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Self-immolating monks

There does seem to be a bit of a tradition for this kind of thing:

Monk sets himself on fire in protest

12/26/2003 7:32 AM
By: Mercer Merrill, News 14 Carolina, and The Associated Press


CHARLOTTE, N.C. – A Vietnamese-born Buddhist monk who set himself on fire outside a pagoda in Charlotte sacrificed himself to call for an end to religious repression in his native country, a Paris-based Buddhist support organization said Friday.

Thich Chan Hy, 74, set himself on fire at 5 a.m. Wednesday at an altar outside the Lien Hoa Pagoda in Charlotte. He did not disclose his plan to anyone and left a note explaining his act as a plea that:

"All Vietnamese may enjoy freedom of religion and belief. I wish that all Vietnamese will be entitled to human rights and democracy," according to a statement from the Paris-based International Buddhist Information Bureau.

Hy's letter also commented on recent criticism from Europe, Australia and the United States about Vietnam's human rights record and called for Vietnam to preserve the sovereignty of its borders.

"I feel so helpless and inadequate," the bureau quoted the letter as saying. "I therefore make the offering of my body, and pray that my appeal will be heard."

Members of the Lien Hoa Temple in Charlotte paid their respects to the monk Wednesday.

"It comes as a very big surprise to everyone here at the temple," said Phuong Huynh, a youth group leader at the temple.

The marks of the blaze are still visible on temple grounds where Hy set himself on fire.

"In light of the events, everybody has come to the temple to digest what has happened and learn to understand his reasons," said Huynh.

Hy, whose secular name was Le Ve, left communist Vietnam in 1991 after spending several years in a re-education camp there. A veteran of the U.S.-backed South Vietnamese army, Hy joined the Lien Hoa Pagoda in 1994.

Self-immolation was used as a form of protest during the Vietnam War, and a well-known image was captured of a Buddhist monk setting himself on fire in what was then Saigon.

"He decided to take his life for this ultimate sacrifice and help those who can't protect themselves," said Huynh.

The people of the temple said they want the community to understand this act was not suicide.

"It's an ultimate sacrifice that's he has done," Huynh explained.

Now, as his followers laid fruit and flower offerings in his memory, they are dealing with their own loss of a spiritual leader of 10 years.

Vietnamese officials in Hanoi did not immediately comment Friday. The government maintains that it only punishes lawbreakers and does not restrict religious freedoms. However, only a handful of state-sponsored religions are recognized and permitted to function.

The European Parliament and the U.S. Congress have both condemned crackdowns on religious freedom and dissidents.

In the U.S. State Department's annual report on religion released last week, it categorized Vietnam as a totalitarian or authoritarian country that attempts to control religious belief or practice.

The temple remains open to the public for anyone who wants to pay their respects to the monk.

http://www.news14charlotte.com/content/local_news/?ArID=49760&SecID=2
 
Ah, that good old Buddist Gag, the Self Immoliating Monk!

(Every temple should have one)

No, that is by no means a new thing. One monk did it in front of Alexanders army. (Remember him? He tried to conquer the world but had to give up when he discovered it was bigger than his map said...) Another went all the way to Athens to do it, and sent the good citzens speculating on the reasons behind this strange act for a century.

(Ill find you the details on these cases if I can be bothered.)

At least these days we understand why.
 
How very sad. And I thought that Buddhism was the world's only truly peaceful religion.

One hears a lot about Buddhists being pacifist and totally forgiving even if someone commits a totally evil crime against them. I seem to remember that the parents of Buddhist Patrick Duffy (of Dallas fame) were murdered, but he did not express the slightest hatred or anger at the killer. Amazing.

As I understand it, this stems from their belief about the karmic cycle, i.e. that what happens to you in this life, is as a result of one's past wrongdoing, either in this life or past lives. I'm not an expert on Buddhism and I could be wrong about this.

However, if they permit suicide, isn't that at least half as bad? Not as bad as killing someone else, of course, but still bad. The supreme being would not be happy with you, because you had the rest of your life to do good in the world, which you destroyed by your own selfish suicide.

Maybe there's another truly peaceful religion somewhere which forbids suicide as well as harming others. I dunno.

Big Bill Robinson
 
This notion of buddist being pacifists stems from my embarrasing buddist friends whos attitude in life is `its ok to hit me, Im a buddist`

And guess what? They are always getting bashed!

Traditional buddists certainly would not have had that attitude. theres was more like `I might not start a fight but I sure can finish one`

(Where do martial arts come from?)

One thing unusual (but by no means unknown!) in buddism was the notion of fighting over religion. The sects fought an awful lot, but almost always over material things. (Japanese history is full of happy warrior monks.)
 
However, if they permit suicide, isn't that at least half as bad? Not as bad as killing someone else, of course, but still bad. The supreme being would not be happy with you, because you had the rest of your life to do good in the world, which you destroyed by your own selfish suicide.

There's no 'supreme being' in Buddhism who causes the laws of nature (including Karam) to work - they just work by themselves.

