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Parallel Universes

dot23 said:
Intaglio - surely you mean Equinox! . . .
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nope I mean Horizon! Just a long, long time ago (all say Ahh poor old thing)
 
Non Fortean outburst follows------- I dont think one can adiquetly describe anything in language and i dont think u can describe the univers in maths either....... The Horizon prog was about scientists and mathematicians constructing working models of the Universe. I think perhapse realy truth is quite simply beond the human brain..........Ends (till the next time)
 
Well. My thoughts on the prog' were more along the lines of:

Making it up as we go along...

Clutching at straws...

Blundering from one thing to another...

What are we up to now? 11 parallel universii ?!!?

Odd when everything else to do with the universe is pretty well infinite.
 
Must have been back in the day when people still thought lasers were cool. Odd that they had similar opening sequences tho'
 
For what it's worth the 'M' theory universes that can be created (according to the last interviewee) 'quite easily in a laboratory' are not the same as the 'branching' universes created from quantum interactions and described in Deutche's (excellent) book described above. The 'M' theory unverses are full-blown de-novo (literally) universes. The interaction of the membrane determines how the 11 dimensions get compressed into 3 (or whatever) and the degree of collapse determines the values of fundamental constants so you get universes with a whole raft of different physics. The quantum multiverse is invoked with every 'observation' of quantum particles momentum or position giving minute variants on each 'reality' that comes into existence.

Thus each universe created by the M theory method could also multiply into infinte variation by the quantum interactions it gives birth to. Deutche's appeal for the acceptance of the quantum multiverse is that it actually explains what we see. Attempts to apply Occam's razor by creating some kind of 'cosmic censor' are, he argues, flawed. In one sense it's sumpremely Fortean - arguing for something that explains reality rather than fudging to fit current dogma.

Deutsch has used his theory to propose the notion of the quantum to promote the idea of a quantum computer. IBM have shown this can work. This changes the whole game as you can think of it as creating bits and bytes not only in the computer that 'exists' in your reality but the 'multiverse' computers as well.

Once again science is not powerful becasuse it is 'true' but 'true' because it is powerful. Particularly if you want to instantly decrypt every piece of information flowing on the web etc...

Fascinating stuff though...
 
Thanks for the link Int!

I was amused that when the page opened directly below the headline "Reality beyond 3d on the verge of detection, physicist says" was an advert for Classmates.Com "Looking for old friends?" :D (well it got a belly laugh from me...)

other than that it was pretty old hat, but evidence for M-Theory by 2005? I like them onions!

Niles "A Universe Of His Own" Calder
 
Anyone reckon we could harnish extra dimesions for power, or would we be meddling with forces beyond our control, allowing the many angled ones into our world;)
 
This Item from Space.com gives quite a nice grounding in the subject as well as some useful links.
 
I a recent poll, Brief History of Time was the most bought but unread book in the UK :D
 
chatsubo said:
For anyone looking for a good book on string theory (one which I understood, and I dropped out of Science after my GCSE's) I would recommend The Elegent Universe by Brian Greene amazon link its like a readable, enjoyable version of a Brief History of Time.
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Does it have equations in it? I'm reasonably brainy but never could learn to speak maths.
 
No equations. Like you I never got my head around that particular dark art
 
Review of Multiverse Theories

This article is an excellent review of the 4 main multiverse theories currently doing the rounds. It is very long but I think it will be of considerable interest to the type of people who contribute to this forum.

It includeds the line "time is an illusion" and then convinces you why.

I'm now going to lie down and try to digest some of the proposals put forward in this article.
 
Re: Review of Multiverse Theories

tzb57r said:
This article is an excellent review of the 4 main multiverse theories currently doing the rounds. It is very long but I think it will be of considerable interest to the type of people who contribute to this forum.
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Good call! I'll try and read it later. :yeay:
 
I've always thought that dreams are gateways to parallel universes. All those bizarre things happening which seem so completely normal.. like in a world where different laws of physics apply. Visions of the future after you've been to a universe where things have happened a little faster, or where they they just exist in a different time frame.. everything that could've been, will be, or has been. It could certainly provide an explanation for God, if there was some kind of multiversal gestalt consciousness that existed.
 
first thoughts

My first thoughts of reading this is ripples in a pond.
but its something i'll have to read and re read ,
then sleep on a few times.
 
