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Moths Alive!

Melf

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http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story.jsp?sectionid=1260&storyid=992663 (with picture)


Moth is lord of the wings

By SIMON BENSON Environment Editor

March 5, 2004

GEORGE Hurst's first thought was "it's a flying mouse". It was only on closer inspection that he realised he had no idea what it was at all.


"It scared me. I was cleaning out the shed and I thought it was a snake. Then I saw its head which looked like a mouse," he said.

"So I called WIRES and they said 'Are you sure it's not a bat?' And I said 'It's no bat'."


What Mr Hurst encountered was a rare giant wood moth in his backyard at Hebersham on Wednesday.


And Mr Hurst's find was indeed extraordinary. Regarded as the world's heaviest and largest moth, the giant wood moth is rarely ever seen across Sydney.


It is also what becomes of a species of witchetty grub.


That it managed to fly into Mr Hurst's backyard near Mt Druitt was even more extraordinary.


Due to their size the moths are not great at flying and would not stray far from their home.


Entomologists think that some remnant pieces of bushland in western Sydney may still harbour some refuges for the moth.


"But you would be lucky to see one once in your lifetime," said Australian Museum collection manager for entomology David Britton.


The giant wood moth is a member of the family cossidae which has 86 species found in Australia.


"You would seem some of the smaller ones around but to see one that size is quite rare," Mr Britton said. "The females can be gigantic and are quite heavy."


With a wingspan of more than 15cm and a body length of about 12cm the largest can weigh as much as 30g.


So little is known about the life cycles of the moths and their larvae because they can live as long as six years in the ground – much like cicadas. Early indigenous people never associated the witchetty grub with the moth.


As moths, they rarely live for more than a few days. Today the moth will be taken to the Australian Museum.

(c) the daily telegraph (australia?) 04

(wow ive actually transposed something from the headline of the front page of ftmb :yeay: )
 
*shudder* I can just imagine that thing crawling along a shelf in the shed... :eek:
The thought of it actually flying around you is just too hideous a thought to even contemplate. Weird that nature would create some flying creature that is actually too heavy to fly far. Maybe it's slowly evolving into some other horrific kind of creature!

Ok, I'll stop now before I scare myself... :eek:
 
I went on a little search and found this page (scroll down to the bottom). Lovely little critter, right? I'm so glad we don't have them in Europe...

Funny, the page mentions they're quite a pest in some parts of Australia. So it can't be that rare...
 
If one of those things came flying at me I think I'd die on the spot.

Just looking at the picture makes me go cold inside.

<shudder>
 
Yikes! :eek:

But I'd still nominate our 14cm Polyphemus as 'scariest thing to find fluttering around your porch light'.
 
naitaka said:
Yikes! :eek:

But I'd still nominate our 14cm Polyphemus as 'scariest thing to find fluttering around your porch light'.
Beautiful pic, Naitaka. How can you dislike a creature with the eye of Horus on it's wings?

I love moths, I think they're incredibly beautiful. With all that fur, they're like some cross between mammal and insect.
 
There were a number of (depending on one's point of view) cool/scary moth pics posted on the MEGA-MOTH thread in IHTM last year.
 
I honestly think those moths are absolutely beautiful. I wouldn't mind if one landed on me. :p When I was a kid my dad told me a story about how there were HUGE moths in the backyard, oversized due to a nuclear spill (I think. It was some sort of accident that made them REALLY BIG, like a foot across.) Kind of sad, really.
 
an apparent spate of unprecedented large moth appearances

To all:

In examining the nature of the enigmatic, it can be helpful to be willing to relate various occurrences, and take conclusions from them.

It seems to be becoming at least a minor trend, on the Fortean Times forum, to comment on apparently unusually large moths. This isn't so much to say that the moths are particularly big for their species, but, rather, that they represent types that, previously, had never been seen in certain areas, before.

In the Cryptozoology section, for example, melf recounts the run-in between a resident of Sydney and the wood moth, the largest moth species in the world. It was asserted that the moth is rarely, at best, seen. The mega-moth thread, mentioned in melf’s thread also lists some more or less recent occurrences of large moths.