Athough killing is seen as a VERY big taboo in Buddhism, including suicide, it is not rigidly ruled out. Since you kill accidentally, such as when you brush your teeth, it can't actually be avoided. It is to be reasonably minimised however. Any action caused by hate, greed or delusion (the 'three poisons' of mind) are going to have at least some negative consequenses.

However, as explaned in the article, this wasn't a 'selfish suicide', but was rather done to make a non-violent protest at a nasty situation. Part of Mahayana Buddhist ideology is that a truly dedicated person will make any personal sacrifice to end the suffering of living beings, even themselves if need be. The stories of the Buddha's previous lives - the Jataka tales - are full of such incidents.

It's similar to the notion of a 'war hero' going on some crazy suicide mission to help his fellow soldiers and hopefully shorten a war's length. Is that suicide? Is suicide always wrong if it's for a good reason? You're going to die anyway, what if you could really make it count? Interesting ethical questions.

The notion of 'pacisifsm' is another misunderstanding of Buddhism as are Karma, rebirth etc. that are very common in the west, even by those who are practicing Buddhists. HOwever, life is seen as being vvery precious, and killing is certainly avoided as much as possible - the first precept of Buddhism is "I undertake to avoid harming other sentient beings". Note that it's "I will avoid" not "I will never". It's important to be pragmatic, such as in cases when harming or killing an individual will save many more.
 
If it is indeed the karmic cycle, then wouldn't suicide also figure into it? As well as violence?

Suicide may be considered selfish by our perspective, but could be a matter of que-cera-cera by others.
 
It does seem an extreme form of protest:

Asylum seeker sets himself ablaze

BY ANDREW SAGAYAM


KUALA LUMPUR: An asylum seeker died nine hours after he set himself ablaze in front of stunned onlookers outside a United Nations refugee agency here yesterday.

Fifty-year-old Gulam Hassan Anwari, who claimed to be an Iranian, torched himself in a desperate bid to draw attention to his failed business dealings, minutes after getting out of a taxi at the office of the UN High Commission for Refugees (UNHCR) in Jalan Bukit Petaling at about 11.10am.

He was rushed in an ambulance to the Kuala Lumpur Hospital where he was placed under a life support system at the intensive care unit. He died at 8.30pm.

Gulam had thrown a handwritten four-page letter at the feet of several reporters outside the UNHCR office soon after his arrival there, accompanied by an unidentified woman.

He then casually flicked a cigarette lighter to the hem of his short-sleeved shirt. His petrol-doused body immediately went up in flames.

As he wailed in pain and staggered towards the entrance, he howled out words that sounded like “Bunuh, bunuh orang bohong (Kill, kill the cheats).”

Gulam had repeatedly called the media over the past 48 hours about his plan for self-immolation and the press had also alerted the police about his threat.

A patrol car passed by the place about 20 minutes before the incident but Brickfields deputy OCPD Supt Kuzi Minai said they could not pick out Gulam from the crowd because they had no description of him.

Gulam, who claimed to be from Baluchistan, on the Iran-Pakistan border, said in his letter that he came to Malaysia on a Pakistani passport in 2001.


HUMAN TORCH:Gulam writhing in agony after being engulfed in flames outside the UNHCR office in Kuala Lumpur yesterday.
He said he wanted to end his life because he had been ill-treated and cheated by two foreign businessmen.

He said he was also utterly disappointed after his application to obtain refugee status was rejected by the UNHCR.

As Gulam torched himself, the shocked crowd of some 20 to 30 people stood rooted at the spot, and the young woman who had accompanied him became hysterical. Guards at the place quickly alerted UNHCR staff.

A taxi driver waiting for passengers nearby rushed to get a fire extinguisher from his car to douse the burning body while UNHCR staff brought out a blanket to cover him. They also helped him to a drink from a bottle and a chair for him to sit on.

One reporter called the police while the others stopped an ambulance team from Kuala Lumpur Hospital that was on its way to the nearby Istana Negara for standby duty.

UNHCR protection officer Shinji Kubo said they interviewed Gulam two years ago and rejected his appeal for refugee status because there were no grounds for approval.

“After the two interviews in 2002, we had not been in contact. Neither were there e-mails or letters sent by him since then,” Shinji said, and added that the case was closed.

Gulam’s business grievances, as narrated in his letter, touched on allegations of drug dealings and money laundering by a local company that supplied him scarves and dates to sell in the city’s Masjid India area.

He claimed to have been cheated of his dues although he had helped the company sell RM800,000 worth of scarves and two container-loads of dates.

He alleged that the company was a front for illegal businesses such as passport forgeries, drug sales and robberies.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2004/1/28/nation/7192075&sec=nation

If you want to see pictures (well you might) there is one in the above article and one in this Norwegian article:

http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=211850

Emps
 
Emperor said:
It does seem an extreme form of protest:

It seems frankly self-defeating. His protest hurt him far worse than any amount of being cheated could ever have done.
 
Usually just the preserve of prtesting Buddhist monks but.......

School treasurer dies in apparent suicide


C.W. Nevius

Friday, April 23, 2004



A Walnut Creek high school official died Thursday after burning himself in an apparent suicide in the parking lot of a Concord apartment complex Wednesday night.

