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North American Mound Builders

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Etowah Indian Mounds & Megalithic Culture

I was checking out a site about our local indian mounds

http://ngeorgia.com/parks/etowah.html

And I got to thinking about the similarity of the mounds and formations here in the Eastern USA and European megalitic culture sites. Does anybody think it's possible that the mound/megalithic culture could have been influensed by one another, because people traveled and communicated more than is common acknowledged by mainstream archaeology?
 
Nope - people do tend to think alike and build the same general type of structures. House are generally square all over the world for instance. How many variations can there be on a mound?
 
Annasdottir said:
House are generally square all over the world for instance.
Um, Igloos, Yurts, wigwams, prehistoric stone dwellings on Dartmoor, or Skara Brae ...?
 
I meant permanent structures - yurts etc. are temporary dwellings. There are exceptions, but most permanent dwellings are square.
 
I agree with Annasdottir's main point (as I see it) - that simililarity of form does not point to a shared 'root' that was an inspiration for design. Shapes arise from designs that work - if they look alike across different parts of the globe it's because those who built them encountered similar construction problems and found similar solutions.
 
The mound culture in the US appears at a Significantly later date than the moundbuilders in Europe, so unlikley. I Agree with Annasdottir. Monds are gonna tend to look pretty similar. its essentially just a pile of earth.
 
Moundville and the Eye in the Hand

I had some friends recently go to Moundville in Alabama, which is one of the largest sites extant of the Southeast ancient American moundbuilding culture.

MOUNDVILLE SITE
Link is obsolete. The current U. of Alabama Moundville entry page is at:


https://moundville.museums.ua.edu/about/

But the wild thing is, that their central image is the spooky looking Eye In the Palm Of The Hand!

According to THIS SITE about Eye in the Hand imagry, there is no eral consensus about what it means:

Rattlesnake Disc - The rattlesnake disc is probably the most famous item found at Mound State Monument. We have no explanation for the meaning of the designs on the face of this 12.5 inch disc. It is thought that the rattlesnakes bound at two points mean war. The hand with the eye in the center probably represents those of the creator. Since no other disc is so elaborately inscribed, archaeologists have reason to believe that this disc was one of great importance and was probably used in religious and/or war ceremonies.
- display placard at Mound State Monument, Moundville


The Choctaws believed that the Sun watched them with its great blazing eye, and so long as the eye was on them they were all right, but if the eye was not on them they were doomed. p 126
Perhaps the Mississippian hand-and-eye design represents a crystal held in a man's hand, symbolizing the ability to see into the future, although this interpretation must remain conjectural until other evidence presents itself.73 p 169


note 73: James Howard has suggested that the hand and eye design had something of the meaning the hand design had for the Plains Indians in more recent times. Namely, that it was associated with warfare, and that it might have meant, as among the Omahas and Dakotas, that the warrior wearing it had been struck or wounded by the enemy (Southeastern Ceremonial Complex, 29-34). LIke the anomalous feathered serpent, the use of the hand and eye design also occurs in the art of the Northwest Coast and in Mesoamerica, with some similarity to art motifs in China during the Shang and Early Chou dynasties. Cf. Robert L. Rands, "Comparative Notes on the Hand-Eye and Related Motifs," American Antiquity 22 (1957):247-57. p 516

-- Charles Hudson, The Southeastern Indians, University of Tennessee Press (Knoxville 1976) chapter 3: The Belief System


Isn't it interesting how things work out universally. Maybe that Jung fellow was onto something....
 
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Interestingly (although not connected to the current specific topic) I noticed there is a new book out this month (last month in the UK) on The Moundbuilders:

The Moundbuilders: Ancient Peoples of Eastern North America (Ancient Peoples and Places)
by George R. Milner

Editorial Reviews

Bruce D. Smith, Smithsonian Institution
The best available book on the pre-Columbian Indian societies of eastern North America.

About the Author
George R. Milner is Professor of Anthropology at Pennsylvania State University. His previous books include The Cahokia Chiefdom: The Archaeology of a Mississippian Society.

Book Description
Nineteenth-century explorers of the American continent were amazed to find great monuments built of earth in the Eastern Woodlands. Thousands of these mounds were discovered in the plains and forests—some up to a hundred feet high, some merely overgrown hillocks, some conical, others flattopped. Speculation was rife as to the identity of the moundbuilders—could they have been Israelites? Romans? Phoenicians? And what meaning might the mounds have held for their creators?

As George Milner shows, research over the last century demonstrates conclusively that the mounds were in fact erected by the Native Americans themselves. In a period ranging from 3,000 BC to the sixteenth century AD, Native Americans quarried tons of earth to form these monuments, which vary widely in location, size, and purpose. Some contained thousands of burials, others served as platforms for chiefs' residences, and many were low-lying "effigy" mounds in the form of serpents, panthers, and other sacred beasts. Many beautiful objects have been found inside the mounds, including artifacts of shell, copper, and mica.

The Moundbuilders covers the entire sweep of Eastern Woodlands prehistory, with an emphasis on how societies developed from hunter-gatherers to village farmers and town-dwellers. Great strides have been made in recent research, and many of the most impressive mounds, such as Poverty Point, Cahokia, and Moundville, are described and discussed in detail. This wide-ranging and copiously illustrated book, complete with a gazetteer of sites to visit, will be the perfect guide to the region for archaeologists and students as well as for the tourist and traveler. 153 illustrations, 20 in color.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/050002118X/
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/050002118X/

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Posted: 6/17/04

Could mysterious mound be an ancient burial site?

by L.A. Jones
Union editor

Archeological and other experts discount it, but could the eastern bank of the Rum River in northern Anoka be home to ancient burial mounds, possibly of the Woodland Cultures (1000 B.C. to 1700 A.D.) or the Mississippian Culture (1000 A.D. to 1700 A.D.)?

And if not, what formed a large 350- by 650-foot mound north of the Rum River Library and other smaller mounds in the area?

“The mound is an interesting thing,” said Bob Kirchner, Anoka’s community development director and an employee of the Anoka County Historical Society in 1978 when Bernard Crandall, then a gardening writer for the Anoka County Union, pulled Kirchner aside and pointed out the 350- by 650-foot unusual rise in the earth on a topographical map of the area.

“It’s an interesting mystery that would be fun to solve,” Kirchner said. “It was his (Crandall’s) belief that it was an ancient mound. I would never have thought of this on my own.”

It most definitely has been determined that the mound in question was not created by any of the Ojibwe or Dakota people of more recent years. This because the mounds they used to bury their deceased or artifacts in were much smaller and not at all characteristic of the one north of the Rum River Library.

Kirchner believes the mound may be more characteristic of the Cahokia Mounds and an ancient American Indian civilization located near Collinsville, Ill., estimated to have existed between 700 and 1300 A.D.