Never cease to amaze, these scientists. It's OK to have parallel worlds and time travel and multiple dimensions, all postulated with barely any evidence at all, but mention UFOs or telepathy or ghosts and they'll laugh their asses off and call you gullible and unscientific. These guys are utterly, utterly crazy and we're even crazier for taking them seriously ;)
 
science is truly the new church
would'nt it be funny, if in the future,this period was seen as another dark age.
or could it be a country trying to get a big advantage over the rest of the world by suppressing advancements in certain feilds.
 
ooh- this bit is new to me -
The abstract quantum world described by this evolving wave function contains within it a vast number of parallel classical story lines, continuously splitting and merging -
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Merging?
That's news to me- I thought that the many worlds created by these quantum events remained separate... perhaps it means that an individual could temporarily be two copies which subsequently merge when the conditions are right...
doesn't it?
You could concievably have been two people for a period of time then merge back into one...
I expect this would be a highly unlikely but not impossible event

(there are a lot of those around:))

Level IV is open ended as far as I can see- all possible mathematical structures exist in concrete form?

I bet there is plenty of room in this cosmology for god or gods- getting bigger as they control universes and levels of multiverses (thank you Moorcock)
There could be a god who thought she was the ultimate being in the whole universe -
but a bigger god watching from a higher level multiverse would be mildly amused at her error.
Agnostic and atheistic gods - why not?
 
Sounds a bit like the stuff in Jenny Randles' "Time Storm". Not the greatest piece of literature ever produced, but thought provoking nontheless. My favourite is the woman who saw the futuristic helicopter, then found that the street she saw it from had altered "impossibly" in certain parts, like it had been transplanted from a parallel universe.
 
Of course the theories presented in the article also means that, as they are not physically impossible Daleks and Borg exist either within our universe or in a nearby universe. It also means that the film “Star Wars” is a documentary…. Long long ago and far far away.

The merging thing I took to mean on a quantum level, where the same quantum state of the universe is achieved via two separate routes.
 
Yes, I think you are right- quantum effects do not manifest themselves on the macroscopic level, otherwise things could be in two places at once and all sorts of nonsense.

We might be able to communicate with adjacent branes using quantum gravity (usiong my handy-dandy gravity wave generator)
you could perhaps persuade the inhabitants of the other universes to reconstruct a copy of yourself just like in that old TV programme A for Andromeda...
before long humans could infest the whole multiverse hahaha...
but we couldn't go beyond the event horizon to find our own identical doppelgangers-
or the Borg...
unless there are pre-existing wormhole shortcuts, that is.

This is all like a wierd dream... stranger than Nessie and Mothman.
 
I've only skimmed through the first page and although it looks interesting there are some really controversial (at best unproved)points forwarded as established fact - its looking like pseudo-philosophy to me so far...

Example:

"Space appears to be infinite in size. If so, then somewhere out there, everything that is possible becomes real, no matter how improbable it is."

Why if something is infinite (and this in itself is speculation) must it contain everything possible? I'm sure it could be argued but its just stated. If they want to play philosophy then i'd have to contend that 'Infinite' is a useless 'catch-all' term to cover things we don't fully grasp - not a solid principle from which to extrapolate.

I'll have to have a serious look later, but the only role for 'other worlds' i see is that of metaphysical thought experiments - i'll take some convincing of actual physically existing ones...
 
Merging- it's all true!

Someone else has noticed the potential of the merging aspect of the 'Many-Worlds' hypothesis-
if two divergent universes become identical by chance, they then become the same universe (you could probably invoke Pauli here)

but these universes might have reached that state via a different history...the Alternate View website of John G Cramer includes the suggestion that this merging could mean that the past is as indeterminate as the future, and all interpretations of the past which do not contradict the surviving evidence are correct.
This is of course a speculative fiction -type Website, but it could make for a good SF story/fringe theory/religious cult if you feel inclined.
 
In this universe, I stopped reading the article a little over half-way through. However I have the feeling I've read it all the way, maybe many times... :)

Another great link of interest, with fascinating text and loads of other links can be found here

http://www.btinternet.com/~ugah174/
 
MICHIO KAKU talks parallel universes
Marco: How do you see the experimental confirmation on superstring theory ? How long will it remain an unproven theory?
Dr Michio Kaku: The direct proof of superstring theory may lie far in the future, However, indirect measurements may come fairly soon. Most science, in fact, is done with indirect experiments. For example, we have never visited the Sun but we know that is made out of Hydrogen because we have echoes from the Sun called sunlight. Similarly, we hope to find echoes from the tenth dimension. For example, in Geneva Switzerland, a large Hadron Collider will be turned on and we hope to find particles or super-particles which would be the next lowest vibration of the superstring. Furthermore, dark matter which makes up 90% of the Universe maybe made up of super-particles .