In fact, unusually large moths seem more and more to be making an appearance. I also had a thread I started, concerning, apparently, a Polyphemus moth I saw in Grover Cleveland Park, in West Caldwell, New Jersey. It was during the day, and the moth seemed shaky. It was suggested that it may just have been hatched. But this is the first time I had seen this moth, ever. Several web sites indicate that this breed of moth is “common” throughout the eastern part of the United States, but this is the first time I had seen this moth! Some try to suggest, it seems, that the reason many find these moths so alarming is that they usually travel by night, and, because of that, people don’t usually see them. But I take walks, and have been out, many times, at night. I imagine many, including those for whom these moths are strange, also spend a certain amount of time out, at night. I would have seen this moth, if it was around. I suspect many others would, too.

It seems to me that these moths are actually only starting to become prevalent, and web sites that describe some as “common” are trying to convince people that they shouldn’t trust their sense, and should allow themselves to be hoodwinked into believing that they actually saw them, all along!

A reason for this can tie in with another thread I began, related to the evident spate of alien big cat sightings in many parts of the world. Those sightings I ascribe to the approaching condition of “lions in the streets”, what is supposed to be an ancient sign of societal disaster. If moths, particularly big ones, are becoming more common, one might look into any symbology behind the moth. In fact, in many cultures, the moth has a very distressing reputation. In Eastern Europe and Russia, for example, vampires are supposed to travel often, disguised as moths. Moths, it seems, have also been considered by many to be associated with insanity and even death. If this evident increase in sighting of big moths is to be considered, in that way, it may be an echoing of the sighting of big cats, namely, a warning of an impending societal catastrophe!

For those who may look at this askance, simply because they don’t want to credit the impossibility of a coming tragedy, they should bear in mind, too, that fore-warned is fore-armed! Just because there are warnings of serious times, doesn’t mean they have to happen!

After all, would God post warnings of a catastrophe just to let you know it’s coming, or to encourage you to do something about it?

It may only have to do with the make-up of most of those on the Fortean Times forum, but most of the moth accounts, like most of the big cat accounts seem to come from the United States or England or English colonies. The cat accounts, however, are backed up by newspaper reports, and those don’t seem to emanate from other than the United States, England, Canada or Australia. Newspapers don’t print moth stories, for the most part, so indications of that form, of the spread of sightings, are, at best, sparse. Any other accounts of striking encounters with anomalously large moths could be helpful.



Julian Penrod
 
Julian - I see plenty of Polyhemus, Luna, and other large bizarre-looking moths by me during the summer. Have for as long as I can remember. I rarely see them fly and only at night as far as I can recall. I usually see them during the day when they are either on the ground or hanging from a wall and they are very often shakey as you described (I always took this to mean that they are dying, since I rarely see a flying one and if you poke them they barely budge). The southern half of New Jersey is in the Humid Subtropical climate zone. The northern half is Humid Continental. I live next to the woods so I imagine I see more of them than someone living in the suburbs would.
 
Perhaps julianpenrod's & Bannik's giant moth encounters could be a result of living in the general geographic vicinity of Janet Marinelli, the Moth Garden Lady.




Moths—Luring Exquisite Giant Silk Moths to Your Garden
Plants & Gardens News Volume 13, Number 2 | Summer 1998
by Janet Marinelli

Late one summer night when I was nine or ten, nose buried in a Nancy Drew book (instead of my pillow), I was startled by a loud thump at my window screen. Another thump. Some murderer or monster, no doubt! I was too scared to look. Finally, I snuck a peek. Silhouetted against the inky blackness outside my window was neither criminal nor alien, but rather the most captivating creature I'd ever seen—large, with sea-green wings and long, streamerlike tails.

This chance encounter proved an indelible memory. Today, the garden at my Shelter Island summer house is designed with plants to lure the nocturnal visitor, the lovely Luna Moth.

Luna Moth

Our Shelter Island patio, where my husband Don and I picnic on balmy days, brushes up against a butterfly garden we planted at the edge of the surrounding coastal forest. In keeping with the wild character of the site, this garden is a diminutive meadow. In early spring it's a wash of pastel purple when the birds-foot violet blooms, echoed by the iridescent flashes of tiny Eastern Tailed Blues, the first signs of butterfly activity. On the other side of the patio, the butterfly garden continues in a dampish area. Here we put a border of wetland bloomers, including Joe-pye weed, which waves its seven-foot-tall, butterfly-laden flowerheads in the late summer sun.

