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What's The Most Extreme Film You've Ever Watched?

BlackRiver..

it was a pig wasn't it? under the sheet? unless there was another disturbing scene that I missed..
Lindsay Anderson eh? I see he did a follow up called 'Britannia Hospital'.
I think i'll give that one a miss Lindsay, thanks all the same. ya c**t. :laughing:

re: the 'gun to your head' comment - I should've added a smiley to that.
 
i thought it was a sheep, but it must be getting on for 20 years since i saw it, so who knows?

He's better known for directing If, which people usually remember nostalgically for the scene at the end where Malcolm macDowel and friends are on the roof of the school machine gunning the teachers as they run out (i think they might grenade a few too) before putting a round through the headmasters head when he tries to talk to them... imo that's about the only bit of the film worth watching...
 
I thought it was a sheep in O Lucky Man too, but I haven't seen it since a late night TV showing back in the early 90s. It's my favourite Lindsay Anderson film, although Britannia Hospital is seriously weird in a good and bad way. Give it a go if you like strange films, plus it has a fantastic, one of a kind cast of Brit talent.

As for Salo, the most extreme thing about it is how extremely boring it is. Plod, plod, torture, plod, plod, eat poo, plod plod, massacre, the end (if you're still awake). Verdict: the fascists were bad people. No shit, Sherlock. Watch Shoah or The Sorrow and the Pity for a more enlightening look at the period, fiction usually falls short where war atrocities are concerned.
 
Definitely a pig in Oh Lucky Man, one of my favorite films.

I'm surprised no-one's brought up John Water's Pink Flamingos, Female Trouble and Desperate Living, genuinely subversive and some real WTF! moments.
 
i still think it's a sheep... looks like it's covered in wool to me :?

As for Salo, the most extreme thing about it is how extremely boring it is.
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i do vaguely recall fast forwarding through the bits where the whores told really boring 'salacious' stories... can't really say that i saw it as an insight into nazism so much as that being just a vehicle to ground De Sade's ideas and narrative (if you can call the book that) in the 20th century, iirc in the book the judge/duke/bishop/king had no particular ideology behind their actions, other than that they did them because they could...
 
Salo - Yep, watched it a few times. gets a lot of bad press, but is actually a brilliantly conceived homage to De Sade's book. If you fast forward thru it then you obviously miss the great, and very accurate Italian-English subtitles, which are as good as Burgess' work on "Cyrano de Bergerac" for my money. The production design is top-class, as you'd expect from such a visually demanding director. Of course the story itself won't have a broad appeal, but then that's the point. and the detached cinematography perfectly captures the gaping nihilism that the central characters posess.

Mena Behind the Sun is another astonishing movie. The mixture of prosthetics and cadaver work mean it is unlikely you'll see a more gruesome 90 odd minutes. And in response to a comment previously, the director TF Mou is Chinese, and he is making imo an extremely valid point about the appalling abuses that occurred during the various Chinese / Japanese conflicts over the years, that are denied and ignored to this day.

Aftermath is a movie that for quite a while i wish i hadnt seen, but as a cinematic statement it is head and shoulders above anything else.
 
_TMS_ said:
Salo - Yep, watched it a few times. gets a lot of bad press, but is actually a brilliantly conceived homage to De Sade's book. ...
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Yes. i've seen it, on Dutch TV. Pasolini was a brilliant director.

The extreme sex and violence are simulated, but, the sado-erotic political critique of Fascism and the abuse of power is shocking, disturbing and profound. Like watching an exposition of some of the work of Michel Foucault, if Foucault could have directed movies as well as Pasolini.

A real movie, about real things, played out as an allegorical fantasy.
 
Either that or one man bolting his done to death (no pun intended) personal obsessions onto another man's personal obsessions to unenlightening effect. At least in The Canterbury Tales you could see Doctor Who naked. A talking point if nothing else.
 
gncxx said:
At least in The Canterbury Tales you could see Doctor Who naked. A talking point if nothing else.
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There's a joke in there about "it being bigger on the inside".


Coat?
 
stuneville said:
gncxx said:
At least in The Canterbury Tales you could see Doctor Who naked. A talking point if nothing else.
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There's a joke in there about "it being bigger on the inside".
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Ooer, missus!

Coat?
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He could have done with something to keep him warm, yes.
 
Requiem for a Dream

I'm never, ever going to do drugs. At least not that kind.
 
Alytha - I read through this whole thread wondering if someone was going to say requiem for a dream. Certainly a movie I shall never watch again. The notions of madness portrayed in Ellen burstyn's character terrified me. The cinematography was amazing, but too good, too effective. Quite a clockwork orange effect from the musical score too.
 