Concord police say Eugene "Gene" Faust doused himself with gasoline and set himself and his car ablaze at the Valley Crest Condominiums about 8:20 p.m. Bystanders extinguished the flames, and Faust was flown to Doctors Medical Center San Pablo.

He was removed from life support about 1 p.m. Thursday.

Faust, 61, was the treasurer at Northgate High School and a familiar and well-liked figure on the campus. He sold tickets for athletic events, actively supported the teams and often chaperoned school dances.

He'd had a successful corporate career before retiring and devoting his energies to working with the school.

According to a Concord police spokesman, Faust had been served with divorce papers Wednesday.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/04/23/BAG936927O1.DTL

Gene Faust is also a great name.

Emps
 
Iranian sets himself on fire

Blaze extinguished quickly; man will survive

By GREGORY A. HALL
[email protected]
The Courier-Journal



BY PAT McDONOGH, THE COURIER-JOURNAL

An Iranian immigrant whom friends described as ill and worried about his bills set himself on fire just before 10 a.m. yesterday outside the Hall of Justice.

Morteza Mehrpou, 48, shouted something repeatedly — witnesses differ on what they heard — and then poured gasoline over himself from a half-gallon plastic jug before igniting it with a lighter.

He was in stable condition yesterday at University Hospital and is expected to survive, said Maj. Henry Ott of Louisville Fire & Rescue's arson division.

With the help of interpreters, Mehrpou told investigators that he set himself ablaze as "a political protest about the treatment of refugees in this country," Ott said. The man "was very specific about that."

Mehrpou was being held at the hospital both for treatment and on a mental inquest warrant, which was obtained after the incident, Ott said

Iksa Ageili, a friend and neighbor at the Americana Apartments, said she's known Mehrpou for about a year. He has no family in the area, she said.

Ageili said that Mehrpou has hepatitis and that the power in his apartment was cut off about a week ago.

She said that he was not being evicted and that Catholic Charities had agreed to pay the bills. But Mehrpou was upset with the agency over delays in making payment, Ageili said.

Cecelia Price, a spokeswoman for the Archdiocese of Louisville, confirmed yesterday that the man who set himself on fire is a Catholic Charities client. She said she could not discuss his case because of confidentiality issues.

Ageili said Mehrpou ate a meal with her around 4 p.m. Thursday and was upset about the unpaid bills. She also spoke to him by phone around 11 p.m. and he said he was out walking, she said.

"I wasn't sure" whether he would do something drastic, Ageili said, although Mehrpou appeared to be angry. She said he has never shown any signs of mental problems.

Another friend, Zuber Arif, said Mehrpou would visit his apartment occasionally. Arif said he hadn't spoken to Mehrpou in a couple of weeks but saw him in passing last week. Arif said he hadn't noticed anything that made him worried.

MEHRPOU is limited in what he can do because of his health problems, and he had been fired from a job, Arif said. He could not provide any information about that job.

Mehrpou told investigators that he had sent letters to Gov. Ernie Fletcher and Mayor Jerry Abramson, Ott said. A spokesman for Abramson said he could not find any such letter yesterday.

A call to a spokeswoman for the governor was not returned.

The fire took place on one of the busiest pedestrian corners in downtown Louisville — in front of the main entrance to the Hall of Justice at the corner of Sixth and Jefferson streets, where people congregate and courthouse employees smoke.

Witnesses said Mehrpou, who was shouting, came from the Sixth Street side and stopped just under an overhang near the entrance, which overlooks a plaza that extends to the corner.

Sharon Williams, a deputy clerk with the Jefferson Circuit Court Clerk's office who was on a smoke break, said the man repeatedly said, "Whose fault is it now?"

"He just kept saying it over and over," she said.

Other witnesses said they thought he was repeating something in a language other than English.

Some witnesses said at least one of the papers that Mehrpou carried had "who's responsible" written on it.

Williams said she saw someone call 911 on a cell phone. In the meantime, police and deputies were converging at the corner.

Two men taunted the man, told police to shoot him and dared the man to ignite himself, Williams said. She said police yelled at the men to shut up.

The man moved a few feet out from the overhang, to the plaza, Williams said, as one officer talked to him and told him that everything would be OK.

The man then tapped his head with the lighter, Williams said, setting himself ablaze.

THE FIRE was put out quickly by Sgt. Robert Calbert of the Jefferson County Sheriff's Department, who had arrived with an extinguisher, and other law enforcement officials.

Williams, interviewed later in her office, wept as she described what she had seen.

"I didn't think he was going to do it," she said.

Angela Burch, who was visiting the courthouse, said she was standing outside when the man walked up and started yelling.

"He was very angry," she said.

Burch, who carries a tape recorder, said she hit the record button.

"It was definitely Arabic," she said. Burch said that she used to care for children of Arabian descent and that their mother told her how to say "quiet" in Arabic.

Burch said she yelled the word to the man before he set himself on fire, and he paused briefly.

