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The Real Da Vinci Code

sjoh9 said:
Ok, i have just read the book.Not wanting to give away any details to those that haven't read it and are planning to (if anyone is left that hasn't) but did anyone else work out these codes on the crptex (sp?).Im no Sherlock but bloody hell they were quite easy, especially the code for the smaller one! That was piss poor IMO!

Indeedy. I can just see a world renowned symbologist who I would imagine has spent most of his life up to his ears immersed in ancient greek and latin and a host of other obscure languages really being challenged by the 'ancient word for wisdom'. And the Newtons globe thing... Jesus, Mary and Child give me a break!
 
Additional Figure in Last Supper Pic

Well I looked at several pics of Da Vinci painting and I think we can safely say that article on today's FT page is a total hoax (quite an obvious one really). Though I did find this, which if you save it and magnify the image there appears to be a completely different ghoul in the gap lol!

http://www.artchive.com/artchive/L/leon ... p.jpg.html
 
Re: Additional Figure in Last Supper Pic

Actually just use the magnification tools on that page the wall behind is positively covered in demonic images. But then what would you expect at such a meeting of satanic bastards. :)))))
 
Re: Additional Figure in Last Supper Pic

Steve Ash said:
Well I looked at several pics of Da Vinci painting and I think we can safely say that article on today's FT page is a total hoax (quite an obvious one really).

Merged threads - I believe the article being refered to is:

http://hall.p5.org.uk/dvcat/
 
Re: Additional Figure in Last Supper Pic

Steve Ash said:
Well I looked at several pics of Da Vinci painting and I think we can safely say that article on today's FT page is a total hoax (quite an obvious one really). Though I did find this, which if you save it and magnify the image there appears to be a completely different ghoul in the gap lol!

http://www.artchive.com/artchive/L/leon ... p.jpg.html

I took a look at that wall before seeing their intepretation of it and sure enough, I saw a figure there. Only it wasn't their figure at all. So I don't put too much trust in it.

Either that, or I got my very own da vinci secret plot. That of the short-haired man leaning slightly forwards. ;)
 
If this 'missing' figure is indeed there at all, one can only assume that Leonardo had hurt his hand before he started painting it... ;)

Looks like a form of simulacra to me...
 
Jesus and Mary's kitty?

This popped up yesterday:
The recent popularity of the novel "The da Vinci Code", by American author Dan Brown has re-ignited interest in the parahistorical theory previously propounded by the books "The Templar Secret" and "Holy Blood, Holy Grail", that the term 'Holy Grail' realtes not to the cup used by Christ at the last supper, but rather to a Holy blood-line descended from the union of Jesus and Mary Magdalene. Proponents of this theory suggest that Leonardo da Vinci's wall painting "The Last Supper", at the Capella de Santa Maria delle Grazie in Milan, contains coded information confirming the existence of a child produced by such a union.

In support of this claim, theorists suggest that the figure of St John, seated to the left of Christ in the painting, is actually a representation of a female figure (Mary Magdalene) and that the shape formed by the space between the two figures represents a 'V' shape, symbolising the female vulva or uterus, which cryptically indicates the fertility of the union of Jesus and Mary Magdalene.

However, while not wishing to dismiss these theories unduly, based on previous research involving manipulated photographs from the Soviet Union and considering the size and nature of the area (being apparently lacking in any important detail which would require the separation of the seated figures), the possibility was considered that in the original image the area between the figures of St John and Christ may have contained an additional figure, which has subsequently been erased or obscured.

A parahistorical exercise was devised to test this hypothesis as follows:

Method

Due to the informal nature of this exercise and funding constraint, a reproduction of Leonardo da Vinci's "The Last Supper" was obtained via the internet. Using the 'Google' search engine, an advanced image search was undertaken on the following criteria:

Keywords: da Vinci "The Last Supper"
Image size: large
File type: JPEG
Colour: Full colour only

A reproduction was selected from the search results on the basis of image pixel dimension (the largest image available), image clarity (the clearest reproduction) and assumed reliability and independence of the source (the image used being a digital scan of a postcard obtained from the Capella de Santa Maria delle Grazie, one of a number of such scanned postcards made by an Italian writer detailing his visits to various tourist locations in Italy).