It is believed that during the Middle Ages Cahokia was a larger city than London at that time and yet today, is an abandoned place about which historians know very little. It is believed that about 20,000 people once occupied Cahokia.

Additionally, historians and archeologists believe the ancient Hopewell community in the Ohio Valley began to penetrate Minnesota sometime after 500 B.C. via the Mississippi River. The largest infusion of the Mississippian culture is believed to have come up the Mississippi by at least 1000 A.D.

Both built mounds, and although some of the Cahokian mounds have measured as large as a football field, most mounds from both of these cultures were much smaller, perhaps no more than 35 feet in diameter and less than two feet high.

For this reason and others, Lyle Bradley, Anoka County environmentalist and retired Anoka High School science teacher, as well as state archeologists, discount that the mound north of the Rum River was any kind of burial site.

“It’s beyond human comprehension building something like that,” said Bradley. He believes that the mound is not a burial site because the cultures at that point of time in question possessed only archaic tools.

The mounds located along the eastern bank of the Rum River in northern Anoka were surveyed and it was determined they couldn’t have been ancient mounds, he said. Bradley said he also seen the mounds in Illinois and the Ohio Valley and they do not resemble the Anoka mounds.

Yet, Bradley admits that no excavations of the largest Anoka mound or any of the smaller ones have ever been conducted.

Although all of the burial mounds discovered in Minnesota have been far smaller, such as those in Mounds Park in St. Paul, perhaps the largest such mound found in the state was the Grand Mound on the Rainy River near Minnesota’s northern border. It is more than 100 feet in diameter and more than 40 feet high.

And even though Anoka’s largest 350- by 650-foot mound and about 30 feet in height easily surpasses this, some of the Cohokia mounds are indeed as large, except for the fact that they mostly had cone shapes or flat surfaces on top of them. Historians and archeologists have contended that some of their mounds used to bury only their deceased were dome shaped.

Additionally, the Serpent Mound, built by the Adena people in Ohio sometime between 1,000 B.C. and 200 A.D. was 1,330 feet long, 20 feet across and five feet high. It was formed in the shape of a snake.

If not a burial or ancient mound, Kirchner questions what could have formed the unusual 350- by 650-foot elevation in the earth north of the Rum River Library on the east bank of the river in northern Anoka.

“It doesn’t look natural,” Kirchner said. “There are things to suggest that it got put there instead of being created naturally by erosion or a river.”

It’s entirely possible that the large mound was the result of some kind of sand and gravel operation or possibly from dredging the river for logging operations, according to Kirchner.

But until the full extent of the mysterious mound in northern Anoka is solved, he said, Kirchner will have his doubts, curiosity and desire to ponder the matter.

“As we’ve looked at the property up there,” he said, “I’ve always protected it (the mound) as if it were something significant.”

http://www.anokacountyunion.com/2004/June/17mound.html

Link is dead. The MIA webpage can be accessed via the Wayback Machine:

https://web.archive.org/web/20040802225538/http://www.anokacountyunion.com/2004/June/17mound.html
 
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I'm positive I've mentioned this on some other thread, but if anyone is ever in the vicinity of St. Louis, Missouri, the Cahokia Mounds State Park, across the Mississippi River in Illinois, is definitely a must see for anyone with an interest in ancient cultures, astronomy, geomancy, etc. Other than the extreme misfortune of a highway slicing through the site, it is an astonishing place. The interpretive center is ambitious and wonderful.

IMHO, it deserves to be seen in the same light as other, far more famous World Heritage locales.

Check it out if you can. :cool:
 
As to similarities in ancient sites - I was reading somewhere that stone circles exist not only in europe, but in america and asia too.
 
I've been to Cahokia myself, and I concur that it is quite impressive. In addition to Monk's Mound, which stands at about 100 ft tall, there are about 100-odd other mounds in the immediate area and there used to be even more in downtown STL until they were levelled to make way for progress. There's even a woodhenge nearby, and a pretty darn big one too. It's the biggest native construct outside of Central America and it really puts other midwest mound sites like Spiro and Aztalan to shame.

I think the main difference (and I may be wrong) between European and American mounds is that American mounds tend to be almost entirely composed of dirt, and possibly shells, whereas European mounds are often built around rocky innards. Also, it's my understanding that passages and rooms are common in the mounds of Europe, but seem to be quite rare in the United States.
 
Posted on Sun, Aug. 01, 2004

Ancient Ohio earthwork remains a mystery today

Crescent-shaped Serpent Mound nationally recognized

By Bob Downing

Beacon Journal staff writer



PEEBLES, OHIO - The 1,348-foot-long Serpent Mound remains Ohio's biggest mystery.

No one knows who built the ancient earthwork in southern Ohio or when it was constructed, but it was obviously a major religious or mythical symbol to its makers.

The Serpent Mound is the largest and finest serpent effigy in the United States and one of Ohio's only effigy mounds. It is a National Historic Landmark and on the National Register of Historic Places.

Yet it remains one of the most poorly understood constructions by ancient mound-building peoples with an elusive past.

The crescent-shaped mound -- it appears to be in the shape of an undulating snake with a spiral-coiled tail -- sits atop a plateau 90 feet above wooded Ohio Brush Creek.

Some claim the shape of the mound is of a snake with its mouth open swallowing an egg or chasing a frog. Others say it represents a horned snake of Indian culture. Of course, no one knows.

The head of the snake is aligned to the summer solstice sunset and the coils may point to the winter solstice sunrise and the equinox sunrise.

Some claim the Indians may have built it in the wake of Halley's Comet appearing in the year 1066.

The mound has gained a reputation for being a spiritual place where strange things occasionally happen. It is a New Age power center, believers say.

The mound -- it is managed by the Ohio Historical Society -- makes a great stop for casual travelers.

Good vistas

Serpent Mound State Memorial is off state Route 73 about 10 miles north of Peebles in Adams County. It is six miles north of state Route 32 and 20 miles south of Bainbridge in Bratton Township.

You walk on a paved path that is up to 3 feet high that takes you around the mound. You can climb a 25-foot tower to get an aerial look at what may be an ancient sky calendar. There is a small museum at the 54-acre state memorial.

The grass-covered mound is from 2 to 6 feet in height and from 20 to 25 feet in width as it stretches and roils nearly a quarter mile. The bottom of the mound is yellow clay from nearby pits and rock covered with soil.

The serpent's head and tail both lie along cliffs on the southwest. The northeast edge of the effigy slopes sharply away. That creates an isolated feeling and provides good vistas of the Ohio Brush Creek Valley.

There is no evidence of the Indians who created it burying their dead on the serpent mound. They were buried, instead, in other nearby mounds.

The Serpent Mound was built atop a unique geological feature: an underground explosion that jumbled the rocks under and around the area.

Some rock formations rose 1,000 feet above ground and others sank 400 feet for reasons that befuddle geologists.