The man doused himself in what she said she initially thought was lemonade or Gatorade. Then she noticed the smell of gasoline, she said.

She said she gave the tape recorder to another man nearby and went inside to notify deputies.

"It just scared me to no end," said Burch, who said she dropped to her knees and prayed for the man.

She estimated that the incident lasted about five minutes.

Two people inside the courthouse said they could hear the commotion through the windows.

Maureen Kyle, a reporter with WAVE-3, said she heard the man shouting while she was in a second-floor office inside the Hall of Justice.

She said she saw the man's sign and the half-gallon jug and then saw him douse himself. He appeared to have something behind his back, which she said she believes was the lighter.

BY THAT TIME a couple of police officers had gathered but kept a distance away from the man, she said.

"He looked like he was getting anxious," Kyle said. "His screams became louder."

Kyle was next to deputy clerk Alice Lucas, who also listened and watched from the window.

Lucas said the man tried to remove a nylon jacket he was wearing just after he ignited himself.

David Beyer, a spokesman for the FBI in Louisville, said the bureau investigated "out of an abundance of caution" to see whether the incident was related to terrorism or the federal government.

Although agents are still investigating, "based on what we have determined this far, it appears to be personal in nature," he said.

http://www.courier-journal.com/localnews/2004/06/19ky/B1-burn06190-9466.html
 
Family sees flaming suicide



LINDSAY FABER

July 26, 2004


A Jamaica man distraught over a fight with his wife killed himself in their yard yesterday by dousing himself in gasoline and lighting himself on fire, police said.

Rishiram Sawak, 48, poured gasoline over his head and body in his family's backyard on 126th Street around 3 p.m., after a quarrel with his 34-year-old wife. He then ran around to the front yard and lit himself on fire as his family watched in horror.

Sawak was covered in third-degree burns and succumbed to them shortly after. He was pronounced dead on arrival at Jamaica Hospital Medical Center.

Police said Sawak and his wife had a history of domestic incidents.

http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local...6,0,2608904.story?coll=nyc-homepage-headlines
 
This is genuinely one of those things that you wouldn't believe if it was in a film:

Fri 30 Jul 2004

Burning body 'a bizarre suicide'

NICOLA STOW CRIME REPORTER


• Police reveal horrifying death
• Man set himself alight with petrol
• Corpse found wearing handcuffs

DETECTIVES investigating the death of a man whose charred body was found in a dense city woodland believe he took his own life in a bizarre suicide.

It is thought Daniel McMillan dug himself a shallow grave in the grounds of a derelict mansion.

Standing inside the hole, he is believed to have soaked himself in petrol and then handcuffed himself, according to police sources. He then lay down, pulled a metal lid over the grave, set fire to himself and burned to death in his self-made furnace.


The 37-year-old’s body was discovered ablaze in the ditch close to his home by police officers on a routine patrol on Marine Drive, in Granton, after they went to investigate what they suspected to be a forest fire in the grounds of Muirhouse Mansion. The corpse was so badly burned when it was found that it took forensics teams days to establish Mr McMillan’s identity.

But today, a Lothian and Borders Police source revealed the horrific details of how Mr McMillan chose to end his life.

It is understood he had been suffering from mental problems days before he committed the bizarre act.

"The man must have gone into the woods at night and dug his grave," the source said. "He doused himself in petrol, stepped into the grave and handcuffed himself. He then pulled a metal lid over the top of the grave and set fire to himself. It was a very bizarre sequence of events. I know the man was having a few mental problems before he did this - he was thinking all kinds of strange thoughts."

A Lothian and Borders Police spokesman confirmed today that they were no longer looking for any suspects in connection with the Mr McMillan’s death and that a final report is being prepared to send to the procurator fiscal.

The spokesman said that although he couldn’t confirm the exact details of the man’s death, the indication was that he had committed suicide.

Mr McMillan, formerly of Granton Mains Avenue, was finally laid to rest yesterday at Warriston Crematorium in Edinburgh - nine days after his body was found.

A major inquiry was launched following the grim find and Mr McMillan’s death puzzled detectives for days.

They had been reluctant to remove the corpse from the scene in case they destroyed valuable evidence. However, a personal document of Mr McMillan’s found at the scene helped experts to identify the remains.

Mr McMillan, who was thought to have recently become engaged, was last week described as a "nice, friendly man".

Neighbours said they were deeply shocked by what had happened. One local, who did not wish to be named, said: "He was lovely. He had just got engaged to his girlfriend and they seemed really happy - they were a couple in love.

"It is such a shame for his family - they’ve had a lot of tragedy in their lives in the past already."

Another neighbour, Aileen Thomson, 72, said: "I was shocked when the police came round to my house - you just don’t expect this kind of thing to happen on your own doorstep."

The body, which was discovered sheltered by trees just yards from a seaside esplanade, had been burning for a number of hours. A two-square-mile section of woodland overlooking the Firth of Forth was cordoned off as forensic officers combed the area for clues and carried out tests on the remains.

Muirhouse Mansion was once the headquarters for Scottish Gas but has lain derelict and unoccupied for many years.

