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I was reading this story a few nights ago does anyone know if this story is true and what did The Norwood Historical society and The London underground railway society uncover ?
The Victorian railway disaster
Nineteen year old Pamela Goodsell’s eyes nearly left their sockets when she saw what the light of a match revealed.
An old train with the remains of passengers now skeletal lying in some disarray on the mouldering floor of the carriage. The train had been sealed up in an underground tunnel, but why?
Other remains of humans were lying all over the train the unfortunate passengers were noticed to be wearing Victorian style clothing , some men sported top hats. The teenager had fallen down a 20ft shaft while walking through the park near the site of old Crystal Palace in south east London.
Pamela was horrified by her discovery yet of course very puzzled that the local authorities hadn’t exhumed the remains and thus brought to light the fact of the mystery. Yet the mystery there was because she made enquiries about her find no one wanted to know. ”Completely preposterous “said London transport .And they went on to say “there’s no record of a subway train crash in the area.” However that statement is certainly open to question.
The London transport spokesman went on to say “we just don’t lose trains and passengers like that, not even in Victorian times”.
Miss Godsell , who said she had found the remains in 1978 could not find the shaft , however , when she went back to the park . But she remains quite unshakeable in her account of the horrific experience and it seems that nearly all sydenham knows that there is an abandoned underground train under the park somewhere, possibly the result of an experiment that went badly wrong, so it would appear that the story isn’t all moonshine!
Legend has it that the train was shunted into a tunnel around 1870 and was never seen again or perhaps it was conveniently forgotten by the authorities who got the experiment badly wrong preferring to bury their mistake for ever. One excuse put forward is that the relevant documents appertaining to the mystery were lost during the last war.
However experts have been successful in tracing the mystery back to an experimental train design by an engineer named T.W Rammell which once ran for 600yards on a line between Sydenham gate and Penge. Compressed air was pumped into the tunnel which had air tight doors and the train careered along at about 35mph no record of any accident had been recorded the experiment was soon discarded and no other prototype constructed the train was evidently sealed up in its tunnel and forgotten about by the outside world.
Now members of the London underground railway society I’m told are showing a healthy interest and I understand that they feel that they are near break though to crack this mystery for once and for all.
The Norwood Historical society also are interested and have combined with the former society to effect a solution . Then the two societies have obtained permission to sink boreholes in the park to identify the site of the tunnel special electronic tests have been made and are now being evaluated.
The chairman of the Norwood Historical society has gone on record saying that they are about to use more sophisticated electronic equipment and dig along the line of the old underground track.
The searchers are hoping to uncover the whole train intact and the outside world will be very interested to see what finds are evident .The people around the area cannot explain the occasional rumblings that are heard at different times of the year are they connected with this dreadful accident.
The Victorian railway disaster
Nineteen year old Pamela Goodsell’s eyes nearly left their sockets when she saw what the light of a match revealed.
An old train with the remains of passengers now skeletal lying in some disarray on the mouldering floor of the carriage. The train had been sealed up in an underground tunnel, but why?
Other remains of humans were lying all over the train the unfortunate passengers were noticed to be wearing Victorian style clothing , some men sported top hats. The teenager had fallen down a 20ft shaft while walking through the park near the site of old Crystal Palace in south east London.
Pamela was horrified by her discovery yet of course very puzzled that the local authorities hadn’t exhumed the remains and thus brought to light the fact of the mystery. Yet the mystery there was because she made enquiries about her find no one wanted to know. ”Completely preposterous “said London transport .And they went on to say “there’s no record of a subway train crash in the area.” However that statement is certainly open to question.
The London transport spokesman went on to say “we just don’t lose trains and passengers like that, not even in Victorian times”.
Miss Godsell , who said she had found the remains in 1978 could not find the shaft , however , when she went back to the park . But she remains quite unshakeable in her account of the horrific experience and it seems that nearly all sydenham knows that there is an abandoned underground train under the park somewhere, possibly the result of an experiment that went badly wrong, so it would appear that the story isn’t all moonshine!
Legend has it that the train was shunted into a tunnel around 1870 and was never seen again or perhaps it was conveniently forgotten by the authorities who got the experiment badly wrong preferring to bury their mistake for ever. One excuse put forward is that the relevant documents appertaining to the mystery were lost during the last war.
However experts have been successful in tracing the mystery back to an experimental train design by an engineer named T.W Rammell which once ran for 600yards on a line between Sydenham gate and Penge. Compressed air was pumped into the tunnel which had air tight doors and the train careered along at about 35mph no record of any accident had been recorded the experiment was soon discarded and no other prototype constructed the train was evidently sealed up in its tunnel and forgotten about by the outside world.
Now members of the London underground railway society I’m told are showing a healthy interest and I understand that they feel that they are near break though to crack this mystery for once and for all.
The Norwood Historical society also are interested and have combined with the former society to effect a solution . Then the two societies have obtained permission to sink boreholes in the park to identify the site of the tunnel special electronic tests have been made and are now being evaluated.
The chairman of the Norwood Historical society has gone on record saying that they are about to use more sophisticated electronic equipment and dig along the line of the old underground track.
The searchers are hoping to uncover the whole train intact and the outside world will be very interested to see what finds are evident .The people around the area cannot explain the occasional rumblings that are heard at different times of the year are they connected with this dreadful accident.
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