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Coincidences

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I am a big admirer of the mysterious Czech painter Kamil Lhotak. A few days ago I was in Prague and I searched for his artworks. The following coincidence happened:

1) We were waiting for the bus and I took a picture of a roll of duct tape lying in the gutter.
2) I went to the library to look for book on Kamil Lhotak and I found this picture of "Tubing in the woods" (Potrubi v lese, 1967).
3) I took a walk through Prague and found some tubing in the wild.

The third occurrence does not really count, because then I had the picture in my subconscious already. But the first does count because I didn't know this painting existed.
 
I've never been to Peterborough, and know very little about it. But I'm reading a crime story atm where Peterborough was the main detective's home town in the 60s, although he now works in Yorkshire. But the book points out how the population there doubled by the 70s...
(The summer that never was, by Peter Robinson, 2003)

Tonight I'm watching an ePlayer prog about The 70s
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... t_On_7072/

...and a town they use as an example of the social changes of that era, with many families moving out of London slums, uses Peterborough as an example.

It's as if someone's trying to tell me something.... :?
 
rynner2 said:
I've never been to Peterborough, and know very little about it.

I lived there for 10 years. It's a fairly dull place.
It's a fairly small city - I suppose you'd call it a town, but it has quite a fine cathedral.
Perhaps the cathedral is the most noteworthy thing about the place.

Glad I moved away - it's experienced a huge influx of groups of immigrants who are in conflict with each other. The locals are caught in the middle of it.

Edit: Oh yeah, the expansion in the 70s - that was because the government designated Peterborough as a 'new town' and offered incentives for huge house building programmes and for companies to move to the area. The Peterborough development corporation was particularly active in the 80s, with a prominent TV advertising campaign aimed at attracting people to the city.
 
This morning I was reading about a Nazi concentration camp, where, after liberation, hundreds of sketches of butterflies were found on the walls. Nobody knows what they meant to the people who drew them.

Later, I was walking along beside a swimming pool thinking about this and noticed a woman sitting nearby, with a large butterfly tattoo on her lover back. Maybe I should have asked her what it meant!
 
This morning I was reading about a Nazi concentration camp, where, after liberation, hundreds of sketches of butterflies were found on the walls. Nobody knows what they meant to the people who drew them.

Later, I was walking along beside a swimming pool thinking about this and noticed a woman sitting nearby, with a large butterfly tattoo on her lover back. Maybe I should have asked her what it meant!

That rings a bell, I'm sure I read about that as well, and read something else about how when the children who were liberated from the camps were given pens and paper, they drew butterflies and it became a symbol of hope. I can't remember where I read it though.
 
Funnily enough, yesterday I was chatting to a workmate who has butterflies tattoos all up one forearm. I asked her what they meant to her, and she said, oh nothing, except I like butterflies... and they're all about hope... and freedom... and moving on... and, y'know, they're beautiful and dainty and they appear in the summer and fly about...

So, no significance there, then. :lol:
 
Last week we watched Peter Kay on tv. In the show he mentioned an empty bag of Quavers blowing through a funeral, and joked it meant the deceased was 'there' because he had liked quavers. Two days later I go shopping and leave my bike parked outside. When a get back I find an empty bag of quavers stuck to my tyre. Then later in the week my youngest son helps a man feed his horse at the bottom of our field - and receives a six pack of quavers as a reward....
 
Last Wednesday my cousin and his wife were watching the various Anzac day marches when they both saw a man who looked just like his late Father.
He had a very distinctive face so that was unusual enough but then they saw that it was also the old regiment he had served in in WW2. This was in South Australia and we are in Victoria so we were surprised at the coincidence.
 
rynner2 said:
A rather grim coincidence this time:

Yesterday in Camborne bus station there was a man collapsed on the ground. A member of staff was with him, and an ambulance had already been called for.

Today I was sitting on bus in Falmouth bus station when another passenger in front of me exclaimed "Oh look!" - alongside the bus, in a bus shelter another man had collapsed...
Some follow-up:
yesterday I saw the first man again, up on his feet and walking about unaided. :D
 
rynner2 said:
rynner2 said:
A rather grim coincidence this time:

Yesterday in Camborne bus station there was a man collapsed on the ground. A member of staff was with him, and an ambulance had already been called for.

Today I was sitting on bus in Falmouth bus station when another passenger in front of me exclaimed "Oh look!" - alongside the bus, in a bus shelter another man had collapsed...
Some follow-up:
yesterday I saw the first man again, up on his feet and walking about unaided. :D

Zombie!
 
