such as they were murdered there, or the like.

(2) "She's on Visitation ..."

Basically the opposite of the above. The spirit would have visited the place during their life and most probably a main/life changing event would have happened there which explains why they still visit in death. The spirit is not always there, unlike a grounded spirit.

(3) "... from the Spirit Realm" (what like on a spirit weekend break??? )

Does exactly what it says on the tin, the "Spirit Realm" is where the spirits reside.

(4) "He's on a different Spirit Level from all the others"

As far as I understand, the older a spirit is it will progress onto new levels of existance, but correct me if I'm wrong people, I'm not sure about that one.

(5) "Go towards The Light"

"The Light" is more than often described when someone is on the verge of death, or dying. It's another way of being at peace, it works the same way for spirits too. If they could fulfill their purpose in the spirit life they could go towards the light and move onto a new existance, possibly reincarnation if you believe in such thing.

(6) "I'm picking up residual energies"

Many believe the very fabric of a building can absorb energy and discharge it at a later date. Residual Energy is similar to this, Derek is "Picking up" on events that happened in the past.


Sorry the explanations are a bit vauge...but they should help.
 
EJR said:
Basically the opposite of the above. The spirit would have visited the place during their life and most probably a main/life changing event would have happened there which explains why they still visit in death. The spirit is not always there, unlike a grounded spirit.
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So where do they go after visiting hours??? ;)

Intressting idea of afterlife being able to go and visit where ever you fancy. Brill, you could span the hidden depths of the sea, or fly to the moon, or even see what spring looks like on jupitor and mars.
 
Many thanks everyone. I'm surprised there's never a mention of God / heaven and hell in all these spirtual shenanigans ... you'd think there would be because quite a lot of fuss is made of it here on earth ;)
 
Haha, that would be ironic. People die and find there is an afterlife, but there's no Heaven, Hell, God or Devil. :rolleyes:
 
Don't even get me started on the subject of God! We'll be here all day :eek:

In a sense, if your a true christian you shouldn't believe in in spirts becuase if you've been good you go to heaven, and if you've been bad (who hasn't) you go to hell and have red hot pockers shoved up your ass for all eternity by the impish servants of the goated one! :rolleyes:

We all know thats a load of rubbish though...if we believed in such things would we really be Forteans at all? :cool:

By the way DPL don't try to fix something unless it's broken ;)

Over and out...
 
This seems the best place to put this.

Has anyone been watching that programme on BBC2 about mediums?

I have and it is quite interesting. Most of the ones featured I can only descibe as charlatans, including the blind woman.

The programme has featured some really unfortunate people who cannot let go of their loved ones and so are constantly seeking the advice of mediums.

On last nights prog there was a guy who claims he had been possessed after reading a book about the Devil. It dawned on me that perhaps as he was brought up a Catholic his guilt at reading a book about the occult had overwhelmed him. Anyway the blind medium was seeing him for treatement for about 8 months (she sharges for her services, cyncical me :rolleyes:).

However, Gordon Smith is frighteningly good. I don't know if he is talking to the dead or is psychic, but he produces names and facts, not just the vague stuff the others come up with. What's more he provides his services free of charge.

Anyone else got any thoughts on this?
 
I can't remember which medium it was who said it on 'Talking to the dead' last night, but it was a classic. It went something like:

Medium: "I'm getting the image of a little dog."
Grieving Parents: "Yes! Yes! He always wanted one, but we never got him one."

Beautiful, just beautiful. So many levels of wrongness.
 
Atch said:
I can't remember which medium it was who said it on 'Talking to the dead' last night, but it was a classic. It went something like:

Medium: "I'm getting the image of a little dog."
Grieving Parents: "Yes! Yes! He always wanted one, but we never got him one."

Beautiful, just beautiful. So many levels of wrongness.
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That was Gordon Smith. I must admit that would make me feel bad, really bad, but at least it shows when you are dead you can have what you want on the other side.