But the real excitment begins at dusk. As the sun sinks over Shelter Island Sound, the nighttime chorus of frogs and insects commences, the butterflies flee to their roosting spots, and Don and I pull up a chair, flashlights in hand, and wait for their nocturnal kin—the moths—to take flight, cloaked by the cover of darkness.
Creatures of the Night

Butterflies, which get all the good press, account for only about 765 of the more than 11,000 species in the order Lepidoptera found north of the Mexican border. The remainder are moths. These poor critters have gotten a bum rap—only a tiny percentage of species eat their way through prized plants or priceless woolens.

It's true that most moths are small, mousey brown jobs only an entomologist could love. However, some have spots, bands of color, and graceful shapes to rival those of any butterfly. They're so like butterflies, in fact, that often the only way non-scientists can tell the two apart is to look at the antennae: Butterflies have threadlike antennae with a tiny knob at the tip, while those of most moths are plumed or downright feathery. Male moths use their fluffy antennae to catch the scent of females on the night air.

Like butterflies, moths go through a metamorphosis of several stages, the most familiar being the caterpillar, or larva, and the adult. All night long, mature moths search for mates or flit from flower to flower. Some, like butterflies, sip nectar from blossoms. Flowers that attract moths often have a long, tubular throat to accommodate the creatures' lengthy proboscis. Three or four inches is the norm, but one African orchid with 18-inch spurs is visited by a moth with a tongue at least as long! While the flower is serving the moth its supper, the moth is returning the favor: Nectar-feeding species are major pollinators, absolutely essential to some plants.
Moth Gardens
Nectar Plants

* Chrysothamnus nauseosus, C. viscidiflorus, Rabbit-brushes
* Epilobium angustifolium, FireweedHeliotropium arborescens, Common heliotrope
* Ipomopsis aggregata, Scarlet gilia
* Ipomopsis rubra, Texas-plume
* Lilium candidum, Madonna lily
* Lonicera periclymenum, Woodbine honeysuckle
* Matthiola bicornis, Night-scented stock
* Mirabilis jalapa, Four-o'clock, marvel-of-Peru
* Nerium oleander, Oleander
* Nicotiana species, Night-blooming nicotianas
* Oenothera species, Evening primroses
* Petunia x hybrida, Common garden petunia
* Phlox species, Phlox
* Saponaria officinalis, Bouncing bet
* Syringa vulgaris, Common lilac
* Trachelospermum difforme, Climbing dogbane
* Yucca filamentosa, Yucca (yucca moths only)

Caterpillar Plants for Some Giant Silk Moths

* Cecropia: Silver maple, wild cherry, oak, sassafras, gray birch, dogwood
* Luna: Hickory, maple, persimmon, sweetgum, birch, oak, alder, beech
* Polyphemus: Oak, hickory, maple, birch, willow
* Promethea: Wild cherry, spicebush, maple, ash, basswood, tulip tree, sweetgum, birch, sassafras

There's a world of difference between flowers that strut their stuff by day and those that entice creatures of the night. Not surprisingly, blossoms that lure day-flying butterflies rely on visual appeal and usually come in bright colors. Those that attract nocturnal moths are typically glowing white or the palest green or yellow, and have a strong perfume. The fragrance of these flowers can be powerful. J.H. Lovell, inThe Flower and the Bee, recounts an experiment in which a moth was released 900 feet from a favored species. The creature made a beeline for the plant, a honeysuckle with intensely fragrant blooms.

Among the most fascinating nectar-sipping moths are the hawk or sphinx moths. These are some of the fastest fliers of the lepidopteran world. The wings of the adults are narrow, and their bodies are stout but streamlined, tapering to a point. Hawk moths hover over flowers with rapid wingbeats, like those of birds, as they probe the blossoms with their long probosces. One particularly striking species is the white-lined sphinx, with bold white or yellow diagonal stripes on its forewings and rose-colored bands on its underwings. Searching our Shelter Island garden with flashlights on summer nights never fails to produce a hawk moth or two hovering over the potted petunias.

