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Leeds venue's £50k bill to remove Savile name

The owner of a conference centre in Leeds has spent £50,000 ridding the venue of Jimmy Savile's name.
Royal Armouries International (RAI) said Savile's Hall at Clarence Dock had been renamed New Dock Hall.
The firm said it was replacing a large list of branded items, from pencils and badges to its websites and clothing.

Managing director James Vincent said: "Sir Jimmy's name and reputation are irrevocably tainted and we have to remove every trace."
He added: "It isn't just a case of taking down a couple of signs and putting up new ones. We have had to rebrand and renew advertisements, radio campaigns, videos and websites - the Savile's site alone has more than 500 pages."

The £5m venue, which can seat up to 1,000 people, was named after Savile in 2007 and played host to fund-raising auctions after his death.
Since alleged sexual abuse by Savile came to light, his name has been removed from various sites, including plaques outside his home in Scarborough and Leeds's Civic Hall and a footpath sign in Scarborough.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-20123713
 
Its going to be a bit sad if hes innocent, eh?

Still, thats not important.
 
escargot1 said:
gncxx said:
Except under 18s weren't allowed in the TOTP audience. Mind you, now you wonder why they brought that rule in.
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Girls from the Duncroft school went and they were all under 18.

I didn't though, just to clear that up. ;)
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Strange, if you watch the repeats on BBC4 nobody looks 14 at all. Although in the ones from 1977, I believe two of Legs & Co were 17, though they all said they didn't mind Savile because he wasn't as creepy as the other DJs - huh?!
 
Following revelations from Savile's Great Niece, that he allegedly abused her twice, at family gatherings, more news that the rest of the family have not taken the news well, apparently. Meanwhile, Jimmy's wee bit butt an' ben gets the vandal treatment.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...out-about-the-star-molesting-her-8230956.html

'You've brought shame on us all:' Angry family members target Jimmy Savile's great-niece on Facebook after she speaks out about the star molesting her

Revelations came the same day as Jimmy Savile’s Scottish holiday home is attacked by vandals

Independent. John Hall. 29 October 2012

Relatives of Jimmy Savile’s great-niece have reportedly attacked her on Facebook for speaking out about the star molesting her.

The abuse comes after Caroline Robinson claimed that as a 12-year-old she was abused in a room full of relatives, including her late-grandmother - Savile’s sister - who told her “don’t worry, it’s only Jimmy”.

But far from rallying round to support the 49-year-old, who claims she was abused by Savile for a second time when aged 15, Mrs Robinson says her living relatives have instead taken to Facebook to accuse her of lying and “bringing shame on the family”.

Mrs Robinson’s brother Martin Perry allegedly posted: “You are not right in the head.”

He went on: “You have brought shame on all the Marsdens by lying, there will be a nice long line of people wanting to smack you…Never again will I think I have a sister.”

Her niece Louise Perry added: “No one in the family has a clue what you are on about. For you to paint such an awful picture of the family is beyond my belief.”

And Jane Perry, married to Mrs Robinson’s other brother Philip, said: “What a load of bollocks.”

Speaking to the Sun, Mrs Robinson said: “It’s just disgusting. They are the very people I thought I would get support from. I expected it from other folk who did not know but from family is different.”

Mrs Robinson has reported the Facebook abuse to the police, but an officer visiting her home apparently told her there was little they could do.

Mrs Robinson, a married mother of four, claims Savile first inappropriately touched her when she was sat on his knee at a family gathering aged 12.

She said other family members were unaware of the abuse at the time, but when she told her grandmother - Savile’s sister Majorie Marsden - her claims were ignored.

Mrs Robinson says this was because Savile paid for the family’s holidays and the home they lived in.

Last week she told ITV’s This Morning: “If we blabbed on Jimmy or told tales, the fame that surrounded him would've gone. And I loved to say that Jimmy Savile is my Uncle - it made me proud.”

“But for him to suddenly be destroyed over something like this, the family would have had nothing.”

Reports of the Facebook abuse came on the same day vandals attacked Savile’s former holiday home in the Scottish village of Glencoe.

Graffiti, including the words ‘Jimmy the beast’, were daubed on the whitewashed walls of the house – which is thought to be where the disgraced star abused dozens of children over the decades.