Whatever happened -- a meteor or asteroid or volcano or underground explosions -- occurred about 200 million years ago. It affected a 15-square-mile area around where the Serpent Mound is now.

Similar underground phenomena have been recorded elsewhere with no mound-building activities. But experts are unsure if there is a tie between the effigy and whatever happened around the site.

There are similar serpent effigies in Ontario and Scotland.

Elaborate calendar

The Ohio site was first surveyed in 1846 by Ephraim Squire and Edwin Davis of Chillicothe. They published their work.

Harvard University archaeologist Frederic Ward Putnam visited the site in 1885 and was so worried that it would be destroyed by vandals and erosion that he purchased the site in the name of Harvard's Peabody Museum.

He spent three years from 1887-1889 excavating the effigy and nearby conical mounds. He found no human bones or artifacts in the serpent mound. He concluded that the builders of the effigy, along with two nearby burial mounds, were from the mound-building Adena culture (800 B.C. to A.D. 100).

A third burial mound at the park and a village site near the serpent's tail belong to the later Fort Ancient culture from A.D. 1000 to 1550.

More recent radiocarbon dating of charcoal from the Serpent Mound dates not to the Adenas but to the Fort Ancients in the 11th century.

In 1993, researchers Robert Fletcher and Terry Cameron theorized that the Serpent Mound forms an elaborate astronomical calendar.

Harvard turned the site over to the Ohio Archaeological and Historical Society in 1900.

For more information, contact the Serpent Mound, 3850 state Route 73, Peebles, OH 45660; 937-587-2796 or 800-752-2757.See http://www.ohiohistory.org/places/serpent.

Park hours: 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. daily. Closed Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year's Day.

Park hours: 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. on weekends from April 1 to Memorial Day weekend and in September and October. Also from 10 a.m. to 8 p.m. from Memorial Day weekend through Labor Day.

Museum hours are 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. daily from April 1 through Oct. 31.

Admission is free but there is a parking fee.

Requires (free) registration:

.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/living/9260493.htm?ERIGHTS=-1924368129937263383ohio::[email protected]&KRD_RM=3lkmqkmjrqnmqsjjjjjjjjkrpk|The|Y

Link is dead. No accessible archived version found.
 
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A Mississippi mound mystery

Cahokia — ‘The city that history forgot’
By Mike Brunker
Updated: 5:15 p.m. ET Aug. 11, 2004


MEMPHIS, Tenn. - The Mississippi River has its mysteries, but none that can touch the one that unfolded on its banks 1,000 years ago in what is now southeastern Illinois, across the river from St. Louis. We began the second week of our journey down the Mississippi by visiting the eerily magnificent mounds of the native American metropolis of Cahokia and hearing an archeologist describe the rapid rise and fall of “the city that history forgot.”

Every good mystery needs a detective, and we found ours in Tim Pauketat, an associate professor of archeology at the University of Illinois and a leading expert on Cahokia. Also joining us for our tour of the Cahokia Mounds State Historic Site was Susan Alt, a post-graduate student who is working on her dissertation on Cahokia and the surrounding villages.

As we began our tour by climbing Cahokia’s biggest mound — a tiered pyramid known as Monks Mound for a group of Trappist monks who built a monastery nearby in the early 1800s — Pauketat filled us in on the basics of what is known about the city and its people.

Prehistoric Indians first arrived at Cahokia around A.D. 700, but sometime around 1050 the population exploded for unknown reasons and the city became a regional center of what is known as the Mississippian culture. At its apex, the city had between 10,000 and 15,000 residents, with the regional population, including parts of St. Louis and East St. Louis, estimated to have been 30,000 to 40,000. That would make it one of the biggest — if not the biggest — world metropolises of its time.

Its fall was just as sudden. For reasons that remain unclear, by 1300 — only 250 years after its emergence as a prehistoric powerhouse — the once-magnificent city had been virtually abandoned and its people dispersed.

Almost as baffling as Cahokia’s rocket-like ascent and Icarus-like fall is the fact that many Americans have never heard of Cahokia and the Mississippian civilization.

Pauketat said that stereotypes about American Indians likely play a role in the dearth of knowledge.

“I think Cahokia has been forgotten, especially by Americans today, because it’s in North America, it’s in our backyard, it’s not exotic,” he said. “… That’s partly wrapped up in the subtle racism that still exists against American Indians. People typically don’t think that American Indians could have built a civilization given the biases that were developed during the westward expansion.”

As we gained the top of Monks Mound and gazed out at nearby mounds and restored features — a palisade intended to protect the inner city and a giant solar calendar called Woodhenge for its resemblance to Great Britain’s Stonehenge — Pauketat painted a picture of how the ancient city looked during its heyday.

The Cahokians built three types of earthen mounds — pyramid-shaped platform mounds, which had flat tops that served as bases for ceremonial buildings or residences of the elite, and conical and ridge-top mounds, both of which were used for burials of VIPs and, in some cases, victims of sacrificial rituals.

Monks Mound was the centerpiece of the complex, rising 100 feet from its 14-acre base. Archeologists estimate that it took 22 million cubic feet of earth, all transported from nearby “borrow pits” by baskets carried on the backs of workers, to create the mound in several phases. A large building — 105-feet long, 48 feet wide and about 50 feet high — once stood atop the mound and is believed to have been the ceremonial home of the city’s ruler or an elite clan.

Between the mounds were a series of plazas, the biggest of which — the Grand Plaza — covered almost 50 acres.

“These were places where you’d have feasts, processions or other public gatherings,” Pauketat said.

The plazas also were used as arenas for chunkey — a two-player game that consisted of rolling a smooth wheel-shaped stone and then throwing spears to try to come closest to the spot where the stone would come to rest.

The game, which was developed by Cahokians, remained popular hundreds of years later among Southwestern and Midwestern tribes. It likely involved high-stakes gambling, or at least it did when the first European explorers saw it being played.

“French explorers wrote that they got so into it that they would lose their families (through gambling) … and then commit suicide,” Pauketat said. “It was a very important game.”

Arrayed around the central city were many outlying villages, where Cahokians raised corn, squash and a variety of starchy seeds on farms and hunted to supply the inner-city residents with meat.

They also practiced craft specialization, with individual clans or villages producing artworks, tools and weapons.

Pauketat said these villagers were clearly second-class citizens.

“They didn’t eat the good meat even though they were closer to the source at the woodlands … and may have had some social obligation to send it here,” he said.

Pauketat said archeologists have barely scratched the surface of Cahokian culture.

One of the most significant discoveries to date is Mound 72, a ridge-top burial mound in which archeologists found the remains of an important ruler, a male in his 40s, lain on a bed of more than 20,000 marine shell disc beads. Nearby were caches of arrow tips from present-day states like Arkansas, Oklahoma, Tennessee and Wisconsin, apparently sent in tribute to the deceased.