Some of the most ravishing species are the giant silk moths, including the Cecropia, Polyphemus, and Promethea, as well as the Luna. In North America, these are among the biggest night-flying insects. In colors ranging from intense browns to bright oranges to luminous greens, the wings of these beautiful moths are accented by bright eyespots designed, scientists believe, to startle predators. Some species, such as the Luna, have incredibly long hind wings that trail behind them in flight. Sadly, the lifespan of the adults is fleeting: Because they lack mouthparts, they cannot feed, and live a few short days, just long enough to mate.

The only way to lure giant silks to your garden is to grow plants favored by their larvae. Lucky for Don and me, the oak forest that covers most of our property includes many of these moth magnets: sassafras, wild cherry, birches, blueberries, dogwood. That's probably why we've been fortunate to spot several species, including the spectacular Cecropia—the giant among this family of enormous moths, with a wingspan of six inches.

One of the great Cecropia stories can be found in Gene Stratton Porter's 1912 book, Moths of the Limberlost. One evening in mid-May, she wrote, "all the world white with tree bloom, touched to radiance with brilliant moonlight, intoxicating with countless blending perfumes," she put a female Cecropia on her bedroom window screen to beguile members of the opposite sex, then dozed off. (Some moth fanatics outfit the females with dainty harnesses made of thread and tether them to tiny cages outdoors!) After midnight Porter awoke to "soft touches on the screen" and went outside to find the night sky alive with lovesick Cecropias: "From every direction they came floating like birds down the moonbeams...I could feel them on my hair, my shoulders, and see them settling on my gown and outstretched hands." All night long Porter "revelled with the moths until dawn drove them to shelter."

Don and I have yet to experience a moth encounter quite like that. In fact, we're still waiting for a Luna to show up in our yard. But we have gotten to know many other nocturnal creatures. That's part of the charm of gardening with nature—the constant discovery and pleasure that comes as new worlds on the periphery of human life unfold.

Brooklyn Botanic Garden Director of Publishing Janet Marinelli is editor of BBG's renowned series of quarterly gardening handbooks and the author of Your Natural Home and The Naturally Elegant Home. Janet is a champion of the gardener's role in the preservation of the planet, a philosophy that informs her P&G News column, "Down to Earth." It's a philosophy that also serves as the bedrock for her book, Stalking the Wild Amaranth: Gardening in the Age of Extinction. In Stalking the Wild Amaranth, Janet tells of her quest for a landscape art that protects disappearing species, both flora and fauna. It's a gardening journey marked by humor—ecologically sensitive gardening needn't be a dreary affair, Janet insists. "We can do our part," she says, "and still have flair and fun."

1000 Washington Avenue, Brooklyn NY 11225 · 718-623-7200 ·
Copyright © 2004 BBG |

http://www.bbg.org/gar2/topics/wildlife/1998su_moths.html

Also:


Moth Gardens' Show Begins at Night

By DEAN FOSDICK
For The Associated Press

NEW MARKET, Va. — Anyone working the night shift knows it can be an out-of-sight, out-of-mind kind of experience. You sleep when you can and socialize as you can. And so it is with many insects, like the much-maligned moth.

The moth is primarily a creature of the night — seldom noticed, therefore little regarded when compared with its more visible daytime cousin, the butterfly.

Butterflies seem to reap the glory although moths do as much, if not more, to help your garden grow.

Moths transfer pollen from flower to flower; some produce silk and still others add dramatic splashes of color to your yard provided you don't mind seeking them out in the darkness.

All that disrespect exists despite the population dynamics — moths greatly exceed butterfly species in the order Lepidoptera. "In North America, about 750 butterfly species are recognized and about 10,500 moth species," says John Snyder, a biology professor at Furman University in Greenville, S.C.

Some adult moths are as small as mosquitoes while others grow larger than bats, wingtip to wingtip. "The vast majority are small or brownish-gray in color," Snyder says. "But others are not. Some are gorgeous animals. I've seen virtually every color of moth."

Butterfly gardens are the rage, nationwide, but when was the last time you were invited to tour a moth garden?