Keith Marsden: Could I exist in a parallel universe and if so would my life take a different course?
Dr Michio Kaku: There are many kinds of parallel universe. If we speak of quantum parallel universe then there may be resemblance to our Universe, except with one quantum difference. For example, if a cosmic ray went through Hitler's mother's womb and Hitler was never born, we could be one quantum event away from a parallel universe without World War 2. However, if the parallel universe is in another dimension then the laws of Physics themselves will change and atoms maybe unstable. And two kinds of matter exist - in those universes, Physics may look entirely different from our own.

Josh Conway: How important is time to the M-Theory?
Dr Michio Kaku: M-Theory is defined in eleven dimensional space time with ten dimensions of space and one dimension of time. So M-Theory only has one time. However, there is some speculation that F-Theory may contain two dimensions of time and ten dimensions of space. So that there would be two times in a twelve dimensional universe. However, F-Theory is only held by a minority of physicists.

Mike Garman: Your theory explains the start of our Universe, but where do the membranes come from that started it?
Dr Michio Kaku: We believe that a multiverse of universes exist like bubbles floating in Nothing. Each bubble forms as a quantum fluctuation in Nothing. We feel that as this bubble forms its matter is dominated by strings and membranes which create musical notes which we see as particles of the universe.

Ross McManus: Can dark matter and black holes be explained using the M-Theory?
Dr Michio Kaku: Partially yes. In M-Theory, black hole solutions exist not only as a remnant of a dying star; they also exist as subatomic particles. So there is an unity between black holes and elementary particles. Also, the next vibration of the string includes a photino or particle which may make up most of the dark matter in the Universe. So dark matter maybe a higher musical note on the string.

Pieter Verhoeven: What is meant by "Bubbles of Nothing"?
Dr Michio Kaku: Boiling water is a purely quantum mechanical event. If water molecules were like billiard balls, water would never boil. Water boils and a tiny fluctuation occurs in water. Similarly, universes maybe created all the time, even as we speak, due to fluctuation in Nothing. In other words, universes maybe for free and Big Bangs, happen all the time like in boiling water.

Peter Wentworth: What are the possibilities for a second Big Bang collision? Is it theoretically possible?
Dr Michio Kaku: There is some speculation that gamma-ray bursters release the greatest amount s of energy since the Big Bang. There is some speculation that they maybe powerful enough to open a hole in our bubble Universe, so that our Universe buds into two universes, creating a baby universe which leaves the mother universe. However, until M-Theory becomes better understood we cannot prove that baby universes can be created from our Universe.

John Reyes: Dr Kaku, how can one travel in time when time does not exist? And if it did, would you know which way to point your ship?
Dr Michio Kaku: Time is like a river. It bends and flows around the Universe. Time may also have whirlpools and also may fork into two rivers. In this way, time travel might be possible. However, you have to have the Plank energy to create a time machine or the energy of a Black Hole. That is far beyond our technology.

Dr: Do eleven dimensions mean there are other life forms of any kind?
Dr Michio Kaku: We do not know if life-forms can exist in another dimension. However, atoms as we know them may not be stable in other dimensions. If we replace Newton's Inverse square law with an inverse tube law then solar systems and atoms fall apart. However, new forms of matter may exist in higher dimensions.

Viva Wright: Is there the possibility that unconscious knowledge is transferred between universes?
Dr Michio Kaku: At the present time, physicist believe that consciousness is confined to the human brain so telepathy between universes may not be possible. However, the problem of consciousness in a quantum-theory is still an unresolved problem. M-Theory is still a quantum-theory.

Nick Rimmington Do you think this theory may explain why the rate of expansion of the universe is increasing?
Dr Michio Kaku: Nobody knows how to calculate dark energy which is causing the Universe to accelerate. The best hope is M-Theory, but no-one knows how to solve M-Theory or the Big Bang. Maybe one of the viewers of this programme will be inspired to use M-Theory to explain the accelerating Universe.

