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I'm looking for any stories or legends revolving around St. Martin's Day. Anyone have some?
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found a German page with a few links on it here.
and from the Netherlands we have St.Martin's day info here .
the Irish bring us this one...
The most popular of the saints' days is St. Martin on November 11. Martin of Tours lived in the 4th century. He started out as a Roman soldier, was baptized and became a monk. Because of his exemplary life he was, (very much against his will,) appointed Bishop of Tours. The goose, animal symbol of St. Martin, is a common meal around St. Martin's Day. Legend has it that geese betrayed him with their gabbling when he tried to hide in a stall as he was to be appointed bishop.
Placed at the beginning of winter, many pagan fertility and light celebrations are connected with this holiday, such as the Martin's fires (bon fires and burning wheels ) and the Martin's singing. When evening falls children, carrying Martin's lanterns and torches, parade through the streets. While parading they sing about the generosity of St. Martin and the procession may end with the lighting of a bonfire. Finally the children go from house to house and recite verses, for which they are rewarded with sweets or, more so these days, with money. In some areas the legend is reenacted in which St. Martin shares his cloak with a beggar in the cold of winter.
The real reason that the geese are butchered around St. Martin's Day is that they are ready for harvesting at this time of the year. In this country as well as in the old, goose feathers were used for pillows and featherbeds, quills were used for writing, the eggs were good for baking, the fat was needed for baking and could be eaten on bread, the bird made a great "Braten," and even the wing could be used for dusting.
Since many of the early German settlers did not find the right kind of Christmas tree, a tree on which they could place candles safely, they used the tough part of the feathers to make "feather trees." Goose feather trees have become collectors items. They are made again and can be purchased in speciality stores. They are very expensive but beautiful and can be called the first "artificial Christmas trees."
November 11 is also the kick-off of Fasching, Karneval and Fastnacht. For one day revelers are drawn into the streets, before the activities in carnival clubs, street and neighborhood groups, begin in earnest as the preparations for the January/February crazy days, are in full swing. In the Alpine regions St. Martin's used to coincide with "Viehabtrieb," bringing the animals back into the villages from their summer's stay higher up and is still celebrated in some areas.
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As for legends, there are some interesting things here including a page on St. Martin.
The name St.Martin also turns up in a variation of the Green children of woolpit.
and from the Netherlands we have St.Martin's day info here .
the Irish bring us this one...
The most popular of the saints' days is St. Martin on November 11. Martin of Tours lived in the 4th century. He started out as a Roman soldier, was baptized and became a monk. Because of his exemplary life he was, (very much against his will,) appointed Bishop of Tours. The goose, animal symbol of St. Martin, is a common meal around St. Martin's Day. Legend has it that geese betrayed him with their gabbling when he tried to hide in a stall as he was to be appointed bishop.
Placed at the beginning of winter, many pagan fertility and light celebrations are connected with this holiday, such as the Martin's fires (bon fires and burning wheels ) and the Martin's singing. When evening falls children, carrying Martin's lanterns and torches, parade through the streets. While parading they sing about the generosity of St. Martin and the procession may end with the lighting of a bonfire. Finally the children go from house to house and recite verses, for which they are rewarded with sweets or, more so these days, with money. In some areas the legend is reenacted in which St. Martin shares his cloak with a beggar in the cold of winter.
The real reason that the geese are butchered around St. Martin's Day is that they are ready for harvesting at this time of the year. In this country as well as in the old, goose feathers were used for pillows and featherbeds, quills were used for writing, the eggs were good for baking, the fat was needed for baking and could be eaten on bread, the bird made a great "Braten," and even the wing could be used for dusting.
Since many of the early German settlers did not find the right kind of Christmas tree, a tree on which they could place candles safely, they used the tough part of the feathers to make "feather trees." Goose feather trees have become collectors items. They are made again and can be purchased in speciality stores. They are very expensive but beautiful and can be called the first "artificial Christmas trees."
November 11 is also the kick-off of Fasching, Karneval and Fastnacht. For one day revelers are drawn into the streets, before the activities in carnival clubs, street and neighborhood groups, begin in earnest as the preparations for the January/February crazy days, are in full swing. In the Alpine regions St. Martin's used to coincide with "Viehabtrieb," bringing the animals back into the villages from their summer's stay higher up and is still celebrated in some areas.
This text came from this link.
As for legends, there are some interesting things here including a page on St. Martin.
The name St.Martin also turns up in a variation of the Green children of woolpit.
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Interestingly enough, geese have been considered holy since long before that - I seem to remember recently that the "goose" is rooted in the same term as "ghost" and they were considered to have spiritual significance in the distant past.
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Thank you Puny Chicken, for a wealth of links!
Breakfast said:Interestingly enough, geese have been considered holy since long before that - I seem to remember recently that the "goose" is rooted in the same term as "ghost" and they were considered to have spiritual significance in the distant past.
Geese seem to show up in folklore (laying golden eggs and such) much more often than, say, ducks or chickens.
The Romans thought that geese were sacred to Juno, and the geese kept at her temple were said to have saved Rome by warning of a surprise attack:
"The geese were honoured by having a golden image raised to their honour in Juno's temple, and a live goose was yearly carried in triumph, upon a soft litter, in a golden cage, as long as any heathen festivals lasted."
Does the sacredness of geese pre-date the Romans?