"It's not the conventional way to garden, so I don't know many people who do," says Janet Marinelli, director of publications for the Brooklyn Botanic Garden in New York. "Other than me, of course."

Marinelli is an equal opportunity Lepidoptera gardener. She plants flowers for both butterflies and moths. But while butterflies are attracted primarily to colors, moths respond more strongly to fragrances.

"Basically, there are some general rules about such things as moth gardens," Marinelli says. "Most moths fly at night so luminous light (colored) or luminous green flowers attract them. Also flowers with a great scent. People doing studies have discovered moths cover an amazing distance following odors."

More than 900 yards, actually.

If you want adult moths frequenting your yard, then you might try cultivating plants considered appetizing by their offspring — so-called larvae plants.

"Giant silk moths don't eat at all as adults," Marinelli says. "They just live to mate. The larval stage is usually where they do the (leaf) cutting.

"The same with butterflies: The adults just go around looking beautiful. Caterpillars do all the munching."

Despite the garden good they can do, moths are not without their critics. Need I mention the liberal use of mothballs by the world's wool sock collective? Still, Snyder believes much of that criticism is undeserved.

"For all their great numbers, moths turn out very, very few pests," he says. "Only a few hundred (species) concern the agricultural entomologists in that they'll attack crops.

"The vast majority eat only what we call weeds. Virtually every species of plant will attract moths or their larvae."

Most gardeners seem to favor attracting sphinx or hawk moths, the giant silkworm or royal moths or the tiger moth varieties.

Sphinx moths (Family Sphingidae) grow medium to large with elongated forewings. Their bodies tend to be thick and they usually have a long proboscis — what biologists call "a drinking straw kind of tongue" — enabling them to draw nectar from deep-throated flowers.

An example includes the hummingbird clearwing moth which, because of its size, darting flight patterns and ability to hover, often is mistaken for its namesake bird.

Silkworm moths (Family Saturniidae) also run medium to large, have prominent antennae and thick bodies covered with hairlike scales, Snyder says. Luna, Polyphemus and Chinati sheepmoths are among the silkworm color guard.

Tiger moths (Family Arctiidae) are frequently bright in color, with distinctive markings on their wings and body.

The Black-edged Prominent and Great Tiger moth are noteworthy members of this family. Flowers favored by moths include four o'clocks (Mirabilis Jalapa), blazing stars (Mentzelia lindleyi), flowering tobacco (Nicotiana alata), night blooming jasmine (Cestrum nocturnum) and narrowleaf evening primrose (Oenothera fruticosa). All are fragrant and all are nocturnal bloomers.

Certain plants have proven to attract both butterflies and moths, notably lilacs, viburnum, phlox, vincas, petunias, blackberry and thistles.

"As long as they're open day and night and contain nectar," Marinelli says.

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On the Net:

For more about butterflies, moths and moth gardens, click on this Furman-maintained Web site: http://alpha.furman.edu/(tilde)snyder/snyder/lepinternet.html

For more about the moths of North America, see the U.S. Geological Survey's Northern Prairie Wildlife Research Center: http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/resource/distr/lepid/moths/mothsusa.htm

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June 9, 2004 - 1:56 p.m.

Copyright 2004, The Associated Press.



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This pretty little thing just flew through my window, any idea what it is?
 
Pete Younger said:
This pretty little thing just flew through my window, any idea what it is?

Pete, I'm pretty lousy at the whole field guide identifying thingie, but if peeps are stumped and can't nail it down for you, you might try http://www.ukmoths.force9.co.uk/

Thumnail index, search, ID keys, lots of illustrations.

It is a pretty one. Good luck. :)
 
Thanks Lopa, interesting site, I think this is the closest..
The Goldwing Synthymia fixa.
 
I think it's a Scorched Wing - this photo isn't brilliant, but the illustration in my "Field Guide to the Moths of Great Britain and Ireland" looks more like it.
 
CallMeKenneth said:
I think it's a Scorched Wing - this photo isn't brilliant, but the illustration in my "Field Guide to the Moths of Great Britain and Ireland" looks more like it.

Yes, thats the one I'm sure, thanks.
 
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