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[Mighty_Emperor]

I told em you'd want it as a poster but doubt that will happen. Someone mentioned that some of my covers were printed up as posters and sold at Uncon, first I've heard of it, no one asked me about it or offered any extra cash. Out of interest anyone know which covers they were and how much the posters went for? I do remmember talk of a pull-out poster of the Titanic/Mummy for subscribers only but that was years ago.

I'm afraid I'm unsure what the other one was - hence the question mark after the suggestion (sorry for any confusion). It was the HP Lovecraft one that stuck out.

I would like to see more posters if possible - the Aztec one would make a good one (if it hasn't been done) as would your Mongolian Death Worm (as it were - I think I'm channelling the CFZ again - nudge nudge).

 

[Anonymous]

Well that's a relief, the Lovecraft one wasn't one of mine so sounds like I missunderstood and that they weren't my covers as posters after all. Phew

Not sure if the aztec one would make a good poster to be honest as without the masthead and other assorted text the composition is a bit empty. Cover illos have to be designed with lots of dead space so that there's nothing important under the typography, when seen as a whole they should look pretty dynamic but take the type away and you've got a pretty bald and lopsided looking image. I'm in the process of updating my website and trawling through pix to upload - keep seeing a cover and thinking that would be a cracker, then find the original image without the type and they almost all look flat and unfocussed. Which is why I don't update my website very often as it's actually quite depressing. :cry:

 

[Anonymous]

BTW, just uploaded some new stuff to my website after almost a year of inactivity - I hate messing about with websites, just too much hassle.

www.alex-tomlinson.com

It's just what I had to hand as a lot of the stuff I don't have the definative final versions of.

I decided to show small versions of the final printed covers next to illos helps make more sense of the composition (see previous comment)

The original (full colour version) of the latest Nazi Camelot cover is up there as well,
direct link http://www.atoman.btinternet.co.uk/galcamelot.htm

I should say that I've only just uploaded the pages so there may be the odd thing missing, I think evrything is there but sometimes you forget to upload a graphic or a button and you get deadlinks. Some of the pix are quite big so may take time to load, shouldn't be too bad though as I have tried to compress images to a decent size.

Also should point out that you need to disable any pop-up blockers you may have as there is some java floating menus etc which won't load properly if you block pop ups.

 

[Rrose_Selavy]

Was just this nazi cover sent wrapped with the back showing instead so it couldnt' be seen or will they all be sent like that from now on?

 

[Mal_Adjusted]

greets

liked the trick question in the competition!

mal

 

[Mighty_Emperor]

I know I've joked about Owen and his magic milkfloat but my copy was tucked behind the milk bottles at 6:30 this morning (well before the post arrived) :shock:

 

[Mighty_Emperor]

Oh and spiffy cover Alex and thanks for the preview

 

[Bilderberger]

Further to the cover - I was wondering if FT is positioning itself as the Channel 5 of magazines? All this Nazi stuff...

I look forward to the cover with Adolf as the only Gay in the Reich!

 

[Anonymous]

Further to the cover - I was wondering if FT is positioning itself as the Channel 5 of magazines? All this Nazi stuff...

AFAIK this is the first Nazi cover since FT175 Oct 2003 (Nazi Ufos), certainly the first I've done since then anyway, so its not exactly a regular occurrence.

The bald facts are that if you put nazis on the cover of any magazine you are likely to sell twice as many as a regular issue. The same way a Lady Di story will, even now, double the circulation of any tabloid.

The fact is that if FT were only interested in circulation they'd have a nazi cover every other issue. And if they were really going for the lowest-common-denominator-demographic I'm sure they could find some nutter to write a cover feature about 'Diana's secret SS shame - was Lady Di the product of Hitler's wacky Liebensborn programme?' with a second feature to counter the argument entitled 'Was Hitler a jaffa? Single ball probed!'.

I look forward to the cover with Adolf as the only Gay in the Reich!

So do I :lol:
As he had them all executed maybe he was - that is if you only count Goering as a cross-dresser.

BTW I thought Little Britain was BBC3 not Channel 5.

 

[Bilderberger]

Was it really that long ago? How time flies.

I wasn't criticising. Indeed, nazis are good business. Another subject which sells better is one that appeals to even more basic instincts than the horror and fascination surrounding the nazis. Sex.

Hence my reference to Channel 5 - popularly dismissed (often rightly so) as a Channel which fills it schedules with documentaries on nazis and soft porn. That image was shattered by a radical alteration in scheduling which included a Celebrity Reality TV show - The Farm - which entertained the nation with Rebecca Loos jacking off a pig.

So, FTs next step could be to offer a little animal-based Soft Porn on the cover. I'm thinking of perhaps getting Loren Coleman to write an article on Bigfoot sex (one of his pet (!?) subjects). The cover could show a scantily-clad monkey-lady. You know - like Helena Bonham-Carter in the Tim Burton Planet of the Apes. Or, perhaps more like the strangely attractive looking monkey-lady on the cover of teh video of "Playmates of the Apes" - a film I spotted in my local Blockbuster but, alas, have not viewed.

Then again, perhaps trying to compete directly with Bizarre would be rather foolish!

P.S. to avoid confusion - I am joking. Within reason - if a cover assists circulation (which in turn assists advertising, revenues etc and hence quality) then I'm all for it.

 

[Yithian]

Indeed, nazis are good business. Another subject which sells better is one that appeals to even more basic instincts than the horror and fascination surrounding the nazis. Sex.

Although i applaud your call for animal-based pornography covers don't give up on the nazis in favour of sex, simply add sex to the nazi theme!

