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Odd People: Cranks, Eccentrics & Nutters

Protein Man

I was chatting to an American friend, who used to live in London, a while back and telling her about a really good quality shouting nutter that I had encountered on the tube that morning. We both bemoaned the fact that there seemed to be a dearth of these sort of characters around anymore. Sad though they may have been, they were generally harmless and certainly gave some character to the place, and some of them became minor celebrities in their own right.

This got me thinking about the Protein Man, who I used to see every day at the corner of Oxford St and Regent St. He wore an enormous sign that said something along the lines of 'Less passion from less protein' and then had a long list of the evils of society, including, bizarrely, sitting!

I last saw him in, I think, the early 90's and since heard that he had died. He is mentioned in Peter Ackroyds London, A Biography. I just wondered if anyone had any information on him.
I sometimes wish that I had taken one of his leaflets as it seemed that, however strange his beliefs, he was absolutely committed to them and would be out in the streets in all weathers warning the public of the dangers of excessive protein.

I America he'd have probably become a health guru and been given his own tv show :D
 
There are plenty of nutters where I live ... they seem to come into town to be mad pretty much office hours.
There is a guy regularly gets the same bus as me in the morning who has intense theological discussions with himself in a variety of voices .....
 
Strangest one I saw was two men in combat fatigues marching through Sheffield shouting "Down with procreation! We love lesbians!".

I've also heard of a man who walks round Sheff city centre carrying a Ghetto Blaster playing the theme to the "Six million dollar man".
 
There's a bit of a nutter who wanders round leeds on friday/saturday nights (actually theres a couple of thousand, but one leaps to mind more easily) me and a group of mates came across him a fortnight ago.

We were wandering up past WHSmiths and saw him just ahead of us, he was wearing sallapetts (spelling?) and a white shirt and what appeard to be a waistcoat/handbag combo, but as we got closer we saw he was carrying a HK MP5 machine gun accross his chest and Berretta in a shoulder holster. A bit of a shock when you're out for a drink.

Of course the guns turned out to be fake (just try getting hold of an MP5) but worring none the less. who was he and why did he feel the need to be armed (albeit fakely) to the teeth? Other friends have seen the same fella, dressed identicaly and got similar shocks.

maybe he walks round and thinks "jesus, why aren't these people armed? don't they know?"

--kiel--
 
The nutter on the tube was of a particularly good quality. He was a shouter and a ranter. His specialist subject being how one thing smelt different from another thing, and then disgreeing vehemently with himself. So it went something like;

"Spoons smell different from forks!" "What ARE you people talking about?"

And this ranged over a very wide variety of subjects.
 
Ages ago I saw the comedian Dana Gould perform on the BBC stand-up show Paramount City, and he had the theory that every nutter was in touch with another nutter on the other side of the world.

So that when one fruitcake is ambling along Tottenham Court Road, muttering "I was a good soldier.... never knew the price of bananas... I'll have a sip...", another is standing in Times Square shouting, "What are you talking about? You were never in the war! You were a greengrocer! I have some whisky!"

Always rang true for me!
 
There's an old guy who, whilst not a raving nutter, can often be seen not far from one the exits from Wimbledon train station. He's always smartly dressed, wears a beret, and sits on a low wall playing one of those little keyboard/synthesiser things. I always end up giggling when I hear him play, as it always sounds like he's playing something almost recognisable (i.e. 'Born Free') - but then goes completely into a made up bit that's in a completely different key and also faster/slower. It's made more comical by the fact that the particular setting that he's chosen sounds like Sweep (from Sooty and Sweep).
 
There used to be an old bloke who'd quite regularly ride his bike into Blackpool town centre and spontaneously run backwards into various shops! Me and my mates thought he was great! Sadly haven't seen him in years though...

I did briefly consider taking up the post of 'backwards shop runner' myself, but it just wouldn't have been quite the same. Perhaps I'll end up doing it anyway, one day. :rolleyes:
 
we get the religious nutters here. I used to see this guy on Doncaster station regularly who would walk around swearing at himself. There was a guy who I saw a couple of times in Manchester who'd ride around on the trams talking to people about some 60's folk group.
 
Any of my fellow Sheffielders noticed the pudgy mixed race guy who walks round in a Nazi uniform? Very odd.

Is it illegal to wear Nazi regalia in public, I've heard it is? Maybe he's been arrested which explains why I haven't seen him recently.
 
Auntie Peach said:
Any of my fellow Sheffielders noticed the pudgy mixed race guy who walks round in a Nazi uniform? Very odd.

Is it illegal to wear Nazi regalia in public, I've heard it is? Maybe he's been arrested which explains why I haven't seen him recently.
It's illegal to wear Nazi uniforms and make Nazi salutes in Germany, Peach.