The original digital image used for this exercise may be viewed in full at:

http://images.fbrtech.com/dnew/Italy200 ... Milan1.jpg

The image was downloaded from the internet to a computer within the department of parahistory and examined using digital imaging software (photoshop v6), with particular attention to the area between the figures of St John and Jesus.

Result

Upon inspection of the image area detailed in (figure 2), it was determined that an outline figure existed between the figures of St John and Christ, the figure being apparently smaller than that of others within the image. The standing figure is apparent facing Christ, with head and torso visible directly in front of the darker area of the pillar. Additionally, the figure appears to have two arms, the left being raised, the right lower, the forearms extending into the lighter area of the pillar to the right. Although no right hand is apparent, lightness of the area of Christ's robe at the point at which the hand would extend from the figure's right arm suggests that the right hand may, originally, have been touching the robe at this point.

Although the figure is apparently clothed and standing upright, the facial features do not appear human. Notably, the figure appears to have whiskers similar to those of a cat or dog and large, pointed ears.


Conclusion

Taking the results of this exercise into account and using established parahistorical reasoning methods, it is determined that while da Vinci may have intended to cryptically convey knowledge relating to the existence of a Holy blood-line resulting from the union of Mary Magdalene and Christ, the presence of the cat-like creature standing immediately to the right of and touching Christ, indicates that this, now erased figure, held a position of greater significance than that of the others at the table.

Further, while evidence for this conclusion is provided by the suppression of any reference in Biblical texts to marriage between Jesus and Mary Magdalene or of any cat-like creature resulting from the union, apocryphal texts, specifically the Gospel of Mary Magdalene (Nag Hammadi) contain references to "corruption of the body", which suggest that such a creature was central to biblical events and, while apparently reviled by many of the apostles, enjoyed the particular affection of Mary Magdalene.

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Are there any Nag Hammadi Mavens out there that know of references to this "corruption of the body" aka "kitty" following Mary and Jesus and bothering the Apostles?

I've read through The Gospel of Mary (albeit on a web site) and there's no mention of a kitty that I can discern.
 
I think this is patahistorical rather than parahistorical. (see pataphysics if you wonder :wtf: )
 
Where's "figure 2"? :confused:

Signed,
Foozled in Frontenac County
 
I've merged the threads as this was already being discussed here.

Leaferne: You can find the link to the oriignal article in my post above.
 
The Stranglers

Of course, the better Paranormal version of The Last Supper is The Stranglers gate-fold album "The Gospel According to the Men in Black." Where a MIB is leaning in to talk to the J man.

I still don't get the article's authors allusions to the Gospel of Mary in the Nag Hammadi that talks about some corruption of the flesh being a corporeal being.
 
Re: Additional Figure in Last Supper Pic

Steve Ash said:
Though I did find this, which if you save it and magnify the image there appears to be a completely different ghoul in the gap lol!

http://www.artchive.com/artchive/L/leon ... p.jpg.html

They look pretty similar to me - the torso, arms and head are in the same position. Second one doesn't seem to have the ears, but it looks like there is definitely something there.
 
Museum Puts 'Da Vinci Code' on Trial in Leonardo's Hometown

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Published: February 19, 2005

ROME, Feb. 18 (AP) - Art experts and conservative clerics are holding an unusual trial in Leonardo da Vinci's hometown, aimed at sorting out fact from fiction in "The Da Vinci Code" after many readers took the hit novel as gospel truth.

The event in Vinci, just outside Florence, began Friday with an opening statement by Alessandro Vezzosi, director of a Leonardo museum. He said he would produce photographs and documents as evidence of mistakes and historical inaccuracies contained in the book, in which secret societies, code-breaking, art history and religious cabals and lore all play a major role.