This morning I was passing the time on a long bus ride with thoughts of a post-apocalyptic novel that I will probably never write. One idea I had was that my protagonist, one of a few survivors after a deadly plague, would attempt to keep track of time using perpetual calendars from public libraries. (All electronics are kaput.)

This evening, my current crime novel also had the heroine deduce the perpetrator of several murders, and the motive, by similarly consulting library perpetual calendars. :shock:

Very odd!
 
I'm not going to trawl the ninety-two pages to see whether this link has already been posted:

http://understandinguncertainty.org/coincidences?page=1

Pages and pages of coincidences - many jaw-dropping, some decidedly less so - submitted to a Cambridge Prof. with some interesting articles and blog posts on statistics and probability.
 
theyithian said:
I'm not going to trawl the ninety-two pages to see whether this link has already been posted:

http://understandinguncertainty.org/coincidences?page=1
No, it hasn't - but I did post a DM article about it back in January!

No need to trawl 92 pages - just look for an unusual word in the piece, and pop it in the "Search topic" box. In this case, the good prof himself provides a good search word - Spiegelhalter - which found just the one post mentioned:
http://www.forteantimes.com/forum/viewt ... 70#1177570

Simples!
 
theyithian said:
I'm not going to trawl the ninety-two pages to see whether this link has already been posted:

http://understandinguncertainty.org/coincidences?page=1

Pages and pages of coincidences - many jaw-dropping, some decidedly less so - submitted to a Cambridge Prof. with some interesting articles and blog posts on statistics and probability.

Thank you!

Also, glad to see a message from you and know that you haven't abandoned FT (or at least not abandoned the threads I actually read!).
 
Just a small coincidence. I was tidying up some bits and pieces in a container on the mantlepiece the other day and one was a death notice for my friend's aunt who had died a couple of years ago.
Later in the week I was visiting my friend and she remarked that she had forgotten to collect her aunt's death notice from the paper and had wanted it to put in a memory book.
Yesterday she was so pleased when I gave it to her.
 
Little coincidences like that are the best! :D


Last week I finished a book and noticed that the author had another book out which I was sure I had somewhere. T'other day I was thinking, hmm, wish I could find that book, it's just the sort of thing my Dad would've liked, ooh, it's about two years since he died...

Within minutes I spotted it in full sight on a bookshelf. Strange that I'd missed it before! Inside I found my train ticket and boarding pass from when I went to Geneva with my son. Two years ago. Where I was when Dad died...

I'd taken the book with me but had read another instead, and left the tickets inside. I'd found it on Dad's anniversary. It's a book about how the dead are with us and can communicate if we know how to listen. Dad loved all that stuff.

Yeah, OK Dad, I'll read it now! :green
 
escargot1 said:
Little coincidences like that are the best! :D


Last week I finished a book and noticed that the author had another book out which I was sure I had somewhere. T'other day I was thinking, hmm, wish I could find that book, it's just the sort of thing my Dad would've liked, ooh, it's about two years since he died...

Within minutes I spotted it in full sight on a bookshelf. Strange that I'd missed it before! Inside I found my train ticket and boarding pass from when I went to Geneva with my son. Two years ago. Where I was when Dad died...

I'd taken the book with me but had read another instead, and left the tickets inside. I'd found it on Dad's anniversary. It's a book about how the dead are with us and can communicate if we know how to listen. Dad loved all that stuff.

Yeah, OK Dad, I'll read it now! :green

Thats a wonderful story' thanks for sharing it.
 
My Dad firmly believed in life after death. My sister has recently been seriously ill on the same ward where Dad died, exactly two years afterwards. Gave us a fright.

When Sis recovered a bit she joked that if Dad turned up to see her, she wasn't going anywhere with him!

Late that night, a confused elderly male patient wandered into her bay and approached her bed. She woke up and thought it was Dad! :shock:

A nurse turned up and escorted him away. Sis thought, Dad sent him to pull my leg! :lol:
 
This is a good one.
http://www.kansas.com/2012/05/25/2349030/wichita-boys-garage-sale-buy-holds.html

Wichita boy’s garage-sale buy holds a treasure for his family

The Wichita Eagle. By Fred Mann. May 25/26, 2012

Addison Logan, 13, probably wouldn’t have gone to the garage sale Thursday if he hadn’t broken his arm in a dirt bike accident a couple of weeks ago.

He probably would have been riding the bike.

Instead, Addison, who likes garage sales, was driving around to some of them with his grandmother, Lois Logan, in west Wichita. After three stops, he finally found something he wanted to buy. It was an old Polaroid camera at a house about a mile away from his grandmother’s house. He thought the camera was “pretty cool,” he said. He bought it for $1.

