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Christmas has arrived:

Hythe Mothman
Cursed video games
Santa's saucers
Strange Stories, Amazing Facts - Stu Neville on the Reader's Digest classic
Penis snatching panics

plus more 50th anniversary weirdness and 80s satanic abuse panic revisited
 
Strange Stories, Amazing Facts

I wonder how many of us include this terrific book amongst those which first interested us in all manner of fascinating subjects?
 
Mine popped through the letterbox this morning. That's my afternoon pub session sorted.
I'm looking forward to the Hythe Mothman - I've visited the town a few times when I lived in Kent in the 80's - 90's and never heard of this. Still, it happend a year before I was born so I can't be blamed for nothing.
 
For the first time, the post has failed me. New FT out and I don't have it yet? Truly the world has turned.
 
Mine dropped through the door yesterday morning luckily. Our internet has been down since Friday night and on Sunday at 05.00 it is still not fixed. Having to tether to the work phone.
Anyway, I read the magazine during the day when I had no online access. Bloody BT.
 
Anybody EVER read (or understand) The Haunted Generation? Just seems to be a niche music review.
I do ... in the attempt to understand what hauntology is. :)
I love the Scarfolk 'world' and this has made me wonder: is hauntology the desire to create mysterious, folkloric settings that we seem to be missing in this modern world? Are we re-creating worlds to discover?
I've not heard any 'hauntology' music - ambient? - but the images on the covers are very atmospheric and I think of stories to be set in those locations.
 
Now I've finally got my copy... first impressions.

"Phantom Flings".(pp8-9) The speculation about succubus/incubus attacks is all very reminiscent of a repeated story in the books by Guy Lyon Playfair about living in Brazil and dealing with local folklore, and things of Santeria and voudou. GLP recounted, for instance, the tale of a woman who interfered with a Santeria shrine on a beach near Rio, and who for some time afterwards reported a sense of oppression and the sensation that a visiting spirit was forcibly having sex with her. Her symptoms of exhaustion and being drained of vitality (as related to GLP) are pretty much identical to those related by Amanda Large and Paola Florez. GLP relates this woman needed to perform a ritual of atonement at the shrine she'd interfered with, and to make a peace offering, before her haunting lifted. (As I recall - and it's a long time since I read GLP - this was one of several such cases he dealt with).

"Major Discrepancies" (letters p66) deals with a chap, Mac Brazel, finding the remains of at least one balloon at his ranch near Roswell before the main event in 1947. He describes these earlier finds as not being high-tech and composed of "rubber strips, tinfoil, a rather rough paper and sticks" plus "considerable Scotch tape and some tape with flowers printed upon it."

This is consistent with the Japanese "balloon bombs" which were built in large numbers using available low-tech methods, and which were released into the gulf stream winds in the hope they'd come back to earth again over the continental USA - a desperation weapon built from bamboo, paper and string. Stricky tape with flowers on sounds like the sort of incongruous touch you could expect from Japan (or maybe animé and manga have coloured my perception - it does sound quirky and Japanese, or maybe that was the only sellotape/parcel tape they had). It's not inconceivable some might have drifted as far south as Roswell NM? The USA's a big place, after all, and balloon bombs (or parts of) coming to earth in an arid semi-desert wouldn't be noticed except by chance, and had more chance of being preserved for a year or two.
 
Mostly, yes.
I am always disappointed by how much of 'The Haunted Generation' focuses on music. Aren't there other aspects of hauntology to be discussed? I'm fine that music is part of it, but not one that does a great deal for me personally. I does seem very specialist and esoteric. I usually read the column but don't usually get a lot out of it. I don't like to be critical, and maybe I'm misunderstanding the purpose of the column. If so, please put me right.
 
I am always disappointed by how much of 'The Haunted Generation' focuses on music. Aren't there other aspects of hauntology to be discussed? I'm fine that music is part of it, but not one that does a great deal for me personally. I does seem very specialist and esoteric. I usually read the column but don't usually get a lot out of it. I don't like to be critical, and maybe I'm misunderstanding the purpose of the column. If so, please put me right.

So much of it reads like music journalists' minutiae. Though - as a child of the relevant eras - I'm interested in the various theories and memories, there are surely limits to the merits of nostalgia?

Also...music is such a multifaceted subject (and, therefore, useful for writers seeking sufficient 'copy'); e.g. today I read about the making of the Beach Boys' acclaimed recording God Only Knows, and this subject led the authors to discuss everything from chamber music to Sixties counter-culture to the development of popular music over the decades. More specifically, added to this is the tantalising elusiveness of describing music - effectively a spell, 'poem' or mood - in prose, and one can see why THG people have concentrated on that particular element rather than others; while that's understandable, it is perhaps a missed opportunity.
 
More specifically, added to this is the tantalising elusiveness of describing music - effectively a spell, 'poem' or mood - in prose, and one can see why THG people have concentrated on that particular element rather than others; while that's understandable, it is perhaps a missed opportunity.
Also it's probably the greatest common factor for many of us - certainly this side of the pond there were only three TV channels, the vast majority of programming was irrelevant to us at that age, however the music was more pervasive, radio was still far more a part of everyday life (eg there was no breakfast TV, so many or most families would have had the wireless on of a morning) plus certain artists are incredibly durable: my own son is a musician, knows little or nothing of Children of the Stones or the Spirit of Dark and Lonely Water, but can happily discuss the merits of Pet Sounds (qv) for example. Music has a universality.
 
Absolutely.

I think that parts of my post read cynically, unfortunately, and wasn't meant in that way; sadly it always takes me a while to 'get it'..too often after I've already proffered an opinion. :(
 
mine dropped a couple of weeks ago but not got around to reading it yet. I plan to have a bit of fort binge over the holidays bot reading and also sorting out my books and back issue to see which I am missing. I've been a subscriber for about 3 years now so need to get organised
 
still no sign of my issue, they promised me a replacement copy. they lied.
 
Strange Stories, Amazing Facts

I wonder how many of us include this terrific book amongst those which first interested us in all manner of fascinating subjects?

I've still got my mother's copy from the 70's.
 
I am always disappointed by how much of 'The Haunted Generation' focuses on music. Aren't there other aspects of hauntology to be discussed? I'm fine that music is part of it, but not one that does a great deal for me personally. I does seem very specialist and esoteric. I usually read the column but don't usually get a lot out of it. I don't like to be critical, and maybe I'm misunderstanding the purpose of the column. If so, please put me right.

Me too, and I don't dislike the column/page. I would like to see the scope widened, but, I will confess, I have no suggestions as to how to do so.
 
I'm certain there's more to Hauntology than just music. A wider selection of presentations might explain the field better. I've a very light grasp on what it actually is.
At the moment I'm under the impression that it's a form of 'creepypasta' in that it's fiction surrounding a past generation, with fictional locations.
 
I'm certain there's more to Hauntology than just music. A wider selection of presentations might explain the field better. I've a very light grasp on what it actually is.
At the moment I'm under the impression that it's a form of 'creepypasta' in that it's fiction surrounding a past generation, with fictional locations.

Yes, it's people banging on about how weird the 70s was.

I mean:

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