Also buried nearby were the bodies of many men and women, the victims of a mass execution at the same time of the man’s burial.

Though the reasons for the human sacrifices remain unclear, Pauketat said it appears the deaths were part of “a theatrical ritual, and the roles seem to be mythical,” possibly a retelling of the story of creation.

Mythical creatures like the birdman, a human looking figure with a falcon beak, also figure prominently in Cahokian artworks.

While such tidbits give glimpses of the ancient Cahokians, many aspects of their lives are shrouded by the passage of time, including the name by which they knew their city.

The name Cahokia comes from a clan of the Illinois Indians — the Cahokia — that was living in the area when the first French explorers arrived in the early 1600s. But the city’s original name was never recorded because the Cahokians had no form of writing. And strangely, no stories referring to the great city were ever recorded among the tribes that are believed to be their direct descendants — the Osage, Omaha, Ponca and the Quapaw, among others.

One theory, put forward by anthropologist Alice Kehoe, suggests that “Cahokia had some negative associations and when people left they were trying to get away from it and they intentionally forgot about it,” said Pauketat. “… (The Indians) didn’t talk about it, Euro-Americans came in, they didn’t care about it. So this place is sort of the city that history forgot.”

Just what those “negative associations” might have been remains open to debate, but Pauketat said he believes that an internal power struggle that spun out of control is the most likely explanation.

“It looks like there were factions and they were vying for control,” he said. “… First and foremost it was a failure of government.”

Others have theorized that environmental problems, including a drought and a major climatic shift that led to a “mini-ice age,” may also have contributed to Cahokia’s rapid downfall, Pauketat said.

While archeologists have fairly well-developed theories about the collapse of the civilization, the question of what caused Cahokia to catch fire has so far defied explanation.

“At 1050, there is a sudden coalescence and a central authority emerges … and the site goes from maybe 1,000 to maybe 10,000 to 15,000 people and grows to 8 square kilometers (a little less than 5 square miles),” Pauketat said. “Cahokia is a magnet. It sucks other people in here.”

Pauketat said efforts to answer such questions are being hampered by the fact that modern development in outlying areas continues to erase clues that could provide new insights into Cahokia.

“The Cahokian sprawl is difficult to measure because it has been covered by the St. Louis sprawl,” he said.

Still, with much digging yet to be done at Cahokia, Pauketat believes that the answers to many puzzles will eventually emerge.

“I’m an optimist,” he said. “I think you can get at answers, sometimes circuitously, through different routes. … But maybe I have to be an optimist, because it can be depressing given the rate of destruction.”

After saying goodbye to Pauketat and Alt and touring the Cahokia Mounds Interpretive Center, we pointed our van south and set off on a 250-mile drive to Memphis, Tenn.

We’ll return to the river on Day 9 of our trip, joining the crew of a U.S. Army Corps of Engineers dredge to learn the ins and outs of river-bottom vacuuming to maintain the Mighty Mississippi’s crucial shipping channel.

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Reporter Mike Brunker and media producer Jim Seida are traveling the length of the Mississippi in August and will be filing daily dispatches along the way. If you have a question or comment, mail us at [email protected].

URL: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5653719/

The more I read about this the more fascinating this is. When/if I'm in the States these will have to be on my itinerary. Although this is still pie in the Sky material anyone who knows the area got any recommendations? Sertile or Mr R.I.N.G?

Juts looking up some things from the article:

Cahokia Mounds State Historic Site:
http://medicine.wustl.edu/~mckinney/cahokia/cahokia.html

Cahokia Mounds Interpretive Center:
http://medicine.wustl.edu/~mckinney/cahokia/infocenter.html
http://www.siue.edu/CAHOKIAMOUNDS/ICtour/

NOTE: A thread dedicated to the Cahokia site has been established, and it provides the biggest concentration of materials and discussions on the subject to be found on our forum:

https://forums.forteana.org/index.p...sissippian-culture-metropolis-illinois.62150/

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I'm also starting to recall that I saw a very interesting documentary on this a few years ago (BBC2/Channel 4?) about how the main sites had been altered/destroyed and then they did a fine reconstruction. I'll see if I can remember some more details.
 
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William Corliss sells a reprint of Squire and Davis1848 work on the mounds, dont have it myself , still working on Ancient Structures.
 
Nothing specific - just dangling a few speculative hooks over the side to see if anyone has naything interesting to throw in.
 
All I know is that there used to be a LOT more Indian mounds than there are now, in Missouri, at least. Like I said, there used to be a whole Indian city on the present site of downtown St. Louis.

They were thoroughly levelled, but the current issue (or maybe last month's issue) of Ancient American magazine http://www.ancientamerican.com/ did an article on them, complete with detailed (and interesting) maps that show a planned and orderly large-scale community. Ancient American's not the most reputable publication, but I don't think they fudged the facts too much on that one.

There are a few mounds left around Polk county, which is where I live, but most of them have been lost. Not destroyed, neccesarily, just lost in the wilderness.
 
There were (are) mounds in DuPage County Illinois (about an hour west of Chicago) as well, the Winfield Mounds. Here is an article about them (from four years ago).

http://www.dupageforest.com/CONSERVATIONIST/FALL2000/winfieldmounds.html

Unraveling the Mystery of the Mounds

by Jack MacRae, Naturalist, Fullersburg Woods Environmental Education Center

One thousand years ago, the long ridge of land that lay adjacent to the West Branch of the DuPage River was, like today, an ideal place to live. Food and water were plentiful. Building materials were abundant, as were the items necessary for making clothes, games, tools and all other household needs. It's not surprising that various groups of people chose to live on the high ground that overlooked the west bank of this slow-flowing river. What is surprising is the type of evidence that one group of inhabitants left behind: in particular, three low, circular, earthen mounds. Today, these prehistoric Indian mounds are found within the Winfield Mounds Forest Preserve in Winfield.


The 1,000-year-old effigy mounds located within Winfield Mounds Forest Preserve stand as evidence of the prehistoric peoples of our area.

Evidence suggests that, by any standards of living, the people who constructed the Winfield mounds lived well. They grew corn, beans and squash in their gardens. They hunted deer, elk, buffalo, ducks and geese with their bows and arrows and tended fire. They set up wooden fishing weirs to trap bass and sturgeon and caught fish with bone hooks. They ate raspberries in the summer and hickory nuts in the fall. They made sugar from maple trees and tea from rose hips. They played games, sang songs and told long, involved stories about heroes and villains.

The people who made the Winfield mounds belonged to a culture that archaeologists have identified as the Late Woodland Effigy Mound Tradition. These people likely had a complex social structure and could be found living in the river valleys throughout the Midwest between the years of A.D. 400 and 1000. Eventually, they were replaced in this area by the Mississipian culture and the historic native groups of Illiniwek and Potawatomi.


In the future, visitors to Winfield Mounds Forest Preserve will be able to access the mounds via a footpath trail off the Geneva Spur of the Illinois Prairie Path..