How come no one's mentioned Nekromantik? I love the review that marvelled how Jorg Buttgereit had managed to make a 60 minute long movie about necrophilia quite so boring.

I really really didn't like the bit with the bunny rabbit - basically unforgiveable, especially as Buttgereit admitted that he'd had a friend whose dad (or uncle - I forget) was a dab hand at killing rabbits so just mucked around with the script until he could include the rabbit killing scene. I also found the bit in Nekromantik 2 with the seal autopsy in it just horrid.

The uncut Ichi the Killer is too much - esp the nipple slicing bit. Miike isn't really that extreme though, or rather not all the time - he makes loads of family oriented movies too. He's just Japanese! And Visitor Q is great - such a feel good flick.

I really hated the Deodato movie that tried to cash in on Last House on the Left - The House on the Edge of the Park. Really nasty. However, I really rate Cannibal Holocaust although I found the bits of real executions slipped in very distasteful and made me feel compromised, plus thought the animal killing scenes were poor. Mind you, in Mr Vampire, the animal killing scenes are also real but because they're chinese it just doesn't seem so bad.

New York Ripper by Fulci is another yucky one. I can find something fun in most of his stuff but that one is vile. I think originally all prints of that movie were escorted out of the UK.

Story of Ricki is just a giggle - that was such a joy to see in the cinema :)
 
_TMS_ said:
Men Behind the Sun is another astonishing movie. The mixture of prosthetics and cadaver work mean it is unlikely you'll see a more gruesome 90 odd minutes. And in response to a comment previously, the director TF Mou is Chinese, and he is making imo an extremely valid point about the appalling abuses that occurred during the various Chinese / Japanese conflicts over the years, that are denied and ignored to this day.
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This was a very nauseating movie, but I would defend it because it seems to be accurate in regard to historical fact. Yes, the Japanese doctors really were that evil and their Chinese victims really did have it that bad. Plus, in the midst of all the horror and gore, there are scenes of heartbreaking drama. One of the Japanese doctor's young sons manages to make friends with a slow-witted Chinese boy from a nearby village. One day, the Japanese doctor finds himself short one guinea pig and tells his son to "bring his friend around" so that they can play together. The son does, and you can guess what happens. The film left me feeling angry, depressed and sickened. Knowing that few of the doctors at the medical experimentation camps were ever punished because they cut sweetheart deals with US forces in exchange for their experimentation records is somehow even more revolting.


Aftermath is a movie that for quite a while i wish i hadnt seen, but as a cinematic statement it is head and shoulders above anything else.
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What do you think that statement was? Because for the life of me, I haven't been able to discover one. A morgue attendant rapes a naked woman's corpse and then proceeds to viciously attack and mutilate it with his instruments while opera music plays in the background. He cuts out her heart and then brings it home and puts it in a blender and feeds the contents to his dog. The End!
 
Mention of Requiem for a Dream on this thread reminded me that it was in one of my scary slush-piles awaiting a reason to view. Well I don't think I'll bother with it again but it hardly lives up to its reputation as an extreme movie.

Old ladies, don't do drugs!

Its references - none too subtle - to The Little Shop of Horrors, should establish that its genre is essentially black comedy. Technically it's clever enough but only self-obsessed twonks are going to identify with these schlocky characters at all. Guess what? The imdb is full of them, emoting like crazy about how they just sat in silence after the movie, tears streaming down their faces! OMG, they're telling our story! Enough already!

The following night brought Kielsowski's Short Film About Killing. A young drifter murders a taxi driver and pays the ultimate price in 1987 Poland. Not one for gore-hounds but the protracted murder and capital punishment scenes are still hard to view. Shamelessly manipulative perhaps. But the whole film has a baleful, nightmarish atmosphere which make it extremely unsettling.

It certainly makes Requiem for a Dream look like kids' stuff, which, of course is how it was sold. "A thrill ride to rival Evil Dead II," Hotdog. ***** :cross eye
 
I know it has already been mentioned on here already but I'm going to have to cast my vote for Irreversible. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0290673/

Gore and slasher stuff just really doesn't have an affect on me (My father worked on an ambulance and he used to stop at car wrecks when we were kids and I have assisted in autopsies on vagrants), so you can mutilate a body any which way from Sunday and I'll probably fall asleep but Irreversible is just so intense that if it doesn't bring a reaction from the viewer then they probably shouldn't be out with the rest of society. I recommend it to anyone who is a movie buff but I do caution that you must have a strong stomach and not easily upset by very graphic content.
 
'Irreversible' has been mentioned before. And it's not just the violence (a fire extinguisher in the face - and I don't mean sprayed in the face either - et al) but the prolonged rape scene in the underpass that is sickening (and the reason for the events that follow - or preceed it 'cos it's all shown in reverse order).

