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Hubbardites spreading into rural Ireland.

A GROUP representing people who have been former members of the controversial Church of Scientology has said it will be joining locals to protest at a site next week that it claims is to be used for drug rehabilitation programmes.

It says the former national school in Ballivor, Co Meath, was bought by the Scientology group at the beginning of last year and is currently undergoing refurbishment.

The Ex-Scientologists Ireland group says the Church, which recently opened a large base in Firhouse in Dublin, plans to run what is called a Narconon drug rehab centre at the Co Meath facility.

"The Narconon programme consists of running, very long sauna sessions and doses of vitamins and minerals many times beyond the safe limits, with serious potential side-effects including organ damage and death," claims ex-scientologist Pete Griffiths.

The first public meeting about the Narconon development in Ballivor was held just before Christmas and attended by 170 people.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-ne...ntology-building-in-rural-meath-36480933.html
They've thought this through, Ireland is going through rapid social change iirc suicides in young males are at an all time high and many are unsure of themselves and their place in society. It's low hanging fruit for a predatory organisation.
 

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"The Narconon programme consists of running, very long sauna sessions and doses of vitamins and minerals many times beyond the safe limits, with serious potential side-effects including organ damage and death," claims ex-scientologist Pete Griffiths.36480933.html
It's sad how people are persuaded that basic science is Scientological magic. They give people massive doses of niacin, which causes skin irritation/itching, then claim it's "radiation leaving the body". They give people going into the saunas towels that have been prepared with iodine solution and starch which, when moistened (e.g. with sweat) turns purple - this is a sign of "toxins leaving the body".
 
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Need for legislation on this.

The Narconon drug treatment programme, which is to be offered by a Scientology-linked rehabilitation centre in Co Meath, does not meet HSE criteria for addiction services, the Department of Health has said.

The Health Information and Quality Authority (Hiqa) and the Department of Health both expressed concerns this week around the opening of a treatment centre where patients spend hours in a sauna while taking huge doses of vitamins. The department said the treatment programme has “limited or no basis” in the science of human physiology and brain functioning.

However, with no legislation currently in place to regulate private addiction treatment services, the Narconon centre, which is linked to the Church of Scientology, will be free to operate in Ireland without permission from the Department of Health or the HSE. ...

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ire...no-basis-in-science-says-department-1.3358153
 

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Need for legislation on this.

The Narconon drug treatment programme, which is to be offered by a Scientology-linked rehabilitation centre in Co Meath, does not meet HSE criteria for addiction services, the Department of Health has said.

The Health Information and Quality Authority (Hiqa) and the Department of Health both expressed concerns this week around the opening of a treatment centre where patients spend hours in a sauna while taking huge doses of vitamins. The department said the treatment programme has “limited or no basis” in the science of human physiology and brain functioning.

However, with no legislation currently in place to regulate private addiction treatment services, the Narconon centre, which is linked to the Church of Scientology, will be free to operate in Ireland without permission from the Department of Health or the HSE. ...

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ire...no-basis-in-science-says-department-1.3358153
Well that’s totally screwed up!
I’ve just Googled Narcanon! Within the first three sentences on their homepage they betray their alliance to Scientology by mentioning LRH!
Have the Irish Government lost their minds? Have they not seen the negative press and hideous case histories?
I feel very sorry for every patient, the family members of those patients and the actual health professionals that have to deal with the very obvious and appalling outcomes that will inevitably happen!
Scientology money talks and it should be clipped at the bud! The sooner this ridiculous cult is shut down by cutting off its funds and preventing its purchasing of property to further its cause the better!
 

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I’ve just Googled Narcanon! Within the first three sentences on their homepage they betray their alliance to Scientology by mentioning LRH!
Have the Irish Government lost their minds? Have they not seen the negative press and hideous case histories?
The problem might well be that while it's easy to see that this program is potentially harmful, many other 'therapies' are allowed which have, in the same way, never been properly verified as working, but are still allowed to be marketed and sold as therapies, often using the weasel words "may help with".

So crystal healing, homeopathy, aromatherapy and so on. I don't think it would do any harm to change the law to cover all forms of therapy with the requirement for double blind randomised trials to verify efficacy. No trial, no sale. If you want to sell a cure, then prove it's a cure. At least twice.

Then we could toss Narcanon out, but we'd also be able to stop some of the other charlatans as well. Probably one or two psychologists a little uncomfortable with that idea but meh.
 
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More strange Hubbardite happenings.

Gardaí are investigating an alleged assault on a young teenager at the new Scientology centre in Dublin.