Right I'd better start making a list......:D
 
Is Gordon SMith the scottish barber?
He does it for free doesnt he - which if he does must lend some credence to his abilities. I only saw the first episode, but he did seem very good - especially compared to the Irish woman - who, judging by both the one to one and the event at the theatre just seems to same random things until someone registers as a hit.
 
Yes Gordon Smith is the barber and he does work for free. The blind Irish woman just smacks of a charlatan. I think she uses her disability to make people believe in her.
 
I thought that it was interesting that his son & manager (who doesnt look young enough) doesnt believe in what he does.
 
If he could sell his secret for looking younger than his son he would be a rich man indeed.

Those 'trainee' mediums on the programme were rather pathetic though. The woman whose husband scoffed at her 'psychic' abilities came across as someone who just wanted to be 'special' and is in fact quite ordinary.
She was too frightened to go to bed in the old house. Mediums shouldn't be frightened. What a dopey moo.
 
Gordon Smith

I saw this "everyman" programme for the first time last night, and was also amazed by Gordon Smith.

I realise that the BBC may have edited lots of the extraneous / wrong stuff out but the scottish guy was a class act.

I mean he got:

a) All three names of the 2 living and 1 dead person right
b) The area they lived
c) The exact manner of the guys death
d) what his family have been doing (wearing and then removing the dead lad's watch, making the "gallery")

It was just too spooky. The blind Irish one I have to say i was less than impressed with. Again, maybe that was just the editing process.

Interesting stuff...
 
Talking to the Dead

I tried watching this, but must admit my attention wandered a bit. But I thought the section concerning the guy with the religous mother who had bought the book on the devil, and then found some malignant spirit had attached himself to him, and who then went to see a blind Irish medium, who sorted it out using her spirit team (but only after the guy and the medium had an argument about whether it was morally right to talk to the dead at all, and the medium got quite huffy) was quite, quite bizarre.

And was it in the Radio Times I read that the income generated from online mediums is second only to the income generated by porn sites? I suppose that figures - Sex and Death both being major human obsessions.
 
Now normally I'd dive in here with my very low opinion of 'mediums' & their ilk as charlatans who exploit the grief of others, but lately I've had cause to stop & think.

Let me recount.

Our close friends lost their tenth month old baby due to SIDS.

I thought I'd seen grief before but nothing prepared me for this.

The couple were destroyed & there's nothing one can say or do to make any of it better.

As supportive as we tried to be, things were going from bad to worse. I've never seen people in true despair & its something I don't want to see again.

The couple tried to have another baby to, hopefully, start their lives again but with no luck.

In desperation they went to see a medium.

A convoluted tale was related to them involving a white feather, a box of swan vestas & the paternal grandfather. Details aren't important but at exactly the time the medium predicted a series of events involving all the aforementioned items occurred & lo & behold there is a baby on the way.

Now I know all the cold reading tricks, coincidences & wish fulfilment that can occur in this situation & not for one minute do II think that anyone has spoken to the dead or that the dead have influenced lives in this world - but none of that matters.

Our friends believe it & the healing process seems to have begun.
 
Probably the wrong place for this, but anyway .

A child's birthday party. I went along to help the mother who was hosting the party. Children all in very well-fenced (*high* fence) yard, being supervised by several adults. I was helping the hostess in the kitchen. Looked out the kitchen windows and saw one of the children riding a tricycle up the road ! Hostess and I flew out to the road and retrieved the child, let's call her Simone. Not sure how she 'escaped'; possibly when the gate was opened to allow a child in to the party.

Hour later, Simone's mother arrived to collect her child. 'Has she been good?' she asked. Hostess and I gave each other a look, silently agreed not to worry the mother by telling her that her daughter had had a near escape on the road. So we said yes, Simone's been very well behaved and has had a lovely time.

