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Halloween origins, extensions and oddities.
Halloween is less than a month away, so I think it's time for Newbie posters, and the invocation of long dead threads...
Halloween Origins:
I bet most of the people have heard of the following...
1. A celebration of the Celtic new year.
2. Christian overlaying of all saints & all souls day on the
older pagan celebrations.
But are there any other contrarian theories about halloween origins?
This thread talks a little about Halloween origins,
It suggests parts of the halloween tradition have become part of guy fawkes hight (the burning of effigies).
http://www.forteantimes.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5636&highlight=halloween
Trick or treat.
This site gives 2 possible origins of trick or treat.
http://www.strangehorizons.com/2000/20001030/halloween.shtml
1. That the tradition evolved from a "lords of misrule" style day of
pranks, and then, as the article says...
2. This more pious origin..
Another link with guy fawkes night is suggested by this site:
http://www.123student.com/religion/3500.shtml
Note that all the above are American origin,
So, here's something from the UK....
http://www.sorcerers-apprentice.co.uk/hallowee.htm
I find it interesting that the origins of the Halloween traditions are confused and conflicting.
Seems appropriate for a festival of tricks, pranks and restless spirits.
Any other interesting Halloween traditions and references, or annecdotes?
Halloween is less than a month away, so I think it's time for Newbie posters, and the invocation of long dead threads...
Halloween Origins:
I bet most of the people have heard of the following...
1. A celebration of the Celtic new year.
2. Christian overlaying of all saints & all souls day on the
older pagan celebrations.
But are there any other contrarian theories about halloween origins?
This thread talks a little about Halloween origins,
It suggests parts of the halloween tradition have become part of guy fawkes hight (the burning of effigies).
http://www.forteantimes.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5636&highlight=halloween
Trick or treat.
This site gives 2 possible origins of trick or treat.
http://www.strangehorizons.com/2000/20001030/halloween.shtml
1. That the tradition evolved from a "lords of misrule" style day of
pranks, and then, as the article says...
The practice of going door-to-door for candy became widespread in the United States in the 1930s; this was a means of containing the night's traditional mischief and mayhem. Although this did not entirely squelch the toilet-papering of trees or egging of cars on this night, it did provide a new take on an old tradition that brings delight and sugar-highs to children throughout the country.
2. This more pious origin..
Another early form of trick-or-treating dates from 9th century Europe, when beggars walked door to door begging for small "soul cakes" (baked especially for the occasion) on All Soul's Day. For every cake received while going "a-souling," a prayer was said for the dead relatives of the giver. It was thought that a soul's passage to heaven stayed in limbo for quite some time, and that all prayers, even those of a stranger, could ease a loved one's way into heaven. It was also bad form to appear stingy in front of all those visiting deceased relatives!
Another link with guy fawkes night is suggested by this site:
http://www.123student.com/religion/3500.shtml
The date [5th of November] became
widely celebrated in England. Bands of revellers began to wear masks on that date
and visited local Catholics during the night demanding beer and cakes for their
celebration. This is the root of what has become known as "trick or treat!".
As French and Irish Catholics immigrated into the colonies, they began to inter-
marry. The combination of their traditions mixed with people of other
nationalities is what led to the current way we celebrate Halloween.
Note that all the above are American origin,
So, here's something from the UK....
http://www.sorcerers-apprentice.co.uk/hallowee.htm
I find it interesting that the origins of the Halloween traditions are confused and conflicting.
Seems appropriate for a festival of tricks, pranks and restless spirits.
Any other interesting Halloween traditions and references, or annecdotes?