The area is popular with dog walkers and joggers.

http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=872822004
 
I never understood Maiming or killing yourself as a way of protest,
or getting back at someone.

The person/persons responsible for whatever has wound you up so tight obviously don't give a monkey's about you , so what do you achieve?, in the case of that monk, leaving an annoying pile of soot in the road?
 
The person who commits self-immolation wishes the person(s) who have driven them to such an action to witness the tragic consequences of their actions. They are almost saying "See to what extremes you have driven us to!"

Problem is, the people that they are demonstrating against usually have no moral qualms whatsoever and merely look upon the burning body with a sense of disgust and puzzlement ... not shame!

While this has traditionally been seen as the most extreme demonstration of determination, dedication and despair, there is no real place for it in these "enlightened" and less spiritual times.
 
I feel that suicide, especially of a horrifying public type, will rarely be ignored by the person it is 'aimed' at.

It's bound to reflect badly on them (to say the least) and they will feel responsible to some degree, and fairly guilty too.

This applies anyway to 'personal' reasons for suicide, such as relationship breakups.

I remember, years ago, a friend was raging about a woman who had finished with her boyfriend, a mate of his, who then killed himself.
She should have stayed with him and saved his life, obviously.

I said, who's to say he wouldn't have killed her too, given the chance?
That didn't go down too well. :rolleyes:

Maybe you can tell that I feel strongly about this, and can guess why. :mad:
 
Quote: The person who commits self-immolation wishes the person(s) who have driven them to such an action to witness the tragic consequences of their actions. They are almost saying "See to what extremes you have driven us to!"

I understand this concept, and indeed the points that Escargot has made.

Still these are foriegn ideas to me, as a logical person. Killing yourself to affect someone else seems as sensible as cutting your foot off to get rid of a veruca.

At the end of the day what is the point of doing something terminal to yourself to get a reaction from someone else, if your not going to be around to see the reaction that you are hoping to achieve?

By the way Stormkhan, is your avatar that robot from that 50's Sci/fi film ? I can't remember what it was called, and it's been bugging me.
 
escargot said:
She should have stayed with him and saved his life, obviously.

That kind of extreme emotional blackmail is not exactly a good basis for a loving relationship:

"Oh we've been together for six years because every time I think we should split up, he threatens to commit suicide."

This would make for fun anniversary parties!

Oh, and Infidel - You're right! My avatar is the robot Gort from The Day The Earth Stood Still. Gort was the unrecognised Shakespearian actor who had won many medals for salsa dancing, tiddlywinks and dental flossing, despite being glued into a silver neoprene wetsuit!
:)
 
Parents of rape and suicide victim threaten self-immolation

Express News Service

Hardoi, October 3: Helpless, tormented parents of Dhandevi, who had hanged herself to death on September 24, after being raped, have declared to commit suicide on October 15, in front of the DM office, to protest the working (read the lack of it) of the Hariyawa police.

Rooplal, father of Dhandevi, and a resident of Kothwa village, under Hariyawa police station, has written a letter to the district magistrate, stating that his 15-year-old daughter was raped by Guddu, son of Pandit Chitter Lal, on September 24. After the incident she committed suicide by hanging herself. In the letter, Roop Lal alleged Hariyawa police of threatening him and attempting to shield the culprits.

Distressed father declared in the letter that he along with his wife would commit suicide in front of the DM Office on October 15 in protest.

The police had threatened him for implicating him in his daughter’s murder and had not lodged the report accurately. Roop Lal alleged that Hariyawa police had been favouring the rapist of his daughter.

http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=102041
 
Windsor CAS attacker dies of injuries
Last Updated Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:23:22 EDT

TORONTO - A former employee of the Children's Aid Society who smashed his flaming truck into its building in Windsor has died of his injuries, hospital officials said on Friday.

Jim Malone had stabbed himself and set his body alight before aiming the pickup at the front window of the agency's building at around 7:30 a.m. on Tuesday.

Jim Malone's pickup truck at the CAS building Tuesday.
The truck was loaded with propane tanks and cans of gasoline.

The crash caused about
Windsor CAS attacker dies of injuries
Last Updated Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:23:22 EDT

TORONTO - A former employee of the Children's Aid Society who smashed his flaming truck into its building in Windsor has died of his injuries, hospital officials said on Friday.

Jim Malone had stabbed himself and set his body alight before aiming the pickup at the front window of the agency's building at around 7:30 a.m. on Tuesday.

Jim Malone's pickup truck at the CAS building Tuesday.
The truck was loaded with propane tanks and cans of gasoline.

The crash caused about $1 million worth of damage to the four-storey building.

Malone, 49, died at Toronto's Sunnybrook Hospital, where he was being treated for knife wounds and severe burns to 20 per cent of his body.

No one else was hurt in the crash.

Malone had recently resigned from his job with the Children's Aid Society.

Written by CBC News Online staff
million worth of damage to the four-storey building.

Malone, 49, died at Toronto's Sunnybrook Hospital, where he was being treated for knife wounds and severe burns to 20 per cent of his body.

No one else was hurt in the crash.