Adam Kirsch: If space is the 5th dimension what are the 6th or 7th?
Dr Michio Kaku: If the fifth dimension vibrates, then ripples on the fifth dimension are visible as light. If the other dimensions vibrate, then the ripples are seen as the nuclear force, so the forces of the universe can be viewed as ripples in hyper-space.

Christopher Sayer: Can a new membrane be created from two membranes colliding?
Dr Michio Kaku: When two membranes or two strings collide, they create new membranes and new string. The diagrams which tell us how membranes and strings collide are like the Feynman diagrams that we see in quantum-theory. Our bodies are symphonies of vibrating strings and membranes. The Chemistry of our body is a consequence of the collision of these membranes and strings.

Simon Lawrence: If the Universe is constantly expanding, when does this sign the end of our known Universe?
Dr Michio Kaku: Our Universe will die in ice rather than fire. Our Universe eventually, trillions and trillions of years away from now, will reach near absolute zero making intelligent life impossible. Therefore, we may have to escape into hyper-space if we are to survive the death of the Universe.

Tom Brown: In theory, is it possible to use the space between the Universes, leaving and re-entering, in order to travel many light years within our Universe, but without time having passed?
Dr Michio Kaku: Einstein's equations give us a possibility to leap into hyper-space through a worm-hole to reach another universe. However, we don't have enough energy to open up such a hole and we don't know how stable such a hole might be.

Brian Whaley: If time has only one dimension how can one deal with the issue of how "fast" time passes - and the difference between "time of day" and time as duration?
Dr Michio Kaku: M-Theory is only mathematically consistent with one dimension of time and ten dimensions of space. M-Theory is mathematically inconsistent for any other combination.

Sam Jenkins: if our Universe is contained within a "bubble", what makes up the surface?
Dr Michio Kaku: The surface of this bubble is the Universe itself. People often ask where did the Big Bang take place? The Big Bang did not take place on the surface of the bubble, it took place inside the bubble, i.e. in hyper-space.

Phil Williams: What is hyper-space?
Dr Michio Kaku: Hyper-space is space beyond three dimensions of space and one dimension of time. Historically, scientists thought that hyper-space could not exist, now we believe that in hyper-space there is enough room to unify all fundamental forces. Four dimensions of space time are too small to unify the four fundamental forces

Chris Norrie: Do you believe in infinity?
Dr Michio Kaku: There are many types of infinity. The age of our universe may increase without limit because our universe is accelerating. In space, however, our universe may be finite in hyper-space but infinite in three dimension just like a bubble. So the farthest object in the universe would be the back of your head.

Patrick Clarke: Are there infinite particles with the same x,y,z & time values as those in my body?
Dr Michio Kaku: Well, in M-Theory there are an infinite number of particles. Each one represents a musical note on a string or membrane, so the atoms of our body are like those of a string. Chemistry is the melodies on these membranes and the universe is a symphony of vibrating membranes and string.

William Joseph: Does M-theory say anything about the idea that the speed of light in our universe may be slowing down?
Dr Michio Kaku: M-Theory reproduces all of Einstein's theory and more. Therefore, the speed of light in a vacuum never changes.

Tony Hall: Does string theory incorporate number theory in its structure?
Dr Michio Kaku: String theory has gobbled up many branches of Mathematics which has astounded mathematicians. However, there is one branch of Mathematics that seems beyond the reach of string theory which is number theory. For example, we do not find Fermat's last theorem in string theory.

Jean: Could black holes be routes from our Universe to the other parallel universes? Could than be why nothing comes out of them?
Dr Michio Kaku: Yes, there is a theory that says that universes may have children, via a budding process in which a universe splits into two smaller universes. However this is just a theory, and we will have to wait until M-Theory is further developed to decide whether universes can have children.

Patrick Clarke: Is the Big Bang where all eleven dimensions have a value of zero?
Dr Michio Kaku: In one solution of M-Theory, our Universe is a four-dimensional ball floating in eleven dimensions. In the other seven dimensions, there could be other bubbles floating. One theory says that the nearest bubble to our Universe maybe one millimetre away from us. This theory will be tested in Geneva in a few more years.

Nigel: Does the rate of vibration of membranes offer a possible connection between them?
Dr Michio Kaku: Large membranes may resemble universes like our own floating in eleven dimensional hyper-space. However, tiny membranes can be viewed as subatomic particles whose vibration and interaction give us the laws of Chemistry. Therefore M-Theory unifies subatomic particles and universes.