Indian mounds were built for several reasons. One type of mound was used as a cemetery; these burial mounds could contain the remains of several hundred individuals buried over several centuries. Thousands of burial mounds have been found in the Midwest. The well-known Dickson Mounds along the Illinois River are examples of burial mounds. A second type of mound was constructed to provide native leaders with a prominent place to live where the rising sun would shine on their dwellings before it reached the others in the village. It has been suggested that the massive Monks Mound in Cahokia, Ill., along the Mississippi River, was built to elevate spiritual leaders.

A third type of mound, the effigy mound, was built in both simple and elaborate shapes and patterns. While sometimes depicting animals or mythological creatures, effigy mounds were more often constructed in simple ovals or circles. Effigy mounds were also used as cemeteries. The mounds at Winfield Mounds Forest Preserve are considered effigy mounds although they are simple in shape and evidence of a human burial was discovered in one of them.


The people who built the prehistoric mounds chose to make their home on the high ground near the West Branch of the DuPage River.

The Winfield mounds lay unnoticed and untouched throughout the centuries of European exploration and American settlement. In the early 1920s, the land containing the mounds was owned by a farmer named Player. Unknown vandals first excavated the mounds in 1926. Although these individuals were chased off the property, they appear to have returned the following year to dig more extensively, as farmer Player discovered a pit 4 to 6 feet in depth carved into the center of one of the mounds. It is not known what materials, skeletal or otherwise, were removed.

In 1929, a Wheaton resident named Cook began excavating the remaining mounds that were left untouched by the vandals. After digging a T-shaped trench through one of the mounds and becoming frustrated at finding little in the way of artifacts, Cook contacted the University of Chicago's anthropology department. As a result, in 1931, under the direction of Georg K. Neumann, the first trained archaeologists began work at the site. These diggers were able to locate cremated human remains in one of the mounds, but only after 75 percent of the mound was excavated. It was this archaeological team that determined the function, location and age of the mounds.


In the mid-1970s, students from Wheaton College benefited from the opportunity to study such a rich archaeological site right in DuPage County.

The Forest Preserve District purchased the first 226 acres of the now-360-acre preserve in 1970. During the mid-1970s, an instructor from Wheaton College became interested in the Winfield mounds site as a place to train his students in the techniques of field archaeology. The wide range of work conducted by his students at the site resulted in the recovery of over 2,000 artifacts, including stone tools and shards of pottery. This work added another piece to the area's historic puzzle by establishing the location of a prehistoric village associated with the mounds.

The most thorough investigations into the Winfield mounds took place during the 1980s and 1990s, when Doug Kullen, a professional archaeologist, was able to determine the probable dates of village occupation and mound construction. Kullen's work indicated that the village site had been occupied by at least two separate groups of people. The first people to live at the site belonged to the Middle Woodland Period, approximately 2,000 years ago. The people who probably constructed the mounds lived at the site approximately 1,000 years ago, during the Late Woodland Period.

The past eight decades of research into the site, whether by vandals, students, amateurs or professionals, resulted in the almost complete obliteration of the actual mounds. Now, after being fully excavated, no artifacts remain; and, in order to protect the integrity of the site, no further digging is permitted. For historic purposes, the mounds have been reconstructed to their original size and shape and remain fascinating evidence of the prehistoric people of our area.

Currently, access to the mounds is limited to unmarked footpaths off the Geneva Spur of the Illinois Prairie Path. However, the District has approved the construction of a footpath trail from the Geneva Spur and the clearing of the area around the mounds to provide easier access. In the meantime, those interested in visiting the spot that prehistoric people called home can partake in two guided tours of the site. A "Winfield Mounds Hike" will be offered on October 8 and a "Night Hike" to the mounds on October 12. See the October calendar for reservation information.
 
The Lost City of Cahokia

http://www.neh.fed.us/news/humanities/2004-09/cahokia.html
Ancient Tribes of the Mississippi Brought to Life
By Emmett Berg

The city of Cahokia, in modern-day Illinois, had a population of twenty thousand at its pinnacle in the 1300s. With pyramids, mounds, and several large ceremonial areas, Cahokia was the hub of a way of life for millions of Native Americans before the society's decline and devastation by foreign diseases.

Representatives from eleven tribes are working alongside archaeologists and anthropologists to assist the Art Institute of Chicago in developing an exhibition that explores artistic and cultural themes of a major branch of pre-Columbian civilization--the direct ancestors of most American Indians today. "Hero, Hawk and Open Hand: American Indian Art of the Ancient Midwest and South," opening November 20, comprises more than three hundred works. It's one of the largest showings of artifacts, design, and architecture dating from the rise and decline of Mississippian civilizations in the Midwest and the South between 2000 B.C.E and 1600 C.E.

"This particular exhibition has the potential to be the most important exhibition ever on Native American Indians. It could change the popular conception of what Native Americans were like," says Garrick Bailey, a Tulsa University professor of cultural anthropology who is part white, part Choctaw, and part Cherokee.

"One of the strongest images in American society, even today, is that of the American Indian," he says. "It seems to range only from red devil to noble savage--both a simple child of nature. It's very pervasive. It's had a tremendous impact on how white America sees Indians and increasingly how younger American Indians see themselves. Trying to address that issue is the most important one."

Tribal members will serve as docents for the exhibition. Mural-sized reconstruction drawings will evoke the panorama and complexity of ancient settlements found in present day Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois, along the Tennessee and Mississippi Rivers, and elsewhere in the South. The murals are meant to reinforce the shared themes and worldview of ancient America implicit in the artifacts, although there are regional distinctions and variation.

The objects on display include ceremonial pipes sculptured in animal and human forms, conch shells engraved with ritualistic scenes, copper repoussé plates of rulers in full regalia, masks of shell and wood, embellished ceramic vessels and figural forms, finely worked stone implements, mica figures, and jewelry. Many of the works come from private collections and have never before been viewed widely.

Hero, hawk, and open hand refer to three recurrent motifs in native mythology regarding life, death, and renewal. Pipe effigies and fertility figures depict heroes, or legendary figures--often ancestors or mythical sources of life--who were also supernatural protectors and models for human leaders. Figures such as the hawk were connected with forces in nature and were believed to be linked to humans; dreams and ritual offerings made by shamans, hunters, and rulers maintained the cycles of society. The open hand is a sign in the Native American constellation associated with the passage of the soul from the realm of the living to that of the dead. Such cosmological forces were invoked by rituals and by aligning ceremonial sites to the paths of the sun or moon and the movements of constellations.

The exhibition begins with a map of the eastern U.S. stripped of all detail except place names descended from Native American languages--a riposte to the American concept of "manifest destiny": the idea that America was a wilderness until Europeans arrived, and that native peoples were ill-equipped to forge a civilization of their own.