Malone had recently resigned from his job with the Children's Aid Society.

Written by CBC News Online staff

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2004/10/29/windsor_fire_death041029.html
 
Posted on Fri, Nov. 12, 2004


Suicide, gas station explosion prevented

Police talked man out of igniting himself, 100 gallons of gasoline.

From The Associated Press

WASHINGTON — Police interrupted a suicide attempt by a man who threatened to ignite more than 100 gallons of gasoline he had released from pumps at the gas station where he worked.

Kent Harker, 45, who had worked at the west-side station for about a year but said he was having personal problems unrelated to his job, was taken to Good Samaritan Hospital in Vincennes for a mental evaluation, Washington Police Chief Mike Healy said.

“Charges are pending,” Healy said Thursday. “The main thing is we talked him out so nobody got hurt, him or us.”

Police Capt. Tim Guy and Sgt. John Lagle were on routine patrol Wednesday night in Washington, about 50 miles northeast of Evansville, when they saw someone standing near the front door of the gas station.

Moving closer, they saw the nozzles had been removed from the pumps and gasoline was spilling onto the ground.

As the officers approached, Harker ran out, holding a lit cigarette lighter above his head.

“He told us to get back,” Guy said. “He said, ‘I’m going to blow this up.’”

The officers called for backup and Guy was able to contact Harker by telephone in the station.

They talked about 45 minutes before Harker surrendered to officers.

“It could have been a lot worse than it was,” Healy said. “Tim had a rapport set up with him and you’re taught that if the rapport is established, don’t break that.”

Firefighters used foam to absorb most of the 138 gallons of gasoline that had spilled.

http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/news/local/10165591.htm
 
Posted 11/15/2004 7:27 PM


Man sets himself on fire outside White House

WASHINGTON (AP) — A man set himself afire Monday just outside a White House gate and repeatedly yelled "Allah Allah" after Secret Service officers put out the flames and one held him facedown on the sidewalk.


Alan Etter, spokesman for the District of Columbia Fire and Emergency Medical Services, said guards at the gate quickly extinguished the flames, and the man had second- and third-degree burns on about 30% of his body.

The man had burns to his head, back, arms and face but was conscious when medics took him to Washington Hospital Center, Etter said.

"I can confirm that there was an ignitable liquid present on the scene," Etter said.

White House doctors joined uniformed Secret Service personnel in administering first aid until the emergency service technicians arrived. They transported the 52-year-old man, who was not identified, to the burn unit of Washington Hospital Center.

Lorie Lewis, a Secret Service spokeswoman, said the man "set himself on fire on Pennsylvania Avenue on the north side of the White House complex." That section of Pennsylvania Avenue was recently reopened to pedestrians after being closed for security.

Witnesses reported hearing screams and seeing a man in flames. The man's right trouser leg was burned.

Afterward, he lay on the sidewalk about 10-15 feet from his partially burned raincoat, attache case and various papers. A fire extinguisher was there as well. Secret Service personnel confiscated the man's items.

A Florida couple with a video camera taped the incident. John and Beverly Beers, tourists from Palm Beach, Fla., say they turned the tape over to the Secret Service. Authorities also interviewed the couple in Lafayette Park.

Jim Clarke of Burke, Va., was walking his dog when the incident occurred. He said Secret Service agents acted quickly and used an extinguisher to put out the flames.

There was no immediate word on the man's condition or what led to the fire. There was evidence of an ignitable liquid at the scene, Etter said.

The Secret Service, which disclosed no additional details, is investigating the incident.

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The Fight Club link seems awfully tenuous:

Last update: February 16, 2005 at 8:09 AM

Man cut off tongue, burned in 'Fight Club' stunt, police say

Associated Press
February 16, 2005 FIGHTCLUB0217


FERGUS FALLS, Minn. -- A rural Underwood man found injured last fall probably hurt himself, cutting off part of his tongue and setting himself on fire in an homage to the violent film ``Fight Club,'' Otter Tail County authorities said.

David Strom, 33, was hospitalized Oct. 19 after paramedics found him in a farmhouse that he shared with his grandmother near Underwood. He was handcuffed and suffering from severe burns from head to toe, and the tip of his tongue had been cut off, authorities said.

Sheriff Brian Schlueter said Monday that investigators determined the injuries were likely self-inflicted after interviewing Strom on Friday. Strom had been in a medically induced coma until December and hadn't spoken to investigators.

Strom's mother, Mary Olson of St. Paul, said her son is recovering in a Twin Cities hospital and suffers from a bipolar condition. Just a week ago, she said she believed his initial story of being attacked.

According to authorities, Strom initially told his mother three masked intruders attacked him in a pole barn near the farmhouse and mutilated his tongue before setting him on fire. After extinguishing the flames, he was able to walk 200 yards to the farmhouse, where he dialed 911, he told his mother.

In the meeting with investigators, Strom said he has an alter ego named ``Tyler,'' the name of the protagonist in the 1999 film ``Fight Club,'' Schlueter said. Strom ``had more than an average interest in'' the film, the sheriff said.

