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Natural Cures "They" Don't Want You To Know About

Mighty_Emperor

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Is he really suggesting that not only is it not in the interests of teh medical establishment not not help you gt well but to actually make you sick?

And I can't believe a convicted conman has made so much money out of this!!! Esp. with such dangerous advcie

'America's foremost consumer advocate'

For the sake of your health, avoid the snake-oil billionaire who has grown rich exploiting America's poor

John Sutherland
Monday August 29, 2005
The Guardian

America loves "how to" books. Typically they are about how to be a better American: richer, thinner, happier, sexier, and more beautiful. For the past few weeks the how-to charts have been headed by a book which has provoked more controversy than anything since The Anarchist's Cookbook instructed America's disaffected youth how to make Molotov cocktails.

Kevin Trudeau's book, Natural Cures "They" Don't Want You To Know About, offers, for a mere $25 (£14), "natural cures for more than 50 specific diseases" - including cancer, heart disease, bad breath, gout, male erectile dysfunction, obesity, dandruff, multiple sclerosis and gloom.

Buy this book, Trudeau promises, and "never get sick again". That's not quite accurate. Buy this book together with products that have included coral calcium on Trudeau's website, www.naturalcures.com, and subscribe to his email newsletter (lifetime subscription $499) and then enjoy eternal health. Just because it's natural, doesn't mean it's free.

Mr Trudeau has no medical, pharmaceutical or therapeutic qualifications. He did, however, spend two terms in Federal prison for credit-card fraud. In his book, he admits that "I have made major mistakes in my life. I have paid my price and I have turned my life around."

Before he turned around into bestsellerdom, Trudeau's most successful self-help publication offered a surefire remedy for snoring. Nowadays, he presents himself as "America's foremost consumer advocate". He is the lone voice speaking up against the all-powerful "they": regulatory government bodies, such as the Food and Drug Administration and the Federal Trade Commission in alliance with NGOs such as the American Medical Association and - behind them - the drug companies, the health insurers and the fast-food chains.

"Did you know," asks Trudeau, "that the medical profession, in partnership with the pharmaceutical industry, has a huge interest in keeping you sick rather than healing you? Do you realise the Federal government is doing everything in its power - and some things well beyond its stated power - to keep this a secret?" Now you know.

The problem faced by the authorities ("they", that is) is whether, even in the land of the free, the public should be allowed to buy snake oil. Some of Trudeau's "cures" are so harmful as to verge on the homicidal. "Pacemakers," he alleges, "cause heart failure." "Stop taking all non-prescription and prescription drugs," he urges. If you take them, "you absolutely will get sick and develop disease". Throw away the aspirin and live for ever.

Instead of popping the poisons prescribed by your family doctor, Trudeau recommends 15 colonic irrigations in 30 days, magnetic rings on the fingers (especially at night), and no alarm clocks ("they have profound effects on your body's pH"). And lots of coral calcium. That, not chemotherapy, was supposed to keep the big C at bay.

Last September, the FTC slapped a $2m fine on Trudeau for claiming that his magic powder, procured from the swirling depths of the barrier reef, could cure or prevent cancer. Since he has made a reported $2bn over the past few years the fine, as with others he has been obliged to pay, was small change. He admitted no wrongdoing, agreed to stop marketing the coral calcium, but kept on with his bestselling books (carefully "updated" to avoid any more irritating inroads into his royalties). He has a follow-up on the way: How to Lose 30 Pounds in 30 Days: the Weight Loss Secret "They" Don't Want You to Know About.

It would be easy to dismiss Trudeau's ability to separate the great American public from their hard-earned dollars as confirmation that there's one born every minute and somebody else eager to profit by it. But the runaway success of Natural Cures also bears witness to genuinely troubling aspects of the American healthcare system. It has been estimated that some 50 million citizens have no health insurance. For these desperate people, who fall sick like everybody else, "natural cures" are all they can afford. "Socialised medicine", as the Clintons learned the hardway, has no place in America. Capitalistic medicine does. What John le Carré calls "Big Pharma" has made America the most drugged nation in history. Big burgers, as the film-maker Morgan Spurlock amusingly suggests, has made it the fattest. The profits roll in, as Americans become more chemically zonked and unwell. Why don't "they" do something about it? Dig into your wallet, read Trudeau, and have your most paranoid suspicions confirmed.

www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1558331,00.html
 
I spotted that this morning and was too annoyed to actually post it.

Instead of popping the poisons prescribed by your family doctor, Trudeau recommends 15 colonic irrigations in 30 days,

You'd stand a very good chance of damaging your colon doing that...mind you you probably would lose 30 pounds in 30 days... :shock:
 
The adverts on his site seem to consist more of him naming diseases that saying anything really useful.

He comments that more people are getting diseases and blames the medical profession. I blame the fact that there are simply more and more people. More people = more recorded illness.

He is evidently a fake but sells his story fairly well I suppose (if you are a gullible american).