Back at his grandmother’s house, Addison got on the Internet to find out how to take a picture with it. When he removed the cartridge and opened it, he found an old photograph inside. He took the photo to his grandmother.

Lois Logan said she looked at the photo and saw her son, Scott, who died in an auto accident 23 years ago.


The photo showed Scott sitting on a sofa with a high school girlfriend, Susan. Lois guessed it was taken in 1978 or 1979, about 10 years before his death. She didn’t remember the photo, but thought it must be one of her old ones.

When Addison told her he found it inside the camera he’d just bought at the garage sale, she thought he was kidding.

“It was really weird,” she said.

Nobody else in the family could believe it, either.

“I’m just shocked,” said Scott’s brother, Blake Logan, on Friday. “The more time that passes, the more in disbelief I am. So many things have to come together for that to happen. It just seems supernatural.”

Blake and another brother, Jeff Logan, have speculated that Addison finding the photo might be a sign from Scott.

“It’s almost like he’s reaching out to us, saying he’s still with us,” said Blake, who is Addison’s father.

The Logans said they don’t know the people who were having the garage sale. The man who sold the camera to Addison told them he goes to a lot of garage sales, and he couldn’t remember where he got it, Lois said. They can’t think of any connection to the house.

Jeff Logan thought Susan, who long ago married and moved away, may have lived somewhere in the neighborhood in those days. But Blake said that neighborhood didn’t exist back then.

Other than that, they have no clue how the photo turned up there.

“Who knows, really?” said Lois Logan, whose husband died about 12 years ago.

Scott Logan was 28 when he died. He was a single dad selling vacuum cleaners door to door to make some extra cash before he started a new job with an insurance company.

He was driving on I-70 on business when he fell asleep at the wheel. The car left the road and flipped, ejecting him, Lois Logan said.

Scott’s son was 4 when Scott died. He now lives in Independence, Mo. Blake Logan posted the photo on Facebook and sent it to him Thursday. He wrote back Friday.

“Wow,” his message said.

Seven years before Scott died, another brother, Brian, died in a car accident at 19. A friend was driving him home from a back-to-college party in Wichita, Lois said. The car left the road and flipped, ejecting Brian.

Both sons died of broken necks, she said.

Jeff, 53, the oldest brother, was a year older than Scott, and very close to him. They played a lot of golf tournaments together. Every time Jeff plays in one, he thinks of Scott.

“Is that miraculous, or what?” he said about the photo turning up the way it did.

“When you get something like that, that’s almost like a sign telling us, ‘Hey, everything’s all right, I’m still here,’?” Jeff said.

Lois Logan has no doubt about it.

“I think both of them are looking out for all of us,’ she said. “I’ve always felt that.”

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What are the chances?

:D
 
The camera story has been questioned: wrong camera, wrong film-format, wrong date iirc.

I can't now lay my hands on the page - it is drowned out by unquestioning copies of the original tale. :(
 
My eldest daughter's dryer was playing up so she was going to look for a new one. She heard a text message on her mobile and it was from an electric goods store not very far from where she lives.
They were going out of business so she thought she'd go and see what they had.
She found just what she wanted at a good price, and as she was paying she remarked that she didn't remember ever buying anything there before yet they had messaged her.
The girl looked it up on the computer and it was her number, which she has had for years, but another person's name.
We thought what a coincidence that the text came when she needed a dryer and that it was a wrong number.
 
Good one! It's interesting how many of these coincidences can involve phones. Are there phone pixies in the system or something?
 
Here's a coincidence I didn't know about till now. (I give the article in full however, as I couldn't bear to leave any of it out! 8) )

A Point of View: Why are the Beatles so popular 50 years on?
The Fab Four's music endures because it mirrors an era we still long for, says Adam Gopnik.

Over there this summer you are celebrating, as all of us over here know, a decades-old anniversary of uncanny auspiciousness: the Jubilee of an institution that has lasted far longer than many thought possible, transcending its native place in Britain to become a source of constant, almost unbroken reassurance to the entire world.

I'm referring of course to the truth that in a very few weeks we will celebrate the 50th anniversary of the first concert, and first photograph, of the four Beatles. 8)

I'm looking at the picture now. It shows the Beatles, as they would remain, together, John, Paul, George and now at last Ringo in place at the drums, taken in that afternoon before one of their first public appearances on 22 August 1962.

