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Multiple Separate Anomalies Occuring On The Same Day

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I'd like to start a thread for specific dates on which two or more separate Fortean and Paranormal events have occurred - be they ghosts, UFOs, "old hags" cryptozoological beasties, demonic encounters, fairy sightings, Mothmen, Yetis, time glitches and so on. [For various reasons, primarily logistical, I think we should avoid major UFO flap periods, unless of course there are other, non-UFO accounts from those specific days.]

My own favorite date in this context is August 21, 1955. On the afternoon of that day Mrs. Darwin Johnson claimed that she had been attacked by a greenish-skinned river monster as she swam in the Ohio River near Evansville, Indiana.

Later that same evening the Sutton farm near Hopkinsville was reportedly attacked by a small army of monkey-like but silver-clad entities. (The Kentucky encounter continued until the early morning hours of August 22nd.)

Interestingly enough, the two locations are not very far apart - right across the toe of the Kentucky "slipper."

I believe that this can be an interesting and productive thread, augumented by Google's ability to track down material by dates.
 
Not a UFO flap as such, but two very strange possible UFO encounters occurred more or less on the same day, IIRC -

Rendlesham Forest in England, and the incident in the US (Texas?) where three women in a car witnessing a flaming UFO escorted by black helicopters. (The women later showed signs of having been exposed to radiation.)

I don't have time right now to hunt out the details, but I'm sure someone else can oblige.
 
Hi, Rynner.

I was going to list both these two episodes - Rendlesham in England and Cash-Landrum (also known as "The Pineywoods Case") - last evening, since I'd often read that they both transpired on the same day.

But on checking I discovered that the events at Rendlesham occurred on the nights of December 27 and 28, 1980, and Cash-Landrum not until the evening of December 29th. And by the time Cash-Landrum took place it was already December 30th in England.

That's close, but no cigar.

However, DID anything unusual transpire at Rendlesham on December 29th, or did the Rendlesham sighting of December 28th extend into the 29th? If so, we may salvage this connection yet.

P. S. The three Cash-Landrum witnesses were two adult women and a 10-year-old boy. Another witness surfaced later, a man who'd seen the helicopters racing towards the sighting area but he did not see the UFO itself.

Rynner, you may have confused the Cash-Landrum encounter with the Stafford, Kentucky, enigma from the 1970s, in which three mature women, respectable society ladies, claimed to have been abducted together by a UFO. It's one of the strongest abduction cases.
 
OldTimeRadio said:
Rynner, you may have confused the Cash-Landrum encounter with the Stafford, Kentucky, enigma from the 1970s, in which three mature women, respectable society ladies, claimed to have been abducted together by a UFO. It's one of the strongest abduction cases.
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No, Cash-Landrum it was. (No abduction involved.)

Thanks for the dates. I still think it's odd that two of the strangest and potentially strongest sightings occured so close in time.
 
Another post has reminded me that the Cumberland Spaceman pic was taken at the same time as some strangeness down under, at the Woomera rocket range.

Thread on CS here:
forteantimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5003

The current URL for the Cumberland Spaceman thread is:

https://forums.forteana.org/index.php?threads/cumberland-spaceman.5003/

No time to trawl through for more details (not all the links now work).

(FWIW, I don't think there's anything anomalous about the photo anyway, and that the true explanation was uncovered in the thread, so that knocks out one leg of this pairing!)
 
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Loren Coleman's "Mysterious America" is a great place to start. Many things which correspond to either each other or the times when they take place, can be found here.

I used to think that I was alone searching for a "Unified, Fortean, Theory", but apparently Coleman and Sanderson were far ahead of me. They have sought to connect the dots where one Fortean situation begets another. Maybe Email Coleman about this.

It would seem that some Events, like out-of-place-animals, MIB's, and whatnot are somehow connected. That maybe, there is some sort of juxtaposing link between alot of these things.

UFO sightings, Mothman, strange Humanoids, etc.

Then, again, maybe I'm just full of shit.
 
I think a very good way to start will be to take any DATED paranormal encounter, enter that date into Google or Copernic.Com (using first the Continental and afterwards the American form of the date), then adding + paranormal, or + Fortean, or + supernatural, or + ghost/s, or + UFOs, or + mystery and so on.

For those of us possessing lengthy runs of FATE magazine (I have 98 of the first 100 issues, starting from 1948) it would be wise to do the same thing with dated stories appearing in "True Mystic Experiences" and "My Proof of Survival," in the letters columns and most especially the several decades' worth of the late Curtis Fuller's invaluable "I See by the Papers" columns.
 