If there is a cure for cancer I really dont think that it would have been kept secret for very long no matter how hard they tried.

Mind you..... If he is right :shock:
 
A guy I used to work with had got into some similar thing, he was convinced he could live to 150 and would never get cancer 'cos he ate apricot kernels.
 
BlackRiverFalls said:
A guy I used to work with had got into some similar thing, he was convinced he could live to 150 and would never get cancer 'cos he ate apricot kernels.

do they not contain some kind of poison?
 
chockfullahate said:
BlackRiverFalls said:
A guy I used to work with had got into some similar thing, he was convinced he could live to 150 and would never get cancer 'cos he ate apricot kernels.

do they not contain some kind of poison?


They contain a touch of cyanide compounds, but you'd have to eat a hell of a lot and as The Straigh Dope points out it doesn't accumulate.

The apricot cancer controversy was about some stuff called laetrile which is supposed to be a cure for cancer, but isn't.

And before anyone starts on conspiracy theories about big pharma, if this stuff actually worked the drug companies would be going all out to develop and improve on it, not supressing it
 
chockfullahate said:
BlackRiverFalls said:
A guy I used to work with had got into some similar thing, he was convinced he could live to 150 and would never get cancer 'cos he ate apricot kernels.

do they not contain some kind of poison?

To be honest I'd be slightly more worried about passing them at t'other end :shock:

That said peach stones are worse.
 
I've often pondered over the issue of cures for illnesses being 'hidden' by pharmaceutical companies. Although it's easy to pooh pooh the idea off hand, it's a little like the 'water engine' being suppressed by oil companies i.e. inconceivable by moral and ethical standards, but completely conceivable from a hard-nosed economic point of view. If I owned a company that sold something that fixed a perpetual, yet minor, problem, but discovered the cure, I know that my profits would disappear pretty sharply if I gave this cure to everyone. Perchance that's why if a cure for something like the common cold was or has been found, then why not keep it a secret? People rarely die of a little cold, but are more than happy to dish out cash on remedies which only slightly alleviate the symptoms. It'd be harder for them to do if they discovered a cure for the like of cancer or HIV, because such a thing would be fundamental to our day to day existence that there would be no way to keep it hidden.

This bloke still sounds like a snake oil peddler though, I mean, $2bn for some of that nonsense. The only thing that he's managing to achieve (and here's a bit mroe conspiracy) is to discredit the genuine homeopathic remedy movement.
 
Uuuuuuugh. This crazy bastard has paid programs on my local channels frequently; I gag every time I flip through them and see his lying face. He basically has nothing intelligent to say, blowing lots of hot air and moaning about conspiracies and censorship and how all doctors want is to make money, yet his own products aren't exactly cheap. If he really cared about people and had anything of any worth to say he would just get online and post it all for free so anyone could read it.
 
i would say a combination of natural/alternative medicine and going to the doctor or THEM :shock: works well...........they both have their advantages and disadvantages.....
 
So he's playing on the fears people harbour about the government (or other "they"s) having control of their lives. It's the Man in the White Suit thing isn't it.... big business supressing something they know will impact on their profit margins...

But if playing on people's fears of conspiracies is a good way of making lots of money quickly surely it's in "Their" interest to keep new conspiracy theories coming and support the old ones with new "evidence" - so on that score FT itself could be accused of working for "them".

but really it comes down to bad science being swallowed by poorly informed people. Like the recent advertising standards case against whoever it was claiming their skin cream could reduce lines by relaxing subcutaneous muscle... as the weary doctor on the morning tv program i saw said - "the skin is an impermeable membrane - if this cream really could affect the muscles under it then it would be very dangerous!" But people were buying it by the bucket load for huge sums....

If we really want to get rid of this sort of snake-oil charlatanism then we have to take steps to make sure our children grasp the basic scientific (and medical) principles that they're taught in schools, then it would be harder to sucker them...

He's not really doing any more than that scottish woman who's on channel 4 every week telling people to stop smoking, eat raw veg and seaweed and get out more... and being proclaimed as some sort of revalutionary dietician... it's just common sense packaged well. But her books are shifting like nowt else!
 
The figure I found interesting was that 50 million americans are without health insurance. I s that true??? :shock:
 
intaglioreally said:
The figure I found interesting was that 50 million americans are without health insurance. I s that true??? :shock:

Almost makes you glad for the NHS. :?
 
I can just imagine thousands of low income, unemployed or desperate people believing this is the answer to their sick family members problems because they can't afford medical insurance. Probably couldn't afford further education either because of the expensive system America has, so they haven't learned to be analytical or skeptical of all they se on the magic glowing box in the corner.

I am developing a real problem with the American way. I've said it before, maybe Americans should start asking "What my country can do for me, for a change?"
 
