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The Hanging Gardens of Babylon

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Might actually have been in Nineveh, now known as Mosul. Been watching this documentary over and again for the past few weeks. Prof. Stephanie Dalley (Oxford Uni) explores the northern plains of Iraq to locate the likely space that once contained the Gardens of Babylon.

She starts in the mountains of Khinis, the source of the garden's water. Dalley theorises that it was Sennacherib, not Nebuchadnezzar, who was behind the garden's engineering, and that he established massive canals to channel the river water from Khinis to Nineveh 90km away.

It is an extraordinary story. I find her case evidence compelling. She's been in the field for over 50 years. Would very much enjoy attending one of her public lectures.

Enjoy.
 
yes, same here :(
 
The Hanging Gardens (it is theorised) would have been built mostly of mud bricks, with very little stone.
During a major earthquake, the ground would have liquefied and swallowed it whole. Any mud bricks remaining would have crumbled and eroded away. So, nothing much would have remained standing.
Perhaps they should be looking for a low mound of mud.
 
The Hanging Gardens (it is theorised) would have been built mostly of mud bricks, with very little stone.
During a major earthquake, the ground would have liquefied and swallowed it whole. Any mud bricks remaining would have crumbled and eroded away. So, nothing much would have remained standing.
Perhaps they should be looking for a low mound of mud.
Fired and glazed they'd have been as hard as stone.

Shame you Brits can't see the video. I get that block in Australia too, usually blocked by "Fremantle Media" on copyright grounds. I'll look for it elsewhere.
 
They might not have fired and glazed them, merely dried them. That is common in arid climates.
 
Fired and glazed they'd have been as hard as stone.

Shame you Brits can't see the video. I get that block in Australia too, usually blocked by "Fremantle Media" on copyright grounds. I'll look for it elsewhere.
Except, in that part of the world, they have traditionally not bothered firing the mud bricks to this day.
 
They might not have fired and glazed them, merely dried them. That is common in arid climates.
I doubt that an engineer worthy of the task of the channeling river water from Khinis to Nineveh would have made such a fundamental error in design. Been listening to a series of lectures by Ken Harl. He says the prior Sumerians did both, so I would have assumed the Babylonian / Assyrian builders would have done the same given the knowledge of strengthening had been part and parcel of the region's structural skills for some 2000 years or more by that time. In any case, it is highly likely that the builders would have constructed using stone, since it is surmised that there was 3 tonnes of water delivered over the garden daily. Mud bricks simply wouldn't have been up to the task.

From what I've learned, the alleged garden was thoroughly destroyed by a descendant regime, so the remaining stone would likely have been removed and used to rebuild, as had happened in various other ancient structural recycling events.

Sennacherib's palace is barely there at all, but the remnant is still in the top ten for world heritage listing if the war there ever subsides for long enough to protect it properly.
 
The Hanging Gardens (it is theorised) would have been built mostly of mud bricks, with very little stone.
Sorry to have overlooked this reply. I was responding to Xanatic above.

The dearth of stone around the mid to lower reaches of the Mesopotamian river system would have mostly precluded stonework, yes. But if Dalley's right, then the possible northern location relatively near the Amanus mountains would have provided ample stone for the construction. There's an aqueduct remnant that was constructed of over 2 million massive stone blocks at Jerwan in the middle section of the canal. That structure itself is mind-boggling. I find it very easy to accept that a garden could have been constructed from such stone, as Nineveh was only about 40km from Jerwan. Having constructed the canal, the engineers could have floated stone along its course to its destination at Nineveh. That aqueduct is a strong indicator of the capacity, if not evidence for the garden itself.
 
Found a map of the region in question. My estimate of 40km between Jerwan and Nineveh is in error, and is more like 60km. But that is a moot point given the possibility of the canal being the conduit for stone transport.

Here's the map. You can see that the proximity to mountainous geology could have made stonework a real possibility.



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This is the Jerwan aqueduct as it was in 1967, just 60km or so from Nineveh.
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Dalley transcribes the text at its base and it reads:
"Sennacherib king of the world king of Assyria. Over a great distance I had a watercourse directed to the environs of Nineveh, joining together the waters.... Over steep-sided valleys I spanned an aqueduct of white limestone blocks, I made those waters flow over it."

Here's a brief article summarising the site's features and theories surrounding its use. Good for an intro to the area's Assyrian history
Sennacherib's Canal System - Water Control in the Assyrian Empire
Assyrian Water Control Technology

By K. Kris Hirst

Archaeology Expert

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The The Jerwan Aqueduct, built by King Sennacherib around 700 BC. Corbis via Getty Images / Getty Images
Updated August 14, 2016.
The Assyrian king Sennacherib, son of Sargon II, ruled Assyria between 705-681. He is best known for his engineering projects, which included an extensive canal system bearing water from the foothills of the Zagros Mountains southwestward to Sennacherib's capital city of Nineveh; the first known aqueduct, at Jerwan; and a series of artificial lagoons and swamps as drain outflow for the canal. And, as historian Stephanie Dalley has become convinced, Sennacherib may also have created the famous (and thus likely misnamed) "Hanging Gardens of Babylon".

