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Mince Pie Martians

Now, didn't those buggers have something to say about Bruce Forsyth or something?

Give us a twirl!
 
that picture looks like a Scooby-doo villain. Oh wait, it's the channel logo. :)

I've heard of this before. But a much more condensed version. IIRC there wasn't any evidence just a personal testimony in book form. I didn't read the whole thing just a summary.

It's a bizarre and surreal account. It's hard to evaluate this in any real meaning because it's so weird....
 
only just discovered this case whilst down a Youtube rabbit hole.

I find the whole thing insane and the woman's response to these beings makes it even more believable, I mean, it just feels like a natural baffled reaction of a lightly older person, someone who is sort of un-phased by the supernatural and kept an almost nonplussed British attitude to the whole scenario. like moaning at them for jumping on her sofa or showing them how to smoke and offering them a mince pie.


what do you all think? I think the sceptical reasoning is pretty weak on this also, I don't buy it's because she lived near a gas works and had visions from that.
 
SimonBurchell said:
Such a famous case! It is so bizarre, it is one of my favourites, one of the cases that shows that these encounters are not likely to be ET coming to visit.
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exactly, I was debating on where to post this because of that, but because the case is referred to as "Martians" I thought here would be best, I guess they could just be beings from another dimension, which, I suppose I'd maybe class as ET as it is a sentient life form from another place. unless of course they are from earth. - the thing I find most interesting about this case is the woman's reaction to the beings.
 

Incredibly, during the conversation they revealed a fondness for UK entertainer Tommy Steele and repeated Bruce Forsythe’s familiar “Nice to see you…” catchphrase!

https://www.spookyisles.com/mince-pie-martians/

I am not that into emojis, but:

:wtf::lolling::sbump:

:rollingw: etc....
Given the dog fainted and it was snowing outside I wonder if fumes from one of those portable gas heaters were involved?
 
Paul_Exeter said:
Incredibly, during the conversation they revealed a fondness for UK entertainer Tommy Steele and repeated Bruce Forsythe’s familiar “Nice to see you…” catchphrase!

https://www.spookyisles.com/mince-pie-martians/

I am not that into emojis, but:

:wtf::lolling::sbump:

:rollingw: etc....
Given the dog fainted and it was snowing outside I wonder if fumes from one of those portable gas heaters were involved?
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But how would that cause all the physical traces?
 
Paul_Exeter said:
Incredibly, during the conversation they revealed a fondness for UK entertainer Tommy Steele and repeated Bruce Forsythe’s familiar “Nice to see you…” catchphrase!

https://www.spookyisles.com/mince-pie-martians/

I am not that into emojis, but:

:wtf::lolling::sbump:

:rollingw: etc....
Given the dog fainted and it was snowing outside I wonder if fumes from one of those portable gas heaters were involved?
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Bruce Forsythe and mince pies - these things were British. I always wondered why this is usually referred to as a UFO close encounter and not a fairy encounter.
 
SimonBurchell said:
But how would that cause all the physical traces?
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Making literal sense of the encounter has provided a few fringe investigators with a fertile furrow to plough, notably the late Albert Budden who developed his “electro-staging hypothesis”, suggesting that a combination of natural but often rare electronic effects could induce mental episodes akin to epileptic seizures.

Maybe? I liked this closing comment:

On a very personal level the case remains a classic for this author, mainly because in years of talking to random groups about UFO cases I’m regularly struck by two things.

Firstly, the sincerity of people coming to report the most unusual events in their lives and secondly the odd collision in these reports between patterns familiar from the best-known UFO reports and highly unusual, often unique, details that often attach to individual stories.

If it was something alien, then perhaps it was malfunctioning alien AI that had done its research but not understood the context?

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@SimonBurchell agree, definitely fairy/fae folk rather than UFO in my opinion, too

A quick google reveals a common consensus that fairies like tobacco but hated fire and iron, so lighting the cigarette upset them and those tapes they wiped used iron.
 
Paul_Exeter said:
Incredibly, during the conversation they revealed a fondness for UK entertainer Tommy Steele and repeated Bruce Forsythe’s familiar “Nice to see you…” catchphrase!

https://www.spookyisles.com/mince-pie-martians/

I am not that into emojis, but:

:wtf::lolling::sbump:

:rollingw: etc....
Given the dog fainted and it was snowing outside I wonder if fumes from one of those portable gas heaters were involved?
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you'd think so! but that is just another layer of how mad this whole case is. I must admit when I heard this detail I burst out laughing. but, kind of like the fact these entities were Brucey fans. I'd be terrified if they were into Blobby though.
 
Paul_Exeter said:
Making literal sense of the encounter has provided a few fringe investigators with a fertile furrow to plough, notably the late Albert Budden who developed his “electro-staging hypothesis”, suggesting that a combination of natural but often rare electronic effects could induce mental episodes akin to epileptic seizures.

Maybe? I liked this closing comment:

On a very personal level the case remains a classic for this author, mainly because in years of talking to random groups about UFO cases I’m regularly struck by two things.

Firstly, the sincerity of people coming to report the most unusual events in their lives and secondly the odd collision in these reports between patterns familiar from the best-known UFO reports and highly unusual, often unique, details that often attach to individual stories.

If it was something alien, then perhaps it was malfunctioning alien AI that had done its research but not understood the context?

