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Hologram Phones?

Mister_Awesome

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Don't know if this is the right forum, but this is something that's bugged me for a long time. In the 80's when I would watch cartoons in the afternoons, they would advertise these hologram phones. They had a little pad that supposedly produced a hologram of who you were talking to. If these were real at all, obviously the people at both ends needed at least part of the device. Was this real? Did I dream it? Did it work? Help! :)
 
Mister_Awesome said:
Don't know if this is the right forum, but this is something that's bugged me for a long time. In the 80's when I would watch cartoons in the afternoons, they would advertise these hologram phones. They had a little pad that supposedly produced a hologram of who you were talking to. If these were real at all, obviously the people at both ends needed at least part of the device. Was this real? Did I dream it? Did it work? Help! :)

Do a search on the internet for retro commercials. Check out Youtube and Google video.
 
I remember adverts (yellow pages) from the early 80s that promised (probably, within the mythical five years) that we would be using screen phones. I suppose that with webcams we get something similar, but it is not the same :cry: I also remember that there were a number of people (same era) touting the basics for holographic kit - A company called Evolution (maybe): their idea was to project films from different angles onto a rotating 'helix' - never understood the theory meself...
 
This would have been in the early 80's... I was kind of young so I may be misremembering. I mostly remember being confused about how it could possibly work...
 
Sorry, I don't remember hologram phones - can you dredge up anything else?
 
Vid at link.

Hologram messaging coming of age
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11685582
By Jonathan Amos Science correspondent, BBC News
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* Lasers scan future possibilities
* Holography inventor is honoured
* Holograms: High art or just a gimmick?


STREAMING HOLOGRAPHIC IMAGES IN NEAR-REALTIME
Graphic of system (BBC)

* Many different perspectives of the object or person (1) are captured on a series of cameras arranged in an arc or circle
* That information is processed (2) and sent through a computer link. It could conceivably be sent anywhere in the world
* The 3D holographic printing system (3) receives the information and drives the laser that writes the images on to the screen
* The photosensitive polymer (4) will update every two seconds; a light is needed to illuminate the changing holograms

It has long been a staple of science fiction films - the idea that you could send a moving 3D representation of someone to any location, even on another continent.
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Imagine a very complicated surgical procedure - then with this system surgeons around the world could participate”

End Quote Nasser Peyghambarian University of Arizona

Now, US researchers claim this fantasy is very close to reality.

A University of Arizona team says it has devised a system that can make a holographic display appear in another place and update it in near real-time.

The group tells the journal Nature that the development has huge potential.

"We foresee many applications, for example in manufacturing," said Professor Nasser Peyghambarian from Arizona's College of Optical Sciences.

"Car manufacturers or airplane manufacturers could look at holograms and design their systems in real time. They could look at 3D models and make changes as they go.

"Imagine a very complicated surgical procedure - then with this system surgeons around the world could participate. They could see the whole procedure in real-time and in 3D, and help out," he told BBC News.
Quick draw

Ever since the Princess Leia character was magically projected in 3D during the original Star Wars film, people have wondered if such a technology might really be possible.

The system demonstrated this week is far from the finished product, but it gives a very strong hint of what might be achievable with further refinements.

At its heart is a new plastic screen material that will record 3D holographic images time and time again, every two seconds.
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A demonstration of the speed printing

In the set up described in Nature, 16 cameras recorded 2D images of objects and people from multiple angles, and then sent that information to another location using a computer connection.

At the remote site, a laser was used to "print" the visual information on to the new photosensitive polymer. The 3D image composed of the 16 perspectives decays naturally, but the laser can write the next "frame" before it completely disappears.

The team previously gave an update on its work in a 2008 Nature paper. Back then, its 10cm-by-10cm, one-colour screen could only be updated every four minutes.

The new 45cm-by-45cm, multi-colour screen is re-written in a hundredth of the time.

No glasses are needed to see the images, merely some form of illumination.

And unlike "standard 3D" TV or films that produce a simple parallax effect in which each eye is offered one slightly different perspective on the same object, the scope of the holographic images is built from the many views of numerous cameras.
Challenges ahead

Theoretically, say the researchers, it should be possible to project a full 360-degree hologram, one where an individual standing on one side of the screen sees the front of a printed object while someone standing on the other side of the screen sees its rear.

So while it is not quite Princess Leia being projected in free space, the system could conceivably produce a very rounded telepresence.

The team concedes its prototype system has a lot of development ahead of it, but the researchers believe the first commercial products could be available in a few years' time.

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The polymer will update rapidly

One key advance needed is the ability to re-print the polymer at least 30 times a second. This would give a much more realistic sense of movement. The screen itself needs to be made much bigger and additional cameras would have to be incorporated to provide more detail and at significantly higher resolutions.

And all this would have large processing and bandwidth implications which would likely limit the system's use to high-end applications - certainly in the early stages of commercialisation.

"Coming up with improvements to the polymer is going to take some time, and also coming up with better lasers is going to take some time. In about two to three years, we should be able to do those aspects," said Professor Peyghambarian.

"And then transferring that into a product is going to take another three to four years. But I don't believe there is any physics that would prevent us from getting there."

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