The 14-year-old's mother claims he suffered a number of injuries, including a fractured wrist, during the alleged incident at the Rathfarnham centre.

It is said to have happened at around 6.30pm last Saturday at the €6m facility in Firhouse which opened three months ago.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breaki...y-14-at-dublin-scientology-centre-823494.html
 

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Just finished watching the Theroux documentary. Weird and scary. But hats off to the way his persistent interviewing style made them uncomfortable and caused the leader on the harrassment squad to run away bleating that he was harrasing her and she demanded he turned the cameras off...
 

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Just finished watching the Theroux documentary. Weird and scary. But hats off to the way his persistent interviewing style made them uncomfortable and caused the leader on the harrassment squad to run away bleating that he was harrasing her and she demanded he turned the cameras off...
Hoist to their own petard! Anyone know if Louis has suffered any subsequent harassment, or has it died down? Or is it once the Scientologists twig you're against them, you're an enemy for life?
 
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He'll probably get a billion years in jail.

PRESCOTT — He stands accused of using a hatchet to bludgeon his sister-in-law and her boyfriend to death and setting the house on fire to destroy any evidence. In a bid to escape the death penalty, he is trying a novel defense:
Scientology made him do it.

Kenneth Wayne Thompson is not arguing that Scientology turned him violent in March 2012. But he is saying his belief in the religion of Scientology helps explain his actions. In particular, he says, his devotion to Scientology's tenets led him on a 24-hour plus drive from his home in rural Missouri to the eventual murder scene in Arizona. Prosecutors say the marathon drive helps show Thompson committed the crimes with premeditation, an element of the first-degree murder convictions they are seeking. On each, the state of Arizona will ask for the death penalty.

Thompson's attorneys will argue to the jury that the act was rational, if understood through the lens of Scientology. Thompson felt he needed to rescue a child, a nephew to his wife, because the boy's spiritual well-being was at risk. Neither the boy nor his sister were in the house at the time of the killings. Raising the defense will make the Scientology belief system part of the court case. Attorneys for Thompson have already subpoenaed records from the Florida-based church. They have also asked for testimony from Scientology experts, including the actress Leah Remini, who has produced documentaries critical of the religion.

https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news...IViz-EnHC3BG0kVkpS_XisZwmrvPnthw8HDqOvSzrOnUA
 

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He'll probably get a billion years in jail.

PRESCOTT — He stands accused of using a hatchet to bludgeon his sister-in-law and her boyfriend to death and setting the house on fire to destroy any evidence. In a bid to escape the death penalty, he is trying a novel defense:
Scientology made him do it.

Kenneth Wayne Thompson is not arguing that Scientology turned him violent in March 2012. But he is saying his belief in the religion of Scientology helps explain his actions. In particular, he says, his devotion to Scientology's tenets led him on a 24-hour plus drive from his home in rural Missouri to the eventual murder scene in Arizona. Prosecutors say the marathon drive helps show Thompson committed the crimes with premeditation, an element of the first-degree murder convictions they are seeking. On each, the state of Arizona will ask for the death penalty.

Thompson's attorneys will argue to the jury that the act was rational, if understood through the lens of Scientology. Thompson felt he needed to rescue a child, a nephew to his wife, because the boy's spiritual well-being was at risk. Neither the boy nor his sister were in the house at the time of the killings. Raising the defense will make the Scientology belief system part of the court case. Attorneys for Thompson have already subpoenaed records from the Florida-based church. They have also asked for testimony from Scientology experts, including the actress Leah Remini, who has produced documentaries critical of the religion.

https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news...IViz-EnHC3BG0kVkpS_XisZwmrvPnthw8HDqOvSzrOnUA
Yeah, I don't think "my beliefs made me kill" is going to work as a defense.
 

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He'll probably get a billion years in jail.

PRESCOTT — He stands accused of using a hatchet to bludgeon his sister-in-law and her boyfriend to death and setting the house on fire to destroy any evidence. In a bid to escape the death penalty, he is trying a novel defense:
Scientology made him do it.

Kenneth Wayne Thompson is not arguing that Scientology turned him violent in March 2012. But he is saying his belief in the religion of Scientology helps explain his actions. In particular, he says, his devotion to Scientology's tenets led him on a 24-hour plus drive from his home in rural Missouri to the eventual murder scene in Arizona. Prosecutors say the marathon drive helps show Thompson committed the crimes with premeditation, an element of the first-degree murder convictions they are seeking. On each, the state of Arizona will ask for the death penalty.

