Provisional Freemasonry
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We meant for it to be that way.
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And America too.... so why did they fight all this time, fiendish indeed!
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Sanity Warning.
Leave well alone. Start joining the dots and the pictures you
see give you nightmares. :eek!!!!:
Leave well alone. Start joining the dots and the pictures you
see give you nightmares. :eek!!!!:
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ah but thats what they expect u to do!... leave to dots unjoined and have nightmares anyway.
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Beyond Craft Masonry
Only to those Master Masons who elect to be exalted to the Holy Royal Arch degree of Masonry is the “lost name” of their supreme being revealed. This “Grand Omnific Royal Arch Word” and “ineffable name” is contrary to everything ordinary Craft Freemasons have previously been told about the Mason’s god: TGAOTU (The Great Architect of the Universe). They cease to be free to believe in a generic term for God, according to their personal creed, or religion, but must now subscribe to Freemasonry’s idolatrous, unholy and counterfeit trinity composed of three deities: JAH-BUL-ON. (1) Jahweh, the Old Testament or Jewish Tanakh name for Almighty God; (2) Baal, the Canaanite fertility god associated with licentious rites and imitative magic; and (3) Osiris, the Ancient Egyptian god of the underworld.
The 16th century demonologist, John Weir, identified Baal as a demon.
Freemasonry is found to be contrary to the first three of the ten commandments, and denies Christ as “Lord of Lords and King of Kings” and “the only name by which we are saved.” In the words of leading American Mason Albert Pike, Jahbulon is “a mongrel word, in part composed of the name of an accursed and beastly heathen god whose name has been for more than two thousand years an appellation of the Devil.”
In Morals and Dogma, Pike states that Masonry is the universal religion and that senior Masons take a conscious decision to mislead and deceive those in the lower degrees: “There true interpretation is reserved for the Princes of Masonry.”
Only to those Master Masons who elect to be exalted to the Holy Royal Arch degree of Masonry is the “lost name” of their supreme being revealed. This “Grand Omnific Royal Arch Word” and “ineffable name” is contrary to everything ordinary Craft Freemasons have previously been told about the Mason’s god: TGAOTU (The Great Architect of the Universe). They cease to be free to believe in a generic term for God, according to their personal creed, or religion, but must now subscribe to Freemasonry’s idolatrous, unholy and counterfeit trinity composed of three deities: JAH-BUL-ON. (1) Jahweh, the Old Testament or Jewish Tanakh name for Almighty God; (2) Baal, the Canaanite fertility god associated with licentious rites and imitative magic; and (3) Osiris, the Ancient Egyptian god of the underworld.
The 16th century demonologist, John Weir, identified Baal as a demon.
Freemasonry is found to be contrary to the first three of the ten commandments, and denies Christ as “Lord of Lords and King of Kings” and “the only name by which we are saved.” In the words of leading American Mason Albert Pike, Jahbulon is “a mongrel word, in part composed of the name of an accursed and beastly heathen god whose name has been for more than two thousand years an appellation of the Devil.”
In Morals and Dogma, Pike states that Masonry is the universal religion and that senior Masons take a conscious decision to mislead and deceive those in the lower degrees: “There true interpretation is reserved for the Princes of Masonry.”
Lest we forget, the Russian Kerensky goverment allowed movies of any subject matter to be produced, including hardcore pornography.
Not that many made porn, but it made for an excellent opportunity to delve into some real issues, mainstream and avant-garde, that were never presented to the film community in Russia before.
You try to do better in the 1910s.
And from a filmmaker's perspective, that was a DAMN lot of freedom. Nothing was taboo. Not that their freedom lasted very long.
Not that many made porn, but it made for an excellent opportunity to delve into some real issues, mainstream and avant-garde, that were never presented to the film community in Russia before.
You try to do better in the 1910s.
And from a filmmaker's perspective, that was a DAMN lot of freedom. Nothing was taboo. Not that their freedom lasted very long.
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Do What Thou Wilt ~ A Perverts Charter!
Is that sort of anarchic existence a good thing? Perhaps for paedophiles and other vile deviants and perverts, but surely the only losers were decent folk who behaved honestly and as God and nature intended. Aleister Crowley, in his own way, exhumed the axiom of "Do What Thou Wilt" in Edwardian England and Fascist Italy with appalling consequences. If that's your idea of Utopia, it certainly isn't mine!