What appear to be Masonic symbols were also sprayed on the walls, and the building's doors were also badly damaged.

The incident was reported at around 7.30am yesterday by a passer-by, with other witnesses addig they saw three men in their 20s throwing stones at the building and spraying graffiti.

A black car with its doors wide open was also seen parked outside the house.

Last week officers searched the cottage, called Alt-na-reigh, to look for 'any evidence of any others being involved in any offending with him.'

Frozen in time, Savile’s hairbrush, paperwork, smoking paraphernalia and even biscuits were left scattered around the cottage exactly as he left them.

Other rooms in the cottage, where Savile once entertained Prince Charles over dinner in 1999, contained bunk beds and a double bed all made up neatly with fresh bed linen.
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She brought shame on the family? :confused:
 
That happens a lot in familial abuse cases. The victim is often ostracised because the possibility of abuse is too terrible to contemplate so she must have made it up for attention. There's also the element of guilt - the family either didn't know and feel they should have, or they suspected and didn't dare act.

All shows how manipulative and harmful this abuse is.
 
While we're at it. More information that may go towards explaining why Savile got away with it all for so long. An apparent total lack of joined up thinking and systems failure from the police.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/29/jimmy-savile-allegations-met-chief

Jimmy Savile abuse allegations were not collated, says Met chief

Individual claims made to police and others could together have shown a pattern of behaviour, says Bernard Hogan-Howe

Press Association, guardian.co.uk, 29 October 2012


Abuse allegations made against Jimmy Savile while he was alive could have been linked to show a pattern of behaviour, Scotland Yard's commissioner has said.

Bernard Hogan-Howe said police and other organisations had not collated claims made against the disgraced television presenter. Members of the public may have been discouraged from taking action because of Savile's reputation at the time, he said.

"You might have thought that people would at least have talked about it and intervened. It does look as if from time to time people have been concerned, they've made the start to intervene, but probably then they've relied a little bit too much on his reputation and his word that he did nothing," he said.

"If you accept all the public accounts of the activity then it's possibly spanned 50 years, which is a huge amount of time. First of all within an organisation that's got everybody's respect, but probably it appears that people haven't intervened when they've had suspicions.

"Then of course other organisations including the police have had individual allegations that have not been put together to actually show that this person may well have shown a pattern of behaviour that's been pretty awful."

Four police forces were contacted by seven potential victims while Savile was alive. Surrey, Sussex and Jersey all found there was not enough evidence to proceed. Two potential victims came forward to Scotland Yard, one of whom claimed she had been abused in the 1970s but did not want to pursue a criminal investigation.

Officers are trying to find the original file relating to a second claim made by a woman who alleged she was assaulted in the 1980s, possibly in a caravan outside BBC premises in west London.

Hogan-Howe said a lot of what happened pre-dated changes made to the sharing of police data after the murders of Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman in 2002.

Thirty officers are investigating three categories of allegations: those involving Savile, those involving Savile and others, and those involving others. The commissioner said most of the "others" were involved in the entertainment industry. About 300 potential victims have been identified, and Met officers are following more than 400 lines of inquiry.
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Every allegation, possible tip-off, or investigation, was treated as a one off, without anyone getting a big folder to put them all together in.
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"Nobody will ever know what you have done for this country Jimmy. This is to go some way in thanking you for that."

The peculiar relationship of Prince Charles to Savile is explored on this Grauniad Page

edit: Second sentence rephrased to avoid dubious plural.
 
Kondoru said:
Its going to be a bit sad if hes innocent, eh?

Still, thats not important.
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Do you think he's innocent then?
 
Tony Blackburn was invited to a pool party. He turned up with Jimmy Savile and Gary Glitter. The guy whose party it was said "you deaf idiot, I said bring a pair of Speedos!"

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That's about the cleanest Savile joke I've heard in weeks! :lol:
 
Jimmy Savile 'took girls on late night hospital trips'

An ex-hospital porter in Leeds has told the BBC that Jimmy Savile was regularly handed a key to a building there when he arrived with teenage girls.
Terry Pratt said Savile would arrive at Leeds General Infirmary in the early hours, take the girls to nurses' accommodation and leave before dawn.
Leeds General Infirmary has said it "continues to be shocked by each new allegation" it hears about.