August 4, 1577

On Sunday, August 4, 1577, the town church in Bungay, Suffolk, was hit by lightning which not only destroyed the clock machinery in the tower but struck a man working on the roof gutters, knocking him to the ground (he survived).

At the same time a large Black Dog appeared inside the church. The dog brushed past two kneeling worshippers, killing them instantly by its mere touch. Another congregant seems to have been left as shrivelled up as the traditional prune but he did not die.

News arrived later that day that just a few minutes previous to the Bungay episode the same dog or its demonic litter-mate had entered Blythburgh Church, around seven miles away. The dog had "blasted" the congregation, killing three members - two men and a boy.

It's been suggested that these were both ball lightning "attacks" - but why would multiple witnesses in two separate localities describe ball lighting as a Black Dog?
 
There were two rather odd Close Encounters on Nov 6, 1957 - those of John Trasco and Everett Clark. In both cases, Ufonauts attempted to procure a dog, and in both cases they failed. Why this sudden interest in our four-legged friends?

Perhaps it is significant that only 3 days earlier the Russians had launched Laikainto orbit. Make of that what you will.

The encounters are covered in Jacque Vallee's Dimensions, or you can find my own summary here: An Alien at the Door.
 
graylien said:
There were two rather odd Close Encounters on Nov 6, 1957 - those of John Trasco and Everett Clark. In both cases, Ufonauts attempted to procure a dog, and in both cases they failed. Why this sudden interest in our four-legged friends? Perhaps it is significant that only 3 days earlier the Russians had launched Laika into orbit.
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Ah, yes, Laika the dog. Really fits here.

If I remember correctly, young Clark in Tennessee reported that the UFOnauts who attempted to capture his dog moved like German soldiers in war movies (I assume this meant goose-stepping. )

This was less than a full day day after Reinhold Schmidt claimed he'd had an encounter with a saucer full of entities who spoke High German, and I don't believe this Nebraska tale had yet hit the news at the time of Clark's adventure.

But the main reason I didn't list these sightings earlier is that they occurred during a well-known "flap" period, where there are bound to be multiple reports whether we want 'em or not.

However, at the time (I'd just turned 16) I thought there was an odd pattern emerging here:

Encounter one: Germans;

Encounter two: Germans / dog nappers.

Encounter three: Dog nappers.

I afterwards tried to see if I could find similar patterns within other sequential UFO encounters but without success.

If I may be forgiven a November, 1957, joke quite popular in the States at that time - "The Russians are planning on sendim\ng 25 cows into space. It's going to be known as 'the herd shot around the world.'" (Pun on "The shot heard around the world," from the Battle of Lexington Green, the real opening skirmish of the American Revolution.)
 
Clark was reported as stating that the entities were "talking like German soldiers he had seen in movies". A rather ambivalent quote, but I assumed he meant that they were speaking in a foreign (or alien) tongue rather than that they were literally speaking German. I believe there are quite a few cases of aliens making very guttural sounds, which could sound a bit German from a distance I suppose.
 
graylien said:
Clark was reported as stating that the entities were "talking like German soldiers he had seen in movies". .
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Are you certain? I remember the original news accounts and am fairly certain that Schmidt said that his UFOnauts spoke "High German" while Clark reported that his visitors WALKED like Germans. I assumed (at the time) that this meant that their legs didn't bend at the knees.

I also remember other members of my family reading the same news accounts and that we afterwards discussed this weird "walk." I've also numerous times discussed the "walk" with other UFOlogists down the intervening decades.

I'll check this out. You could well be right and me wrong (though it's difficult for me to believe that I've continued to mis-read this for fully 50 years). Or this may even be one of those weird "shift" siutations which so plague paranormal researchers.
 
Graylien. you are absolute correct and I am absolutely wrong - in THIS timeline. Everett Clark's aliens did not WALK like Germans. They TALKED like Germans, as you said.

But to me this only heightens the mystery. That the Tennessee visitors WALKED like Germans (that is, in a stiff-legged goose-stepping manner) is something I've not only read many times (before this evening!) but discussed at length with fellow Paranormalists. We talked about what this might indicate concerning alien physiology. One of them, in fact, actually began a novel about "goose-stepping Martians" and how they came to speak German. (A retired 19th Century Prussian general-turned-inventor had invented a spaceship and conquered Mars.)

We even had a little joke that "Schmidt's UFOnauts TALKED like Germans and Clark's WALKED like them." Had we realized that both sets of aliens TALKED like Germans it would surely have been grist for our mill.

So I'm just hopelessly confused.

P. S. If Schmidt's account is sincere and accurate (there's some question about that), his visitors DID speak High German, since Schmidt was fluent in the language.
 
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