Is that sort of anarchic existence a good thing? Perhaps for paedophiles and other vile deviants and perverts, but surely the only losers were decent folk who behaved honestly and as God and nature intended. Aleister Crowley, in his own way, exhumed the axiom of "Do What Thou Wilt" in Edwardian England and Fascist Italy with appalling consequences. If that's your idea of Utopia, it certainly isn't mine!
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1) Surely in Xtian terms its only God who could have intentions? The attribution of intentions to nature is surely a pagan heresy, and we know from other postings how strongly you feel about that
2)'Vile deviants and perverts' means merely 'people whose sexual activity I disapprove of'.
3) Outside of the Denis Wheatley Library of Reactionary Nonsense, I'm unaware of anyone who sees a link between Crowley and the Russian Revolution, if this is what you're implying.
And BTW
Well there's a piece of astonishing news! 'Demonologist identifies demon!' Actually, Baal is one of the rival tribal deities to YHWH, in the Middle East in the Old Testament period so his identification as a demon by an Xtian is hardly unbiased.
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"'Vile deviants and perverts' means merely 'people whose sexual activity I disapprove of'." - WINTERMUTE
It actually applies to those who molest children, engage in animal intercourse, sodomise everything in sight etc, and who seek to deprave others.
Deviant means deviating from the natural.
Pervert means perverting (altering) the natural.
Nobody loved nature more than St Francis of Assisi, who is certainly one of my own inspirations. But St Francis was hardly a pagan.
It actually applies to those who molest children, engage in animal intercourse, sodomise everything in sight etc, and who seek to deprave others.
Deviant means deviating from the natural.
Pervert means perverting (altering) the natural.
Nobody loved nature more than St Francis of Assisi, who is certainly one of my own inspirations. But St Francis was hardly a pagan.
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Exorcistate said:
Hmmmm. Exie, are you wearing clothing right now? Do you ever? You deviant you!!! Your natual state is surely the state in which you were born, i.e. naked. By wearing clothing, by your own definition, you thus reveal yourself to all as a deviant...or a pervert, if you prefer that moniker.
False logic is such a lovely tool when we apply it to our own ends, wouldn't you agree?
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Nice to know there are some places where (fallen) angels do not fear to tread!
But I suspect that you will only provoke more lengthy essays from exo (who incidentally, seems to know far more about Bishop Manchester than anyone not living in the same skin has a right to know).
But I suspect that you will only provoke more lengthy essays from exo (who incidentally, seems to know far more about Bishop Manchester than anyone not living in the same skin has a right to know).
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"The 16th century demonologist, John Weir, identified Baal as a demon."
Surely Baal was an early Semite god of fertility. Got to be a demon by xtian middle ages definition then.
Surely Baal was an early Semite god of fertility. Got to be a demon by xtian middle ages definition then.
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Naked Is Not Perverted!
"Are you wearing clothing right now? Do you ever? You deviant you!!! Your natual state is surely the state in which you were born, i.e. naked." - FALLEN ANGEL
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Since when has being naked, by any standard, been deviant?
When St Francis of Assisi founded his Order, he took off all his clothes in full public view and walked off into the countryside.
How can the naked body be equated with deviant behaviour?
Paedophilia, animal intercourse, deviant sexual behaviour involving bisexual orgies etc etc is grossly unnatural behaviour. It is perverting the naturally intended order of things and making unclean and foul the beauty of the human body (whether it is naked or clothed) and, no less important, the human mind.
We are obviously not going to agree on this; so we must agree to disagree and leave it there.
"Are you wearing clothing right now? Do you ever? You deviant you!!! Your natual state is surely the state in which you were born, i.e. naked." - FALLEN ANGEL
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Since when has being naked, by any standard, been deviant?
When St Francis of Assisi founded his Order, he took off all his clothes in full public view and walked off into the countryside.
How can the naked body be equated with deviant behaviour?
Paedophilia, animal intercourse, deviant sexual behaviour involving bisexual orgies etc etc is grossly unnatural behaviour. It is perverting the naturally intended order of things and making unclean and foul the beauty of the human body (whether it is naked or clothed) and, no less important, the human mind.
