• Forums Software Updates

    The forums will be undergoing updates on Sunday 10th November 2024.
    Little to no downtime is expected.
  • We have updated the guidelines regarding posting political content: please see the stickied thread on Website Issues.

Weird Experience With Sigil Magic

Chaos Magick

And on the note of sigil magic, I gave it a try and something is afoot. I have been in a job I don't particularly like for almost the last 4 years without hope of finding something else that remotely pays well or is worth while in applying to. I formulated a sigil and left it under something at work I then saw a job advert for something I can actually do that paid appropriately so I applied and didn't hear back for a while. Then I thought I should destroy the sigil with a bit of fire and really send it out there, I soon after got an interview which went well and am waiting for the outcome at the moment. All that said I can definately conclude with 100% certainty that they work Well I still have to wait and see, but I think there might be something in it, maybe just a little.

Surely the whole point of magick is to transcend the material, and therefore using it for material gain is pointless?
 
Re: Chaos Magick

Astral Shores said:
Surely the whole point of magick is to transcend the material, and therefore using it for material gain is pointless?

people should use it for what they want - i use sigil magick occaisionaly for purely materialist reasons, i'm not particularly interested in spirituality - and i have been described as one of the least spiritual people around (which is probably accurate)

do what thou wilt! ;)
(though i dont agree with harming others, through any means including magick)
 
Re: Chaos Magick

[/quote] Surely the whole point of magick is to transcend the material, and therefore using it for material gain is pointless?[/quote]

I hardly think that wanting to get out of a job I loath and into something more suited to me is material gain. If I found a job I liked I would happily take a pay cut, but then I might have to eating less but I am thin enough as it is.
The idea of waking up in the morning and looking foreward to the day is not too much to want.

BTW the sigil fizzled and I am still here. :(
 
Re: Curious

Bilderberger said:
Sorry to butt in - but could you point me in the right direction to get more info. on Sigil Magic. I know nothing about it and it sounds very interesting.

Many thanks and I hope everything carries on improving for you as it has in the past....................

www.google.com.au/search?q=Sigil+Magic

[Emp edit: Fixing big link]
 
Re: Chaos Magick

Astral Shores said:
Surely the whole point of magick is to transcend the material, and therefore using it for material gain is pointless?

Magick is a very flexible tool. The only limitations that exist are the ones that you impose yourself. Material gain is as good a reason as any and ones mind is easy to focus on ones needs. If you feel you need it then use whatever you can to go for it but dont limit yourself with unnecessary spiritual rules.


http://www.waningmoon.com/darkpagan/
 
Just to get back on topic, can we hear of other s experiance of sigals and the like
 
I find this an interesting thread - not the usual magik stuff I see and flick past without a second glance.

I want to ask a question though.

Say for example you go through a set of proceedures in any circumstance (like a ritual, or making a cup of tea) - then is not the following true?

1) part of your mind is occupied with the routine

2) part of your mind is working out what will happen immediately after the routine

3) part of your mind is working out what will happen (long term) after the routine

If all of the above is true, would your mind (subconsciously or consciously or whichever other state / part you can think of including or excluding neurons present in intestines - yes they are there I read about them in a news article on the BBC website).... would your mind then, as a consequence, if it was likely to benefit you in the long term; then decide to follow the plan and make these circumstances come true?

I mean, it's not like it would have a guaruntee of success, but if your mind knew what was likely to happen if....and then...and if it did this....and then that happened....so it does this....

What do you think?
 
coldelephant said:
What do you think?

i think you could be right, it could just be connected to the power of positive thinking :oops: the fact is for me, it appears to work mostly, and it's the results that count

it's an interesting question though
 
I know this thread is quite old, but I'm bumping it up because I have a very odd problem with sigils, and I'm hoping those of you with far more insight and experience can tell me what's going on, or at least give some advice. (if there was an emoticon for desperation, I'd use it.)

Here's the story. Three times in the last year, I've tried to use sigils. The whole idea seemed very sensible as far as magic(k) is concerned. I'm an artist, I understand the power of creating something and imbuing it with a sort of power, whether intentionally or not. So I made up a batch, per the instructions, It went well. I could feel something there. I went about all the rest of it. and on the night that I charged the first batch, I could feel it, somehow, that it was doing [/i]something.
Can't explain it well, but sort of like an electrical charge in the air.
Then, things started to go wrong. Within a day, our Internet service went down, our plumbing went bust and our car stopped dead. just like that.

A few months later, I tried again. Within a day, due to some electronic error that no one could figure out, our electric was cut off and stayed off for two weeks. And when we kept telling the company to fix it, they said they had no record of us ever using their service. So that was a miserable mess!

The third time I tried, almost immediately our Internet service went down again for several days, the plumbing went bust again (requiring expensive repairs) and our car battery actually blew up. (I didn't even know it could do that!)
IIRC we had problems with our television acting up at that time too.
Oh, I know it could be coincidence, but I just felt like the happenings had certain characteristics that marked them out as unique.
Kind of a combination of explosions and things coming to a dead stop at the same time.