And you may need to speak French - though the dialogue isn't too important.
 
ogopogo3 said:
What do you think that statement was? Because for the life of me, I haven't been able to discover one.
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I guess i see the statement as being: ultimately, we're all dog food. People hope that, in life as well as death, they will be treated with compassion and respect, but this is often not the case. To a lesser extent it also forces you to assess your relationship to those in authority. By putting on a uniform or name badge they enpower themselves within society. Yet they remain the same broken vessel they were before they slipped on the gunbelt or stethoscope.

Out of interest, have you actually watched Aftermath, or are you going off ther IMBD/A N Other precis? Genuine question - no offense intended...
 
I thought I might as well move this into Fortean Culture.

The thing is that it is easy enough to make a film that is unrelentingly grim and unpleasant but it is tricky to make an interesting and engaging film out of it. Probably why I can't be bothered seeing a film just because it was extreme so to answer the question I suppose I'd go with Visitor Q for out there content and Ichi uncut for violence. Miike always manages to make the unpleasant interesting, although Visitor Q was slightly tough going with so many "oh he didn't just..." moments ;)
 
Do you mean zato ichi? the blind swordsman?
Premo series of films in my book. I have seen nearly all the episodes.
Ichi rocks and/or rolls !
 
Philosophy of a knife

Just what the world needed, Men Behind the Sun: Redux.

Coming in at a behemothic 4 hours, and using a mix of real footage and newly shot (B&W) sections, we get the entire history of Unit 731 from inchoate inhumanity to devilish denoument. Andrey Iskanov hasnt shirked from the task he set himself, forcing the audience to witness every twisted barbarity, masquerading as "science", that this infamous detachment devised.

The move has a stub on IMDB, you can see a trailer on Iskanov's myspace page - which i found intense - , and will be soon released by Unearthed over in the states.

No links, if you want to check it out help yourself. I am asking the local arthouse cinema to consider a screening - although i think they will stick to 'intelligent satire' like Dumplings, rather than go for primordial revulsion and disbelief. That being said they did run Salo one Friday many moons ago...
 
escargot1 said:
W*t*rsh*p D*wn

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Seriously the 70s cartoon version of this is absolutely horrific! And it was for kids!?
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The black rabbit, the fields of blood, the diseased rabbit - it is a horrendous vision and I get shivers just thinking about it. Its truly evil!

Second place to that, Im not sure what the film the clip was from was but at Uni we had a lecture from a BBFC guy and one of the clips he showed us as an example of what they have to watch and classify was an execution vid.

Basically a scared, naturally, blindfolded guy in the middle east is dragged into a graveyard and kneeled down while yelling balaclava clad yahoos shouted and berated him. The camera zooms on his face and then he gets shot several times in the head. The worst bit was the twitching of the torn open cheek as the camera lingered on his wrecked face.

While working at Reuters I was flicking through the TV channels and news feeds and happened to turn over just as the Nick Berg (?) video was being played. Not nice.

As for recent films maybe Im turning into a pussy as I get older but the remake of the Amityville Horror scared the hell outta me, the trailer for Emily Rose scared me every time it came on at the cinema and I spent most of Open Water with my hands over my eyes - it was a crock of shit do I feel quite ashamed of that now.
 
Peripart said:
Isn't it a shame that everyone's read the title of this thread, and taken it to mean "What's the most extremely nasty/disturbing film you've seen?"? OK, so that might be what was intended, but how about the most extremely thought-provoking, or the most extremely moving film anyone's seen?

It's not all torture and exploitation out there, you know!
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On that note, I would say Wim Wenders' "Wings of Desire"
 
I recently watched a film called "Dumplings" from Hong Kong, which i really enjoyed. I guess many people would consider the ideas and imagery in the movie disturbing and extreme. The film centres around a middle aged woman who goes to a cook who makes dumplings said to rejuvinate and make people younger. But these dumplings are made out of aborted fetuses, and the further down the line, the greater the physical effects. Also i thought Uzumaki and Evil Dead Trap (both Japanese) were pretty good, and again many would consider them extreme. Nobody does it better than the Cantonese, Koreans and Japanese. I don't get easily disturbed by movies or literature.
 
It's been mentioned once... Wolf Creek.

I was so disturbed by that film that I have watched it once (which was a struggle) and have now got rid of it. There are images from it stuck in my mind and I don't think they will ever go.

Horror movies, gory movies etc don't normally bring on that reaction in me.
 
There was a scene in the cheesy horror movie Chainsaw Sally that had me squirming. The librarian-turned-serial-killer is making out with a guy in his car and she abruptly cuts his dick off and jabs a lit sparkler in the stump. "Pussy. I could have used firecrackers." (wince)
 
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