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Angels

gncxx said:
Anyone see Mastermind last night? One of the contestants had "Angels" as his specialist subject, and I don't know what he was expecting, but he only got two points!
Yes, I saw it on iPlayer.

I think I scored more than him, just guessing!
 
'Guardian angel' hired by police to stop drivers speeding in Switzerland
By Carol Driver
Last updated at 6:53 PM on 11th May 2010

Drivers in Switzerland who spot a winged man dressed in white at the side of the road shouldn't be alarmed – it’s not a vision, it’s a guardian angel.
Police in the state of Fribourg have hired the professional actor to deter motorists from speeding.

The ‘road angel’, who forms part of a safe-driving campaign, will wave and flap his wings at motorists travelling too fast.
He’s the real-life version of an angel that features in the initiative’s TV commercials who is hit by a young motorist as he hurriedly drives out of his garage.
The advert advises heavy-footed drivers to 'Slow Down. Take It Easy'.

'The idea is to provide a sort of concrete protection, to have a real angel telling drivers to be responsible,' Benoît Dumas, a Fribourg police spokesman, said.
'To have a physical presence like that makes the message more visible, and it's out of the ordinary.'

The actor, whose identity has not been released for privacy reasons, works 20 hours per week and will ‘appear’ in different parts of the 670-square-mile region of western Switzerland.
'The initiative will go on until at least end of October, but it could be prolonged. After all, you know, angels are eternal,' Dumas said.

Drivers who spot the angel are being encouraged to e-mail the police – they will then be entered into a lottery for a driving lesson.
Officers say it’s too early to tell if the ‘guardian angel’ has discouraged speeding in the mountainous country, where speed limits vary from 75mph to 31mph.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... z0nhdCKERF
 
I'll put this question here, but does anyone remember a TV documentary (BBC I think) about angels in the 1980s or '90s which described how a winged person would actually look?

It was something like having a huge wingspan and tiny legs, and a massive chest to support the wings and make them flap. I think it was to discount the notion of the traditional angel figure but can't recall the exact details. Does this jog any memories?
 
I've definitely seen a drawing of what that would look like but don't recall it being on TV.
 
escargot1 said:
I've definitely seen a drawing of what that would look like but don't recall it being on TV.

Yeah, I think that drawing was on the documentary. I wonder if it's online? Must have been 40 Minutes or QED, one of those quirky factual strands they used to do on the BBC.
 
Re: Fashionable again...

Why religion's out and we're loving angels instead

JULIA HORTON =2003


TAP the word "angel" into one internet search engine and you get a massive 22,200,000 hits. ."

Search = 2012
About 1,320,000,000 hits in 41 seconds. That's some increase in webshites.
 
Angels Exist But Have No Wings, Says Church
http://news.sky.com/story/1185507/angel ... ays-church

A senior clergyman says angels are 'back in fashion' but rubbishes their popular portrayal as bare-chested cherubs with wings.
5:51pm UK, Friday 20 December 2013

Penny, Director of the National Gallery, speaks in front of 'The Angel appears to Hagal and Ishmael' painted by Guercino circa 1652, at the National Gallery in London

Angels are normally portrayed with wings, like in this painting by Guercino

Angels really do exist but do not have wings and are more like shards of light, according to a church official.

Catholic Church "angelologist" Father Renzo Lavatori says the celestial beings are back in vogue thanks to various New Age religions.

But he insists that the traditional portrayal of angels as hovering, winged cherubs rather misses the mark.

"I think there is a re-discovery of angels in Christianity," Father Lavatori said at a conference on angels at a lavishly-frescoed Renaissance palace in Rome.

Palazzo della Cancelleria
The angels conference is being hosted by Rome's Palazzo della Cancelleria
"You do not see angels so much as feel their presence - they are a bit like sunlight that refracts on you through a crystal vase," he added.

The senior clergyman was taking part in a debate this week on angelic art by the Fondazione Archivio Storico, an Italian art foundation.

It was held at the Vatican-owned Palazzo della Cancelleria.

Art historian Professor Valerio Massimo Manfredi said the first mention of the word "angelos" came from the Mycenaean civilisation in Greece more than 3,000 years ago.

The word means "messenger" in ancient Greek.

Monsignor Giovanni Tonucci, head of the Loreto Marian sanctuary, said that angels were "pure souls".

Their lack of a defined form had allowed artists through the ages to let their creative imagination run wild.

"Following the cultural history of angels is following the history of humanity, or at least of our civilisation," the conference organisers said.

