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Personal Data On The Internet

Are you on Twitter or Facebook?

  • Yes, both

    Votes: 11 20.4%
  • Twitter only

    Votes: 6 11.1%
  • Facebook only

    Votes: 15 27.8%
  • Neither

    Votes: 20 37.0%
  • Neither, but some other 'social networking' site(s)

    Votes: 2 3.7%

  • Total voters
    54
sherbetbizarre said:
UK.Gov passes Instagram Act: All your pics belong to everyone now

Have you ever uploaded a photo to Facebook, Instagram or Flickr?

If so, you'll probably want to read this, because the rules on who can exploit your work have now changed radically, overnight.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/29 ... _landgrab/

:shock:
I've been thinking about this recently, since I've been throwing a lot of my photos online. But I'm not too bothered, partly because at my age nothing seems to matter much any more - I could be dead soon!

But also I question the actual value of all these online pics. I belong to a photo library which does buy high quality photos - but they're only interested in photos of 3 or 4 thousand pixels or more in size (and that limit has been creeping up). Most stuff on the web is only a few hundred pix - who'll buy that? Even the pics I've been uploading recently only appear on the web at less than 1000 pixels, even when my originals might be 4000 px. So people might copy them, and use them elsewhere, but I can't see that they can make any money from them. So in that sense, they're not actually stealing anything from me.

In fact, I quite like the idea of my pics spreading around the internet - it's a kind of homage, an appreciation of what I created, and thus a kind of immortality - albeit anonymous!
 
rynner2 said:
But also I question the actual value of all these online pics. I belong to a photo library which does buy high quality photos - but they're only interested in photos of 3 or 4 thousand pixels or more in size (and that limit has been creeping up). Most stuff on the web is only a few hundred pix - who'll buy that? Even the pics I've been uploading recently only appear on the web at less than 1000 pixels, even when my originals might be 4000 px. So people might copy them, and use them elsewhere, but I can't see that they can make any money from them. So in that sense, they're not actually stealing anything from me.
With near perfect syncronicity, I got a picture call just now from my photo-library. They're looking for pics of Britain's coasts, for a magazine cover. Whoopee! I thought, my specialist subject (I'm putting together a website of pics of the Cornish coast at present).

But then I looked at the brief in more detail. Minimum dimensions of 4000 x 3000 pixels. That only leaves me with pics from my latest camera to check, as the earlier ones didn't take such big pics, so I'm limited to pics from 2012 onwards. There are other considerations too, but the killer for me is, they want portrait format (magazine cover, remember), and I very rarely take portrait format, and especially not for seascapes! So it was a very quick check, and I have nothing to offer!

That's how hard it is to sell pictures. So a ripped off pic from the web has almost no monetary value in practice.

PS: But the deadline for this picture call is two weeks away, so now I know what's wanted I can try shooting some shots that do meet the specifications. Wish me luck!
 
The Act contains changes to UK copyright law which permit the commercial exploitation of images where information identifying the owner is missing
But on Flickr at least, all pictures are linked to your profile, with a corresponding name and email address at which you can be contacted. I'd say this was enough to identify the owner of the picture and thus most if not all of the photos on Flickr are not "orphan" works. I'm not familiar with Facebook or Instagram so perhaps there the ownership question is more nebulous, but there are certainly enough serious and amateur photographers on Flickr who would be worried about this - but, as I said, there is identifying info relating to each picture so I don't think they would fall within this legislation.
 
Twitter 'knocked off bike' cyclist 'lucky to be alive'

A cyclist has said he is lucky to be alive after being hit by a car whose driver is believed to have tweeted about the crash.
Toby Hockley was on the 100-mile Boudicca Sportive ride in Norfolk on Sunday when he was struck by a car and flung into a hedge, he said.

The incident is being linked to a comment on Twitter by a Norwich woman.
It read: "Definitely knocked a cyclist off his bike earlier. I have right of way - he doesn't even pay road tax!" :shock:
The tweet included the hashtag "#Bloodycyclists".
The message has been forwarded to Norfolk Police, who are investigating.

Mr Hockley, 29, from Norwich, was riding with Iceni Velo cycling club on a narrow country lane, about five miles away from the end of the route at Snetterton.
"A car came tearing round the blind corner and narrowly missed a cyclist in front of me," he said.
"She came on to my side of the road, I took the wing mirror off and I went flying off my bike into a hedge.
"She hit me hard, really hard. I am lucky to be alive.
"But I managed to get out of the hedge and stand up.

"The car was nowhere to be seen. She hit me and she was gone.
"All I know is that it was a blonde girl driving."

