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Corpse Mishandling

Detectives believe they have identified all 35 bodies recovered at a funeral directors in Hull, which is at the centre of a police investigation.

The force said it was also working with the National Crime Agency (NCA) on the investigation "including establishing if what has been respectfully recovered, are in fact human ashes".

Officers cordoned off three Legacy Independent Funeral Directors sites after the force received a report on 6 March of concerns "in relation to the storage and management and processes of the deceased people within those premises".

Hull funeral directors inquiry: All bodies thought to have been identified https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-68580615

Edit. An MP is leading calls for the funeral industry to be regulated after 35 bodies and a quantity of ashes were removed from a Hull company.

Emma Hardy, MP for Hull West and Hessle, said the industry had "no licensing or inspections in place".

In a social media post, Ms Hardy said: "Having spoken to government ministers, I am now calling for the process of bringing all funeral directors under a regulatory system to begin without delay, starting with a consultation.

The Ministry of Justice said it was reviewing funeral sector regulation.

Hull funeral directors inquiry: Calls for funeral regulation and licensing https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-68564030.
 
Tempest63 said:
Detectives believe they have identified all 35 bodies recovered at a funeral directors in Hull, which is at the centre of a police investigation.

The force said it was also working with the National Crime Agency (NCA) on the investigation "including establishing if what has been respectfully recovered, are in fact human ashes".

Officers cordoned off three Legacy Independent Funeral Directors sites after the force received a report on 6 March of concerns "in relation to the storage and management and processes of the deceased people within those premises".

Hull funeral directors inquiry: All bodies thought to have been identified https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-68580615

Edit. An MP is leading calls for the funeral industry to be regulated after 35 bodies and a quantity of ashes were removed from a Hull company.

Emma Hardy, MP for Hull West and Hessle, said the industry had "no licensing or inspections in place".

In a social media post, Ms Hardy said: "Having spoken to government ministers, I am now calling for the process of bringing all funeral directors under a regulatory system to begin without delay, starting with a consultation.

The Ministry of Justice said it was reviewing funeral sector regulation.

Hull funeral directors inquiry: Calls for funeral regulation and licensing https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-68564030.
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I understand what these people have been charged with and why it is a crime. What I don't get, and I may be a bit thick about this, is the why? Is it simply a case of taking the money and then not having the bodies cremated or is it something else?
 
kesavaross said:
I understand what these people have been charged with and why it is a crime. What I don't get, and I may be a bit thick about this, is the why? Is it simply a case of taking the money and then not having the bodies cremated or is it something else?
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I don’t understand what the actual crime is. It seems they are checking the cremated remains to ensure they are all human?
I can’t get my head around it … though that is nothing unusual these days
 
Tempest63 said:
I don’t understand what the actual crime is. It seems they are checking the cremated remains to ensure they are all human?
I can’t get my head around it … though that is nothing unusual these days
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That's now confused me even more. It seems to be how the modern day media and police report some of these 'events'. We get what to me is simply half a story.
 
A man has been told ashes he believed were his late wife's are not hers, as police continue to investigate alleged wrongdoing by a Hull funeral director.

Richard Shaw used Legacy Independent Funeral Directors for Rita's cremation in October 2023.

Hull funeral directors investigation: Man told urn does not hold wife's ashes https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-68715185
 
I doubt anyone getting anything but a mixture back to be honest.
 
Horror moment woman wheels her dead uncle into bank in shameless scam as she tried to take out a loan in his name

Shocking footage showed the dead man’s head swaying back and forth as her niece tried to get hold of his neck at a bank counter in Rio de Janeiro.

The woman, identified as Erika de Souza Vieira Nunes, can also be seen using her hand to keep her dead uncle's neck upright as she asked him to sign off a four-figure loan.

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Pretending to have a conversation with him, she said: "Uncle, are you listening? You have to sign it. I can’t sign for you.

"Sign here and stop giving me a headache," she added as she asked the deceased old age pensioner to hold the pen between his fingers.

One of the bank workers present at the scene said: "I don’t think this is legal. He doesn’t look well. He’s very pale"

To which Erika quipped: "He’s like that."

Cops soon arrested Erika for the scam and revealed she tried to take out a loan for 7,000 Brazilian Reais (£2,500).

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/27367586/brazilian-woman-dead-uncle-bank-loan/

maximus otter
 
maximus otter said:
Horror moment woman wheels her dead uncle into bank in shameless scam as she tried to take out a loan in his name

Shocking footage showed the dead man’s head swaying back and forth as her niece tried to get hold of his neck at a bank counter in Rio de Janeiro.

The woman, identified as Erika de Souza Vieira Nunes, can also be seen using her hand to keep her dead uncle's neck upright as she asked him to sign off a four-figure loan.

uncle-listening-sign-i-t-894738071.png


Pretending to have a conversation with him, she said: "Uncle, are you listening? You have to sign it. I can’t sign for you.