What I'd like to know, really...coming at it from an esoteric perspective, is what could have been happening here, and is there any thing to be done about it. Anyone who has experience with these things, I would be very grateful for your imput. Thanks :)
 
Sorry, I know this is an old thread but I didn't want to start a new one.

If you make a sigil, how do you manage to forget about it if it requires you doing something to help get it. For example, if I make a sigil to win some money on the lottery, then obviously I have to action it by buying a ticket etc. How is this compatible with sending it off into the universe and forgetting about it?
 
Doesn't sound like it is, to be honest. Maybe lottery numbers aren't covered in your sigil guarantee?
 
Can't you buy lotto tickets in advance or on a standing order maybe? Get them for a year on direct debit and forget about it that way.
 
Sorry, I know this is an old thread but I didn't want to start a new one.

If you make a sigil, how do you manage to forget about it if it requires you doing something to help get it. For example, if I make a sigil to win some money on the lottery, then obviously I have to action it by buying a ticket etc. How is this compatible with sending it off into the universe and forgetting about it?

Taking the lotto idea alittle further, try this. Add the following to your sigil request: for every foot that walks upon me...their touch enpowers me

Now once youve created the sigil visit some park miles from home,head for a path and bury it under the soil.
 
The above ideas sound good. If you tend to gamble/ play lotto frequently anyway, you may just want to make a sigil for "winnings" in general and just be open to what you get? That may make it easier to forget. When the Mysterious Forces (whatever you want to call 'em) send us things, they tend to do it in odd ways. you never quite know how it will show up. Sometimes it's spot on, but other times it comes at you sideways.
...

I see my own post at the top of the page from back in '09. I did figure out the reason for all that sigil weirdness back then. Ironically enough, it just came up in the "what do you believe in" thread. Turns out I have a viciously powerful punitive super-ego, which basically rebelled and screamed "no, you aren't having any of that, madam! That's too good for the likes of you!" to the tune of stuff actually blowing up. :rolleyes:

In the years since, I've been working on ways to sneak around it. Some I've mentioned in the "mind power" thread that have had interesting effects. I've since come to a method similar to sigils, but somewhat different, that works better with my own psyche.
 
The above ideas sound good. If you tend to gamble/ play lotto frequently anyway, you may just want to make a sigil for "winnings" in general and just be open to what you get? That may make it easier to forget. When the Mysterious Forces (whatever you want to call 'em) send us things, they tend to do it in odd ways. you never quite know how it will show up. Sometimes it's spot on, but other times it comes at you sideways.
...

I see my own post at the top of the page from back in '09. I did figure out the reason for all that sigil weirdness back then. Ironically enough, it just came up in the "what do you believe in" thread. Turns out I have a viciously powerful punitive super-ego, which basically rebelled and screamed "no, you aren't having any of that, madam! That's too good for the likes of you!" to the tune of stuff actually blowing up. :rolleyes:

In the years since, I've been working on ways to sneak around it. Some I've mentioned in the "mind power" thread that have had interesting effects. I've since come to a method similar to sigils, but somewhat different, that works better with my own psyche.

Regarding winning with the lotto. I once made what is called a Witches Jar - a normal jar, some household items and a strange symbol. It was from one of those Finbarr books :rolleyes: to attract money and in the same week I won 50quid - the most Ive ever won on the lotto. The jar never worked after that so it must have been a coincidence.
 
Maybe one of those things that only works when you really need it to? Did you have any particular need of an extra £50 at the time?
 
Maybe one of those things that only works when you really need it to? Did you have any particular need of an extra £50 at the time?

Well it was mid 1990s, a short period when I wasnt working.
 
Sigil magick works because you're conjuring something that is likely to happen anyway. It only works in that instance.

Hence it's power and hence it's weakness.
 
The one time I tried doing some quite serious and open ended sigil magic for self development, I ended up having quite a bad mental breakdown not long afterwards... I'm mostly recovered now, though there's the odd peice of my life that I'm still slotting back together 15 years later.

Probably that would have happened anyway too.

I have a vague notion of what the sigl looked like, but do not have the original or any sort of picture of it.
 
Funny that I should be reading this thread about now... I just gave a lesson to someone on how some spells can be traps, whether intentional or not... And that for some, the only way out is to do whatever the sequence was backwards, read it, walk it, reverse it out.

I strongly suspect that the late Sir Terry Pratchett's view of magic and gambling is probably more at play for some things however... "You mustn't use magic to win! Not to affect the laws of chance! That's wicked" "'It's tempting Fate, using magic in a game of chance. Cheatin's all right. That's practic'ly fair. I mean, anyone can cheat.

Word from one group is that in entering the new age, what has happened previously will repeat again to some extent. As the current age passes through its childhood, so too will all of the world's inhabitants...

Bon courage et bonne chance!
 
Sorry, I know this is an old thread but I didn't want to start a new one.

If you make a sigil, how do you manage to forget about it if it requires you doing something to help get it. For example, if I make a sigil to win some money on the lottery, then obviously I have to action it by buying a ticket etc. How is this compatible with sending it off into the universe and forgetting about it?