And now I am looking at another photograph that shows the four in the very last photograph that would ever be taken of them - from 22 August 1969, exactly seven years later, to the day and, from the looks of the light, perhaps the hour.
[The BBC does not have permission to use the photographs Adam mentions but they can be viewed here:
http://www.feelnumb.com/2010/03/01/firs ... th-george/ ]

There is something eerie, fated, cosmic about the Beatles - those seven quick years of fame and then decades of after-shock.
They appear in public as a unit on 22 August and disappear as a unit, Mary Poppins like, exactly seven years later. Or take their beautiful song "Eleanor Rigby". Though Paul McCartney can recall in minute detail how he made the name up in 1965, it turns out that in St Peter's Woolton Parish Church cemetery, just a few yards from where Paul first met John on 6 July 1957, there is a gravestone, humble but clearly marked, for one Eleanor Rigby.

Paul must have made an unconscious mental photograph on that fateful day and kept it with him through the decade. Even things that they did in a pettish rush become emblematic: they took a surly walk across Abbey Road because they were too exhausted to go where they had meant to go for the album cover, and now every American tourist in London walks the same crossing, and invests their bad-tempered stride with charm and purposefulness and point.

The Beatles remain. It is no accident that the Queen's Jubilee, that other one, ended with Macca singing four Beatles songs. It wasn't just nice; it was only fitting. (Though it's a shame Ringo wasn't there to do the drumming.)

There's a popular video my kids like called "stuff people never say". Well, they don't say "stuff", and one of the things the video insists that people never say now is "I don't like the Beatles."
Everyone liked them then, and everyone likes them now. My own children fight with me about the Rolling Stones and are baffled by the Spinal Tappishness of Led Zeppelin (why do they scream in American voices?)
But the Beatles are for them as uncontroversial as the moon. Just there, shining on.

This is strange. Had the same thing been true for our generation - that the pop music that superintended our lives dated from before World War I - it would have been more than strange, bizarre. Why have they lasted?
The reason we usually give is that they reflected their time, were a mirror of a decade, the 60s, that we still long for.
But the longer that I have listened to them and the more that their time recedes into history, the more vital they sound.

I wonder, even, if truly historic pop figures don't always have a backwards relation to their time. Charlie Chaplin, one of the few artists to have a comparable allure, was at work after World War I, the era of the automobile and the machine gun, one of the most disruptive moments in human history.
But Chaplin's work, rooted in Victorian theatre and the Dickensian novel, evokes the values of the time before.
The city in City Lights and The Kid is the London of 1890, not the New York of 1920. His art, energetic on the surface, was elegiac beneath.

I think this is true of the Beatles, too. The Beatles were not provocateurs, though often mystics, and their great subject was childhood gone by, and what to make of the austere, rationed, but in many ways ordered and secure English world that they had grown up in, and that was now passing before their eyes, in part because of the doors they had opened.

Their most enduring work, the singles Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane tell on one side of the dream memory of a Liverpool garden where a lonely alienated boy could find solace, and on the other of a Liverpool street where a bright, sociable boy could see the world.
Remembered sounds - of brass bands and 20s rick-a-tick ornament their music and children's books. The Alice books particularly, fill their lyrics.

Sexual intercourse may have begun, as Philip Larkin says, with their first LP, but their subsequent ones rarely had too much intercourse with sex.
Their greatest hit singles, She Loves You, and Hey, Jude are songs of avuncular counsel, wise advice given by one friend to another who has got in over his head in a love affair. Peter Sellers did a hilarious piece as a middle-aged Irishman in a pub, using the words of "She Loves You" as natural dialogue passed over the pub table. "You know it's up to you. Apologise to her." It worked not because it was so incongruous but because it sounded so congruous, so sensible.

The Beatles' music endures, I think, above all because we sense in it the power of the collaboration of opposites. John had reach. He instinctively understood that what separates an artist from an entertainer is that an artist seeks to astonish, even shock, his audience. Paul had grasp, above all of the materials of music, and knew instinctively that astonishing art that fails to entertain is mere avant-gardism.

We see the difference when they were wrenched apart: Paul still had a hundred wonderful melodies and only sporadic artistic ambition, while John still had lots of artistic ambition but only a sporadic handful of melodies. But in those seven years when John's reach met Paul's grasp, we all climbed Everest. (Not an arbitrary choice by the way: Everest was to be the title of their last album, and the place they had meant to go before they ended up going outside to Abbey Road instead.)

The fatefulness of their climb haunts many million others. I had moved with the girl who was to become my wife to New York city in the late fall of 1980, and it was with joy that we saw a birthday greeting from Yoko to John and Sean fill the sky just after we got there. That John was back at work in the studio, after five years away, as we soon learned he was, seemed a good omen for us. We were together in our tiny new home late at night when he was killed, just across the park. We might have heard the shots.

