Fortean Places To Visit In Italy?

Robbrent said:
Just to say Italy is a brilliant country to visit it's very diverse and you are never far away from some important history, I love the South of Italy it's got a more rustic charm to it (and it's cheaper) there are towns in the mountains that look like they are from a chocolate box 100's of them and yet hardly anyone knows about them, the people are friendly as well
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Every time Italy is on tv I watch it.
 
Robbrent said:
I have never been to a country where they take more pride in their food, and rightly so for example Pizza in and around Naples is the finest I have ever eaten
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I would say the Spanish take equal pride in their food - and you're right, the pizza in and around Naples is the best I've ever eaten too.
 
Robbrent said:
I have never been to a country where they take more pride in their food, and rightly so for example Pizza in and around Naples is the finest I have ever eaten
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Arguably the best food in Europe.
 
SimonBurchell said:
I would say the Spanish take equal pride in their food - and you're right, the pizza in and around Naples is the best I've ever eaten too.
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It s at a different level to Spain, it's peculiar to Italy in my experience, for instance outside of the major City's you won't find any ethnic restaurants, I was told by several Italian friends that they consider their cuisine to be the finest in the world so they are not interested in any other (to be fair they are even like that with other regions, they all think their region has the best food) , and don't get them going about Italian food outside of Italy!
 
Robbrent said:
It s at a different level to Spain, it's peculiar to Italy in my experience, for instance outside of the major City's you won't find any ethnic restaurants, I was told by several Italian friends that they consider their cuisine to be the finest in the world so they are not interested in any other (to be fair they are even like that with other regions, they all think their region has the best food) , and don't get them going about Italian food outside of Italy!
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I would say it is the same in Spain with the regional dishes and home cooking - and immense pride in local dishes and the way they cook it, away from tourist restaurants.
 
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How wierd the beloved and i are going to rome on Monday and I agree it’s a beautiful country and the food is amazing. It’s the one place I would go and live
 
Who me said:
How wierd the beloved and i are going to rome on Monday and I agree it’s a beautiful country and the food is amazing. It’s the one place I would go and live
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Report back please. Thanks.
 
There are all sorts of odd places in Rome.

You could, for example, go to Rome to see the Pyramids - or at least one of them: the Pyramid of Gaius Cestius. He was a senior official in the Roman State religion, one of the Epulones, but that didn't stop him from being buried in a pyramid with a rather Egyptian style burial chamber. It's only open twice a month, so you may not be able to get a ticket.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_of_Cestius

A bit more immediately Fortean is the "Museo delle Anime del Purgatorio" - a collection of artefacts supposedly marked by the hands of souls in Purgatory. It gets mixed reviews on Tripadvisor. But it's a unique idea.

https://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Attr...eo_Delle_Anime_Del_Purgatorio-Rome_Lazio.html

And it's free, or at least it used to be.
 
I certainly will floyd that’s after eating my own body weight in pasta and gelato
 
Who me said:
I certainly will floyd that’s after eating my own body weight in pasta and gelato
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Seriously though, I know some folks on here don't like to 'brag' or appear to be 'showing off' that they've been somewhere, but for those of us who haven't/probably won't ever get to visit these countries, I for one love to hear about them from forum members.
 
Floyd said:
Seriously though, I know some folks on here don't like to 'brag' or appear to be 'showing off' that they've been somewhere, but for those of us who haven't/probably won't ever get to visit these countries, I for one love to hear about them from forum members.
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I never go anywhere abroad.
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I have been to several countries. Italy though, that is a special place. Go if you can.
 

Naples residents camp outdoors after overnight quake​

Rubble on a car in a narrow street in Pozzuoli near Naples
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The epicentre of the tremor was on the coast close to Pozzuoli


Many people in and around the Italian city of Naples have spent the night on the streets and in their cars after an earthquake shook buildings and brought rubble crashing down.

Italian seismologists said the 4.4 magnitude tremor struck at 01:25 local time (00:25 GMT) on Thursday at a shallow depth of 3km (two miles), on the coast between Pozzuoli and Bagnoli.

The quake was felt across Naples and power supplies were disrupted in parts of the city.

In Bagnoli, close to the quake's epicentre, a woman was pulled from the rubble of a partially collapsed house with light injuries.

Naples sits on the Campi Flegrei, a volcanic basin that makes the area in southern Italy prone to quakes.

Thursday's earthquake was felt in several areas of the Campania region.

