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Sounds & Frequencies To Banish Ghosts

Tempest63

Tempest63

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I have been lying in bed with the mother of all colds, (very) sore throat, streaming nose, blocked head…I’m sure you have all been there.
Between sleeping and fidgeting I’ve been web surfing and listening to podcasts, and the topic of the day was the cage in St Osyth, Essex, and associated paranormal activity in the property.
It was then that I wondered if there was any reference to music or sounds of certain frequencies that banish ghosts?
It has been suggested elsewhere that ghosts and spirits operate on a different frequency to us, if that is so could a certain sound frequency banish them.
Surprisingly there was very little on Google. One guy mentions Gregorian chants but I suspect he is a nutter.
If I win a big sum in the lotto tonight I am going to buy the cage in St Osyth, get some clever people to confirm the paranormal presence, then start working on frequencies to exorcise the ghosts.

Hopefully there will be a frequency inaudible to humans which I can programme into a meter, take out a patent, then sell it to lots of gullible people who believe in ghosts, whether they exist or not.
 
I just watched a Time Team about St Osyth, sadly there were no mentions of cages.

Anyway, had a poke and found this
https://science.howstuffworks.com/s...erceptions/infrasound-paranormal-activity.htm

And -just a theory - if it's theorized that infrasound can make people think a place is haunted, then maybe that's the frequency ghosts operate at or the frequency at which we can detect them?

If so, not sure what would cancel out an infrasound frequency. High frequencies?
 
Aydee_Aitchdee said:
And -just a theory - if it's theorized that infrasound can make people think a place is haunted
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There does seem to be experimental evidence to support this. Underground watercourses, old air conditioning systems and certain seismic activity can appear to trigger unease within some people in a proprioceptive way.

Our core paleopsychology personifies this ("the unseen almost-unheard threat") and et voila we may have a sort of a ghost. Animals can sense sounds that are far below the threshold of even highly-sensitive humans. Duration is a key factor: the audiological equivalent of staring at a faint picture, and being able to discern an image.

But this is far from being a universal explanation for every putative manifestation .

Aydee_Aitchdee said:
If so, not sure what would cancel out an infrasound frequency. High frequencies?
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Frideswide said:
so... what wave, added to the sound that makes you feel threatened
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Infrasound would be best cancelled-out by anti-phase infrasound of the same frequency, or a lower sub-harmonic. Higher frequency sound would simply be a distractive mask, the perception of the much-lower sound (or vibration) could still remain.
 
An interesting concept and something about the idea of frequencies and sound vibration has a ring (sorry) about them that sounds like (sorry again) that there may be something to it.

How could it be tested though or verified as working? Ghosts don't appear or manifest on demand.
 
kesavaross said:
How could it be tested though or verified as working?
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A flashlight with the battery cap loosened works for TV ghost hunters :chuckle:

@Ermintruder thank you for that explanation! I don't know a lot about sound, just what I've read/heard, and perhaps it's not the sound, but the phase that triggers 'haunted' feelings. I know less about phase than I do sound, but this article brings up the point of a subject's suggestibility being a bigger factor than just the sound/phase

https://gizmodo.com/some-ghosts-may-be-sound-waves-just-below-human-heari-1737065693
 
I reckon you could add ghosts to the list & flog them on Amazon.

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hunck said:
I reckon you could add ghosts to the list & flog them on Amazon.

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Well, these devices don't actual work on real pests. So a device that works on pests we have yet to define is really a stretch. It's the same as trying to keep witches away - if you believe it, it probably works.

Lots of environmental things make people uneasy. Studies show that some people are affected by ultrasound but not everyone. It does follow that some people might be more likely to perceive ghosts or haunted areas and other people won't notice anything. But, twisting this around doesn't work - to say that ghosts "operate" at a frequency is really making too many leaps of logic. We can't define what a ghost is, and don't know its properties, so can't test anything or even have a reasonable guess at how to keep them away. You can't do science on ghosts. You can only do science regarding investigating a person's experience that some call "ghosts".
 
What most people don't realise is that for the infrasound/ghost connection to work, it has to be a standing wave. That's my understanding anyway. Just pumping 19Hz etc into a room isn't going to do much.

How do you get rid of this frequency? Simple, you just introduce the same sound into the environment in exact anti phase to the first. Theoretically anyway.
 