"Sign here and stop giving me a headache," she added as she asked the deceased old age pensioner to hold the pen between his fingers.

One of the bank workers present at the scene said: "I don’t think this is legal. He doesn’t look well. He’s very pale"

To which Erika quipped: "He’s like that."

Cops soon arrested Erika for the scam and revealed she tried to take out a loan for 7,000 Brazilian Reais (£2,500).

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/27367586/brazilian-woman-dead-uncle-bank-loan/

maximus otter
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You have to despair don't you. This has happened in the UK as well.
 
RaM said:
I doubt anyone getting anything but a mixture back to be honest.
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Do you mean in this instance, or generally?
Crematoria have strict procedures around the identification of remains during the process. You'd normally receive the ashes of the person you're expecting to.
 
They shouldn’t really get other people’s ashes with all the rules but I am not convinced in this case, some bodies were being aloud to get into a very decomposed state so not just to do with ashes.
 
Woman admits to stealing parts of corpses and selling them via Facebook

Candace Chapman Scott, a former Arkansas mortuary worker pleaded guilty to charges of selling stolen body parts from medical school cadavers in a nationwide scheme

Candace Chapman Scott, 37, pleaded guilty on Thursday to one count of conspiracy to commit mail fraud and one count of interstate transportation of stolen property. The charges stem from her involvement in selling 24 boxes of stolen body parts to a Pennsylvania man for nearly $11,000.
Candace Chapman Scott, a former Arkansas mortuary worker pleaded guilty to charges of selling stolen body parts from medical school cadavers in a nationwide scheme

Candace Chapman Scott, 37, pleaded guilty on Thursday to one count of conspiracy to commit mail fraud and one count of interstate transportation of stolen property. The charges stem from her involvement in selling 24 boxes of stolen body parts to a Pennsylvania man for nearly $11,000.

Jeremy Pauley, the Pennsylvania man involved in the transactions, had previously pleaded guilty to charges related to the theft and sale of body parts from both the Arkansas mortuary and Harvard Medical School.
Prosecutors allege that she exploited her position to facilitate the illegal transactions.

The University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences in Little Rock has confirmed that the medical school sent cadaver remains to the mortuary, intended for student examination.

According to prosecutors, Scott approached Pauley in October 2021 and began offering to sell him remains from the medical school that the mortuary was supposed to cremate and return. The indictment alleges Scott wrote to Pauley in her first Facebook message: "Just out of curiosity, would you know anyone in the market for a fully in tact, embalmed brain?”

The indictment alleges that over the next nine months, Scott sold Pauley foetuses, brains, hearts, lungs, genitalia, large pieces of skin and other body parts. At one point, the indictment alleges Scott sold the remains of a foetus at a discount, writing "he’s not in great shape." The indictment alleges Scott collected $10,975 in 16 separate PayPal transfers.

As part of Scott's plea agreement, federal prosecutors dropped 10 additional wire and mail fraud charges against Scott. However, she still faces significant penalties, including up to 10 years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000 for the charge of transporting stolen property, and up to 20 years in prison and a similar fine for the mail fraud charge. A sentencing date for Scott has not yet been scheduled.
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What you’d do with body parts I don’t know. A nice stew maybe.

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https://marginalrevolution.com/marg...verything-antiquities-remain-underpriced.html

An auction house has withdrawn 18 ancient Egyptian human skulls from sale after an MP said selling them would perpetuate the atrocities of colonialism.

Bell Ribeiro-Addy, the chair of the all-party parliamentary group on Afrikan reparations, believes the sale of human remains for any purposes should be outlawed, adding that the trade was “a gross violation of human dignity”.

The skulls of 10 men, five women, and three people of uncertain sex, were listed by Semley Auctioneers in Dorset, with a guide price of £200-300 for each lot.

They were originally collected by the Victorian British soldier and archaeologist Augustus Henry Lane Fox Pitt-Rivers, who founded the University of Oxford’s Pitt Rivers Museum in 1884.
 
uair01 said:
https://marginalrevolution.com/marg...verything-antiquities-remain-underpriced.html

An auction house has withdrawn 18 ancient Egyptian human skulls from sale after an MP said selling them would perpetuate the atrocities of colonialism.

Bell Ribeiro-Addy, the chair of the all-party parliamentary group on Afrikan reparations, believes the sale of human remains for any purposes should be outlawed, adding that the trade was “a gross violation of human dignity”.

The skulls of 10 men, five women, and three people of uncertain sex, were listed by Semley Auctioneers in Dorset, with a guide price of £200-300 for each lot.

They were originally collected by the Victorian British soldier and archaeologist Augustus Henry Lane Fox Pitt-Rivers, who founded the University of Oxford’s Pitt Rivers Museum in 1884.
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Disgraceful imo. Shows the depths to which auctioneers will go to.
 
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