In the film, disillusioned young men meet in an underground club for fights.

Strom told investigators he was alone at the farm and ``it was Tyler who did this to him.''

Evidence collected at the scene indicated no one but Strom was in the pole barn the evening he was injured, Schlueter said. The Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension also recently determined latex gloves, a hat and a pop can found in the pole barn belonged to Strom.

In addition, the handcuffs involved and the knife used to cut off part of Strom's tongue belonged to Strom.

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Spontaneous combustion

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Man Goes Up In Flames At Gas Station

UPDATED: 7:07 am MST February 25, 2005

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. -- Investigators with the Albuquerque Fire Department and the police department continued their investigation Friday into what made a man at a gas station go up in flames, leaving him in critical condition.

Officials said the man, who is in his 30s, paid for gas Thursday evening, walked to the pump and ignited into flames moments later.

Witnesses said the man was not there with a vehicle, and that he might have been filling a gas container.

The man was rushed to a local hospital with second- and third-degree burns on 40 to 50 percent of his body.

Officials said Friday morning that the gas station was reopened, but the specific pump was not back online.
 
Or, he spilt petrol on himself and something set it alight... a cigarette?
 
Carless man critically injured in gas station fire
Last Update: 02/25/2005 2:20:46 PM
By: Reed Upton

A man who witnesses say didn’t have a car was critically injured when flames engulfed him as he appeared to be using a gasoline pump at a Northeast Heights filling station.

Albuquerque officials are investigating the incident, which occurred Thursday night at Lomas and Tramway.

Officials say the man, who approached the pump on foot, appeared to have a lighter with him.

Firefighters, who refuse to speculate on exactly what happened pending an investigation, say they do know that the man paid for gas. Shortly after that, there was a loud explosion at the pump and the man was engulfed in flames.

“He was just trying to get fuel,” said Albuquerque Fire Department Captain Mike Paiz, who added that the man “had no vehicle, so we’re trying to figure out what happened.”

The 31-year-old, whose name has not been released, suffered second-degree burns over much of his body.

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Man Sets Himself on Fire, Dies
ROME, Ga. (AP) -- A man who set himself on fire after he threw gasoline on his girlfriend and started a police chase has died of his wounds.

Police say a woman called 911 Saturday night to report that her boyfriend, 39-year-old Robert James, threw gasoline on her. After she called, James fled in his pickup truck. Driving recklessly with police in pursuit, James stopped at a field near his home.

"The gas can was already in the field," said Floyd County police Sgt. Gary Conway. "And once I turned on my blue lights, that looked like his only motive (was to get to it). He had his mind made up." James was initially taken to Floyd Medical Center for treatment. Later he was airlifted to a Chattanooga hospital, where he died early Sunday. His girlfriend, Teresa Martin, was also hospitalized but was released. Police said they didn't know what the argument was about.

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Few answers after man sets himself on fire

Greg Bonnell
Canadian Press

Wednesday, March 09, 2005


TORONTO -- A dramatic standoff in front of the Ontario legislature ended in desperation Wednesday as police and firefighters struggled to douse flames that had engulfed a clearly distraught man.

''I don't want to harm nobody,'' the unidentified man, driving a rental van, yelled repeatedly while dousing himself in gasoline. ''I don't want to kill myself.''

Police cruisers formed a protective barrier to prevent the van from mounting the front lawn of the legislature where a rural landowners protest played out, most demonstrators oblivious to the scene behind them.

After about 30 minutes of driving the van erratically toward police vehicles, the man - his face obscured by glasses and a dark hat with ear flaps - delivered a final message to onlookers.

''You leave me no choice at all.''

Firefighters and emergency task force officers sprung into action when the van backed onto a traffic island. Police used at least two cruisers to pin the vehicle in place, masked and heavily protected officers smashed the van's windows while firefighters unleashed a torrent of water.

Still, the man became engulfed in flames as television cameras, on hand for the anti-government demonstration, broadcast the grisly scene live and onlookers reacted in horror.

Several attempts were made to pound out the blaze after he fell to the pavement.

''He kept re-igniting because he was so soaked in gas,'' said one firefighter.

Firefighters turned their high-pressure hoses on the man as he lay on the ground, spreading a fan of what appeared to be blood onto the pavement beside him.

It took some 30 seconds to douse the fire, after which the man was transported to hospital.

''He's still alive at this point, but badly burned,'' said Joe Martino of the Special Investigations Unit, the provincial agency that investigates circumstances involving police and civilians that result in serious injury, sexual assault or death.

''Over the course of the incident, this van appears to have been blocked in by a couple of cruisers, at which point our information indicates that there was fire emanating from inside the van,'' said Martino.

''Based on that set of circumstances, we have started an investigation.''

The motivation behind the man's desperate act were left to speculation Wednesday, as provincial members of parliament expressed concern at what unfolded outside the gates of Queen's Park.

Social Service Minister Sandra Pupatello said she was looking into whether the man was having trouble with social assistance benefits.

''We are now checking with our regional offices to see if there are any cases, anything that could have predicted this kind of activity,'' said Pupatello.