"Angels have helped drive religious and philosophical thought and have given birth to sublime forms of poetic and artistic expression," they said.

Father Lavatori said the popularised image of angels is a necessary result of their being "back in fashion" but is dismissive of all the angel art around Christmas.

"There is space for that, but you have to understand that these are not real representations. Angels do not have wings or look like cherubs," he said.

The widely-published Catholic clergyman is also a "demonologist" and says angels are more needed than ever.

This is because increasing secularisation and materialism in society have left an "open door" for the devil, he said.

"There is a lot more interference from diabolical forces. That is why you see queues of people outside the exorcists' offices in churches," he said.

"Pope Francis talks more about the devil than about angels and I think rightly so. But it's still early, he will get round to the angels too."
 
Is there any solid evidence for angels? any winged

humans been found?

any currently in exsistance?
Angels are supernatural beings in different religions...They are carry out God's tasks.
I think every person has its own Angel who protects you and guides you in Your Life.
"I know I got Angels watching me from the other side".
Kanye West
 
Has anyone ever seen an angel?

I haven't but I do feel when one is around me cos I feel something sitting on or hovering around my left shoulder (possible guardian angel). And this seems crazy but I have a angel that just looks after car parking spaces for me (even though I can't drive). Where ever I go if the car park looks extra full I will just say to whom ever I may be with, "don't worry I have a car parking angel". I don't ever recall a time where I have said it and we haven't found a space to park and most times it's in a good place too.

lucydru
The parking angel thing sounds mad but it really does work. Ask nicely for them to find you a space and remember to say thank you.
 
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What I was taught was;

Hail Mary full of grace,
help me find a parking space.

Works like a charm, everytime.
 
Is there any solid evidence for angels? any winged

humans been found?

any currently in exsistance?
I ordered a cane from Amazon.com. The day before it arrived I dreamt of a tall ponytailed blond man who handed me a cane similar to the one I ordered. I forgot about the dream until a few days later I was on the street an a young man approached and said something to the effect of "Taking gifts from Michael is just as bad as taking gifts from Lucifer, both are just power hungry.
 
Today at work I took a call from a customer.
It was a long call, and the conversation went from work matters to them telling me about their life.
They told me the following, which was totally not related to my work:

They were an elderly lady, living on the Isle of Wight.
40 years ago they lived in Ventnor.
In a terraced house, where the attics of the houses were joined.
Near a cliff top.

They were asleep in bed, naked.
The bottom of the window was open to the air, being an old fashioned type of widow which was pulled up from the inside, to leave a small gap at the bottom.

At about 2AM they woke to find the room full of smoke, and heard shouts.
They saw flames.
Quickly realising the property was on fire, they knew they need to escape.
But visibility was limited, and there was little time to act.

[They stood up and in doing so, inhaled smoke produced in part by polystyrene.
This caused lung damage, and they now have COPD.
They told me that if they get a flare up, they smoke a few cigarettes, which neutralises the body's need to cough through hairs in the lungs trying to get rid of invasive particles.
It seems counter productive, but it has kept them alive.]

The slight window opening had allowed for a small stream of breathable air to enter the room, which was also not covered in dense smoke.
This allowed some light to enter from outside, so she instinctively went towards the window.
She went straight to the window, opened it as wide as possible, and got out of the room to stand on an external window ledge.

The ledge was high up, but wide enough to stand on without panicking.
Eight feet away, but at some distance below, was a flat roof of a nearby property in the terraces.
She knew that it would be better to get to that roof, but the distance and drop were prohibitive.

From somewhere, a man appeared.
Older, a bit taller, dressed in a white robe with long white hair.
He had a serene look on his face.
He took her hand and somehow "helped" her get to the flat roof.

She then saw firemen below, who had been watching.
They were able to place ladders against that property, climb up, and take her back down to the street.

They expressed some shock that she was not wearing any clothes, they thought she had been, but it was dark soot from the fire covering her.
As they put her into an ambulance, two firemen said they were going back into the house to find the man who had been with her.
They thought he was in danger.

She said that she lived alone, but yes, a man had been on the roof with her.


A few days later she was still in hospital, and the two firemen came to visit.
They asked after her health, and apologised that they had not been able to find the man they saw with her.
They had not found a body either.

They said that they had not though it possible she could make the eight foot gap between buildings, but she had seemed to glide over the gap, rather than jump or climb.

She had never seen the man before, nor has she seen him since.
He was not recognisable as one of her neighbours.
 
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