The freelance chef said he felt battered and bruised but was able to finish the course after a few roadside fixes to his bike.
"I burst out laughing, I couldn't believe how lucky I was and that I was still in one piece," he said.
"I had a hug with my co-rider at the side of the road and was just full of adrenaline.
"But when I finished, the aches and pains set in and I had a bit of sulk in the cafe and had an ice-cream."

Mr Hockley said he was planning to keep the incident to himself so as not to worry his girlfriend but changed his mind after reading Twitter.
"I think she came across as a very silly girl and made herself look like a bit of a fool," he said.
"I'm not angry, I would just like it known that her stupid comment that I don't pay road tax is not an excuse to treat cyclists like second-class citizens."

The woman's Twitter account has been removed.
Norfolk Police said it was investigating and had spoken to both parties.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-22602141

NFN?! :twisted:
 
:lol: I shouldn't laugh but I did find that rather funny!
 
She was bubbled to the police for that tweet by a concerned person who saw it and the police posted on her twitter feed asking her to attend her local station for a 'chat'. It probably wouldn't have gone any further as the police didn't have the details of the cyclist but luckily he saw the story and contacted the police.

Quite amazing that someone feels it's okay to post in a public place that they have potentially hurt or killed someone, but more amazing still her total lack of remorse and in fact her reduction of the victim someone who deserved it just because they were on a bike. :shock:

There are a group of cyclists who collect tweets of this nature and some of them are quite alarming in their aggression and their reduction of cyclists to an 'other' that are ripe for such abuse.

That said bad behaviour from cyclists grinds my gear and I'll point it out to them, because it's grist for the haters.

This site has the story and some background on the person involved.
 
That said bad behaviour from cyclists grinds my gear and I'll point it out to them, because it's grist for the haters.

Indeed, cyclists who speed through red lights on pedestrian crossings are my bugbear...
 
Quake42 said:
Indeed, cyclists who speed through red lights on pedestrian crossings are my bugbear...

I had a rather mild looking (well before I opened my cake hole) lady attempt to push me off my bike after I pointed out to her that the light she had just sailed through was red. Not the first time I have been compared verbally to a lady's nethers but probably the one time I didn't deserve it.
 
I really hate it when they cycle on pavements, but don't use a bell. Shouting at me to move my arse as you speed along isn't really on!! And that, folks, is what grinds my gears! :x
 
cherrybomb said:
I really hate it when they cycle on pavements, but don't use a bell. Shouting at me to move my arse as you speed along isn't really on!! And that, folks, is what grinds my gears! :x

Unless they are five years old I don't see a need for it either.
 
Heckler20 said:
cherrybomb said:
I really hate it when they cycle on pavements, but don't use a bell. Shouting at me to move my arse as you speed along isn't really on!! And that, folks, is what grinds my gears! :x

Unless they are five years old I don't see a need for it either.

Agreed! I can understand sometimes needing to ride on the pavement - but surely take a bit of care with people walking about, etc!
I've never ridden a bike in my life & I don't drive so I'm at the bottom of the pile :(
 
I don't honestly know why people feel the need to do that. There's times it's somewhere between handy and expedient to cycle on the pavement and if there's no-one around and nowhere someone can suddenly appear from or maybe the path is really wide and there's one person, that's one thing.

Expecting pedestrians to get out of the way on a packed pavement is just massively rude.

My pet hate from the other side of the fence is pedestrians who cross the road very slowly at 45 degrees and/or who step out without looking, presumably because they couldn't hear anything so figured it's safe. Usually happens while passing through studentland or near to colleges.
 
Emma Way: Cyclist tweet 'was stupid' says driver
23 May 2013 Last updated at 18:14
[video]

The driver whose tweet about an accident with a cyclist landed her in trouble admitted that her Twitter post had been stupid.
Emma Way tweeted: "Definitely knocked a cyclist off his bike earlier. I have right of way - he doesn't even pay road tax!" after an incident in Norfolk on Sunday.

Miss Way, who is facing questions from the police and her employers, told the BBC she would take the "stupid" comment back if she could.
Her lawyer, Simon Nicholls said his client had been on the receiving end of "nasty threats".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-22639720

Should make twits think twice before they tweet! :twisted:
 
Privacy breach: Xbox One a 'twisted nightmare'

This is not quite the Xbox One unveiling Microsoft had hoped for.

Almost a week after the technology giant lifted the lid on Xbox One, the company has come under fire for "twisted" features that could potentially gather personal data to be sold to the highest bidder.

The new device, which is expected to launch in Australia before Christmas, includes a Kinect motion camera that is able to track movement. Voice commands such as "Xbox on" can be used to control the console, suggesting the camera and microphone are constantly in standby mode.