''Any time there is something this dramatic, this difficult, naturally we go back to check all of our offices.''

Pupatello said she was ''anxious'' to find out what his issues were.

The incident started just before 1 p.m., as hundreds of farmers staging a protest on the legislature grounds made speeches from a flatbed.

Police were concerned the man might harm others as he started the van and drove it erratically back and forth just south of the main legislative building.

''We're not sure what's in that truck,'' one officer said as he pushed onlookers back to safety.

Although the truck was set ablaze as well, the contents were revealed to be nothing more than some pieces of cardboard and two plastic fuel canisters.

The odour of gasoline was still noticeable in the air an hour later.

The owner of the Budget car rental company where the white van had been leased said the man was a customer, but all questions were referred to police.

It was the latest in a string of dramatic and disturbing incidents involving police in Toronto.

On Sunday, police were on the scene talking to a disturbed man who heaved his five-year-old daughter off an overpass onto a busy highway before killing himself. The girl is in unconscious and listed in critical condition in hospital.

On Wednesday, the Special Investigations Unit wrapped up a day-long probe into the case of a knife-wielding man injured after police officers - some with guns drawn - forcibly subdued him by running him down with a police cruiser. He suffered a fractured wrist.

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Man had 30-day psych review
Court believed his hunger strike might harm him

Set himself on fire in rented van at Queen's Park

TRACY HUFFMAN AND ISABEL TEOTONIO
STAFF REPORTERS

The distraught man who doused himself with gasoline and set himself on fire outside the Legislature this week had been ordered to undergo a psychiatric evaluation by the court because it believed he was a threat to himself, according to court documents.

But after a 30-day mental-health assessment last year, Anh Ngoc Vuong was deemed fit to stand trial in January on charges of possessing weapons, threatening death, mischief and theft.

"It is a mystery to me why this happened," Vuong's lawyer Kim Schofield said yesterday in an interview with the Toronto Star. "He has always seemed to me to be a quiet, respectful person."

After driving past a police cordon Wednesday set up for a protest by farmers outside Queen's Park, a tense half-hour standoff ensued between Vuong and police. From inside a rented van, Vuong shouted that he did not want to kill himself and tossed officers a manila envelope that reportedly contained a message claiming he'd been tortured by police.

He also demanded a meeting with acting Police Chief Mike Boyd and Premier Dalton McGuinty.

After waving sheets with messages scrawled on them, Vuong poured gasoline over his head and set himself ablaze with two lighters.

Firefighters pulled him from the fiery van, blasting him with water and smothering the flames in an effort to save his life. He was rushed to Sunnybrook hospital, where last night he was listed in critical condition, suffering from burns and a head injury.

Schofield said she was not aware of any hostility that her client had toward police or the justice system.

"I was extremely shocked by what happened. I did have contact with him recently," she said.

Vuong, 50, had planned to turn himself in to police this week after failing to appear at a Jan. 20 trial relating to an alleged domestic dispute in January 2004.

"The arrangement to turn himself in and to set a new trial date had been made with police," Schofield said.

An explanation had been given to the court and the Crown attorney in the case as to why Vuong had not attended court for his trial, Schofield said. Although she would not divulge the reason, she said it was her understanding that the courts accepted the explanation and that no further charges were expected as a result.

Vuong maintained that he was not guilty of the criminal charges and had intended to plead not guilty to all four counts, she said.

In charges before the courts, it is alleged that on Jan. 30, 2004, Vuong threatened to kill a person he knew while armed with a pair of scissors and a cleaver. It is also alleged that he damaged property and stole keys.

After he was charged, Vuong was ordered to undergo a psychiatric evaluation because of concerns that he was on a hunger strike and could harm himself.

According to one media report, Vuong told a doctor his hunger strike was to "protest what was done to me.

"I want to make this a test case to protest the injustice that I have faced during legal proceedings."

During the assessment, Vuong denied he had any anger problems or that he had ever tried to commit suicide, according to a television report.

Although Vuong, who is estranged from his wife, was diagnosed as having a possible impulse control disorder, he was deemed fit to stand trial. In March 2004, he was released from custody after a friend posted the $10,000 bail. His bail conditions included that he seek counselling and not possess weapons or explosive substances.

Since then he made regular court appearances, but a warrant was issued for his arrest after he failed to appear for trial.

The province's Special Investigations Unit, a civilian agency that investigates incidents involving police that result in serious injury or death, is now handling the probe relating to Wednesday's events.

The SIU is asking witnesses to contact them at 416-641-1879.

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Man sets himself alight after row with girlfriend

24/04/2006 - 07:32:24

A man has sustained serious burns after he set himself on fire in Co Monaghan at the weekend.

The 24-year-old man is believed to have set himself alight in Drumass, near the village of Inniskeen, following a row with his girlfriend.

Two gardaí managed to drag the man from his girlfriend's house and extinguish the flames before taking him to hospital in Dundalk, where he is being treated for severe burns.

His injuries are not believed to be life-threatening.

www.breakingnews.ie/2006/04/24/story255587.html
 
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