The scale of the tremor was as big as a quake in May 2024, and it was the biggest in the Campi Flegrei (Phlegraean Fields) for 40 years.
It was followed by as many as six weaker aftershocks.

People left their homes and gathered on the streets of Naples, fearing more tremors.

The bell tower of a local church was damaged and several cars had their windscreens smashed.

In Pozzuoli, one resident told Italian TV that residents were concerned that the tremors of the past two years marked a "different phenomenon from what has happened in the past".

Along the coast, the mayor of Bacoli, Josi Gerardo Della Ragione, said it had been a difficult night, although his town had not suffered damage.

Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni was constantly monitoring the situation and was in close contact with her colleagues, her officials said.
Schools elsewhere were closed on Thursday so that building stability checks could be carried out.

The volcanic basin, which is believed to have been created after an eruption tens of thousands of years ago, is home to more than 800,000 people.

Local officials are especially worried by the increased speed of "bradyseism" - phases of ground movement that lead to a change in the height of the surface of the land.

Francesca Bianco, from Italy's National Institute of Geophysics and Volcanology, told the Ansa news agency that "the rate of the ground rising has trebled recently, going from 1cm to 3cm per month".

Edoardo Cosenza, a civil protection councillor in Naples, said on social media that when the speed of bradyseism increased, it was time to respond: "We know it and we need to know it."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgkm8dxky82o

Are you here/nearby @Piloton.it?
 
Floyd said:
Naples residents camp outdoors after overnight quake


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgkm8dxky82o

Are you here/nearby @Piloton.it?
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As for the situation of Campi Flegrei, we can say that there are no unexpected earthquakes: everything is normal.
This is the official website of the civil protection:

https://www.regione.campania.it/regione/it/tematiche/magazine-protezione-civile/rischio-vulcanico-campi-flegrei?page=1#:~:text=Gli studi consentono di definire,delle casistiche di quel vulcano.
The Phlegraean Fields – Danger and perception of risk

The Phlegraean volcanic system, located northwest of the city of Naples, is characterized by great complexity both because it is a Caldera (*) characterized by the coexistence of numerous craters above all and for the uncertainty linked to the location of the eruptive vent (it is not even possible to exclude that the resumption of eruptive activity occurs from multiple vents at the same time).
The Phlegraean Fields, unlike Vesuvius which is formed by a single and visible cone, are a vast area of volcanic origin, approximately 12x15km wide, made up of hills, in which there is no immediate perception of risk.
A situation aggravated by the absence of recent eruptions (the last eruption of Monte Nuovo dates back to 1538), which makes citizens even less sensitive to the phenomenon: the inhabitants of the area have no memory of the eruption.
Yet the Campi Flegrei have an intrinsic danger: what is highlighted in the scientific forecast aspects are the pyroclastic flows that travel at hundreds of kilometers per hour.
Those exposed to the risk are approximately 500 thousand inhabitants of the red zone and 840 thousand of the yellow zone.However, there are precursor phenomena that thanks to the presence of the INGV with its Vesuvius Observatory we are able to record: such as earthquakes.

(*) Caldera: Large depression of volcanic origin, of sub-circular shape, with a diameter generally greater than a kilometer, characterized by sub-vertical walls and resulting from the collapse of a more or less conspicuous part of the roof of a superficial magma chamber that has emptied following a large eruption.
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So the question isn't "if", but "when".

About the fortean sites in Naples, instead it's a long list.

I suppose the most important is the "Cappella Sansevero" (click right button to translate) with the Anatomical Machines ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatomical_Machines !!!) and the marble statues in the chapel:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cappella_Sansevero#Works_of_art
The chapel houses almost thirty works of art, among which are three particular sculptures of note. These marble statues are emblematic of the love of decoration in the Rococo period and their depiction of translucent veils and a fisherman's net represent remarkable artistic achievement.
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For the Naples underground I suggest the italian page (click right button to translate) of Wikipedia: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sottosuolo_di_Napoli

Talking about Fortian places in Naples means writing an entire book: a little at a time!
 
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Piloton.it said:
As for the situation of Campi Flegrei, we can say that there are no unexpected earthquakes: everything is normal.
This is the official website of the civil protection:



So the question isn't "if", but "when".

About the fortean sites in Naples, instead it's a long list.

I suppose the most important is the "Cappella Sansevero" (click right button to translate) with the Anatomical Machines ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatomical_Machines !!!) and the marble statues in the chapel:



For the Naples underground I suggest the italian page (click right button to translate) of Wikipedia: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sottosuolo_di_Napoli

Talking about Fortian places in Naples means writing an entire book: a little at a time!
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Brilliant!
Grazie.
 