Tim Vines, director at Civil Liberties Australia, told GamesFIX that Microsoft has a lot to answer for with a product that has the ability to listen and watch everything a person does.

"People should have the ability to turn off the camera or microphone, even if it limits the functionality of the machine," he said. Vines believes privacy is "all about control".

"Of course, if Microsoft doesn't allow that (control), then people should vote with their wallets and skip the next Xbox."

Vines says Microsoft should be upfront about what it does with data collected by Xbox One.

"Microsoft's new Xbox meets the definition of a surveillance device under some Australian laws, so they need to be upfront and tell customers whether anyone else can intercept their information or remotely access their device," Vines said.

This sentiment is being felt the world over, with Berlin's federal data protection commissioner, Peter Schaar, telling Spiegel Online that Xbox One is nothing more than a monitoring device under the guise of a gaming console.

"The Xbox One continuously records all sorts of personal information about me. My reaction rates, my learning or emotional states. These are then processed on an external server, and possibly even passed on to third parties."

Schaar believes this is a major breach of privacy.

"The fact that Microsoft could potentially spy on my living room is merely a twisted nightmare."

Microsoft aims to bring simplicity to the living room with Xbox One, which it calls a "powerful, all-in-one device of modern architecture."

Just make sure you're not planning world domination in front of it.

http://games.ninemsn.com.au/news/privac ... -nightmare
 
Kondoru said:
Its not like the user will care

The user? Yeah, they might only sell one...
 
China anger over teen's Egypt graffiti at Luxor temple
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-22677980

Ding Jinhao's parents apologised for the graffiti at a temple in Egypt

The exposure of a Chinese teenager who vandalised an ancient Egyptian artwork has led to a wave of anger among China's internet users.

On Friday a micro-blogger posted a photo of graffiti at a Luxor temple complex saying: "Ding Jinhao was here."

A 15-year-old boy from Nanjing was then named and his date of birth and school posted online, reports say.

His parents have apologised to a local newspaper, saying they are sorry for his actions, Chinese media say.

Luxor, on the bank of the Nile, is home to a large temple complex, built by Amenhotep III, who lived in the 14th Century BC, and later by Ramesses II.

The graffiti was found carved on ancient stone relief by a tourist named Shen who visited Luxor three weeks ago. After he posted it on his Sina Weibo micro-blogging account, more than 100,000 people net users commented.

'Too much pressure'
"We want to apologise to the Egyptian people and to people who have paid attention to this case across China," Mr Ding's mother told local newspaper Modern Express on Saturday.

She added that the teen, now a middle school student in Nanjing, committed the act when he was younger and had realised the seriousness of his actions.

Ding Jinhao's father also appealed for the public to let his son be, saying: "This is too much pressure for him to take."

The boy's identification led to the hacking of his primary school's website, the Global Times newspaper said.

The incident comes as another example of the growing phenomenon of Chinese internet users exposing private information about those perceived to have done wrong.

In recent months a number of officials have been felled or shamed by information made public via micro-blogs.

Egypt's ministry of antiquities was quoted as saying the damage to the temple wall was superficial and measures were being taken to restore it.

But this latest controversy comes days after Wang Yang, one of China's four vice-premiers, said on 17 May that the "uncivilised behaviour" of some Chinese tourists was harming the country's image.

Chinese tourists spent $102bn (£67bn) overseas last year, up 40% on the year before, and the UN World Tourism Organisation says China is now the single biggest source of global tourism income.
 
There's more to this personal data business than getting a slapped wrist for unwise gossip. Here's a man who can see the bigger picture.

Sell your data to save the economy and your future
By Jaron Lanier
Author

Imagine our world later in this century, when machines have got better.
Cars and trucks drive themselves, and there's hardly ever an accident. Robots root through the earth for raw materials, and miners are never trapped. Robotic surgeons rarely make errors.

Clothes are always brand new designs that day, and always fit perfectly, because your home fabricator makes them out of recycled clothes from the previous day. There is no laundry.

I can't tell you which of these technologies will start to work in this century for sure, and which will be derailed by glitches, but at least some of these things will come about.

Who will earn wealth? If robotic surgeons get really good, will tomorrow's surgeons be in the same boat as today's musicians?
Will they live gig to gig, with a token few of them winning a YouTube hit or Kickstarter success while most still have to live with their parents? :shock:

This question has to be asked. Something seems terribly askew about how technology is benefitting the world lately.
How could it be that since the incredible efficiencies of digital networking have finally reached vast numbers of people that we aren't seeing a broad benefit?

