Hong Kong & Macau

James_H

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I know they're not technically nations but seeing as they are culturally distinct and have a special political status, I feel a separate thread from 'China' is appropriate. I put them together because they're close by to each other and share a lot in terms of language, culture and identity.

I know little about Macau but Hong Kong is a very Fortean place. Belief in ghosts, urban legends and all sorts of paranormal stories are widespread. I hope we can collect a grab-bag of such stories and places.

This morning I visited the 'Ten Thousand Buddhas Monastery' in Sha Tin, a popular tourist attraction which I've somehow managed to miss so far. It turns out it's right on my doorstep. It's a beautiful place, reached by a winding stairway up the hill which is lined by gold-painted wooden carvings of religious personages. Some stand on giant crabs, water monsters, and supernal tortoises. Some have ten-foot arms or eyebrows that droop to the ground (like the eyelids of Gogol's Viy). On reaching the first hall, the incorruptible body ('diamond indestructible body', per the label) of the monastery's founder Yuet Kei is on display, though encased in wood.

Photos of the body weren't allowed so I didn't take one but whoever wrote this blog did, if you want to take a look:
http://www.hongkongextras.com/_ten_thousand_buddhas_monastery.html

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Mermaid In Hong Kong (general forteana)
 
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Amazing place.

And on a mundane level....Hong Kong is still allowed to drive on the left, in a UK/Japan style (I see from the blog road pictures) yet China of course drives on the right.

Special Administrative Region or not: will it continue with this differential forever & always?
 

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Amazing place.

And on a mundane level....Hong Kong is still allowed to drive on the left, in a UK/Japan style (I see from the blog road pictures) yet China of course drives on the right.

Special Administrative Region or not: will it continue with this differential forever & always?
I remember there was some debate on what side to drive on on the HK - zhuhai bridge, but I'm not sure how they settled it. The government has been pointlessly and politically eradicating british-era postboxes so who knows what other colonial hang ups they may later want to do away with.
 

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Special Administrative Region or not: will it continue with this differential forever & always?
Trusting the Chinese government to preserve what is unique about Hong Kong is like trusting a wolf to preserve your flock: he might surprise you by doing so, but it's hardly the most likely outcome.

As to Forteana, statues and monuments on turtles are often hopes for longevity. In several Asian cultures the umbilical cord of a baby of important lineage is buried beneath a turtle in the hope of forging a sympathetic affinity between the child and this long-lived species.
 
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Borderline 'Fortean', but here's an interesting little set of picture portraits of Hong Kong's disappearing trades:

Good photography of subjects:
https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/hong-kong-disappearing-trades/index.html

Traditional-Seal Maker,
Paper-Effigy Maker,
Copperware Craftsmam,
Birdcage Maker,
Fortune Teller,
Mahjong Tile Maker,
Tailor,
Letter Writer,
Stencil Maker,
Photofinisher.

Promoting this newly published book:

Sunset Survivors: Meet the people keeping Hong Kong’s traditional industries alive
HK$288.00

By Lindsay Varty
with photography by Gary Jones

Sunset Survivors tells the stories of Hong Kong’s traditional tradesmen and women through stunning imagery and candid interviews. Covering a myriad of curious professions that are quickly falling into obscurity, from fortune telling to face threading and letter writing to bird cage making, readers soon find themselves immersed in the streets of old Hong Kong.

Filled with interviews, photographs and little-known facts about the city’s twilight industries, Sunset Survivors is a tribute to those who keep the flame burning in a city besieged by foreign imports and stiff competition. This book is a celebration of Hong Kong’s cultural identity. It preserves the memory of these hardy men and women, and educates visitors and locals on the foundations on which the city was built.

An up-close and personal look at the industries and workers that gave rise to the Hong Kong of today, Sunset Survivors is more than just a travel or coffee-table book; it is a tribute to the city’s character, a celebration of its roots and a guide to its evolution.