"Names of hundreds of places and geographical features, signs pointing to scattered archaeological sites, and many routes of overland travel testify to that fact that there never really was an untamed wilderness here--or at least not since the time of the mastodon and saber-tooth cat," writes Richard Townsend, the Institute's curator for Amerindian art, in his introduction to the exhibition catalog. "Many highways are also superimposed on roads traveled since early colonial times, which in turn followed centuries-old Indian trails . . . and the paths of seasonal animal migrations."

Retracing the steps of a culture from which so much has been washed away can be baffling. Bailey recounts a 1910 encounter between the Omaha anthropologist Francis La Flesche and the Osage priest Saucy Calf. For four days Saucy Calf performed ceremonial rites consisting of ninety songs, six long ritual prayers, and seven symbolic ritual acts called we'-ga-xe. Saucy Calf used a notched tally stick on which each notch represented a song--a finger holding his place as a memory aid. As La Flesche recorded Saucy Calf, he noticed that the priest would sometimes skip notches without singing a song, and asked why he did so.

"Saucy Calf replied that he should not concern himself about those songs, for the ones he had forgotten were of ’no particular importance,'" Bailey writes.

Though there are many skipped notches, the archaeological record is more complete: it begins with hunting and gathering peoples of the late Pleistocene epoch during the last phases of the Ice Age. They hunted mammoths and bison as well as deer, and collected fruits and plants in season. Their stone axe heads and other objects show a high level of symbolic activity, Townsend says. The largest known settlement, located on the banks of the river Bayou Maçon in northeastern Louisiana, was anchored by a fifty-foot-high ceremonial mound aligned to the sun's path.

Around 500 B.C.E. central Ohio became a beehive of new cultural activity. The Adena people built conical mounds to commemorate tribal leaders, and their practices were expanded by the Hopewell culture, which existed between the years 1 and 400 C.E. The Newark Earthworks is perhaps the best known. The site encompassed four square miles and included two giant circles, an ellipse, a square, and an octagon, all connected by parallel walls. Bradley T. Lepper writes in an essay included in the exhibition catalog, "Ephraim G. Squier and Edwin H. Davis, among the foremost of the early students of American archaeology, declared in 1848 that the works occupying this Ôremarkable plain' were so complicated that it was Ôimpossible to give anything like a comprehensive description of them'."

The Hopewell people had by this time expanded their artistic repertoire to specialized, supernatural figures such as the long-nosed god, the birdman, and the old-woman-who-never-dies. They employed exotic materials such as shell from the Gulf of Mexico, copper from present-day Michigan, mica from what is now North Carolina, and obsidian from the land that became Wyoming. Artisans painstakingly crafted walls and mounds from layers of clay of different colors, and topped them with sod. As development encroached upon the works, an increasing amount of artifacts were laid bare.

"The earthworks were not just symbols on the landscape, they were built to be part of the landscape; and, perhaps, to allow their builders to transcend the boundaries of the terrestrial sphere," Lepper writes. "In one section, called Observatory Mound, the intricate 18.6-year cycle of the moon can be encompassed by four points on the eastern horizon marking a maximum northern moonrise, a minimum northern moonrise, a maximum and minimum southern moonrise, and four points on the western horizon marking the corresponding moonsets."

The Hopewell people eventually spread westward to the Illinois River Valley and into Tennessee, where the Mississippian period began some time after 800 C.E. Cahokia was built near where the Missouri, Ohio, and Illinois rivers empty into the Mississippi.

As the region's capital, Cahokia was replete with flat-top pyramids, burial mounds, and a vast ceremonial concourse surrounded by commercial and residential areas as well as outlying agriculture zones. A central mound would grow to a height of one hundred feet--the largest mound north of the valley of Mexico. The city housed artisans, political embassies, and was a destination for religious pilgrims. Cahokians were ruled under matrilineal succession and practiced human sacrifice. The death of a leader required the sacrifice of the spouse and at times other family members.

The city's enduring legacy came in the form of highly trained artisans who supplied works to chieftains and elites. Cahokian elites most likely used figurines crafted into pipes, shells inscribed with supernatural characters, stylized copper plates, and other items as a means to disseminate their beliefs to outlying communities, including the ancient chieftaincies at Etowah, Georgia; Spiro, Oklahoma; and Moundville, Alabama. The body of art produced at Cahokia spread far and wide, helping to perpetuate and reinforce the central myths and rituals common to the people at the time.

"The objects in the exhibition belong to the symbolic domain but had utility originally," Townsend says. One such item is a bannerstone, which functioned as a tool for atlatl spear throwers but could take on symbolic value similar to a coat of arms. When intricate figures or designs were carved on bannerstones, perhaps identifying them as props in one of the great myths, they would assume the power of relics. "The objects become very special as part of trappings of secular and religious power." Increased food production led societies as large as Cahokia to thrive for more than two centuries, but according to Townsend, a drought may have set in motion the slow decline that eventually resulted in the abandonment of nearly every large town.

By the time Spanish explorer Hernando De Soto and six hundred Spanish soldiers landed near Tampa Bay in 1539, the world they found was a well-populated system of sociopolitical centers and dependent villages, such as the four-hundred-mile stretch of Tennessee and Alabama that once formed the extended environs of the city known as Coosa. Bailey recalls one of De Soto's chroniclers reporting, "When the expedition reached the banks of the river separating them from town of Cutifachiqui, the woman chief ’. . . came from the town in a carrying chair in which certain principal Indians carried her to the river.'

"At Talomeco [in present day South Carolina] they found a town of five hundred houses, abandoned, its fields choked with weeds," Bailey says. "They were told that a few years earlier the town had been struck by a pestilence, which had killed many of the people, and caused the survivors to flee. Some iron tools found at the deserted town by De Soto men showed that the people had already come in contact with Europeans. Most likely they had met the Spanish settlers at San Miguel de Guadalupe, a coastal settlement founded in 1526 and abandoned the following year."

Contacts that Europeans made with Native Americans in this era set off a wave of catastrophic outbreaks of measles, smallpox, diphtheria, and even the common cold. More than 90 percent of Indian populations perished within a century.

The Indian country most colonists found when they crossed the Appalachians lacked the sophistication of the Cahokia and the mound builders. The natives had cruder tools, and no explanation for the mounds, leading some of the Europeans to believe that another race entirely had been responsible for fantastic artifacts and earth works.

"It would be like if you visited Europe in the Middle Ages, and there were no royalty or nobles--only peasants," Bailey says.

What remains of Cahokia are not only artifacts. Its root language, Dhegiha, has a legacy west of the Mississippi with the Omaha, Ponca, Osage, and Kansa, and perhaps the Chiwere-Winnebago of the Great Lakes region.

Yet a legacy does not ensure survival. Tim Thompson, a medicine man fluent in the Muscogee language, said in an interview for the exhibition that the younger generation has an interest in languages, but as just one of many activities that form the time-honored passing on of sacred knowledge.

