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Coldelephant - Do I undersatnd you correctly? That you don't believe there is a conspiricy any more?
Have you been got at?
Have you been got at?
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rynner said:Mike_Pratt33 said:Coldelephant - Do I undersatnd you correctly? That you don't believe there is a conspiricy any more?
Have you been got at?
Boom boom boom - Another one bites the dust!
Yep - men in black came round and zapped me with that red light flashy pen thingy. 8)
Allow me to be very ellusive and political in my answer to this;
Whilst there is a possibility of a conspiracy, and whilst it is possible that such a conspiracy was initiated by the US government by itself or with those industrialists etc it has close ties to - and whilst it is possible that it could have been instigated years in advance and there may even be some evidence which points in this direction...
...I have to admit that such possibilities are not so probable as the possibility that a variation of the official explanation(s) is/are true.
For that reason, I have taken off my tin foil hat and intend to wrap it around a baked potato and put it in the oven.
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would someone care to list me the hijackers names please.
oh and don't include anyone still alive please !!!
oh and don't include anyone still alive please !!!
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techybloke666 said:
Dunno, but I'm interested to know what the lack of knowledge of precisely who was involved (beyond the fake identities they used, hence one of the 'names' turning up alive) is relevant to anything?
Presumably this all seeing all knowing govermental entity that engineered all this conspiracy would just create a number of perfectly fesible iron proof identities complete with histories and data trails, rather than rather lamely naming a few people their flawed intel pointed to (including the living dead terrorist). Or is that a double bluff and they are just appearing to be inept whilst being actually omnipotent and omnipresent?
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Jason Bourne had lots of identities - what're you getting at? 
Dunno - I don't think the US Government is quite smart enough to pull something like this off. I don't believe in the Illuminati or some such "Secret World Government".
I don't believe in the official version either.
So that leaves me with...argh...a biq question mark :x
I don't believe in the official version either.
So that leaves me with...argh...a biq question mark :x
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Heckler20 said:coldelephant said:Jason Bourne had lots of identities - what're you getting at?
You mean Jason Bourne was involved in this :shock: ? Nah I don't believe it, he was framed for sure.
They programmed him to assassinate the builders, plasterers and engineers that were subcontracted to *ahem* carry out maintenance on the buildings over a period of years - so that nobody would discover that the motheaten decrepit and highly flammable buildings were being used as an insurance cash cow for Bush's friend/brother/cousin/dog (who would of course overestimate the value for the claims later).
Of course, Bourne also had the unenviable task of assassinating all the subcontractors who made all the debris, steel, concrete etc vanish so quickly before it could be analysed to point towards the *ahem* maintenance work.
There was an aftersales support clause in Bourne's employer's contract you see.
*Sigh*. Hard work being a super-assassin.
Never mind, he can take a holiday in th sun as John Michael Kane. Oh hang on, he did that, look how it ended up...these package holidays, I tell you...
Coldelephant,exactly what would these engineers & scientists who might come out have to work with?Videotapes?The 150 some pieces of steel the US government has stored certainly aren't going to be available to them & yet if they obtain steel/dust from any other source they'd question the providence of it,as we've seen with Steven Jones!It's a lose,lose situation.Besides they just come up with someone in the same field to say such & such full of it.
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waitew said:
They wouln't have had much, apart from dust and bits of grape sizes rubble.
You see, before Jason Bourne murdered them all, there was a bunch of lads working under a subcontractor who conscienciously cleared the mess of rubble and scaffolding away; they even dug up the bits of the ground where there was molten metal.
Of course, in case you handn't read this bit of my story; there are no witnesses, Jason Bourne offed them all before he went for a holiday in the sun.
Silly idea to go and have a holiday in the sun, given his history of holidays in the sun (to date); but this man is clearly a glutton for punishment.
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US christens '9/11 steel' warship
Thousands of people have watched the naming in Louisiana of a US warship built partly from steel salvaged from the World Trade Center.
The twin towers in New York were destroyed in the hijacked planes attack of 11 September 2001.
Friends and families of 9/11 victims were among those at the ceremony for the new amphibious assault ship, the USS New York, in the base of Avondale.
The bow contains 7.5 tonnes of steel taken from Ground Zero.
It also bore a shield with two bars to symbolise the towers and a banner with the slogan Never Forget.
Hurricane Katrina
The wife of Deputy Defence Secretary Gordon England broke the champagne with the traditional salute of "May God bless this ship and all who sail on her".
Mr England said the name of the ship would be a source of strength and inspiration to the crew.
In the US Navy, state names are normally reserved for submarines, but former New York Governor George Pataki had asked for the ship to carry the name.
During construction the ship also had to survive the onslaught of Hurricane Katrina in 2005.
The USS New York will be commissioned into service next year.
Lee Ielpi, president of the September 11th Families' Association, told Associated Press: "We're sending a message that we're standing strong. This ship, as it cuts through the water, is going to send a ripple. That ripple will say, 'We cherish our freedom'."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7273407.stm
Evidence? What evidence?
Thousands of people have watched the naming in Louisiana of a US warship built partly from steel salvaged from the World Trade Center.
The twin towers in New York were destroyed in the hijacked planes attack of 11 September 2001.
Friends and families of 9/11 victims were among those at the ceremony for the new amphibious assault ship, the USS New York, in the base of Avondale.
The bow contains 7.5 tonnes of steel taken from Ground Zero.