In a city undergoing a dramatic cultural shift, balancing social and political upheaval, the need to document Hong Kong’s traditional livelihoods has seldom been greater. Capturing the true personality of this metropolis, Sunset Survivors is a vital piece of history.​

Source:
https://www.blacksmithbooks.com/boo...ping-hong-kongs-traditional-industries-alive/

 

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Calçada do Amparo
What looks to be a lovely and very up-market part of Macau has an utterly sordid history. During WW2 with mass starvation due to the war running rampant, this particular alleyway which is now full of expensive restaurants and has a nice park nearby was actually the center of major cannibalism. People were allegedly snatched off the streets in broad daylight and eaten fresh within the hour. What is spooky is that they say the ghosts of the eaten still roam the streets at night there.
 

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UFO Sightings over Wah Fu estate in the 1970s

Just pie in the sky?

Google translated from a facebook page:

<Huafu Village witnessed UFO>

Wah Fu Tsuen is the first housing estate in Hong Kong and the most mysterious estate. For Hong Kong people, the most mysterious thing is that Huafu Village is a public housing estate, but it has the same geographical advantage as a luxury home. However, if you want to get something, you have to lose something. It takes courage to live in Huafu Village.

Mass grave and no coffin

Do you know that Huafu Village is actually a mass grave? Huafu Village is just a village name, but the famous name has already concealed its original name - Jilong Bay. Chicken Cage Bay is named after the terrain is difficult to cage. Since the opening of Hong Kong, this is already a Chinese cemetery. It is called the Jilong Bay Cemetery. Until the Japanese occupation, many people killed by the Japanese army were buried here and became mass graves. It was not until 1956 that the public fee field moved to Hehe Stone. Later, in 1963, the government decided to build a public house in Jilong Bay, named Huafu Village, which was officially completed in 1968.

Therefore, some people say that Huafu Village is not arrogant and there is no reason. Legend has it that there is even a "no coffin". It is said that this coffin was originally moved to the Heshi Stone in the same way as other coffins in 1956, but when the staff moved it away, some people disrespected it, so the strange things happened one after another, and then the words had to be chopped. The idea is not to be ill, or to have a misfortune; there is also a saying that the coffin was discovered when the road was opened and the village was ready to be built. Afterwards, the relevant personnel had to seal the coffin to prevent someone from accidentally approaching and causing disaster. Now the coffin is still in place.

So, where is the "not coffin"? It is said that there is an underground passage under the bus stop. The left side of the bus is a sealed stone wall. There is no door, there is a long water pipe, and there is a small hole in the wall to prevent landslides. The coffin is in this place. If you study it carefully, this wall is a bit strange, because this underground passage, especially for the residents to make a big circle, a small basketball court-like place, is so empty.

However, in the past 50 years, what strange things happened in Huafu Village? No. Whether it is because no one dares to provoke this coffin, it is not known. Of course, no one is willing to try it.

UFO covering two public housing estates

Huafu Village does not provoke ghosts, but it causes unidentified flying objects? The scene of witnessing an unidentified flying object in Huafu Village can be regarded as a classic of the unidentified flying object community.

It was a night in the early 1980s. Almost all the residents of Huafu Village looked up to the sky, stayed at home, and did not dare to run out of the house. After seeing, they saw a polygonal, black object in the air. Staying still, this object is very large, covering almost two public housing. Everyone was surprised by this unidentified flying object, and he couldn’t tell why. In a short while, the unidentified flying object slowly rose, and the bottom edge was lit with a white light. Suddenly, the middle part had blue and green lights, and the crust suddenly vibrated, and there was a "beep" sound like a super robot. Five minutes later, the unidentified flying object flew away in the direction of Lantau. However, there is no such thing as an unidentified flying object on Lantau Island.

Although there are a lot of people, it was in the early 1980s, there was no mobile phone filming, and not many people took the camera to shoot. Later, there were only more rumors, saying that no flying objects appeared twice or even more times, but everything was just rumors.

Whether it is not a coffin or an unidentified flying object, Huafu Village is the first public housing estate in Hong Kong to become a more legendary place. It is said that the government intends to rebuild the village of Huafu, but everything has not been implemented. At that time, will they move the coffin, and the legend of the coffin will be true and false, and it will be known at the time.
The Hong Kong UFO Club. Founded by the aptly named Moon Fong.
You are really not alone … Why 10,000 Hongkongers are watching the skies for UFOs
 
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