The mother laughed and said thank goodness. She explained that she didn't often have a break and had taken advantage of the fact her daughter would be at the party, to visit a 'fortune teller' who'd been highly recommended to her. She said that while the fortune-teller was doing her stuff, she'd suddenly said to the young woman, 'Do you have a little girl? Is she wearing a fancy pink dress and is her hair in pig-tails tied with red ribbon?'. The young mother said yes, that's the way her daughter was dressed today, because she was at a birthday party.

Apparently the fortune teller said; ' Oh no she's not. She's peddling a little bicycle up the road'. At that point, the hostess and I decided to come clean, and told the mother about her daughter's escapade. The three of us were astounded that the fortune teller had been so accurate. In light of this, the young mother said it must be the only thing the fortune teller *had* managed to get right, because everything else she'd said had been a load of rubbish. For instance, she'd predicted the young mother would soon have a third child, also that her mother would not be with her by Christmas. The young mother said she'd told the fortune teller there was no possibility she'd have a third child, because she'd just broken up with her husband. The fortune teller had apparently assured her that she would have the child, also that she and her husband would soon reunite. As the young mother had been the one to end the marriage, she was certain the prediction would not be coming true.

Three months later, I bumped into the young mother at our children's school. I'd forgotten all about her trip to the fortune teller, and simply asked how she was going. She replied that she was pregnant (had been pregnant in fact when she went to the fortune teller, although she hadn't know it then). She had reunited with her husband. And had learned that her mother had a fatal condition. In fact, the mother did die a month before Christmas.

I actually met the fortune teller some time later, at the house of a friend. Learned she was an ex-model whose marriage had ended, leaving her with two young children to support. She'd had absolutely no knowledge of or interest in 'fortune telling' apparently, and had stumbled into it by chance after friends suggested she try it for fun after a couple of random remarks to others had come true. I asked her how she gained her information; did she hear voices, did she see visions, etc? She replied she had no idea; she just heard herself saying things to clients and afterwards many contacted her to say how accurate her predictions had been. The fortune teller said these days, she was learning to keep some things to herself; for instance, she'd been advised to never tell people directly of impending death (theirs or their loved ones) and that it was better not to tell people that their spouse was cheating.

The fortune teller was a stunning looking woman, but she was really empty headed. She couldn't maintain concentration on anything apart from her finger nails and hair. She was nothing like I'd imagined a psychic would be. Through friends, I learned a year or so later that her prices had risen from two dollars to forty dollars a session, and that the acting prime minister flew up from interstate quite regularly for a reading. By this time, her amazingly accurate readings had led, via word of mouth, to a very large client list, many of them celebrities. Having met the woman (who confessed she had no curiosity about where her predictions came from) I was forced to the conclusion that information finds the psychics, rather than the other way around. But, based on what I know of this particular psychic's accurate predictions, it appears that some people, in some way, have access to future events.
 
I wasn't impressed by that blind woman on the BBC show. One guy came along and said he was sceptical; cue loads of tears from said woman and afterwards the accusation that he was possessed by evil demons.

For Christ's sake, what a brilliant idea! Must try that in contract negotiations when we don't see eye to eye: accuse the others of being possessed. Got to be worth a try.
 
DPL said:
I wasn't impressed by that blind woman on the BBC show. One guy came along and said he was sceptical; cue loads of tears from said woman and afterwards the accusation that he was possessed by evil demons.

For Christ's sake, what a brilliant idea! Must try that in contract negotiations when we don't see eye to eye: accuse the others of being possessed. Got to be worth a try.
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But she's blind, she can't possibly be a con artist. :rolleyes:
 
Didn't see the blind-lady, but she probably works on the assumption that 'all of the people some of the time; some of the people all of the time', etc. People keep on doing what works, so it must have worked for her often enough ...
 
The funny thing is, I am more inclined to believe these people are psychic than that they are takling to the dead.

I know these in itself would be an unbelieveable claim, but many people would rather believe in an after life than accept a person as psychic. So perhaps being a 'medium' is just a way of presenting their true psychic mind reading abilities in a more acceptable form.
 
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