It also bore a shield with two bars to symbolise the towers and a banner with the slogan Never Forget.
Hurricane Katrina
The wife of Deputy Defence Secretary Gordon England broke the champagne with the traditional salute of "May God bless this ship and all who sail on her".
Mr England said the name of the ship would be a source of strength and inspiration to the crew.
In the US Navy, state names are normally reserved for submarines, but former New York Governor George Pataki had asked for the ship to carry the name.
During construction the ship also had to survive the onslaught of Hurricane Katrina in 2005.
The USS New York will be commissioned into service next year.
Lee Ielpi, president of the September 11th Families' Association, told Associated Press: "We're sending a message that we're standing strong. This ship, as it cuts through the water, is going to send a ripple. That ripple will say, 'We cherish our freedom'."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7273407.stm
Evidence? What evidence?
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ttaarraass said:"I don't believe all they tell me" - a good fortean attitude!
Though I don't see why she is facing a "backlash" from that article.
No, the article doesn't actually reference one word of criticism. Maybe the BBC's back in the business of prediciting the news rather than reporting it - has Jane Standley been moved to their internet service?
I'm not sure that it's a particularly Fortean attitude to say that you believe something because you saw a documentary on it (as she does with the moon landings). The claim regarding the (non)collapse of other buildings - was she told that or did she find out for herself/check to see whether it's true or not.
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rynner said:US christens '9/11 steel' warship
Thousands of people have watched the naming in Louisiana of a US warship built partly from steel salvaged from the World Trade Center.
The twin towers in New York were destroyed in the hijacked planes attack of 11 September 2001.
Friends and families of 9/11 victims were among those at the ceremony for the new amphibious assault ship, the USS New York, in the base of Avondale.
The bow contains 7.5 tonnes of steel taken from Ground Zero.
It also bore a shield with two bars to symbolise the towers and a banner with the slogan Never Forget.
Hurricane Katrina
The wife of Deputy Defence Secretary Gordon England broke the champagne with the traditional salute of "May God bless this ship and all who sail on her".
Mr England said the name of the ship would be a source of strength and inspiration to the crew.
In the US Navy, state names are normally reserved for submarines, but former New York Governor George Pataki had asked for the ship to carry the name.
During construction the ship also had to survive the onslaught of Hurricane Katrina in 2005.
The USS New York will be commissioned into service next year.
Lee Ielpi, president of the September 11th Families' Association, told Associated Press: "We're sending a message that we're standing strong. This ship, as it cuts through the water, is going to send a ripple. That ripple will say, 'We cherish our freedom'."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7273407.stm
Evidence? What evidence?
The fortean part of that story ought to be if the ship will be haunted due to the use of materials from the WTC.
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http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2008-03-04
They always say the "remarks were taken out of context" don't they? Makes you wonder what the context was.
They always say the "remarks were taken out of context" don't they? Makes you wonder what the context was.
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H_James said:
Quote taken from planet x thread (bottom of page 3).
Your wish is granted - get your tin foil hat on and shout '23 Skidoo!'
Your wish may have come true.
I watched 'enemy of the state' last night (that film with Will Smith, Gene Hackman, Jon Voight and Jack Black in it).
Gene Hackman was saying "If you're talking to your wife and you mention the words bomb, terrorist, Allah"
The date of birth of the character Jon Voight was playing (the head bad guy) was stated as being 9/11/1940.
23 + 17, as you will have read in the 'Illuminatus! Trilogy' is 40.
Oh, and just to make this a bit more coincidental, the film was released in 1998, which was before 9/11 and the year after Nu Labour got into power.
Right, now I'm going to go to a beach and dunk my head in the water and squeak a bit - maybe Howard the porpoise will say hi...
Things are changing, there is a growing number of dissidents voices. In addition to DrPLee's info relating to an attempt to impeach W., some personnalities recently dared to defy the official version on TV or political arenas:
Jesse Ventura, former governor of Minnesota, vividly put into question the official version while interviewed by Howard Stern:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/ap ... entura.htm
A debate at the Japanese Parliament:
http://www.911blogger.com/node/13340
State Senator Karen Johnson questions off. version:
http://infowars.net/articles/april2008/ ... enator.htm
Another contestation of off. version in Howard Stern's broadcast:
http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=240
Giuletto Chiesa, Member of the Europarliament Commisson of inquiry on the CIA secret prisons, set a debate with a number of members of European Parliament on 26 Feb. 2008. Including a showing of the film Zero. A number of dissidents attended the debate.
There were a number of open minded discussions on Swiss and Italian TV too.
Jesse Ventura, former governor of Minnesota, vividly put into question the official version while interviewed by Howard Stern:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/ap ... entura.htm
A debate at the Japanese Parliament:
http://www.911blogger.com/node/13340
State Senator Karen Johnson questions off. version:
http://infowars.net/articles/april2008/ ... enator.htm
Another contestation of off. version in Howard Stern's broadcast:
http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=240
Giuletto Chiesa, Member of the Europarliament Commisson of inquiry on the CIA secret prisons, set a debate with a number of members of European Parliament on 26 Feb. 2008. Including a showing of the film Zero. A number of dissidents attended the debate.
There were a number of open minded discussions on Swiss and Italian TV too.
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Analis said:
In what way would it not have been possible? All it seems to indicate is that a marginal and generally disregarded community has got organised and convince an MP who was probably already pre-disposed towards their view to present it.