What you really want is a looped recording of Yvette Fielding shrieking like a cat in the throes of immolation.

It clearly works, because there have been over 300 episodes of Most Haunted and not one single bastard ghost has ever dared show itself.
 
DrPaulLee said:
What most people don't realise is that for the infrasound/ghost connection to work, it has to be a standing wave.
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It'd also have to be powerful enough to make eyeballs wobble slightly.
 
Didn't they use certain frequencies to remove anti-social teenagers from locations where they were causing trouble?
 
DrPaulLee said:
What most people don't realise is that for the infrasound/ghost connection to work, it has to be a standing wave. That's my understanding anyway. Just pumping 19Hz etc into a room isn't going to do much.

How do you get rid of this frequency? Simple, you just introduce the same sound into the environment in exact anti phase to the first. Theoretically anyway.
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A standing sound wave in an enclosed space would depend on the frequency/wavelength of sound matching & resonating with the room size - there would have to be a correlation, & the room would have to be constructed of hard/reflective surfaces otherwise the sound would be absorbed. Without a repeating or constant source the sound would simply die away & you’d get a reverb/echo effect.

In this case, an extractor fan was found to be the cause. When it was switched off, the effect disappeared.

The fear frequency.

A 20hz wave has a length of of about 60 feet. To produce a standing wave the room size would have to have a relation to that length.

I’m not sure where it gets us with ghosts though.
 
hunck said:
A standing sound wave in an enclosed space would depend on the frequency/wavelength of sound matching & resonating with the room size - there would have to be a correlation, & the room would have to be constructed of hard/reflective surfaces otherwise the sound would be absorbed. Without a repeating or constant source the sound would simply die away & you’d get a reverb/echo effect.

In this case, an extractor fan was found to be the cause. When it was switched off, the effect disappeared.

The fear frequency.

A 20hz wave has a length of of about 60 feet. To produce a standing wave the room size would have to have a relation to that length.

I’m not sure where it gets us with ghosts though.
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No place because it's a completely different concept - infrasound interpreted as "ghosts" has no relation to ghosts "using" infrasound.
 
It recalls the Mosquito, an expensive bit of kit you could fix to the side of your house or shop. It let out a high-pitched note at high volume; inaudible to wrinklies, it felt like a pain to da feral yoof, who dispersed.

I don't know if it came with any guarantee. I have toyed with the idea of a dog whistle to rid the back of my house of next door's kids.

Can't find a dog whistle anywhere!

Anyhow, the Mosquito seems to have yielded to the notion that playing classical music at any level at all will mark a place as not yoof-friendly! :yay:

I'll give that a go! 34 CDs of Scarlatti Sonatas on the harpsichord should do it.

But what if that attracts ghosts? :thought:
 
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JamesWhitehead said:
It recalls the Mosquito, an expensive bit of kit you could fix to the side of your house or shop. It let out a high-pitched note at high volume; inaudible to wrinklies, it felt like a pain to da feral yoof, who dispersed.

I don't know if it came with any guarantee. I have toyed with the idea of a dog whistle to rid the back of my house of next door's kids.

Can't find a dog whistle anywhere!

Anyhow, the Mosquito seems to have yielded to the notion that playing classical music at any level at all will mark a place as not yoof-friendly! :yay:

I'll give that a go! 34 CDs of Scarlatti Sonatas on the harpsichord should do it.

But what if that attracts ghosts? :thought:
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Except the feral yoof - the little buggers - adopted it as ringtones for their phones so they could get alerts and text in class without the teacher hearing.
 
JamesWhitehead said:
Can't find a dog whistle anywhere!
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Try your local animal feed specialist. They often have dog training aids for working gundogs, and they sell dog whistles.
Analogue Boy said:
Except the feral yoof - the little buggers - adopted it as ringtones for their phones so they could get alerts and text in class without the teacher hearing.
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Most of the teachers I know are DEFINITELY young enough to still hear dog whistle pitch.... Mind you, the policemen are also about 12.
 
Spookdaddy said:
What you really want is a looped recording of Yvette Fielding shrieking like a cat in the throes of immolation.

It clearly works, because there have been over 300 episodes of Most Haunted and not one single bastard ghost has ever dared show itself.
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You make a good point! Wouldn't be too hard to produce and sell on Amazon, just need a DVD of Most Haunted, a tape recorder and a small plastic box with a cute label. Bam! Profit...
 
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