Thompson's attorneys will argue to the jury that the act was rational, if understood through the lens of Scientology. Thompson felt he needed to rescue a child, a nephew to his wife, because the boy's spiritual well-being was at risk. Neither the boy nor his sister were in the house at the time of the killings. Raising the defense will make the Scientology belief system part of the court case. Attorneys for Thompson have already subpoenaed records from the Florida-based church. They have also asked for testimony from Scientology experts, including the actress Leah Remini, who has produced documentaries critical of the religion.

https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news...IViz-EnHC3BG0kVkpS_XisZwmrvPnthw8HDqOvSzrOnUA
Needless to say, "Scientology made me do it" didn't work as a defense.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-guilty-murder-scientology-defense/2941100002

"The jury did not buy it and, after just two hours of deliberation, found Kenneth Wayne Thompson guilty of first-degree murder on Wednesday. "
 
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Hubbardites up to their tricks again. No doubt using this activity as a recruitment tool.

The Church of Scientology has carried out more than 70 community clean-ups at various locations around Dublin over the past year in co-ordination with local councils.

Dublin City Council’s Central Area Committee revealed recently that a community group called A Way to Happiness contacted it seeking to carry out a clean-up in the Guild Street area of the north inner city, including around Sheriff Street Bridge, on March 2nd. The area is one of the most deprived parts of the capital.

“They cut back heavy buddleia and cleared hard-to-reach areas. Their efforts to improve the bridge and its environs have enhanced the area greatly,” the council said in a public domain report.

The Way to Happiness is the title of a 1980 pamphlet by science fiction author and Scientology founder L Ron Hubbard, which lists 21 moral commandments. Hubbard founded the church in 1953. The US and Spain are among the countries that recognise it as a religion, while other governments have declared it a cult.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ire...70-clean-ups-in-dublin-in-past-year-1.3835088
 

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Hubbardites up to their tricks again. No doubt using this activity as a recruitment tool.

The Church of Scientology has carried out more than 70 community clean-ups at various locations around Dublin over the past year in co-ordination with local councils.

Dublin City Council’s Central Area Committee revealed recently that a community group called A Way to Happiness contacted it seeking to carry out a clean-up in the Guild Street area of the north inner city, including around Sheriff Street Bridge, on March 2nd. The area is one of the most deprived parts of the capital.

“They cut back heavy buddleia and cleared hard-to-reach areas. Their efforts to improve the bridge and its environs have enhanced the area greatly,” the council said in a public domain report.

The Way to Happiness is the title of a 1980 pamphlet by science fiction author and Scientology founder L Ron Hubbard, which lists 21 moral commandments. Hubbard founded the church in 1953. The US and Spain are among the countries that recognise it as a religion, while other governments have declared it a cult.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ire...70-clean-ups-in-dublin-in-past-year-1.3835088
Chances are the "volunteers" had to buy their own equipment. As usual.
 
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Hubbardites up to their tricks again. No doubt using this activity as a recruitment tool.

The Church of Scientology has carried out more than 70 community clean-ups at various locations around Dublin over the past year in co-ordination with local councils.

Dublin City Council’s Central Area Committee revealed recently that a community group called A Way to Happiness contacted it seeking to carry out a clean-up in the Guild Street area of the north inner city, including around Sheriff Street Bridge, on March 2nd. The area is one of the most deprived parts of the capital.

“They cut back heavy buddleia and cleared hard-to-reach areas. Their efforts to improve the bridge and its environs have enhanced the area greatly,” the council said in a public domain report.

The Way to Happiness is the title of a 1980 pamphlet by science fiction author and Scientology founder L Ron Hubbard, which lists 21 moral commandments. Hubbard founded the church in 1953. The US and Spain are among the countries that recognise it as a religion, while other governments have declared it a cult.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ire...70-clean-ups-in-dublin-in-past-year-1.3835088
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However, the action has been condemned by the anti-cult group, Dialogue Ireland, who warned that public clean-ups are a common tactic used by cult-like organisations to normalise their presence in local communities

Similar tactics were employed in Ireland in the past by the Unification Church, commonly known as The Moonies, said the organisation’s Mike Garde. He compared it to Scientology’s recent anti-drug campaigns and the efforts of its affiliated association Narconon to set up a controversial drug treatment centre in a Co Meath village.

“Scientology have been doing this for a while. They’re trying to build bridges into the community so they can become identified with positivity.”

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ire...in-clean-ups-getting-mixed-response-1.3835088
 
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