<quashes potential selfish american comment>

The sad thing is, a lot of this junk is bought by educated people who though they can afford it, should still not be gambling with their health
 
I do remember hearing a while ago that Europe had found a cure for cancer, but that it was being kept a secret in America to profit the pharmacudical companies. Seeing as you all don't seem to have heard of/believe in it I guess it's not true.

The figure I found interesting was that 50 million americans are without health insurance. I s that true???

Probably. I don't know the statistics, but there definitely are a lot. I don't know how it works in the UK, but over here health insurance is expensive, decent health insurance is even more expensive, and usually you only get free health insurance if you have a really good job that pays for it.
 
RainyOcean said:
... I don't know how it works in the UK, but over here health insurance is expensive, decent health insurance is even more expensive, and usually you only get free health insurance if you have a really good job that pays for it.
If you are in the UK it is, to all intents and purposes, free. A small charge is made for all prescribed items (£6.50 or about $10) if you are not chronically ill. Dennis_de_Bacle (Caroline) as a diabetic qualifies for free meds.

If you want "priority" treatment then you can pay private healthcare providers but for difficult cases they will usually use NHS hospitals.
 
chriswsm said:
He is evidently a fake but sells his story fairly well I suppose (if you are a gullible american).

Kondoru said:
<quashes potential selfish american comment>

The sad thing is, a lot of this junk is bought by educated people who though they can afford it, should still not be gambling with their health

The problem is that it isn't just "gullible Americans" or "educated people" that fall for these types of scams - most people are wide open to them. The US medical system may leave people more vulnerable but we are all potential victims. Ben Goldsmith only covers UK issues in his Bad Science column but still finds plenty of material to get a column out of it every week.

As brightmoments points out there have been a number of issues with ads and an awful lot of them push the envelope (the ones that get prosecuted just push it too far). I think they need more a slap and I think everyone needs to wise up and not fall for it ;)

I'm still in favour of critical thinking classes in school.
 
If you are in the UK it is, to all intents and purposes, free. A small charge is made for all prescribed items (£6.50 or about $10) if you are not chronically ill. Dennis_de_Bacle (Caroline) as a diabetic qualifies for free meds.

You guys are lucky. I hate this country. Does that make me unpatriotic? :? Wait....I don't care.
 
What gets me is that there are plenty of poor suckers out there who'll genuinely believe that this guy is a caring sort who only has their best interests at heart. Having worked in the 'complementary-therapy' industry myself, however, I know for a fact that most 'practitioners' in certain of these fields (*ahem* such as kinesiology, for instance *ahem*) are venal, money-grubbing charlatans whose 'natural formulas and remedies' are not quite as wholesome as you may think. And the markup they make on their products (besides the extortionate costs of their services, that is) is extraordinary.

And as far as I'm concerned, the only ones who are 'genuine' are those that have come to believe their own bullshit.

Stick to your GP. He/she has nothing to sell.
 
Come over here, Rainy, we welcome all sorts of people, particularly those foreign.
 
I know a lot of us moan about waiting time at the NHS, but once I was panicking about something and was sent straight to the hospital and X rayed within ten minutes of getting there.
My doctors are a good lot, one of them is into Reiki actually, and another meditation, and rather than hand out pills for my longstanding depression, have suggested more exersize, meditation, and counselling, support groups etc.
They seem quite open minded, to most things, and do bother to take the time to explain things that you're concerned about, how things happen, why , the bodies workings. I pretty much do trust them , although they are short-staffed, and very busy.
I get a lot of emails through about miracle cures, as my mum, was so desperate to try anything for my stepfather, that she spent a lot of money on several potions, pills and drops, ordered via my email, all to no avail, therefore I wouldn't bother with them myself, seeing in believing. She read up everything she could about supposed ' miracle cures ' and because she so wanted to believe she tried everything, and got into thousands of debt, which she cannot now pay. She would have sold her body to pay for it, poor woman, and it was no good telling her that all these things were most likely rubbish, I wanted a miracle too. Every-one does.
 
GreenJeanz1 said:
Uuuuuuugh. This crazy bastard has paid programs on my local channels frequently; I gag every time I flip through them and see his lying face. He basically has nothing intelligent to say, blowing lots of hot air and moaning about conspiracies and censorship and how all doctors want is to make money, yet his own products aren't exactly cheap. If he really cared about people and had anything of any worth to say he would just get online and post it all for free so anyone could read it.

His infomercials play all the time here, too. I love his one for the Shark Cartilage supplement. Since they can't legally make any health claims, how do they justify catching and grinding up sharks to put in a pill for an exorbitant price when there's no medical science behind it? Easy, they go the opposite route by saying "Sharks don't get cancer!"

Thanks for the info, dickwad. Come to think of it, humans don't get fin rot, either.
 
:shock: LOL I'm sorry that last made me crack up.
I asked what Shark Cartiledge was for in G&C the other day, they never said anything about it being an anti cancer supplement.
 
This guy has been at it for years, know if he were UK based he would be banned by now, he has done everything from Memory aids, weight loss and now cure alls!

:roll:
 
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