Maybe the "Pozzo di San Patrizio" in Orvieto should be put in another thread ("St Patrick's Thread"?).

As explained on this page there is a little mystery at the base:

https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.36NX8RT
Image of centuries-old Italian well shared with false claim origins 'remain a mystery'
The origins of the Pozzo di San Patrizio -- a historic structure in central Italy -- have been well-documented but online posts have repeatedly shared a picture of the site alongside false claims its beginnings remained a "mystery". Multiple sources indicate the well was dug in the 16th century to supply the city of Orvieto with water in the event of a siege.
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Now the news (I think it's not a coincidence that it came out today) has come out on Italian websites (right click to translate) that the basis of its architecture is the Fibonacci series, therefore the golden number (1.61....):

https://www.msn.com/it-it/viaggi/notizie/il-pozzo-di-san-patrizio-e-il-mistero-della-sezione-aurea/ar-AA1B1bST
St. Patrick's Well and the Mystery of the Golden Ratio
St. Patrick's Well in Orvieto is not only a masterpiece of Renaissance engineering, but it could also be a work born from the beauty of numbers, in particular the golden section and the Fibonacci sequence. This is the hypothesis of Luciano Cencioni, a doctor and great history enthusiast, who studied the proportions of the Well and identified surprising correspondences with the constant of Phidias, the famous 1.618.

"There are eternal works in the world, characterized by a mathematical structure that determines their harmony and objective beauty," explains Cencioni. "Examples of these - he adds - are the Pyramid of Giza, the Parthenon, the Sistine Chapel, the Mona Lisa and even the Vitruvian Man. All these works share a precise numerical ratio, which our brain instinctively recognizes as beautiful."[...]
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Piloton.it said:
As for the situation of Campi Flegrei, we can say that there are no unexpected earthquakes: everything is normal.
This is the official website of the civil protection:



So the question isn't "if", but "when".

About the fortean sites in Naples, instead it's a long list.

I suppose the most important is the "Cappella Sansevero" (click right button to translate) with the Anatomical Machines ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatomical_Machines !!!) and the marble statues in the chapel:



For the Naples underground I suggest the italian page (click right button to translate) of Wikipedia: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sottosuolo_di_Napoli

Talking about Fortian places in Naples means writing an entire book: a little at a time!
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I was forgetting ...
In the Campi Flegrei there is the "Lake Avernus", which was considered the entrance to Hades.

This lake sometimes turns red:

https://gizmodo.com/picturesque-italian-lake-suddenly-turns-blood-red-1848765160
Picturesque Italian Lake Suddenly Turns Blood Red
Lago d'Averno has transformed in just month. Scientists say an algal bloom is to blame.
The waters of Lago d’Averno, a volcanic crater lake in Southern Italy, have transformed since early March to become a murky blood-red due to an overgrowth of algae. The European Space Agency’s Sentinel-2 satellite and local photographers have captured the lake’s eerie new vibe.
Scientists observing the lake believe that the drastic change in color is due to a seasonal algae bloom and the accumulation of nutrients in the lake’s water, according to local newspaper Corriere del Mezzogiorno. Nutrients like phosphorous and nitrogen occur naturally and can be found in many lakes.

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Now that there's some movement in the area, I wonder if the gates of Hades are opening.:thought:
 
Piloton.it said:
Maybe the "Pozzo di San Patrizio" in Orvieto should be put in another thread ("St Patrick's Thread"?).

As explained on this page there is a little mystery at the base:



Now the news (I think it's not a coincidence that it came out today) has come out on Italian websites (right click to translate) that the basis of its architecture is the Fibonacci series, therefore the golden number (1.61....):



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The architect-engineer Antonio da Sangallo the Younger surrounded the central well shaft with two helical ramps in a double helix, accessed by two separate doors that allowed teams of donkeys to carry empty water vessels downward and full water vessels upward without having to cross paths by using the same staircase, and creating a continuous flow of their progress

They must have been very steep ramps. ?
 
Floyd said:
The architect-engineer Antonio da Sangallo the Younger surrounded the central well shaft with two helical ramps in a double helix, accessed by two separate doors that allowed teams of donkeys to carry empty water vessels downward and full water vessels upward without having to cross paths by using the same staircase, and creating a continuous flow of their progress

They must have been very steep ramps. ?
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I confess that I have never been inside: too much difference in height to do on foot.
I'm lazy. :)

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