I don't think I've ever quite recovered from that night. My essential faith in the benevolence of the universe was shattered. Some compact that, at 20, I thought the world had made with me - that things turned out well, that you ended up in New York with a girl you were in love with and the Beatles across the park - seemed betrayed.
Or rather, I learned in a rush that night the adult truth, which is that the world makes no compacts with you at all, and that the most you can hope is to negotiate a short-term treaty with it - an armistice, which the world, like a half-mad monarch, will then break, just as it likes.

The Beatles' gift was for harmony, and their vision was above all of harmony. And harmony, voices blending together in song, is still our strongest symbol of a good place yet to come.

In the world of symbol and myth that music can't help but create, melody lies behind us, and calls us, as John's beautiful song "Julia" does, to our memory of a better past, or what we want to think was one.
Harmony as symbolic form always lies ahead, as the realised-here herald of a better world where all opposites will sing together as one. That's why even Bach and Handel ended their greatest works with a chorale - to cheer us on to a world we might get to by hearing a chorus that sounds like it's already got there.

Art makes us alive and aware and sometimes afraid but it rarely makes us glad. Fifty years on, the Beatles live because they still give us that most amazing of feelings: the apprehension of a happiness that we can hold, like a hand.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18449107

I've marked the 22nd of August in my diary... 8)
 
Posting that Beatles story seems to have triggered another coincidence:

In town this lunchtime I saw an oldish guy wearing a Beatles T-shirt. But this was apparently a brand-new one, bright colours, no stains, etc. It seemed to be advertising some gig in New York, but I didn't get close enough to catch all the details. Anyway, unusual enough to be worth mentioning!

It occurred to me later that it could have been a Father's Day present, which would explain the newness.
 
Today I saw a news item about the discovery of a WWII torpedo. Later, browsing the TV listings I found this:
Torpedo Run
Channel 5, from 3:30pm to 5:20pm

War drama about a US submarine commander bent on destroying a Japanese aircraft carrier and avenging the death of his wife and child. The commander's first encounter with the carrier was disastrous when he was tricked into sinking a ship carrying over 1,000 US prisoners, including his own family. Now, as he grows ever more obsessed, he finds himself on a collision course with both the enemy and his second-in-command.

But, a minor mystery: when I tried to find the news story again, I couldn't! :shock:
(I'd only used 4 online news sites, and two of them were local news.)

But another search turned up this:
EUROPE>Greece>Thessalonikiin Society, on the 22nd of June 2012

Authorities in Thessaloniki blocked off a busy coastal highway for more than two hours after workers discovered an unexploded torpedo on the waterfront. Police and army experts said the two-meter (six-foot) torpedo dates from World War II and is inactive. It was discovered during work Friday to reshape Thessaloniki’s pedestrian waterfront.

http://www.demotix.com/news/1292931/une ... ch/context
But I've never seen that website before!

Then I thought someone must have posted the story on FTMB. But a search for 'torpedo' found no mention after March this year!

Did anyone else see this story anywhere? At the moment it's a bit baffling! :?
 
Not amazingly interesting but I found it a bit weird at the time.

In primary school I had quite a good friend called Jeehan (think she was Iranian). I was a little bit of a loner and she was one of my few friends back then. Leaving school in year 6 (age 9-10) we went to different high schools and we lost contact almost immediately, as you do. I haven't thought about her in all these years, not even once. I'm now 22 as of last week, but a few months ago I had a random dream about Jeehan, which made me wonder what she was up to when I woke up. That same day, I went into town and went into a Starbucks, and who did I bump into but Jeehan. Just found it weird that in 11 years the only time I think about her (in a dream no less) I bump into her for the first time.
 
Back in 2008, I went to Peru for three weeks. On the day that we went to macchu Picchu, me and the tour guide decided to climb the mountain called Macchu Picchu - which no-one ever does. A few might climb Huayna Picchu - the cone shaped mountain opposite, but the one that overlooks the citadel and that which it is named after, relatively few go up.

So, at the top, at 3pm, we were the 17th and 18th people up there that day (there's a guard at the top with a clicker). Anyway, the 16th person is still there, looking a bit sheepish. He's climbed all that way up, and now the battery in his camera has gone, so he can't take a picture (of a spectacular view). So I says, I'll take it with my camera and email you the pictures. Ok, he says, and hands over his email.

The address ends in .nl, so I say, ah, you're Dutch, I live in Holland.

Where, he says, I live in The Hague.

Wow, so do I, I says, in Duinoord.

No way, he says, so do I. I live in the -----straat.


Guess which street I live in? I'm at No. 15, he's at no. 41.
 
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