Niles
 
Auntie Peach said:
Any of my fellow Sheffielders noticed the pudgy mixed race guy who walks round in a Nazi uniform? Very odd.

Is it illegal to wear Nazi regalia in public, I've heard it is? Maybe he's been arrested which explains why I haven't seen him recently.

I think I know who you mean, but I didn't think it was a Nazi uniform, but seemed more South American military. I used to refer to him as "General Pinochet".

What about "Judgement Guy" who forever walks round the Moor, Fargate and Wednesday matches with his plackard of bible quotes? He had a few helpers a while back, they all seemed to be Chinese students, though I saw him the other day and he seems to be on his own again now.

I found an old, 1993-ish publicity shot of Pulp once taken down Fargate with Judgement Guy in the background!
 
Evilsprout said:
I think I know who you mean, but I didn't think it was a Nazi uniform, but seemed more South American military. I used to refer to him as "General Pinochet".

You're probably right there, I'm not that au fait with the old ultra-right military get-up.

Ooh, yeah, Judgement guy - I'm so used to seeing him I forgot about him!

And what about that bloke who walks round town just wearing thong knickers and flip-flops? That's not you is it Sprout? If so, nice arse!
 
Ha ha, no that's not me (though I don't think I'd admit it if it was...)
 
Is it me or are there a lot fewer nutters about nowadays?

Maybe I'm just showing my age, huh? No more shell shocked vet's left now.

It's a shame 'cos I enjoyed seeing them when in town. We seem to be buskerless too now as well. Sad, sad ,sad....
 
There do seem to be plenty of nutters left in Sheffield. Perhaps I should move there.
We used to have an unfortunate woman in Sutton who would attack cars, hurling abuse at them and crying pitiously, because her child had been run over and killed. Quite the most affecting and tragic person I've ever seen.
I used to be regularly accosted by a bag lady in Croydon, who would ask me for a "lift to her house". I always gave her a lift and she'd get out of the car at a different expensive house every time, and pretend to go into it. She was so ashamed of being homeless, she would never admit it. We have sadder nutters in the South.
 
There used to be a bloke who walked around Glasgow city centre backwards. I haven't seen him in years, though.
 
there is someone - don't know if he's a nuter - in Oxford, An aged aged man who is dressed in what looks like a traditional costume from somewhere in east europe and tap dances very very gently and creakily to a little ghetto blaster... I remember seeing some people chucking some flowers at him and him accepting them very gracefully and with profuse thanks
 
If you're ever in Nottingham, look out for the old chap just a little way up from the Broadmarsh centre. He sits outside the shops just opposite WHSmiths, and bangs away randomnly on his xylophone all day long. He's always got a smile on his face, and never asks for money, so one can only assume that he's a very bored eccentric millionaire :)
 
talking of musical weirdos theres an old man who I've seen in doncaster and rotherham who plays an accordian. Oddly, he sings and it sounds like it's a recording of someone singing in a small room
 
There used to be an old man who'd wonder around stoke singing out loud "raw hide" (rollin, rollin, rollin...) and 1 day i saw him pretending to shoot at a war memorial statue in the middle of a roundabout and roll around in the roundabouts shrubs.
Also he used to go into the restaurant where my mum works and warn her about the rising prices of sugar, or beans (depending what mood he was in).
I saw him just before christmas and as i worked past he wished me happy christmas. He's great, hehe.

JK
 
Faggus said:
there is someone - don't know if he's a nuter - in Oxford, An aged aged man who is dressed in what looks like a traditional costume from somewhere in east europe and tap dances very very gently and creakily to a little ghetto blaster... I remember seeing some people chucking some flowers at him and him accepting them very gracefully and with profuse thanks

Is this the same man who used to hand out leaflets detailing his persecution by the police, City council, MI5 etc, and asking the recipients to send the names and addresses of all the women of childbearing age they knew to him? He signed himself "Wise Man".
 
For years the most entertaining chap in Norwich was 'Marigold'. He used to stand on the ring road and direct the traffic wearing (you've guessed it) a bright yellow pair of Marigold gloves. Apparently he's got 'better' now? good for him really.


My sister and I were on holiday once and we stopped off in Aberystwyth. On the funicular (?) railway there was the excellent poster 'DRUGS LEADS TO RUINATION' (sic) - a slogan which we have often shouted to each other ever since.
 
An aged aged man who is dressed in what looks like a traditional costume from somewhere in east europe and tap dances very very gently and creakily to a little ghetto blaster...

I knew that guy too, Faggus. He was a few cuts above the usual ranting nutcase. Haven't seen him the last couple of times I've come back to Oxford, though.