How could it be that so far the network age seems to be a time of endless austerity, jobless recoveries, loss of social mobility, and intense wealth concentration in markets that are anaemic overall?

The medicine of our time is purported to be open information. The medicine comes in many bottles: open software, free online education, European pirate parties, Wikileaks, social media, and endless variations of the above.

The principle of making information free seems, at first glance, to spread the power of information out of elite bubbles to benefit everyone.
Unfortunately, although no one realised it beforehand, the medicine turns out to be poison.

While people are created equal, computers are not.
When people share information freely, those who own the best computers benefit in extreme ways that are denied to everyone else.
Those with the best computers can simply calculate wealth and power away from ordinary people.

It doesn't matter if the best computers run schemes called high frequency trading firms, social media sites, national intelligence agencies, giant online stores, big political campaigns, insurance companies, or search engines.
Leave the semantics aside and they're all remarkably similar.
All the computers that crunch "big data" are physically similar. They are placed in obscure sites and are guarded like oilfields.

The programmes that the best computers are running are also similar. First comes the gathering of freely offered information from everyone else in the world.
This might include scanned emails or social media sharing, sightings through cloud-connected cameras, or commercial and medical dossiers; there's no boundary to the snooping.

In order to lure people into asymmetrical information relationships, some treat is often dangled.
The treat might be free internet services or music, or insanely easy-to-get mortgages. The targeted audience eventually pays for these treats through lost opportunities.
Career options will eventually narrow, or credit will become insanely tight.

Ordinary people, or more precisely people with only ordinary computers, are the sole providers of the information that makes the big computers so powerful and valuable.
And ordinary people do get a certain flavour of benefit for providing that value.
They get the benefits of an informal economy usually associated with the developing world, like reputation and access to barter. The formal benefits concentrate around the biggest computers.

More and more ordinary people are thrust into a winner-takes-all economy. Social media sharers can make all the noise they want, but they forfeit the real wealth and clout needed to be politically powerful.

In most cases there was no evil plot. Many of the people who own the top computers are genuinely nice.
I helped create the system, and benefit from it. But nonetheless, it is not sustainable.

The core problem starts with philosophy. The owners of the biggest computers like to think about them as big artificial brains. But actually they are simply repackaging valuable information gathered from everyone else.
This is what "big data" means.

For instance, a big remote Google or Microsoft computer can translate this piece, more or less, from English to another language. But what is really going on is that real translations, made by humans, are gathered in multitudes, and pattern-matched against new texts like this one.

A mash-up of old translations will approximate the new translation that is needed, so long as there are many old translations to serve as sources. Real human translators are being made anonymous, invisible, and insecure.
As long as we keep doing things the way we are, every big computer will hide a crowd of disenfranchised people.

As it happens, the very first conception of digital networked communication foresaw a way out of this trap. I am referring to Ted Nelson's early work, dating back to 1960.
The first idea of networked digital media included a universal micropayment system, so that people would be paid when data they added to a network was used by someone else.
This idea is anathema to the current orthodoxy. If you are bristling, please give what I'm saying a chance.

Just because things have a cost, that does not mean they can't be affordable. To demand that things be free is to embrace an eternal place for poverty. The problem is not cost, but poverty.

Monetising information will bring benefits that far outweigh the inconvenience of having to adjust one's worldview.

Consider the problem of creepiness. Creepiness is when you don't have enough influence on your information life.
Government cameras track you as you walk around town, despite wars having been fought to limit the abilities of governments to do that.
Aside from governments, every other owner of a big computer is doing exactly the same thing. Private cameras track you as often as government ones.
Privacy regulations attempt to keep up, but face dismal odds. Does anyone believe such regulations have a chance?

But what if you were owed money for the use of information that exists because you exist? This is what accountants and lawyers are for.
The government should not be able to spy on you for free any more than the police should get free guns or cars. Budgets create moderation.

If the biggest computers had to pay for information, they wouldn't cease to exist.
Instead big computers would have to earn their way by providing new kinds of value. Spying and manipulating would no longer be business plans, because the raw materials would no longer be free.
In fact, the owners of the biggest computers would do fine in a world of monetised information, because that would be a world with a growing economy.

In a world of free information, the economy will start to shrink as automation rises radically. This is because in an ultra-automated economy, there won't be much to trade other than information.

But this is the most important thing: a monetised information economy will create a strong middle class out of information sharing - and a strong middle class must be able to outspend the elite of an economy for democracy to endure.