Trici Shaw: What is the "F" from F-Theory?
Dr Michio Kaku: F for F-Theory stands for Father. M for M-Theory may stand for Mother, Mystery or Membrane.

Alan Trevitt: If universes are parallel to each other, why does gravity run in only one direction i.e., downwards?
Dr Michio Kaku: Gravity is caused by the working of space time. Therefore, if we have two bubbles close to each other they will distort the space time surrounding them and feel each others gravity. Therefore, dark matter may be the presence of a neighbouring universe that we cannot see.

Alex Greybrook: How was hyper space discovered?
Dr Michio Kaku: The Greeks tried to prove 2000 years ago that hyper-space was impossible. However, Vernhard Riemann proved in the 1870s that hyper-space was possible. Then Kaluza in 1921 showed that universes may exist in hyper-space.

Richie Lunt: Although atoms are stable in our dimension would this be this case in others?
Dr Michio Kaku: Atoms in other dimensions may be unstable because the inverse square law does not hold. However, two forms of stable matter may exist in hyper universes, which are not based on atoms. But, physicists do not know any more than this.

Funky Monkey: Why are the other parallel universe's membranes different shapes. Shouldn't they be the same? Does what happens on the inside effects the universe's physical shape?
Dr Michio Kaku: Membranes can come in many sizes and many shapes. For example, a zerobrane is a particle, a onebrane is a string, a twobrane may be a membrane and a threebrane maybe a universe.

Zhou Fang: M-Theory may be shown to be mathematically possible, but would we ever be able to prove that it is actually the case?
Dr Michio Kaku: Experimentally, we hope to find super particles in the next few years with our atom-smashers. However, I believe that if we are smart enough we could solve the theory and then derive all the laws of Chemistry and Physics. That to me would be a proof that M-Theory is correct. So, those experiments are not really necessary. Theory is enough.

Ross Campbell: Where did the energy required to produce membranes in the first instance come from?
Dr Michio Kaku: The amount of energy necessary to create a bubbled universe is zero. Matter has positive energy, but gravity has negative energy. The sum of the two might be zero. This means that bubbled universes can be created all the time. So the Universe is for free.

Kevin Wan: If the fabric of the Universe is being stretched, does this also mean that the membrane is also being stretched? If so, when will the stretching cease?
Dr Michio Kaku: In one theory, our Universe is a membrane. We live on the skin of this membrane which is constantly expanding because of dark energy. We think this expansion is accelerating and may go on for ever without limit.

Pimmy: Have any major "flaws" or "gaps" been found in M-theory so far which makes it unable to explain something?
Dr Michio Kaku: So far, M-Theory has withstood every mathematical challenge. In the past, previous attempts at a theory of everything could be shown to be mathematically inconsistent. M-Theory is the only theory which seems to be mathematically consistent. However, there are many solutions to M-Theory, one of which may be our Universe. No-one has found that one solution yet.

Adrian: I've heard that in other universes time might flow backwards! Is this true?
Dr Michio Kaku: Not long ago, Stephen Hawking thought that time may go backwards. If the Universe pulsated then during the contraction he thought that time might run backward. However, he has since admitted that he was wrong. Therefore, most physicists do not believe that time will reverse itself in our Universe. If there are time machines, you might be able to reverse time in a small area, but not for the entire Universe.

Trekkie: Is there a possibility of a 12th dimension?
Dr Michio Kaku: In F-Theory the physicists at Harvard University have proposed a universe with two-times, so that you would have to have two watches on your wrist to tell you what time it is. However, most physicists today do not take F-Theory seriously although it seems compatible with M-Theory. This is still a mystery.

Rob Wood: How does M-theory explain quantum entanglement - is it via the collapsed dimensions?
Dr Michio Kaku: Quantum entanglement is a problem for all quantum theories including M-Theory. Quantum entanglement says that the Universe is non-local and that information may travel faster than light,. However, no useful information can be sent faster than light by means of quantum entanglement so there are no paradoxes in time.

Bernard Hunt: Is time just the human awareness; a thing that isn't really a dimension?
Dr Michio Kaku: Space time is an arena on which matter can exist. Therefore, time is a co-ordinate that measures the passing or evolution of an object. Some people have said that time does not exist, which confuses the perception of time with time as a co-ordinate on this arena.