Assyrian Canals
Although Sennacherib was not the only Assyrian king to build canals, he was certainly the most prolific. Canals were considered great engineering feats, and so (and luckily for us) they were described prominently in royal inscriptions of the day, such as that on the Taylor Cylinder. When they ascended to the throne, Assyrian kings would create a new capital city, build a new royal palace and canals, and force everyone to move there.

When Ashurnasirpal II [ruled 883–859] moved his capital to Nimrud, he built a canal from the Greater Zab River to the left bank of the Tigris. When Sargon II moved his capital from Nimrud to Khorsabad in 717 BC, he built canals to Khorsabad.

And when Sennacherib moved his capital from Khorsabad to Nineveh, he built several canals, constructed in four stages over a period of about 15 years, ending up with the massive Northern and Khinis canal systems.

Senacherib's Canals
  • Kisiri Canal | built 702 BC | length 13.4 km (8.3 mi) | gradient 0.95 : 1
  • Musri System | built 694 BC | unknown length and gradient
  • Northern System | built ~690 BC | 46.4 km (28.8 mi) long | gradient between 0.6-0.4 : 1
  • Khinis Canal | built between 690-688 BC | 55 km (34 mi) long | gradient 0.9 : 1
The Khinis canal was the longest of Sennacherib's efforts, part of a below-ground tunnel system. It began northeast from Nineveh, in the foothills of the Zagros Mountains at Bavian, and crossed the valley by means of the aqueduct at Jerwan. Nineveh's canals were maintained for some two centuries until they fell out of use during the Median and Babylonian administration of Assyria.


Much of Sennacherib's excavated canals have been mapped by Harvard archaeologist Jason Ur's project using satellite imagery; according to Sennacherib's boasting, this massive effort was finished in 13 months, remarkable even by today's standards.

Water Sources and Purposes
Water sources for Nineveh's canals came from the Greater Zab river (a Tigris tributary), the Gomel/Khazir and the Rubar Dohuk. The canal tapped several springs along the way, and many of them were enlarged to form reservoirs. Jerwan is the only Assyrian structure which was specifically built to avoid runoff; most others were constructed to collect it. The canals were primarily for carrying water from the north to Nineveh, but Ur has identified offshoots from the canals where water was used to irrigate fields along the way. Most offshoots apparently did not exceed 2 m (6.5 ft) in width.

Canal size varied with location: near its head, the Khinis canal was 6 m (20 ft) wide and 2 m (6.5 ft) deep; but at Jerwan it had been expanded to between 19-22 m (62-72 ft) in width. Some segments of the Northern System canal are enormously wide, between 70-100 m (230-328 ft) in width. The routes of the canals were dictated by topography, bypassing prominences rather than excavating through them; the overall design gradient was 1 meter per kilometer (1:1000).

The Hanging Gardens
There's no doubt about it: Sennacherib had a way with gardens: he simulated forests in a park outside the city, and created a Babylonian marsh with reeds and pigs. The canals likely irrigated the gardens in the city, and, if there were any gardens on the grounds of the elevated palace at Kuyunjik, those were likely irrigated as well. According to Stephanie Dalley, Sennacherib's lavish gardens may have been the location of the Hanging Gardens of Babylon: it's quite possible that the Greek historian Herodotus was wrong about where the Hanging Gardens were at; certainly no evidence of such a garden has been found in Babylon.

Inscriptions
Luckily for us, Sennacherib was proud of his accomplishments and bragged about them in several extant inscriptions. Among them is the Taylor Prism, an octagonal fired clay object currently at the British Museum, one of at least three carved during Sennacherib's reign. Its cuneiform texts include a description of water control methods which included "great beams and wooden frameworks over the well-shafts" which most scholars interpret as shadoufs. Dalley suggests alternatively that Sennacherib used a water screw, predating Archimedes by about 400 years: and she may very well be right: using a shadoof to raise water would have been very labor-intensive.

The Bavian inscription, located near the head of the Khinis canal and written in 690 BC, reports that Sennacherib built 18 canals, which irrigated Nineveh's fields annually so that they could cultivate grain and sesame. Inscription B at Jerwan reports that he added "to the waters of the River Pulpullia and the towns and springs, caused a canal to be dug to the meadows of Nineveh, and a bridge of white stone blocks."
Source: http://archaeology.about.com/od/assyria/fl/Sennacheribs-Canal-System.htm
 
No luck finding an alternative video source in English, but here's the French version if you're up to the challenge. :(

hang on. Try this one. In parts, but adequate.
 
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