"When you're trying to teach a language, regardless of what kind, but especially a Native Indian language, it's hard to hold anybody's interest," Thompson says, "because this kind of language was never a written language to begin with. The language is part of culture, and culture, to me, is something you can't teach-- you've got to live it."

"What's crucial to re.member is that people themselves do survive," Bailey says. "The tribes that the early Anglo Americans found when they came over the Appalachians are the direct descendants of those who built the mounds. They are the same people, and they will go on."
 
Last weekend, I went to the Provincial Petroglyphs Park in Ontario that was referred to back in November 2004 FT (don't know issue #), which was very cool.

However, on my way home, I stopped off at Ontario's very own 2,000 year old serpent mound, which I found fascinating. Hadn't been aware until then that there'd even been a burial mound fad in North America. While the Ontario one is far smaller than the serpent mound in Ohio, it's still about 200' long, surrounded by several small round/oval mounds (known as the serpent's eggs :? )

One thing particularly interesting is that the Indians who built these mounds only carried out these more elaborate funerary rites for about 250 years (during, I believe it's called the "Middle Woodland" period) and then stopped.

Was also very intriged to see my first Indian Burial Ground, having seen Poltergeist et al. Was less excited at the idea of a campsite a hundred yards from the IBG (having seen Poltergeist et al)

I got this information from the Ontario Archeological Society:

THE SERPENT MOUNDS

The principal mound of this group is the only known example in Canada of a mound of serpentine shape. The earliest archaeological excavation on the site was carried out by David Boyle in 1896. Artifacts and skeletal remains were discovered, but the first comprehensive investigation was not started until 1955. The mounds, somewhat similar to those of the Ohio Valley, appear to have been built while the region was occupied by Indians of the Point Peninsula culture, and are thought to have been religious or ceremonial in nature. Numerous burials have been found in the mounds, which are estimated to have been constructed about the second century A.D.

Historical background

The prehistoric man-made mounds near the north shore of Rice Lake known as the Serpent Mounds are the only ones of their type known to exist in Canada, although there are also similar mounds in Adams County, Ohio. The main ridge of the Rice Lake mound is almost 200 feet in length and serpentine in shape; adjacent to it are several small circular mounds, commonly referred to as the "serpent's eggs." The Rice Lake formations have been known to archaeologists since at least 1896 when Dr. David Boyle partially excavated them and published a report on his work. (Boyle was the first curator of the Provincial Archaeological Museum, which later became the Royal Ontario Museum.)

Systematic investigation of the site began in 1955 when the Royal Ontario Museum, with aid from the Serpent Mounds Foundation and the Ontario government, initiated an extensive program in an effort to discover the nature and origin of the mounds. Work was carried out during the summer months of the next few years and by 1958 a considerable number of prehistoric Indian burials had been discovered in the immediate vicinity, some twenty-one of these in the mounds themselves. While most of the graves contained little in the way of burial goods, two proved to be quite prolific. One of these included a cluster of forty-one disc beads as well as a turtle carapace and flint chips. Another contained the complete skeleton of a young man, a small animal effigy and shell disc beads. There were numerous shell deposits in the vicinity and some decorated pottery sherds recovered from the site seemed to indicate affinities with the Middle Point Peninsula culture. A charcoal sample collected in association with one of the burials was submitted to a Carbon-14 dating test, resulting in a tentative dating of 128 A.D. While no definite conclusions have been drawn regarding the purpose of these ancient mounds, it is believed they were originally constructed about the second century A.D., and they were of religious or ceremonial significance to the people who built them.
 
Intersting site I found (while searching for moundbuilder info) which indicates that Native Americans (and potentially the moundbuilders as well) were skilled iron smelters:

http://www.iwaynet.net/~wdc/home.htm
Was This An Iron Furnace?

Yes, it was. Welcome to archaeological mystery! The author is William Conner, avocational archaeologist of Columbus, Ohio. My archaeological odyssey begins August, 1963, as I pose (middle) with amateur archaeologist Arlington H. Mallery, and a neighborhood youngster. We sit in the remains of the bowl of the Overly furnace near the village of Austin, Ross County, Ohio. This furnace and others like it in South Central Ohio, excavated 1949-1992 by amateur investigators, represent an Old World technology 2,000 years old. How did it come to exist in Ohio? That is the mystery.


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Curiosity Overcomes Skepticism, 1963

In 1963, Arlington Mallery was still remembered locally as the amateur archaeologist who claimed that the Norse had built and operated iron smelting furnaces in Ross County, Ohio long before Columbus discovered America. Beginning in 1949, and continuing for several years, newspapers ran stories about Mallery and his "Viking furnaces." In his 1951 book, Lost America, Mallery classified the Overly furnace and several similar Ross County pit furnaces he investigated as "Nordic" or "Celtic" for their resemblance to ancient Old World pit smelters. He said his evidence "points to the Norse of Greenland" as those responsible for the furnaces, declared that the furnaces were "pre-Columbian," and were certainly the work of visitors from the Old World, if not the Norsemen themselves.

As a reporter for a major Ohio newspaper, the Columbus Dispatch, I was skeptical about Mallery's claims. Could iron be smelted in a hole in the ground? Could Norse explorers have reached Ohio nearly 1,000 years ago and have remained there long enough to smelt iron ore?

But I was curious, so I decided to take a chance on Mallery as the subject of a newspaper story. Through family connections, I had met Mallery in 1949 when I was a high school student in Chillicothe, the Ross County seat. I was already quite interested in science and archaeology. When he returned to Ohio 1963 to collect samples of charcoal from his archaeological sites for radiocarbon dating, family members and friends suggested that I write something about Mallery and his furnaces. I proposed doing such a story to an editor at the Dispatch and got permission to write a feature story for the newspaper's Sunday Magazine section. A Dispatch photographer accompanied me to one of Mallery's furnace sites in Ross County in April, 1963, to pose Mallery for the color photo, which was to appear on the magazine's cover.

From the beginning, I was uncomfortable working with Mallery, because I wasn't able to maintain my strict journalistic detachment while working with him. The man was then 86 years old. He lacked both transportation and help in the summer of 1963, so I furnished both. Reluctantly, I helped him dig and collect artifacts, because I wanted to write about Mallery and his work and knew he wouldn't get it done without help. Looking back now, I realize this was a fortunate discomfort. What I learned helping Mallery enabled me to come back many years later and begin the work to solve the furnace mystery.
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Just watched the History Channel's "Search For the Lost Giants", providing anecdotal evidence that exceptionally large human skeletons (estimated at 7 to 8 feet tall) were discovered during the early excavations of Adena mounds and in the so-called Bone Cave.