Max Guglia: Apart from empirical speculation, what could be the benefits for humanity of proving the M-Theory?
Dr Michio Kaku: In the short term, nothing. But when Newton worked out the Force of Gravity, he helped to set into motion the industrial revolution. When Faraday worked out electricity and magnetism he set into motion the electric age. When Einstein wrote down E=MC2 he unleashed the nuclear age. Now, we are on the verge of a theory of all forces which may, one day, determine the fate of the human species. Centuries from now, M-Theory, I feel, may eventually determine the destiny of all intelligent life in the Universe.

Horizon Host: Here's our special guest with a final word:
Dr Michio Kaku: I am proud to be part of this BBC documentary, on the cutting edge of my field - M-Theory. It is absolutely essential that scientists speak to the public about the exciting and revolutionary developments rocking the foundations of modern Physics. Hopefully, one of you viewers will be inspired by this programme to become a physicist, who will eventually complete the M-Theory and answer questions like: 'Is time travel possible?' 'Can we journey to another dimension?' and 'What happened before The Big Bang?'
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Source 8) (there are several threads on this kind of thing, maybe time for a mod merge????)
 
I must disagree:

Rob Wood: How does M-theory explain quantum entanglement - is it via the collapsed dimensions?
Dr Michio Kaku: Quantum entanglement is a problem for all quantum theories including M-Theory. Quantum entanglement says that the Universe is non-local and that information may travel faster than light,. However, no useful information can be sent faster than light by means of quantum entanglement so there are no paradoxes in time.
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I have not seen the paper on the fact that no useful information can be sent by entanglement. Can any one enlighten me or is this another scientist saying "It just can't, OK?" I thought that a group of Germans had been sending information at >c using tunneling in a fibre optic and an experiment using Cesium at damn close to absolute zero has allowed a photon to be obeserved leaving the block of cesium before it entered. http://www.thekeyboard.org.uk/Faster than light speed.htm It's near the bottom of a simple article.
 
Perhaps we shall see. Source
China's Great Wall holds the key to quantum future
30 April 2005

Paul Marks
THE Great Wall of China is poised to play its part in pushing back the boundaries of quantum cryptography. Later this year a Chinese team, which has just broken the record for transmitting entangled particles, will test the feasibility of satellite-based quantum communication using the wall.

The Great Wall's new role was revealed after Jian-Wei Pan of the University of Science and Technology of China in Hefei and his colleagues successfully transmitted "entangled" photons through more than 7 kilometres of the Earth's turbulent lower atmosphere without losing the photons' fragile quantum properties.

Quantum entanglement allows two particles to behave as one even if they are very far apart. Measure the property of one particle and you instantly know the property of the other. Entanglement allows you to transmit secure encryption keys over a public channel, but until now the furthest anyone had transmitted entangled particles through air was about 600 metres. This was achieved by researchers at the University of Vienna, who sent entangled photons across the river Danube (New Scientist, 28 June 2003, p 15).

Depending on atmospheric conditions, the amount of air between a base station and a satellite in low Earth orbit is equivalent to 5 to 10 kilometres of air at ground level, so the Chinese experiment brings satellite-based quantum communication within reach.

The team achieved their record distance by improving on the optics used by the Viennese team. Instead of a using a 1-millimetre-diameter laser beam to transmit photons, the Chinese team used large telescopes to transmit laser beams 12 centimetres across. These were beamed to two receivers, one 7.7 kilometres away in one direction and another 5.3 kilometres away in another (Physical Review Letters, vol 94, p 150501). The wide beam ensured clear reception even though one of the beams passed through the polluted air of downtown Hefei, says Pan.

Other physicists in the field are impressed. "I congratulate the Chinese group on their success," says John Rarity, a researcher in quantum communications systems at the University of Bristol, UK. "It shows space-based quantum key distribution is technically possible."

But further tests over longer distances are needed to verify this, which where the wall comes in. "In the autumn we will test transmission of entangled photons between receivers 20 kilometres apart on the Great Wall," he says. "We used to use light from fires on the Great Wall to signal invasions, now we are going to signal the future."
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Pardon me while I have a mythos moment

Dr Michio Kaku: We believe that a multiverse of universes exist like bubbles floating in Nothing. Each bubble forms as a quantum fluctuation in Nothing. We feel that as this bubble forms its matter is dominated by strings and membranes which create musical notes which we see as particles of the universe.
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Yog-sothoth is the Key. Yog-Sothoth is the Gate.

Yog-Sothoth is the Key and the Guardian of the Gate.

www.netherreal.de/gallery/nito/yogsothoth.htm
 
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