"Leonardo is misrepresented and belittled," Mr. Vezzosi said in a telephone interview hours before the event began. "His importance is misunderstood. He was a man full of fantasy, inventions and genius."

Mr. Vezzosi said he would produce evidence through 120 photographs based on documents and paintings with the aim of "reassessing and disclaiming the author" of the book, Dan Brown. Mr. Vezzosi said one example of the mistakes contained in the book is the statement that the Mona Lisa was made in Leonardo's image.

Several of the book's plot twists have provoked unprecedented protest among Roman Catholic and Protestant conservatives, who contended that the characters maligned Christianity and inaccurately characterized its history.

Mr. Brown has not said much about the controversy his book has inspired. But he told the "Today" show on NBC in June 2003 that while the main character, Robert Langdon, is fictional, "all of the art, architecture, secret rituals, secret societies, all of that is historical fact."

Organizers said that nobody would speak in the book's defense and that the "verdict" would be contained within the speakers' presentations.

But that does not mean the book will be completely hung out to dry: hundreds of fans are expected to attend the trial. And a representative of the Catholic group Opus Dei, which is featured prominently in the book, will be present to help to set the record straight on the organization's history, said Monsignor Renato Bellini, the vicar of Vinci.

"The Da Vinci Code" has sold more than 7.5 million copies worldwide and is expected to be made into a movie. It has also spawned a cottage industry in books and events, like the Vinci trial, seeking to debunk it.

Source
 
IMO they'd be better laughing it off and saying 'Hey, it's fiction.' The conspiract theorists will see any attempt to debunk the novel as proof-psoitive that it's true...

Church fights Da Vinci Code novel

The Roman Catholic Church in Italy has spoken out against what it says are "shameful and unfounded lies" in the best-selling novel The Da Vinci Code. Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, Archbishop of Genoa, broke the church's official silence on the controversial book.


Its story about the Church suppressing the "truth" that Jesus had a child with Mary Magdalene has convinced many fans.

But the cardinal's spokesman denied reports that the clergyman was asked by the Vatican to hit back at the book.

Carlo Arcolao told the BBC's News website that it had been the cardinal's own decision to make a public statement about the book.

Mr Arcolao confirmed that the cardinal told an Italian newspaper: "It astonishes and worries me that so many people believe these lies."

The archbishop Il Giornale: "The book is everywhere. There is a very real risk that many people who read it will believe that the fables it contains are true."

The book, by US author Dan Brown, has been a publishing sensation around the world and is still in best-seller lists.
Its conspiracy theories and thriller style, in which two code-breakers try to track down the truth behind the Holy Grail, have caught the imaginations of millions.

Its central claim is that the Holy Grail is really the bloodline descended from Jesus and Mary Magdalene - which the Church is supposed to have covered up, along with the female role in Christianity.

Brown has previously said: "All of the art, architecture, secret rituals, secret societies, all of that is historical fact."

On Wednesday, Cardinal Bertone will host a seminar called Storia Senza Storia (Story Without History) to rebut the claims.

He said he wanted "to unmask the lies" so readers could see how "shameful and unfounded" the book was.

The cardinal has been deputy to Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the man known as "the Pope's enforcer" and a possible successor to the pontiff.

.....Publisher Transworld was unavailable for comment.


Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/e ... 350625.stm

Published: 2005/03/15 12:42:22 GMT

© BBC MMV
 
I've read a similar story, basically saying 'Vatican slams book' or words to that effect. When actually, it's nothing to do with the Church itself. It's one member of the Church speaking out. Any actual spokesman for the Vatican/Church itself always seems to smile and say, "meh!", in a very unconcerned fashion. Which strikes me as the correct attitude to take! :D
 
People don't tend to 'see' priests as individuals. They just see the church - and to an extent this is true - but it must never be forgotten that the two are seperate.

One doctor is not the NHS, one polititian is not democracy.
 
rjm said:
One doctor is not the NHS, one polititian is not democracy.
And one man's fable is another man's truth (and vice-versa)...

Me, I'm reminded of the Big-Endians versus the Little-Endians.... 8)
 
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