A favourite of mine is the guy who used to stand at the bottom of some tube escalator in London (King's Cross?), dressed in a panda suit, pretending to play a child's toy trumpet along to a tape of various cheesy synth versions of well-known tunes being played by his ghetto blaster. Always there, rain or shine.
 
I love these harmless nutters! The type that don't harm anyone, but just go about their eccentric business, doing their own thing. Long may they live - they brighten up the place.

I remember the Oxford Street Nutter, and once bought one of his leaflets, but unfortunately didn't keep it.

Carole
 
a few more for the mix

I worked the graveyard shift at a convenience store for a couple of years and I have strong memories of a couple of odd "people," but this guy really stands out.

Picture a guy built on the proportions of Hagrid from Harrry Potter-he had to stoop to get in the door which was about 7 feet high. He was was wearing an old green army jacket with the sleeves rolled up (or maybe they were just too short because he was so big) over a pair of vertical striped railroad overalls, without a shirt. His pant legs ended mid-calf and he had big black workboots on his feet. He had hair/fur, like a dog w/a curly coat, on his shoulders and arms and the peekaboo chest and back areas underneath the overall straps. He was filthy--not like a bum or wino is filthy, he didn't smell of urine or body odor--but he was covered in smears that looked like oil, on his face and hands and bared skin, and he smelled like asphalt, like he was sweating it, the was some people sweat curry. Even though he was truly gigantic to begin with, his head was even massively larger, out of proportion to his body. He had a tangly black beard and a mane of tangly black hair and the overall effect, with the large head, made him look kind of leonine. His face had bumps or welts all over it, like a cartoon character that has been caught by a swarm of bees. Yet the weirdest thing of all wasn't his appearance, but the fact that honey bees were flying in and out of his coat pockets. Truly!

When I saw him walk in I really thought that I was seeing a real life troll or ogre. But even though everything about him was off kilter in some way, I wasn't at all scared--this guy just exuded some quality that said harmless and friendly. I don't remember what color his eyes were but they were cheerful and twinkly, a la the Santa myth. He didn't talk, just picked up a quart of oil and smiled and nodded, then smiled and nodded some more when I told him the price, then pulled out a bunch of bills and change and handed it to me, which I sorted out for him and gave him the rest back. It was weird, but I didn't get the idea he didn't understand, like with some of the non-English speaking customers. He seemed comprehensive, just not fully functional.

I saw him once more, about a month later, with the same getup, bought a quart of oil, bees flying out of his pockets. Then I never saw him again. That's the first time I ever suspected that there might be people on this world who aren't human.
 
WTF?!

Just to let readers know - I was so engrossed in that last story that I left the tap running in the kitchen would have flooded the place if it hadn't been for the cat. ( He didn't turn the tap off, just came in and yelled at me).
 
Okay, got your taps turned off? Domino's Delivery Gnomes

The other "creatures" that I encountered while working at the convenience store overnight didn't make such a big impression on me when I first met them, but gradually I began to suspect that something wasn't quite normal about them.

One night in early summer a guy pulls up in a battered purple Gremlin with one of those Domino's pyramid signs on the roof, puts in a couple bucks of gas and comes in to pay. I usually read when I had no customers, and didn't pay much attention to the people as they were pumping, so I was suprised when what looked like a 12 year old boy came in to pay. I kept looking for his mom or an older friend, but there was no one else, just him.

He had really greasy dirty-dishwater blonde hair, brushed forward in a kind of forelock, like the way Uriah Heep is depicted. He was wearing a Domino's hat on backwards, a Domino's uniform shirt that nearly came to his knees, jeans and tennis shoes. His clothes and his skin were slightly dusty with some sort of gritty powdered chalk. I figured it was pizza flour until I swept up some of his footprints and realized that the substance was more like crumbled plaster.

Even though he was small--I'm 5'5 and he came up to my chin--his shoulders and back were really muscular, so much so that he was hunched over. His skin had a really weird yellow-ochre complexion to it--like jaundice yellow mixed with white clay. His face was liberally sprinkled with acne, and he had a large bulbous nose, like my old German grandpa who really liked his beer. He was just plain ugly, and when he smiled it didn't get any better--he didn't have enough teeth.

He didn't have gaps like he'd lost them, his gum area was not just receded, but shrunken and wouldn't have been able to hold the normal number of teeth. His teeth were shaped weird, too--the closest thing I've seen to it before was a kid at school who hadn't gotten enough of some vitamin while he was in the womb and his teeth were spindly at the ends, almost fanglike, but more whittled down looking. This guy had that effect going on, but with less teeth all over.