Police are probing claims the late TV star abused about 300 young people.
The hospital also says it is helping police with their investigation.

Savile was well known at Leeds General Infirmary over many years as a volunteer and fundraiser.
But Mr Pratt says he became suspicious when the TV star began arriving in the middle of the night in the late 1980s with girls who seemed "star-struck" and were "not streetwise".
Mr Pratt says Savile would pay these late night visits several times a month, with different girls, asking for the key to the accommodation block. He would spend a few hours there and drop the key back about 5am, Mr Pratt added.

Savile - a TV presenter and DJ - died on 29 October 2011, aged 84.
Scotland Yard are following 400 lines of inquiry as part of the investigation into claims he abused 300 children and young people over a 40-year period.

A BBC inquiry into the culture and practices at the corporation in the era of alleged sexual abuse by Savile began on Monday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20150177
 
Mythopoeika said:
Tony Blackburn was invited to a pool party. He turned up with Jimmy Savile and Gary Glitter. The guy whose party it was said "you deaf idiot, I said bring a pair of Speedos!"

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:lol:
 
JamesWhitehead said:
The second wave seems to be arriving:
Doctors Afraid to Tackle Savile?
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Jimmy Savile scandal: doctors were afraid to tackle BBC star over access
Stoke Mandeville managers feared the TV presenter would take his fundraising millions elsewhere as new abuse claims emerge
Esther Addley and Robert Booth The Guardian, Wednesday 31 October 2012 20.52 GMT

Doctors and managers at Stoke Mandeville hospital were afraid to challenge Jimmy Savile over the free access he enjoyed to wards, out of fear that he would take his fundraising millions elsewhere, a former director of nursing has said, as fresh claims emerged of abuse at the hospital and elsewhere.

Christine McFarlane, former director of nursing and patient care at the Buckinghamshire hospital where Savile volunteered for many years, said the TV star "basically ... had the freedom to walk wherever he wanted" and maintained a powerful position thanks to "subtle bullying" of hospital managers.

In an interview with ITV news , McFarlane said managers "didn't fight that hard" to challenge Savile, who had almost single-handedly raised millions of pounds for the hospital, including the funds to establish its famous spinal unit. "There was a fine balance ... to reach in not upsetting Jimmy."
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Plus more intimate stuff...
 
Sadly, it was all about the money. :(

Last night's Channel 4 News had an interesting item about Savile's time at Broadmoor: catch up

Two experienced mental health nurses are interviewed, who reckon Savile was a psychopath and paedophile. They saw him transgressing and tried to report him but nobody was interested.
 
He made a lot for charity... and for himself:

Jimmy Savile estate frozen after abuse claims

The estate of television presenter Jimmy Savile has been frozen in response to the sex abuse claims made against him, NatWest bank says.
The bank, which is acting as the late DJ's executor, said: "Given the claims raised, distribution of the estate has been put on hold."
Savile's estate is thought to be worth about £4m.
Lawyers representing those who claim they were attacked by Savile are planning to sue the estate for damages.

Police believe the former BBC presenter and DJ, who died last year aged 84, could have abused as many as 300 people over a 40-year-period.
They have described Savile as a "predatory sex offender".
Scotland Yard has said it is following about 400 lines of inquiry as part of the investigation into claims Savile abused hundreds of young girls and some boys, sometimes on BBC premises.

He is also alleged to have carried out abuse at a number of other institutions, such as the high security psychiatric hospital Broadmoor, Stoke Mandeville Hospital and Leeds General Infirmary.

The former BBC TV presenter and DJ, who was knighted in 1996, had been a household name since he presented the first edition of Top Of The Pops in 1964.
The BBC has already announced inquiries into the Savile abuse claims. The first, led by former Sky News head Nick Pollard, is examining whether there were any failings in the BBC's management of the Newsnight investigation into Savile abuse claims.

It emerged recently a Newsnight report into abuse allegations against Savile was dropped in December 2011, shortly before the BBC ran Christmas tributes to the late presenter.
A huge number of claims later came to light following an ITV documentary - Exposure: The Other Side of Sir Jimmy Savile - about the alleged abuse that was broadcast early last month.