While the open information ideal feels empowering, it is actually enriching those with the biggest computers to such an extreme that it is gradually weakening democracy.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22658152
 
Facebook bows to campaign groups over 'hate speech'
By Dave Lee, Technology reporter, BBC News

Facebook has said it will review how it deals with "controversial, harmful and hateful" content after admitting current measures are not effective.
The admission follows sustained pressure from campaign groups, advertisers and the media.
An open letter from several feminist groups urged Facebook to ban pages that they said promoted violence.
In a blog post, the social network said: "We need to do better - and we will."

The company said it would begin rolling out changes immediately after it became "clear that our systems to identify and remove hate speech have failed to work as effectively as we would like".

Marne Levine, Facebook's vice president of Global Public Policy, added: "In some cases, content is not being removed as quickly as we want.
"In other cases, content that should be removed has not been or has been evaluated using outdated criteria.
"We have been working over the past several months to improve our systems to respond to reports of violations, but the guidelines used by these systems have failed to capture all the content that violates our standards."

Facebook has been involved in a number of recent rows over content.
At the beginning of May, it reversed a decision not to remove a video which showed a man being beheaded as it did not break the social network's policy.

Following this most recent outcry, Ms Levine put forward several changes the social network would be making.
She said Facebook would consult lawyers and interest groups to upgrade its guidelines on removing hate speech.
Training of staff will be stepped up, again by working with interest groups to ensure coaching is appropriate.

Facebook also pledged to work to make sure the posters of such material were made to "stand behind the content they create" so that other users could hold them accountable.

Commenting on Ms Levine's blog post, many Facebook users expressed annoyance at the length of time it had taken for the issues to be addressed.
"It took incredible public pressure for you to look at it... you should have had the guts and morals to do it on your own!", wrote one user.

Facebook's response comes off the back of a large-scale online campaign from a number of prominent women's rights groups.
They included the Everyday Sexism Project, a site that uses social media to highlight what it sees as casual sexism in the media and other arenas.

In addition to their letter to the social network, the groups also called on advertisers to boycott the site, noting that their advertising appeared alongside user-created pages showing images of violence towards women that were "shared, boasted and joked about".
One petition calling for action closed with 225,049 signatures
.

The groups called on Facebook to take three specific actions. They were to:
"Recognize speech that trivializes or glorifies violence against girls and women as hate speech and make a commitment that you will not tolerate this content.
"Effectively train moderators to recognize and remove gender-based hate speech.
"Effectively train moderators to understand how online harassment differently affects women and men, in part due to the real-world pandemic of violence against women."

According to campaigners Women, Action & the Media, one high-profile advertiser, Nissan, suspended its advertising on Tuesday.
On Wednesday, the company told the BBC that following Facebook's assurances, it had begun advertising on the platform again.

UK building society Nationwide also took action to remove its promotions: "We welcome the initial commitments made by Facebook yesterday to continue to improve their responses to violations of standards.
"As a responsible and trusted consumer brand, we do feel that sites like Facebook should have stringent processes and guidelines in place to ensure that brands are able to protect themselves from appearing alongside inappropriate content."

Others brands such as Dove said they were working "aggressively" with Facebook to attempt to solve the problem.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22701082
 
More here:

How three women took on sexist Facebook and won
It took just one week for three women to force Facebook to finally block photos which celebrate rape and other brutal acts of violence against women. How did they do it and who are they? Emma Barnett finds out.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens ... d-won.html

However, this catalogue of images and posts, which the women confronted Facebook with, fall extremely far outside of that tent. I can’t publish them here on The Telegraph’s website, which is family friendly (that should tell you something in itself). But the one at the top of this story – which was ‘allowed’ by Facebook’s team of outsourced moderators after it was rightly reported – should give you, dear reader, enough of a bitter flavour of what they were on about.
 
Well, If I wanted everything I objected to removed, there wouldn't be a lot of the internet left.
 
Kondoru said:
Well, If I wanted everything I objected to removed, there wouldn't be a lot of the internet left.

I find that comment objectionable.
 
The trouble with those sort of campaigns is that it starts with them going after something offensive enough that few people would object and then it goes all Mary Whitehouse.
 
Yes, why violence against women? Why not violence against everybody?
 
Well it kind of taps into the Daily Fail 'Porn is bad and your children are looking at porn on the web right now!' meme that seems to paint the internet as a family friendly play park that must be protected from bad stuff, thus removing any requirement for parental responsibility. It's almost an echo of the drugs panic, with such tired nonsense as the 'gateway' principle being recycled as soft core is a gateway, next thing your child will be watching people fellating horses.

The availability of everything right now on the web, has been a total game changer for almost every sphere, but I'm not sure bringing the shutters down because some of that information is unsavoury is the right way forward and does rather smack of Mary Whitehouseism.

Online certainly is a scary place for the unwary, this site regularly gives me the willies for example.
 
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