His one other oddity was that his arms were so long they almost reached his knees--or maybe it was an effect given off because he had the longest hands and fingers I have ever seen in my life-- kind tree-froggish or like Nosferatu.

This was before I met the bee-guy so I just assumed he was some sort of runty, inbred, extremely ugly 18 or 19 year-old who lifted weights.

A couple nights later he comes in again, buys another $2.00 gas. I make small talk--get those pizzas delivered before they got cold? He obviously has no clue what I'm talking about. I remind him of the other night, and he tells me this is his first night, that he just started as a driver. I look out and see that it's not the purple Gremlin, but a purple Pinto. I couldn't believe it wasn't the same guy.

I would see these guys probably 3 nights a week for over three months, mostly apart but sometimes together. They claimed that they weren't related and hadn't known each other before they started driving for Domino's. I learned their names at one time but promptly forgot them because I couldn't keep them straight.

When they talked all they talked about was money, but in a weird way. Most teens talk about how they are going to spend the money--concerts, cars, clothes. These guys just talked about the money and how they preferred change to cash. They would meticulously tally their tips, each had one of those giant plastic "soda bottle" banks in their car and took great joy in filling it. They gloated over the fact that they only kept just the minimum amount of gas in their cars to do their runs and didn't spend a penny more than they had to.

Everytime I saw them I became more and more certain that there was more to them than could be accounted for by rational explanation. One time they came in when I had some of the usual teenage hangers-on were visiting and I wondered how I could have ever mistaken them for deformed teenagers. Despite their small size and acne and muscles, there was just something creepily wizened and old about them in comparison to the normal teenagers. Another time they came in and bought burritos which they heated up in the microwave and ate on the premises. One of them had the hot plastic 3"x6" package in his hand. He was having trouble opening it, so I turned to get a pair of scissors. I turned back and all that was left was the wrapper on the counter--the burrito was totally gone-he wasn't even still chewing. It was like he had managed to swallow it whole.

I spoke to their manager once when he came in to buy beer. He confirmed that they didn't seem to be related and hadn't seemed to know each other before they started working together. He said that according to their papers, one was 29 and the other was 27. Talk about your stunted growth. He had no idea where they lived, he suspected that they lived in their cars or camped out somewhere. Everyonce in a while he had to ask them to bathe, but otherwise they were good, though extremely odd employees. He had heard a rumor that when they went to cash their checks they asked to be paid in rolls of coins instead of cash.

It wasn't until after I met the guy with the bees flying out of this coat that I begin to wonder if they too might be "others" trying to pass themselves off as human. I started to wonder how much oddness we just rationalize away without examination because we don't believe it can exist. The bee guy and the pizza gnomes might have had a hard time passing as one of us in the 8-5 world, but in the 11-7 world, they could pretty much go unremarked upon, even in such a non-diverse place as Des Moines. In our "consensus reality" most people see what they expect to see and discard or disregard any dissonance. And most of us really don't look too close at what we see in the dark.

I stopped working there at the end of the summer to go back to school. The Domino's Pizza delivery gnomes may still be out there somewhere, so next time you get a pizza ask your delivery person if they'd rather be tipped in change.
 
Tattoo Ted, your story was great. To me, the odd folks are even more odd when you encounter them in the context of your normal life.

I'm convinced that the greengrocer in the marketplace where I used to live was not 100% pure human.

The man was short, maybe only 4'11" and had a face I would decribe as "elfin", and rather longish hands, a bit like your pizza gnomes, Ted, and the brightest green eyes I ever saw. Not like greenish grey or pale green. Intense spring leaf green. I was sure he was wearing those colored contacts, and one day I asked. No, he said, "my vision is better than most people's" with a big grin. But the thing that convinced me was, he had pointed ears! Not just a bit of a peak at the top of normal ears, but more like Mr. Spock's ears on the old Star Trek episodes. Very narrow and very, very long, with a sharp point at the top....

His behavior seemed normal enough, although he seemed to be an exceptionally hard worker. He was never not busy when I came in, no matter when that was. He was also the best greengrocer I ever met. I got to the point where I'd simply write down a list and give it to him, then go do the rest of my shopping. When I got back, he's have filled my order, and it was always the best. Once in a while he's say something like "oh, we have tomatoes but you don't want those" and he was right, the few times I insisted.

So, what was he, a woodland sprite moved to the big city? Or just a throwback to an elvish ancestor? I dunno.
 
Having been shopping for fruit'n'veg today, I wish we had someone like that around here, FA!

(Our local greengrocer is somewhat gnomelike, but not in a Fortean way, as far as I know! I think of him more as a spider, as he sits in the corner of his shop just waiting for customers to fall into his clutches...)
 
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