Corpse Mishandling

[Tempest63]

Detectives believe they have identified all 35 bodies recovered at a funeral directors in Hull, which is at the centre of a police investigation.

The force said it was also working with the National Crime Agency (NCA) on the investigation "including establishing if what has been respectfully recovered, are in fact human ashes".

Officers cordoned off three Legacy Independent Funeral Directors sites after the force received a report on 6 March of concerns "in relation to the storage and management and processes of the deceased people within those premises".

Hull funeral directors inquiry: All bodies thought to have been identified https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-68580615

Edit. An MP is leading calls for the funeral industry to be regulated after 35 bodies and a quantity of ashes were removed from a Hull company.

Emma Hardy, MP for Hull West and Hessle, said the industry had "no licensing or inspections in place".

In a social media post, Ms Hardy said: "Having spoken to government ministers, I am now calling for the process of bringing all funeral directors under a regulatory system to begin without delay, starting with a consultation.

The Ministry of Justice said it was reviewing funeral sector regulation.

Hull funeral directors inquiry: Calls for funeral regulation and licensing https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-68564030.

 

[kesavaross]

Detectives believe they have identified all 35 bodies recovered at a funeral directors in Hull, which is at the centre of a police investigation.

The force said it was also working with the National Crime Agency (NCA) on the investigation "including establishing if what has been respectfully recovered, are in fact human ashes".

Officers cordoned off three Legacy Independent Funeral Directors sites after the force received a report on 6 March of concerns "in relation to the storage and management and processes of the deceased people within those premises".

Hull funeral directors inquiry: All bodies thought to have been identified https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-68580615

Edit. An MP is leading calls for the funeral industry to be regulated after 35 bodies and a quantity of ashes were removed from a Hull company.

Emma Hardy, MP for Hull West and Hessle, said the industry had "no licensing or inspections in place".

In a social media post, Ms Hardy said: "Having spoken to government ministers, I am now calling for the process of bringing all funeral directors under a regulatory system to begin without delay, starting with a consultation.

The Ministry of Justice said it was reviewing funeral sector regulation.

Hull funeral directors inquiry: Calls for funeral regulation and licensing https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-68564030.

I understand what these people have been charged with and why it is a crime. What I don't get, and I may be a bit thick about this, is the why? Is it simply a case of taking the money and then not having the bodies cremated or is it something else?

 

[Tempest63]

I understand what these people have been charged with and why it is a crime. What I don't get, and I may be a bit thick about this, is the why? Is it simply a case of taking the money and then not having the bodies cremated or is it something else?

I don’t understand what the actual crime is. It seems they are checking the cremated remains to ensure they are all human?
I can’t get my head around it … though that is nothing unusual these days

 

[kesavaross]

I don’t understand what the actual crime is. It seems they are checking the cremated remains to ensure they are all human?
I can’t get my head around it … though that is nothing unusual these days

That's now confused me even more. It seems to be how the modern day media and police report some of these 'events'. We get what to me is simply half a story.

 

[Tempest63]

A man has been told ashes he believed were his late wife's are not hers, as police continue to investigate alleged wrongdoing by a Hull funeral director.

Richard Shaw used Legacy Independent Funeral Directors for Rita's cremation in October 2023.

Hull funeral directors investigation: Man told urn does not hold wife's ashes https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-68715185

 

[RaM]

I doubt anyone getting anything but a mixture back to be honest.

 

[maximus otter]

Horror moment woman wheels her dead uncle into bank in shameless scam as she tried to take out a loan in his name

Shocking footage showed the dead man’s head swaying back and forth as her niece tried to get hold of his neck at a bank counter in Rio de Janeiro.

The woman, identified as Erika de Souza Vieira Nunes, can also be seen using her hand to keep her dead uncle's neck upright as she asked him to sign off a four-figure loan.

Pretending to have a conversation with him, she said: "Uncle, are you listening? You have to sign it. I can’t sign for you.

"Sign here and stop giving me a headache," she added as she asked the deceased old age pensioner to hold the pen between his fingers.

One of the bank workers present at the scene said: "I don’t think this is legal. He doesn’t look well. He’s very pale"

To which Erika quipped: "He’s like that."

Cops soon arrested Erika for the scam and revealed she tried to take out a loan for 7,000 Brazilian Reais (£2,500).

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/27367586/brazilian-woman-dead-uncle-bank-loan/

maximus otter

 

[PeteS]

Horror moment woman wheels her dead uncle into bank in shameless scam as she tried to take out a loan in his name

Shocking footage showed the dead man’s head swaying back and forth as her niece tried to get hold of his neck at a bank counter in Rio de Janeiro.

The woman, identified as Erika de Souza Vieira Nunes, can also be seen using her hand to keep her dead uncle's neck upright as she asked him to sign off a four-figure loan.

Pretending to have a conversation with him, she said: "Uncle, are you listening? You have to sign it. I can’t sign for you.

"Sign here and stop giving me a headache," she added as she asked the deceased old age pensioner to hold the pen between his fingers.

One of the bank workers present at the scene said: "I don’t think this is legal. He doesn’t look well. He’s very pale"

To which Erika quipped: "He’s like that."

Cops soon arrested Erika for the scam and revealed she tried to take out a loan for 7,000 Brazilian Reais (£2,500).

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/27367586/brazilian-woman-dead-uncle-bank-loan/

maximus otter

You have to despair don't you. This has happened in the UK as well.

 

[escargot]

I doubt anyone getting anything but a mixture back to be honest.

Do you mean in this instance, or generally?
Crematoria have strict procedures around the identification of remains during the process. You'd normally receive the ashes of the person you're expecting to.

 

[RaM]

They shouldn’t really get other people’s ashes with all the rules but I am not convinced in this case, some bodies were being aloud to get into a very decomposed state so not just to do with ashes.

 

[Analogue Boy]

All he wanted was a Gottle of Geer.