Jack-booted, Saluting, Nazi-monkey whores.

 

[Bilderberger]

Jack-booted, Saluting, Nazi-monkey whores.

Oh, so you're a member of Blockbuster too.

Personally I preferred "Jack Booted, Saluting Nazi-monkey Whores 2 (The Beckoning)"

 

[dreeness]

Still not quite as sordid as

Michael Moorcock's caption for the cover of All Male Action magazine (The Chinese Agent, 1970) :

Red Nazi Homos in Death Rites of Sex Agony

or

Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS

Something to aim for, follow that dream.

 

[owenwhiteoak]

A romp with Adolf and Eva

Further to the cover - I was wondering if FT is positioning itself as the Channel 5 of magazines? All this Nazi stuff...

AFAIK this is the first Nazi cover since FT175 Oct 2003 (Nazi Ufos), certainly the first I've done since then anyway, so its not exactly a regular occurrence.

The bald facts are that if you put nazis on the cover of any magazine you are likely to sell twice as many as a regular issue. The same way a Lady Di story will, even now, double the circulation of any tabloid.

The fact is that if FT were only interested in circulation they'd have a nazi cover every other issue. And if they were really going for the lowest-common-denominator-demographic I'm sure they could find some nutter to write a cover feature about 'Diana's secret SS shame - was Lady Di the product of Hitler's wacky Liebensborn programme?' with a second feature to counter the argument entitled 'Was Hitler a jaffa? Single ball probed!'.

Just thought I'd point out that "sell twice as many" is a tad optimistic. The "Nazi UFO" cover and themed issue FT175 was the best-selling issue on the newsstand for many years -- but only by a couple of thousand or so. However, FT's profits are so marginal that even that is enough to put a smile on our publisher's face and help maintain the mag. as a going concern. The Da Vinci Code cover was also a big seller, but, sadly, the sales boost doesn't seem to have carried over to the next couple of issues. We always have to balance keeping the mag varied and interesting with commercial concerns -- and often are surprised when an issue sells more than expected or when what we thought was a good cover fails to sell well.

For myself, I'd like to see more people buy FT not for monetary reasons but because I feel that spreading the fortean outlook may make the world, if not a better place, then at least a more bemused one.

But what do I know? (answers on a postcard, please).

 

[gordonrutter]

Well after sending a copy of the Da Vinci Code issue to my mother she has only just got it back from showing it round to various friends and she is now off to buy the latest news stand issue! I think I've made a convert.

Gordon

 

[_Lizard23_]

I have my suspicions about the nazi rune lesson photograph. The blackboard looks photoshopped to my (not entirely untutored) eye, but the caption suggests it is a 'real' image.
Hmm.

(I know Adobe don't like you saying 'photoshopped' and I know that there are a million image manipulation packages, but I'm just doing my bit for language development .... too much hoovering and I need an aspirin )

 

[Mike_Pratt33]

I don't know about the blackboard picture, but I thought the Buffalo pictures looked odd. If not faked then definalty posed.

 

[owenwhiteoak]

Pictures

The SS Runes lesson we saw originally in a published book, and obtained from a large German picture agency. I would be very surprised if there was fakery involved.

How would you expect a bison to look inside a house? They're not generally known for slouching across sofas. Barney has been featured in articles in newspapers and colour supplements. The two photos we used were selected from about 15 or so, again from a large picture agency.

 

[_Lizard23_]

The SS Runes lesson we saw originally in a published book, and obtained from a large German picture agency. I would be very surprised if there was fakery involved.

Thank you.

I'll take your word for it and chalk my initial doubts up to being a cynical old roué(e?) who spends too much time online

 

[Mighty_Emperor]

I don't know about the blackboard picture, but I thought the Buffalo pictures looked odd. If not faked then definalty posed.

I'd imagine they were posed - I wouldn't recommend sneaking up on a bison in such a confined space and startling it with your camera's flash (or any other flash one would have about ones person).

What I want to know is how he signed the release forms - we need to be told!!! OK we we probably don't

 

[owenwhiteoak]

I wouldn't recommend sneaking up on a bison in such a confined space and startling it with your camera's flash (or any other flash one would have about ones person).

I assume you're speaking from personal experience...

 

[Mighty_Emperor]

I wouldn't recommend sneaking up on a bison in such a confined space and startling it with your camera's flash (or any other flash one would have about ones person).

I assume you're speaking from personal experience...

Darn tootin'

And bison are also picky about making sure you take pictures of their best side.

 

[Heckler]

And bison are also picky about making sure you take pictures of their best side.

I can't imagine anyone attempting Bison tipping after one too many brews.

 

[Rrose_Selavy]

I don't know about the blackboard picture, but I thought the Buffalo pictures looked odd. If not faked then definalty posed.

Ok Luvvie. (flash!) show us your beast side,(Flash!) I want to see more horn,(Flash!)
We want more glamour......",








Is that yours on the carpet on the way in?"

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[Anome]

It's made the antipodes.

Of course, I have an assignment due in about 22 hours, and I'm nowhere near finished. So I won't read it yet.

Come to think of it, I shouldn't be on here, either.

 

[StoryofE]

Got mine here in the States today. I've noticed that FT is not carried anymore by my local B&N or Books-a-Million stores.

The pic of the baby with the extra head maybe the strangest thing I've ever seen in FT.

 

[forteanajones]

Cross-posting with Order of the Green Dragon thread. I started a Talk section on this article in the Wikipedia Himmler and Nazi Mysticism pages, in the hopes that someone might be inspired by the article to update Wikipedia.