I know this was from 2013 but anyway.
Make multiple sigils at once and mix them up and forget which is which. If you just make one you can't stop yourself from thinking about what you wishing for. So mine are a combo of win lotto/fall in love/stay healthy etc. So when concentrating on sigil I don't know which is which. Since I am still poor and single and not really that healthy it may not be working LOL. I just realized that's not you were asking. Buy the ticket before making the sigil maybe?
 
Since I am still poor and single and not really that healthy it may not be working LOL.

You might have the same problem with unconscious self-sabotage as I had. In the years since realizing what was wrong, I've devoted a lot of time to working it out, or finding clever ways to get around it. It's not entirely gone, but it's a lot better, and I've been able to do some workings that had quite startling results since then.
 
I know very little about sigils and have never really dabbled with practical magic/magick, but someone mentioning the writer Jan Fries caught my attention. I have his book 'visual magick' and found it an enjoyable read, since visualisation is something that interests me as a painter/illustrator.

Last year something was set to happen/change in our neighbourhood. There was a chance that it might have a negative impact on our particular area and we dreaded it going ahead. Plans were stalled for around 6 months, but when they started up again it occurred to me that I might as well have a little fun visualising an intention to 'put the project off'. I approached this with no expectations (obvs) and a sense of humour, although I was surprised at the clarity and strength of my visualisation after completing it. I placed myself (mentally) in the space where this project was set to occur, and 'wrote' words of a certain affect on the walls, window, floors and doors which were intended to put people off. Putting people off was my only purpose.

In a sense I was playfully encouraging people to abandon the project or at least stall it for a good long time. I chose the words carefully and considered their potential to harm anyone. Satisfied that they shouldn't I continued. I was quite careful about this.

As it turned out, a very unusual thing happened. Something no one could have expected. The people who purchased the project were not the intended market. This was a very unlikely outcome that I couldn't have anticipated. Unfortunately, the project fell apart within a few weeks, with the explanation being exactly the words I had written in my mind. This was devastating for a couple of the people involved, financially.

Now, I have absolutely no clue as to whether my intention had any effect whatsoever. I am open minded about such things, but not what you'd call confident about them either. If something that I do appears to have had an effect I will likely put it down to coincidence. But what struck me was the words I used: 'sunk cost'. I had intended anyone viewing the project to be put off by this concept, not to actually suffer it. The idea was that they 'felt' or 'read' the warning before committing to the project.
Unfortunately the people who ultimately got involved did not visit the scene (where I had 'left the words') prior to laying out a lot of money on it. They also had a poor grasp of english. They could not have seen or felt my 'warning'.

Of course, they may simply have made a very stupid investment. That is the most likely explanation.

Make of it what you will. I feel that it would be rather self important of me to even consider having had an impact, not to mention the potential for guilt. If anything, it taught me to pause. That on the off chance my intention did work, I had learned that whatever forces combine to effect a result will be indiscriminate. You would have to cover so many details and potentials to avoid unwanted consequences. That said, I am inclined to think that I had no effect upon this project at all...but you do wonder! :p
 
Last edited:
I dabbled with it a few years ago, to no results however I did try a Novena and this was for a particularly hopeless work situation, and it worked I had a kind of knowing it was working or going to work,

Make of it as you will, but i put it down to the power of your intention and the faith in it's ability, it can move mountains as they say
 
I tried chaos magick (with some sigils involved) once in earnest, and it worked exceptionally well, to the point I found it quite frightening because *magic isn't real*.

I won't go into the details as they're quite personal, but let's just say within the space of 3-4 months multiple different elements and actors (job, relationship, place where I lived) fell into place in a way that made my very specific desired outcome happen.

I am prepared to think it just helps focus the mind or is a different way of presenting 'visualising your goals', but I was still surprised it worked.
 
An interesting thread that takes me back to my formative years of the 1970’s.
A friends brother knew of my interest in the occult and used to give me advice occasionally. I’m sure it was him that introduced me to the Atlantis bookshop which subsequently became a favourite hang out of mine.
I remember the friends brother had a number of odd shaped little tins around his room in which he burned scraps of paper which I assumed were sigils or magick squares.

I can’t recall a recent article on sigil magick in the Fortean times of late. Possibly because it has no relevance to UFO’s or Cryptids.
 
I'm interested in the ways in which sigil magic falls in with the current fashion for 'manifesting' - asking the Universe for what you want, all that guff. Is it just another form of the same thing? Does it just concentrate the mind on your 'wishes' in a way that makes everything that happens subsequently (either positive or negative) attributed to the magic performed?

I don't really have skin in the game other than having designed my own form of sigil magic, whereby I create a design which means something to me, which I imbue with desire for change and then concentrate on whilst performing my own 'ritual' (usually burning the sigil, but close proximity housing means I have to hide behind the garden shed to do so in order that the neighbours don't think I'm up to something and I worry that this might affect the efficacy). I have noticed an improvement in life in the direction that I have tried to steer it, but that could have happened anyway (due to hard work, mostly). So when do you conclude that sigil magic is a 'thing', and when do you decide that it's your intent and renewed effort that actually did the work?
 
Could sigil magic cause energies and or frequencies that are already present to coalesce in to a slightly difference form that changes how those frequencies and energies act in the world around us?
 
Back
Top