Former Court of Appeal judge Dame Janet Smith has begun a review into the culture and practices of the corporation during Savile's time at the BBC. A further review will examine sexual harassment policies at the BBC.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20162980
 
Freddie Starr arrested
Freddie Starr arrested in Jimmy Savile abuse inquiry Entertainer Freddie Starr has been arrested in the police inquiry into sex abuse claims against Jimmy Savile.

Mr Starr, from Warwickshire, was arrested by Operation Yewtree officers on suspicion of sexual offences and has been taken into police custody locally.

He has denied claims he groped a 14-year-old girl in a BBC dressing room.

Meanwhile, an independent review into BBC Newsnight's dropping of a programme about the allegations against Savile will report later this month.

Police said the arrested man fell under the strand of the investigation termed "Savile and others".

The independent review, by ex-Sky News boss Nick Pollard, will seek to establish whether there were any "failings" in the BBC's decision to drop the investigation.

The Pollard Review, will also look at the BBC's handling of material which might have been of interest to the police, which will report to the BBC Executive Board.

There has been speculation that the programme was dropped because the BBC was already planning to run more favourable programmes in tribute to the former BBC presenter, who died in October 2011. The BBC has repeatedly denied such claims.

BBC director general George Entwistle said he was launching the inquiry to shake off the "clouds of suspicion".

Editorial decision

Outlining terms of reference on Thursday, a statement on behalf of the review said: "It will establish whether there were any failings in the BBC management of the Newsnight investigation relating to allegations of sexual abuse of children by Jimmy Savile, including the broadcast of tribute programmes on the BBC. "This will encompass the BBC's handling of material derived from the investigation that could have been of interest to the police or relevant authorities and whether any inappropriate managerial pressure or consideration may have influenced the decision of the editor of Newsnight."

It said the review will examine the editorial decision on the Newsnight investigation and a blog dated 2 October posted by the programme's editor which was changed by the BBC on 22 October 2012.

In the original blog, Newsnight editor Peter Rippon explained the editorial reasons behind his decision to axe the report. He said it was "totally untrue" he had been ordered to do it by bosses as part of a BBC cover-up.

In a correction to the blog, the BBC called it "inaccurate or incomplete in some respects".

Mr Rippon has stepped aside from his role for the duration of the inquiry.

The review's statement said interviews with relevant people will be conducted with support of a barrister, and interviewees are allowed a lawyer.

The review has asked BBC staff for documents and was electronically searching archived documents from relevant people.

Participation in the review, which has already begun, is voluntary.

Police believe Savile could have abused as many as 300 people over a 40-year-period.

He is alleged to have carried out abuse on BBC premises, as well as at a number of other institutions such as the high security psychiatric hospital Broadmoor, Stoke Mandeville Hospital and Leeds General Infirmary
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20174081
 
escargot1 said:
Sadly, it was all about the money. :(
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I don't think it was ALL about the money, some of the people who are coming forward and providing information about his past, were not abused and so aren't going to get anything.

However, I think his fortune should be shared amongst those he is claimed to have abused. It might not get rid of the pain, but its better than seeing it sitting in his bank account.
 
My comment about it being 'all about the money' was not about the victims' about claims for damages. It was about Savile's freedom to commit abuse in various places apparently in return for raising money, for example at Stoke Mandeville Hospital -

In an interview with ITV news , McFarlane said managers "didn't fight that hard" to challenge Savile, who had almost single-handedly raised millions of pounds for the hospital, including the funds to establish its famous spinal unit. "There was a fine balance ... to reach in not upsetting Jimmy."
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I'm all for the victims claiming some dosh from the estate. As BRF says, they're never going to see Savile brought to justice. None of them will get rich on this, it's just a gesture really.
 
CarlosTheDJ said:
When I was a kid my mate got on Jim'll Fix It.

He wanted to meet Michael Barrymore...

...if I remember it right, he had to stand on his head with Barrymore and do the Australian weather forecast.

Genius.
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I went to the same school as that very same person. I remember him bringing his badge in and getting to show it off in assembly.
 
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