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@SimonBurchell agree, definitely fairy/fae folk rather than UFO in my opinion, too

A quick google reveals a common consensus that fairies like tobacco but hated fire and iron, so lighting the cigarette upset them and those tapes they wiped used iron.
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This makes it even better, the dog froze, they had a fag, necked a mince pie, froze the woman with a beam of light, done a bit of Bruce Forsyth, wrecked all of her tapes and disappeared.
 
Hengest said:
This makes it even better, the dog froze, they had a fag, necked a mince pie, froze the woman with a beam of light, done a bit of Bruce Forsyth, wrecked all of her tapes and disappeared.
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No. They were terrified when she lit up a cigarette and ran for the egg shaped craft.

So maybe they were travellers from the future? Although the taste in TV/entertainment is of the time.

I reckon she ate a mince pie that was laced with something. Who made these pies I wonder?
 
SimonBurchell said:
Again, this does not explain the physical traces.
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Physical traces of what? I read the article very quickly so I may have missed something....

I just googled. Apparently the craft left marks behind. And the tapes being wiped/things breaking.

I reckon there was a wiring problem with the tree lights and she got a shock....Maybe a fuse blew everything in the house that broke?
Any magnetic stuff that might wipe tapes? The mind boggles....

Or a gas leak causing hallucinations?

I have no idea.....I like the look of them though.
 
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"In this hypothesis fantasy experiences could easily be taken for conscious events. For him the Hingley case was strong evidence if only because of the collision of classic elements of an alien encounter alongside truly bizarre and personal elements – the Mince PieMartians remain the only alien (to admit to being) fans of Tommy Steele in UFO history."

That is literally - and I mean literally - one of the strangest few lines I have ever read!

And I've read a lot...
 
I would lean toward a fairy encounter rather than ET.

I hate that there never seems to be much investigation to what was happening with the woman. It sounds like she might have hallucinated.

Did she have any health issues such as seizures? Was she, perhaps, on a medication that may have affected her negatively? These might produce aural and visual hallucinations.

The light is described as very bright, blinding and painful. Did she suffer from migraines?

This site explains different symptoms that can accompany migraines:

https://psychcentral.com/health/migraine-hallucinations

Although visual auras are relatively common in migraine patients, they’re distinct from visual hallucinations.

Visual auras are simple visual disturbances like flashes of light or zig-zagging lines.

On the other hand, visual hallucinations are much more complex and include vivid images of people, animals, or objects that appear to actually exist. They generally arise from visual symptoms of auras.

Like olfactory hallucinations, visual hallucinations are very rare in migraine patients, according to a 2021 study. But the exact prevalence isn’t known. They’re primarily in patients with familial hemiplegic migraine, a rare type of inherited migraine that causes weakness in one side of the body.


It’s likely visual hallucinations during migraines are caused by a wave of brain activity that spreads across the visual cortex.

This causes the neurons in the visual cortex to “misfire,” which the brain interprets as seeing real people or other images when there are none.

Research statesTrusted Source that this same phenomenon could also cause visual symptoms of auras.

Migraines can also cause auditory hallucinations. These occur when a person hears sounds or voices that aren’t there
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Aural and visual hallucinations can be symptoms of migraines, according to the article.

The article also refers to hemiplegic migraine which is a rare hereditary form that causes weakness to one side of body. Was this what she was experiencing as "paralysis"?
 
brownmane said:
I would lean toward a fairy encounter rather than ET.

I hate that there never seems to be much investigation to what was happening with the woman. It sounds like she might have hallucinated.

Did she have any health issues such as seizures? Was she, perhaps, on a medication that may have affected her negatively? These might produce aural and visual hallucinations.

The light is described as very bright, blinding and painful. Did she suffer from migraines?

This site explains different symptoms that can accompany migraines:

https://psychcentral.com/health/migraine-hallucinations


Aural and visual hallucinations can be symptoms of migraines, according to the article.

The article also refers to hemiplegic migraine which is a rare hereditary form that causes weakness to one side of body. Was this what she was experiencing as "paralysis"?
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Again, if it happened as reported, it was not a purely subjective experience. The dog was paralysed, the electrics were fried, magnetic tapes ruined, and physical traces left in the snow. It is very easy to explain away individual parts of the encounter, but any explanation should encompass all of the physical effects as well.
 
SimonBurchell said:
Again, if it happened as reported, it was not a purely subjective experience. The dog was paralysed, the electrics were fried, magnetic tapes ruined, and physical traces left in the snow. It is very easy to explain away individual parts of the encounter, but any explanation should encompass all of the physical effects as well.
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I am not saying that things didn't happen. I was just saying what I would like to see in an investigation.

The dog being paralyzed could have been part of the hallucination, if that had been a possibility.

I still say it was more of a fairy encounter.
 
brownmane said:
I am not saying that things didn't happen. I was just saying what I would like to see in an investigation.

The dog being paralyzed could have been part of the hallucination, if that had been a possibility.

I still say it was more of a fairy encounter.
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Bloody fairies. Paralysing our dogs and stealing our mince pies. What's the world coming to.
 
Earthly oddity said:
No. They were terrified when she lit up a cigarette and ran for the egg shaped craft.

So maybe they were travellers from the future? Although the taste in TV/entertainment is of the time.

I reckon she ate a mince pie that was laced with something. Who made these pies I wonder?
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they were scared of the lighter, but came back and she showed them what smoking was.

she was obviously at ease with them as she told them off for jumping on her sofa.

also, she made the mince pies, which they took away with them. - might not have been ET but something definitely happened, like others have said the physical traits cant be explained away and the dog and stuff. the whole thing is mad, I also like her husband's response of "get your hair done" to her.
 
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