Suspiciously, all these remains seem to have disappeared - either repatriated to Native American groups for veneration and reburial in the 19th century, or have allegedly been deliberately concealed by authorities (The Smithsonian was mentioned) who want to suppress the notion of an ancient American civilisation of giants.

The one witness, acting all paranoid and claiming to have handled giant human remains but being warned not to talk about it, didn't strike me as very convincing.

Any views?
 
Just watched the History Channel's "Search For the Lost Giants", providing anecdotal evidence that exceptionally large human skeletons (estimated at 7 to 8 feet tall) were discovered during the early excavations of Adena mounds and in the so-called Bone Cave.

Suspiciously, all these remains seem to have disappeared - either repatriated to Native American groups for veneration and reburial in the 19th century, or have allegedly been deliberately concealed by authorities (The Smithsonian was mentioned) who want to suppress the notion of an ancient American civilisation of giants.

The one witness, acting all paranoid and claiming to have handled giant human remains but being warned not to talk about it, didn't strike me as very convincing.

Any views?

There's a book which supports the theory and got a good review in the FT mag by one of the editors. Must track it down.
 
Just watched the History Channel's "Search For the Lost Giants", providing anecdotal evidence that exceptionally large human skeletons (estimated at 7 to 8 feet tall) were discovered during the early excavations of Adena mounds and in the so-called Bone Cave.

Suspiciously, all these remains seem to have disappeared - either repatriated to Native American groups for veneration and reburial in the 19th century, or have allegedly been deliberately concealed by authorities (The Smithsonian was mentioned) who want to suppress the notion of an ancient American civilisation of giants.

The one witness, acting all paranoid and claiming to have handled giant human remains but being warned not to talk about it, didn't strike me as very convincing.

Any views?

The Ancient Giants Who Ruled America: The Missing Skeletons and the Great Smithsonian Cover-Up Paperback – 13 Feb 2014
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Ancient-Giants-Ruled-America/dp/1591431719

Reviewed in Fortean Times issue 315 (June 2014) by Bob Rickard.

Relevant Thread:
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Thanks!

So the cover up conspiracy in this case may just have some truth about it?
 
Jason Colavito is writing a book about the Mound Builders.

The Cross and the Mound: An Excerpt from My New Book in Progress
3/24/2018

Earlier this week, I briefly discussed a book I have been working on for the past few years, which will tell the story of the mound builder myth and how it affected the growth and development of the United States. As I described in my earlier blog post, so far no agent or publisher has expressed interested in the book. In lieu of a blog post today, I would like to share the first few pages of the book so you can get a sense of my approach to the topic. The book opens with a brief preface providing a factual overview of the history of mound building in North America, after which our story begins. The pages below are, of course, a draft, and they will likely undergo further revision, fact-checking, and correction should the book ever proceed to publication.

Prologue
The Cross and the Mound

On Monday March 29, 1540, the day after Easter, the six hundred Spanish and Portuguese volunteers of Hernando de Soto’s exploratory army were cold and wet and miserable. Several of their number had already died from illness or clashes with Native Americans, and more than a few had become convinced that death awaited them, too. [1] They had been tramping across the damp expanses of what is today the southeastern United States for nearly eleven months, tracing a jagged northward course from Espíritu Santo, now known as Shaw’s Point, in southern Florida, dragging in tow more than two hundred horses, upwards of two hundred pigs (though some say as few at ten or twelve), and sundry other livestock. They were largely young men, most barely in their twenties, many only just established in their chosen professions—craftsmen and priests, farmers and merchants. All had come with the promise of gold, glory, and God. A few had brought their families with them, imagining wealthy fresh lives in the New World. But things were not going particularly well.

Already some of the lean, long-legged Alentejano, or Black Iberian, pigs had gotten loose, a few here and there as the ragtag caravan had marched slowly across woods and plains and streams. Lost in the unending expanses of primeval forests, the pigs had vanished into the darkness but would not be forgotten. Someday these pigs would grow wild and mean and come back out of the forest as feral razorback hogs. In the woods, they would give to the deer and turkeys a host of European diseases to which the indigenous peoples of North America had no immunity. When the Native Americans hunted and ate the deer and turkeys, their chief game, they grew sick and many died. None of De Soto’s men would live to see razorbacks, but the pigs became a kind of cameo of the expedition as a whole, a symbol of European arrogance grown into something angry and dangerous. ...

http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/the-cross-and-the-mound-an-excerpt-from-my-new-book-in-progress
 
Etowah Indian Mounds & Megalithic Culture

I was checking out a site about our local indian mounds

http://ngeorgia.com/parks/etowah.html

And I got to thinking about the similarity of the mounds and formations here in the Eastern USA and European megalitic culture sites. Does anybody think it's possible that the mound/megalithic culture could have been influensed by one another, because people traveled and communicated more than is common acknowledged by mainstream archaeology?

Graham Hancock had asked specifically for correspondents from the USA to contact him for his new project looking at ice age civilisations destroyed (allegedly) during the catastrophic melt of the glaciers at the end of the ice age. Megaliths and mounds being of particular interest to him.

Check out www.grahamhancock.com

American readers should check out Hancock and Karlsonns discussion on the younger Dryas mass mega fauna extinction in North America.
 
Graham Hancock had asked specifically for correspondents from the USA to contact him for his new project looking at ice age civilisations destroyed (allegedly) during the catastrophic melt of the glaciers at the end of the ice age. Megaliths and mounds being of particular interest to him.

Check out www.grahamhancock.com

American readers should check out Hancock and Karlsonns discussion on the younger Dryas mass mega fauna extinction in North America.


More on Hancock's projects.

Graham Hancock's Ideas about Ancient North America Were Proposed 200 Years Ago, by a Plagiarist and Fraud

... Meanwhile, you have probably heard that Graham Hancock is writing a new book called America Before about the prehistory of North America, and his thesis is going to be that a comet struck the continent during the Ice Age, wiping out an advanced civilization whose legacy is embodied in the astronomical alignments of the famous mounds of the Ohio Valley and elsewhere. He wrote on Twitter last week that he is currently writing a chapter about Ohio’s Serpent Mound. There is a degree of irony that Hancock’s book is essentially a mirror image of my own current project, which is a narrative history of the rise and fall of the mound builder myth—essentially the same “lost civilization” hypothesis.

The interesting thing is that this material can be found all the way back in 1801, in the work of Michel Guillaume Jean de Crèvecoeur, also known as John Hector St. John, the former French consul at New York and a friend of Thomas Jefferson. Crèvecoeur was an unrepentant plagiarist, and he accidentally concocted the myth that a comet destroyed a lost civilization in America when, in creating his Travels in Upper Pennsylvania and the State of New York, he pieced together from a series of books a fake speech to place in the mouth of Benjamin Franklin. He first has Franklin talk about a lost white race that must have been the true builders of the mounds. Then he has him say: ...

http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/g...posed-200-years-ago-by-a-plagiarist-and-fraud
 
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