We are obviously not going to agree on this; so we must agree to disagree and leave it there.
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Re: Naked Is Not Perverted!
Surely the point Fallen Angel was making is that you probably DON'T go round in the nip, so just the fact that you WEAR clothes is, by your own definition, perverted just because it's not 'natural'. There's loads of things that argument could be applied to. Crikey O'Reilly!!! Why don't you read the actual words that have been written???
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Surely the point Fallen Angel was making is that you probably DON'T go round in the nip, so just the fact that you WEAR clothes is, by your own definition, perverted just because it's not 'natural'. There's loads of things that argument could be applied to. Crikey O'Reilly!!! Why don't you read the actual words that have been written???
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Unlawful is not the same being deviant ...
Various cultures and countries have laws, some of which are peculiar, that prevent us doing certain things which, to us, seem perfectly reasonable and innocent ... perhaps.
But these prohibitions are not necessarily indications of deviant or degenerate behaviour.
For example, in many Islamic countries I would be arrested and imprisoned for openly wearing a crucifix or carrying a copy of the New Testament. They would consider that unlawful, just as in our usually much colder climate it has, via tradition and culture, become unlawful to reveal the reproductice genitals by going totally naked down the high street.
Now wearing a cross or walking naked is not of itself degenerate, but, in differing cultures and countries, each will be regarded as unlawful.
Various cultures and countries have laws, some of which are peculiar, that prevent us doing certain things which, to us, seem perfectly reasonable and innocent ... perhaps.
But these prohibitions are not necessarily indications of deviant or degenerate behaviour.
For example, in many Islamic countries I would be arrested and imprisoned for openly wearing a crucifix or carrying a copy of the New Testament. They would consider that unlawful, just as in our usually much colder climate it has, via tradition and culture, become unlawful to reveal the reproductice genitals by going totally naked down the high street.
Now wearing a cross or walking naked is not of itself degenerate, but, in differing cultures and countries, each will be regarded as unlawful.
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http://tracingboard.com/aten.htm
just for interest... Anyone really thought about trying to tie masonic beliefs to Akenaten? There is similar imagery to the All-Seeing Eye on US Dollar bills and the sun's disc with it's rays speading down in the worship of aten.
Anyone linked the temple of Solomon to the temple of Aten?
just for interest... Anyone really thought about trying to tie masonic beliefs to Akenaten? There is similar imagery to the All-Seeing Eye on US Dollar bills and the sun's disc with it's rays speading down in the worship of aten.
Anyone linked the temple of Solomon to the temple of Aten?
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Wow! Is this synchronous posting, or did you see the BBC2 prog last night too, Jack?
See this Thread also
In answer to your question, the programme made a link not to the Temple at Jerusalem but to the Essene establishment at Qumran.
See this Thread also
In answer to your question, the programme made a link not to the Temple at Jerusalem but to the Essene establishment at Qumran.
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There is actually very little archaeological evidence to link Khirbet Qumran with the Essenes. There is even less to to connect the site with the scrolls.
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As a former student of archaeology I must remind you therion that "a lack of evidence is not evidence of lack..." 
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I agree that paedophilia is abhorent and is certainly un-natural.
Incest is abhorant but is not unnatural - check out of animals that live in groups. The dominant breeding beast will mate with uncles/aunts, brothers/sisters, father/mother.
Homosexuality is neither abhorant or unnatural it has been noted amongst horses, wolves, dolphins, chimps and even penguins and seagulls.
Then you start talking about deceit, theft, bullying even murder - it's all natural.
Oh and in none of these cases am I talking about domesticated or zoo kept creatures, just wild ones. Hey, God musta made the whole world perverted (not).
I agree that paedophilia is abhorent and is certainly un-natural.
Incest is abhorant but is not unnatural - check out of animals that live in groups. The dominant breeding beast will mate with uncles/aunts, brothers/sisters, father/mother.
Homosexuality is neither abhorant or unnatural it has been noted amongst horses, wolves, dolphins, chimps and even penguins and seagulls.
Then you start talking about deceit, theft, bullying even murder - it's all natural.
Oh and in none of these cases am I talking about domesticated or zoo kept creatures, just wild ones. Hey, God musta made the whole world perverted (not).